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Accolon posted...

It's forcing her to redirect funds to legal defense from her very popular "actually help people" campaign

Being arrested for directly standing up to Trump's fascist goons will easily offset that in terms of electoral gains. She directly put herself on the line, primary voters will appreciate that

In terms of death, destruction, and destabilization of an entire region this would be on par with the Iraq War at minimum

Garioshi posted...

Personally, I don't think a high poverty rate is a good reason to invade a country.

The standards that the US uses to invade and sabotage countries throughout the world all easily apply to the US itself.

There is significant poverty in the US. People do in fact starve here. There are major human rights abuses on a daily basis.

It's all cynical and self-serving and there's no reason to play along with it

chaos_knight posted...

Yeah we're about to say fuck it and invade.

Right now the Trump admin is actively attempting to provoke an overreaction from Venzeula. They're hunting for a pretext for invasion.

For KJP in particular, there's no lane for "person who hates the Democrats because they were too mean to Joe Biden". This isn't a type of person that exists in any significant quantities. So it's a weird move from her.

pinky0926 posted...

Someone no longer wanting to align themselves with establishment dems being written off as a nazi apologist is a troubling sentiment, imo

Her stated reasons for leaving the party are very stupid

I really truly don't know why anyone agrees to interviews with Isaac Chotnier, he just makes them look silly

(To be clear this is praise, not criticism)

An American Civil War fractures the country along urban/rural lines, not cleanly state by state.

It would be a complete clusterfuck

Of course, this assumes that you would have a lot of people actually fighting. Truth is that the vast majority of people would not actually take up arms, we are far too individualized as a society for that to happen

Turns out there's only so many videos of the IDF murdering children in cold blood you can watch before you start wondering if maybe it's a pattern and not just "isolated incidents"

https://x.com/hotgirlhala/status/1785338806096302311?lang=en

Evergreen

tremain07 posted...

All living american presidents should be in jail for the atrocities they've committed across the world.

This is an old argument which is that every post WW2 president is a war criminal under international law.

Which is true btw. Still, the aiding and abetting of Israel's genocide is among the worst crimes in modern US history.

Yes and send Trump as well. As well as all top officials in their admins remotely involved

Didn't even last a week this time. Fucking monsters.

BearlyWilling posted...

Vance is actually trying to downplay this jokes made by kids.

Aren't these "kids" in their mid 20s? These are private chats; no trolling here, these dudes are just Nazis

Hopefully she sues Twitch for this (first banning her security guard, who clearly was needed here, and then for not immediately kicking the assaulter out of the venue)

HashtagSEP posted...

This topic was definitely made in good faith.

It's a pretty straightforward question. Everyone's always asking if Israel has a right to defend itself, but why not Palestinians? Why aren't they allowed to defend themselves?

I wanted to ask if Palestinians were permitted to defend themselves and their communities, especially in Gaza.

I guarantee you they've been doing sabotage operations in Venezuela for decades. Trump is just a moron who admits it out loud (he's also gearing up for a full-on invasion of the country)

Sir_Will posted...

How does that help them? Most of the world still enables Israel no matter what else they say. And more importantly, the US does. None of that stops bombs. Who has risen up exactly who can actually do anything? The hostages kept Israel from glassing the place.

Dude. Israel was already glassing the place. They damaged or destroyed about 70% of the buildings in the entire strip. The UN estimated that it would take over a decade just to clear the rubble. And that estimate was made in the middle of last year.

https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1812815626723086584

Starks posted...

It's all to use Trump. It's not genuine.

He deserves a non-zero amount of credit. But there were chances to do this ceasefire and release process or at least parts of it last year or in March.

But again, his condition makes rewarding him toxic. It validates his worst impulses and bubbled world view.

Trump deserves zero credit whatsoever because he could have forced Netenyahu at literally any time to abide by a ceasefire by threatening to place an arms embargo on Israel

There are a lot of horrible things Israel has done the last two years but the fake aid organization used to lure desperate Palestinians to be massacred en masse by the IDF might just be the worst.

In the interim before Israel decides to unilaterally violate the ceasefire, we might see another US/Israel escalation against Iran.

Israel's stated goal of "destroying Hamas" is convenient for them because they can claim that any militant resistance whatsoever from Palestinians = Hamas. And so long as Palestinians in Gaza are subject to occupation and violence, there will always be people who militantly resist that occupation and violence.

Very unlikely to last but even temporary relief for the Palestinians in Gaza counts for something

Israel is probably going to rearm and then resume the genocide just like earlier this year

Italians finally do something good and no one cares smh

AndyReklaw posted...

Is this allowed? We're just striking another country that we're not at war with. Has the UN said anything?

International law is what the US says it is

There were thousands of people protesting Netanyahu's presence in NYC like a week ago

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/italians-take-streets-gaza-flotilla-general-strike-2025-10-03/

ROME, Oct 3 (Reuters) - Hundreds of thousands of Italians took to the streets across the country on Friday, as part of a day-long general strike called by unions in support of an aid flotilla carrying food to Gaza that was intercepted by Israel this week.
"After what I saw with the flotilla, I thought I couldn't just stand by and do nothing. It's the first time I go to these kind of demonstrations," Mario Mascetti, a protester in Rome, told Reuters.
The CGIL and USB trade unions staged demonstrations in more than 100 cities. In the capital, crowds marched from the central Piazza Vittorio towards the main train station, holding union and Palestinian flags, as well as banners.
The strike caused delays and cancellations across Italy's rail network, with more limited disruptions at airports. Metro lines continued operating in both Rome and Milan.
Motorways or ring roads were blocked by protesters around several cities including Rome, Milan, Bologna and Trento, with police firing tear gas outside Milan to disperse stone-throwing demonstrators.

Hospy posted...

They escorted them to the maritime border but they didn't cross it themselves.

Edit: spelling

You're giving them a bit too much credit. Italy and Spain "escorted" them most of the way but then stood aside to allow Israel to intercept the flotilla.

Anyway, even taking this totally at face value, the plan calls for the dissolution of (what's left of Hamas) and total demilitarization of any Palestinian resistance. This effectively places Gaza at Israel's mercy.

The "technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee" as overseen by Tony fucking Blair will of course only exist at Israel's discretion and is thus ensured to consist of collaborators and sell-outs who will not act in Palestinians' best interests. In fact they will serve as an extension of Israel's plans for the Strip. And the transition and handoff to the Palestinian Authority will only be completed (if ever) once the PA sufficiently demonstrates their fealty to Israel.

This entire plan enshrines perpetual de facto occupation under the guise of a "humanitarian" solution. In time, Israeli settlers will begin anew the settlement process as they continue to do in the West Bank. The only possible positive is Point 12 (no Palestinians forced to leave) which is assured to be broken anyway.

You don't need to bother reading any of that, Israel will reject it in favor of continuing the genocide on their own terms and Trump will happily continue supporting it

TheDurinator posted...

Tales games are comfort food. You know exactly what you're going to get every single time.

As a cultured individual, I play Tales games for the skits

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e3757e2.jpg

Palestinians would never accept this, nor should they

One of the more ludicrous myths at the time was that Clinton was a stronger general election candidate against Trump than Bernard.

This was conventional wisdom despite virtually all polling showing the opposite

Kanaya413 posted...

Go heckle trump too

Some did, two weeks ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/trump-protesters-restaurant-washington-dc

Donald Trump faced protesters shouting Free DC! Free Palestine! Trump is the Hitler of our time! as he dined at a Washington restaurant, videos posted online showed.
The US president approached the shouting protesters in the restaurant, pausing a few feet away from them for a few moments, nodding and smiling without offering a response.

As for that incident two weeks ago vs this incident now.... two different groups of protesters. Believe it or not they're not all one big group.

As shitty as the outlook in the US is, I always scoff at people who say things like "I'm done with the US, I'm moving to Europe"

Most of Europe is gearing up for a hard right turn as well, probably even moreso than the US.

"Israel is committing genocide, but we need to supply them with defensive weapons so they can protect themselves as they continue their genocide"

This is not a remotely coherent position and if you believe this you should be laughed out of whatever room you're in.

Too_Many_Limes posted...

If people think the Dems are being catty now, wait till we reach primary season in a couple of years.

Harris, presuming she runs, will have the ignoble taskand the first I can recall in living memoryof being a failed candidate looking for another kick at the can. And the rest of the field will absolutely *eviscerate* her for every flaw.

There is one very recent example of a losing candidate running again - Trump

Besides Trump, in recent decades losing candidates tend not to throw their hats in the ring again, but in earlier parts of American history it was pretty common. Nixon lost once before winning; Adlai Stevenson lost to Eisenhower twice; William Jennings Bryan quite famously lost three times.

HashtagSEP posted...

Ahh, yes, keep attacking Democrats. That makes sense.

Shapiro is clearly angling for a 2028 bid and he's going after one of his rivals early

This is clearly self-serving for him but it at least makes sense

There's also some sour grapes from not getting her VP nod, plus she also said some choice words about him in her book

So is the UK going to stop giving military assistance to Israel?

If not this is a meaningless gesture. They're actively helping Israel destroy any possibility of a Palestinian state; in fact Netenyahu and his government have made quite clear of their intent on this. And the outcome speaks for itself, with much of Gaza reduced to rubble in addition to the mass death and starvation of Palestinians.

Really fucking grotesque

Are people really that naive to think "uh maybe this will be non-biased and educational"

This is atrocity propaganda. It's created to justify Israel's genocide of Gaza

name_unknown posted...

Biden is saying his debate wasn't that bad

It was, objectively, the worst presidential debate performance in US history. No other debate has ever directly resulted in one of the two main party candidates exiting the race prior to election day.

deanshow posted...

The media is making this man into a saint when in reality he was just a doofus who lucked into finding an audience with young men. All of his talking points are now being used when black crime is shown. His legacy is one of hate and I dont blame anyone if they dont feel bad hes dead.

It wasn't so much luck as it was funding from right wing billionaires (the same as all of these guys; Ben Shapiro, etc). All of these guys' audiences are astroturfed because they have endless money to light on fire for these pet ideological projects.

It's not easy to convey my thoughts on this in a way that won't get me modded lol

I'll say that random, disorganized acts of violence like this accomplish nothing and tend to actively make everything worse.

At the same time, do I have an ounce of sympathy to offer Charlie Kirk? Absolutely not.

Why do we need heads of state/government worldwide commenting on this. Why does it matter

LightHawKnight posted...

Ah so the neck shot video might be fake huh.

I'm purely speculating don't quote me on it lol

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Oh, I hadn't heard

It's possible another topic was made and I just have the user on ignore, if that's the case go ahead and let this one die.

There is video of the shooting as well as an image that may or may not be authentic. I'm linking neither for obvious reasons.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/charlie-kirk-shot-utah

He is currently hospitalized which i believe is all that is known at this time

Charged151 posted...

If he needed more time to make it orderly, then he should have asked for it (and it isn't like anyone had the power to refuse such a request). The buck stops here as they say...

The Biden admin did. The initial withdrawal date of remaining US forces negotiated by the Trump admin was May 1 2021. Biden pushed this back until August 31 2021 to give themselves more time. Problem is that they didn't bother negotiating the extension with the Taliban. So the Taliban started their final offensive May of that year. 3.5 months later they had captured all provincial capitals including Kabul, before the US withdrawal was complete.