Lurker > Fiyun

You still got the staff/rod with cura attached to it she can dualcast.

Edit:

The best option as of now.

https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Recovery_Rod
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Lopen posted...

Huh on looking at her skills + enhancements Marie actually seems to do what I wanted Luka to be able to-- high potency long regen (10000hp+15x over 5) is pretty cool-- with other useful skills on top of it.

If only she had an actual healing spell of any sort. Can't you buy Curaja from a chocobo or something.

Don Chocobo got one, for a fair price... 200q, Duggle Village.

BUT, Marie needs equipment for that since she IS a green mage.
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... Blargh.

Wouldn't put it past them. ~_~

Prediction!


FFXV Kingsglaive might be the next King Mog, for better or for worse. (Crowe(30% hp/spr, Glauca.(125 ATK Dark Element Greatsword))
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Grom, voltch's darling, is a few banners away for that electric large sword, so you can attach that to either of the fembots. :D
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Tim's LB fully maxed. Charlotte awakened for fattening.

Don't forget at least one Hayate if you want the -50% encounter, folks.
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Natwaf_akidna posted...

Game's up if anyone didn't realize

Also I had no idea the Malboro Trial had an EXP bug! Not that the Trial is as easy as the Dark Espers and can be used to level up people but...

It was on adv by exploiting the revival of the boss.
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You still got the Mechanical Heart, right?
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crazygamer999 posted...

So...
I can live without 9s's Tm, right?

It will be more difficult at times when that on-demand physical mitigation isn't there when you need it, but not impossible.

10-man trials however you need to do some more work with.
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Reminder to not ignore getting the magical gun from the story event in case of accidental pulling of Light Veritas at some point. (Plus Hope's TMR.)
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The Mana Sword posted...

how is that possible

If a guy can chase their first Chizuru since last year... >_> (And personally I didn't get Xiao until a week before CNY.)
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Depends on how the test of your list look like.

(Still pondering how many will use WiV's 10 turn jump..)
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Tilith+Tidus+Noctis.

Tilith's mp regen goes up when both are used. (89)

Tilith's hp and mp-regen after Noctis' buff runs out while Bliztmania is active= mp regen stays the same. (89)
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You don't have to decide until her enhancements arrives.

For now she works good for those without WoL/VoE.

Afterwards it's your pick what you need since we now have all notable tanks available besides Mistair and Basch.

Edit:

AoE ~40 MP Heal w/ 0.2x Mod split over 3 Turns turns into AoE ~70MP Heal w/ 0.2x Mod split over 5 Turns.
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The Mana Sword posted...

Is 6* Charlotte any good? I don't remember hearing much about her in JP.

On par with current WoL, but can with 50% chance ignore a fatal attack at 70%(30% later) , plus AoE mana battery 70+mod split over 5 turns. (crazy may want to use a Rassler TMR or two to bulk her up.)
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They did happen a banner, OK's, apart in JP so. ^_^'
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Unless you got a certain unit the banner is a skip by default as is. (However do get the weapon from the story event for LV since she likes it along with Hope's..)
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Waifu time, crazy. Saber and mask tmr are *6 now, along with Veritas part 2. (After maintenance.)



https://lapis-prod-staticnews-gumi-sg.akamaized.net/prod//en/content/20170822_Maintenance.html
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Blame Eve and A2 for hogging space. (Plus the rates are fairly similar across the board so yeah. >_<)

We should make roll call on Thursday regarding Nier-unit Tmrs we got.
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Even if it is not relevant at this point. Keep in mind there might a patch that wrecks the magnification/emulation chain trick in the future.

Some people are having a hard time chaining afterwards in JP currently. (Could just be a bug though.)
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crazygamer999 posted...

RaidenZeroX posted...

Doesn't the higher also give you 3 failures instead of just 1? I've able to get to the second area because of that!

Correct.

But the reward was lessened as you failed iirc.

Edit:

During the INT maze the first 2 wrong choices you make warps you to the beginning of the same floor, while the third incorrect door warps you to the exit.

Upon completing the maze on INT without a single mistake, a moogle appears on the final floor with the forked paths. Speaking to it prompts you to proceed to a special goal, which will send you to an exit room where the final fight may consist of minitaur(3), a metal gigantaur, and a burst pot.
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Higher gives better rewards.
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Hmm from the looks of it:

JP Ling: Enhanced Soleil with remove debuffs instead of adding them.

TmR:
85 ATK Fire Element Dagger, 30% Poison/Paralyze

LB: 500% AoE 5 Hit Fire Magic Attack & AoE ~2000 HP Heal w/ 10x Mod & AoE Revive with 50% HP -> 620% AoE 5 Hit Fire Magic Attack & AoE ~2000 HP Heal w/ 11.2x Mod & AoE Revive with 50% HP

JP Xon:

Tmr:

30 ATK 30 MAG Accessory, 20 Dark Resist

LB:

600% ST 1 Hit Physical Attack & 70% Chance 3 Turn Stop & Evade Attacks (Max: 2) for 3 Turns -> 840% ST 1 Hit Physical Attack & 94% Chance 3 Turn Stop & Evade Attacks (Max: 2) for 3 Turns


40% Chance 3 Turn Stop & Self one turn 50% Chance to Counter Phys buff

Dw.

AoE 2 crystal refill except himself.

Take ATK/DEF/MAG/SPR Debuff from ally and apply to self
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Yay! (Despite pyrrhic victory and all that being on pro..)

http://imgur.com/a/Z1zS5
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Enchanted Maze is open.
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You have the staples in your box, but not all tools as you will see when Bloody Moon arrives. (Malboro as is should have been somewhere around ice crane/reindeer so we had access to more reliable tools for the task.)


Here comes the other side of the game; Party composition matters a lot so you can make due with some stuff, but you are not guaranteed to win if your current tool box is a bit lacking in some fashion. (This we will also see once 10-man challenges arrive where you can't use copies.)

So some units you can replace with someone sharing a similar role.(WoL/VoE/Charlotte *6, Refia/Y'shtola/Aria/Fina/Dagger, etc)

Mistair however is unfortunately unique outside of Basch when it comes to dealing with aoe magic.

Generally you should be able to handle content, sans Gumi gumies, but if it is magic heavy you might need to look over your SPR-capacity.


For most enhanced Ramza/Tilith/Roselia *6 /along with enhanced Soleil would stabilize your encounter with Aigaion instead of turning into a death fest if anything goes too wrong. (Ayaka would turn it into Curada+reraise the goat.)

Add to that mana battery and dps that fits what you have at hand without turning it into several hours of work.

Edit: Which reminds me; Wind Veritas carries something your Eileen wants so you don't forget it when he arrives in the following weeks. >_>
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Horith posted...

Fiyun posted...

The ones I mentioned are not the next cool things. (Mistair/Crowe) They are necessary for future stuff.

And quite honestly, I have the tools in my box at the moment to let me ask a friend to loan me one if absolutely necessary. I mean sure, I'll pull for them, but as I learned in P&D, chasing the 'necessary' unit for clearing content usually winds up with power-creep making up for it in a few months anyway. Sure, I can see that being a bit more difficult here with how specialized units can be, but at the same time this game as already been out a year, and power-creep has made a lot of the early trials soloable with the right units. Will that apply to every trial? Hell no, something like Malboro or Aigaion will probably always be difficult, but the difficulty will likely be tamed by a fair amount as better and better units get released.

So while I'll pull for the next needed units, if they're so in demand, I fully expect to be able to ask politely for someone to put one up for me, because I know someone, somewhere out there, will have pulled them.

Edit: And Krile for the daily. Bleah.

That's one of the strengths with the game, providing you can compensate with what you lose out on relying on a Mistair-buddy. (Bard, mana battery, buff, chaining partner. Strong mage like with Bloody Moon trial where you can't use physical attacks, nor black magic.)

It's a mix since you will see more and more that focused roles will be more important so you don't want to divide tasks too much. (Plus if you look, the big units we are using now are still not obsolete in a year unlike our Barrage-meta despite they added more strong units.)


Difficult battles can get more rounded as we get more key units. But that doesn't mean it will make them easier as much as manageable without relying on rng not screwing you or turtling. (Iron Giant being an oddity even up to Ramuh *3)


Keep in mind I am not asking to build a war chest for say Basch *5. (3 Turn 75% Chance to Defend Allies from Magic/Physical Damage (Reduce +50% Phys./+70% Mag. Damage, inter- changeable on two abilities)

Just don't burn a ton of resources on something really shiny you will trade away a month later, or pull at some point and complain later you didn't get these when they provide the tools to deal with that pesky SPR/HP-issue most units will suffer from.


This of course is based on Gumi not pushing us through a ton of magic heavy content before releasing Crowe(Fairly soon before Ayaka) and Mistair.(A few months)


Soloing as an art is dead starting with Aigaion until JP starts to get game mechanics breaking units that defy BFR and Left Arm while punching them in the face at the same time.
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Horith posted...

I know I'm not likely to pull for a good long while. I know everyone wants to chase the next cool thing, but I'm not much interested in the BE units outside of one or two, and I know what I have right now will carry me through for a good long while. The only FF characters that might tempt me are the remaining FFX characters, anything from FFVIII, and the Bravely Default banner.

And they damn well better bring over that BD banner. I don't care how awful the units are, I'mma pump everything into that.

The ones I mentioned are not the next cool things. (Mistair/Crowe) They are necessary for future stuff.

They are not highly sought after in JP for s***s and giggles.


BD is supposed to come earlier.
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Story event banner.

A 5/4/4/3/3.

However you only need one of her like WoL.

Unless Gumi makes an original Mistair got no alternatives until Basch *5...
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Have enough spr and hp. Plus the provoker should have Genji Shield or Safety Bit.

You can still be a victim to charm despite enhanced Marie if the wrong one is selected.


Seems like running 2 Victoria on repeat with Overflow works for chains so far.
Only ones not dieing are spr-heavy units and the ones with Diabolos.
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Unless they are crappy units you might as well take advantage of it if you can.

Been doing that with my 3 Victoria, DKC, Tim and 9S so far.(As I get more burst pots for those 2.)
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Fiyun posted...

Horith posted...

So I know tons of people were excited for Timothy when he came out, but I'm kind of struggling to figure out why I'd use him for anything other than his TMR. His breaks are pretty potent and cheap, but they only target a single stat. Meanwhile I've got WoL and 9S that, while more expensive, provide similar breaks that hit two stats at once, which seems a lot more useful to me. Plus 9S has much better survivability, damage mitigation, and his LB provides only slightly weaker breaks than Timothy's. I actually feel kind of silly for upping a 9S to 5* before raising his LB; I may just keep that one up for missions, and raise up another one after I give him plenty of LB pots.

Seriously, is there any reason to use Timothy when we now have 9S? I get that Tim was a 3* base, 5* max, so he's not really going to be as good as a 4*, but everyone seemed to adore him as a breaker when he came out, and I just don't see him doing a great job when his breaks are single-stat and his survivability is crap.

I dare you to use 9S' Purge Attack on Dark Ifrit. :D

Or any boss like him.


Go watch O'Zack videos with Tim to get an idea.

Forgot to add.

Tim got 100% LB fill rate, so you will see his more often. (I tend to forget that since they are similar with 9S being on the bulkier side.)
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RaidenZeroX posted...

Fiyun posted...

voltch posted...

Isn't Fry still good enough to be the best dps compared to future jp units?

Seems to me like ayaka is the only unit that would be more desirable.

The rumble between CG Sakura, enhanced Light Veritas and Fry...

After Ayaka, all of my tickets are being saved for CG Sakura (still expecting Gumi to add global exclusives and make those single 5* banners dual 5*s).

I'm wondering if there's some kind of setup with the Marlboro killers banner that lets them take down Marlboro easier than what we're doing now, but I can't see it.

Not with that banner.

All it does is give Ribbons, WoL for the physical attacks, Soleil for buffs and a nudge towards aoe-kill-them-silly.

Will make an attempt on Monday with my Victoria twins on pro as a test, so please don't bring down Marie. D:


I still stand by it becomes more manageable once we get Crowe and Mistair. (You still need AoE anyway.)


Edit: Worst case scenario currently is to hype Light Veritas since she is AoE light hybrid. Or an original AoE unit.
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Horith posted...

So I know tons of people were excited for Timothy when he came out, but I'm kind of struggling to figure out why I'd use him for anything other than his TMR. His breaks are pretty potent and cheap, but they only target a single stat. Meanwhile I've got WoL and 9S that, while more expensive, provide similar breaks that hit two stats at once, which seems a lot more useful to me. Plus 9S has much better survivability, damage mitigation, and his LB provides only slightly weaker breaks than Timothy's. I actually feel kind of silly for upping a 9S to 5* before raising his LB; I may just keep that one up for missions, and raise up another one after I give him plenty of LB pots.

Seriously, is there any reason to use Timothy when we now have 9S? I get that Tim was a 3* base, 5* max, so he's not really going to be as good as a 4*, but everyone seemed to adore him as a breaker when he came out, and I just don't see him doing a great job when his breaks are single-stat and his survivability is crap.

I dare you to use 9S' Purge Attack on Dark Ifrit. :D

Or any boss like him.


Go watch O'Zack videos with Tim to get an idea.
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voltch posted...

Isn't Fry still good enough to be the best dps compared to future jp units?

Seems to me like ayaka is the only unit that would be more desirable.

The rumble between CG Sakura, enhanced Light Veritas and Fry...
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https://v23.notice.exvius.com/lapis/content/201708/20170819_ffbeglobalnewunit_5sgla4ag.html
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Use this list to see what TMRs you can prioritize for now and what becomes obselete. (In terms of equipment)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FkNt_aq-_kNfIF2wGeV76qCu1bnElqHOY14tZiduWO0/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#
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Wanglicious posted...

BakusaiTenketsu posted...

Ilias? I have Marie... and she's Enhanced.
Soleil? Is she REALLY worth taking a slot from a DPS or Enhanced Elza?

i don't know how Marie compares to Ilias (haven't seen her enhancements much yet) but it's worth noticing that he's likely going to stay bugged forever. he still is in Japan. meaning he's able to chuck out AoE Elixers or AoE Chocolates like a boss. if an item whore isn't what you want, okay fine.

Marie craps all over Illias in terms of useful utility.

The only things he got over her is dodgy mana battery capacity and aoe break immunity.

Heck, HE should be the one sole unit getting an enhancements overhaul due to only his Special Recipe +1 was worth a damn. (AoE Cure Ailment & 1 Turn Ailment Immunity)
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Zargabaath offers utility, (Archadian Light for 60% buffed stats and immunity towards blind, paralyze, confuse, and disease. Rejuvenate for 100% hp/ 50% mp. Word of Law for on demand 20% mitigation. And Hero Crest for someone to get 100% for 4 turns) so since his stat boosts are so split and he have a hard time hitting 1k you can build him as support.


Soleil on the other hand, once enhanced, is a bit more complicated.

- She is immune towards all major threats in terms of ailments. ( Sleep, paralyze, confuse and petrify.)

- Each main dance if used first gives 100% to the stat it focuses on, along with a 35% debuff in its opposite.(Atk=Def, Mag=Spr)

- You can freely mix and match dances, and gain the120% boost in the opposite stat for x dance used. (Atk=Mag, Def=Spr)

- If fully potted and tweaked slightly she will dance forever due to cheap dances.

- You need to match dances to make the most of it. So Schwert Dance/Cannon Dance+Panzer Dance/Shooting Dance gives 120% in all stats plus debuff in 2 stats.

- This can be good and bad depending on the boss, just like with Roy later on, since if they hate x debuff it can be a pain.

GANON1025 posted...

What else is there to save for, Nier is it.

Mistair for your magical aoe tank. (On a double yellow banner.)

Crowe for his 30% Hp/Spr TMR.

Both are *4s.

Edit: And a tip if you run 2 or more Victoria in the arena; Do a slight pause before tapping each to build up Overflow chains. Yummy....
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Don't give up hope when even Kleenex scores. (But don't go chasing rainbows because of that.)
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Sweet.
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Tell my daily WoL that. >_>
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As long as a banner is active you can get them when a new banner arrives, but at normal abysmal rates.
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Nuuuuh.

Got another WoL. =_=
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Unless you are running 2 2Bs you are not going to see quicker results.
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Natwaf_akidna posted...

He's utterly useless in Bloody Moon and Malboro Trials right?

That's Mistair's territory.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Wait does 9S' TM stack?

Like I said before, it allows the whole team to chain no matter who.
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The Mana Sword posted...

Thinking about the Aigaion trial, maybe with A2 being able to chain I can do the short method.

Rikku
Rem
WoL
A2
Tilith
A2

that may work

Do you have the spr to endure?
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BakusaiTenketsu posted...

Fiyun, why do those links say that Orlandeau's chaining abilities are Holy Explosion and Stasis Sword, and not Divine Ruination?

JP names.
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http://imgur.com/a/zxESa
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In.

Edit: Aiden heals 40mp when enhanced.

Longer duration on buffs too.
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