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1994 - 75%
2006 - 55%

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1998 - 85%
1992 - 75%
2003 - 64%
2005 - 60%

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1991 - 86%
2002 - 73%

2000 - 62%
1996 - 81.50%

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Haste_2 posted...

I was expecting 2012 to get beaten worse than 1999. 1999 would destroy 2012. We're only one update in, though.

1999 might be getting Final Fantasy SFFed *and* generational SFFed. Take these results with a grain of salt.

Team Rocket Elite posted...

https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3295-division-4-final-crono-l-block-pikachu-alucard

save_us.rat

I really loved the "Save_us.rat" tagline. Still makes me smile.

I was one of the original L-Block fanboys, but I turned against it once it was clear it might win the entire contest.

KamikazePotato posted...

https://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3486-division-5-round-2-pokemon-zelda-mm-mgs-pokemon-gs

This is one of the most nonsensical results we've ever had. Majora basically got that same result against GSC 1 v 1 a few years later in 2010 when RBY wasn't in the poll anymore. It's really hard to look at that and not imagine that MM boosted by the time 2010 rolled around, which makes me feel a bit better about getting snakebitten by that.

I also remember at the time that people were calling RBY's performance disappointing and an indication it wasn't THAT strong because it couldn't beat MGS, and more or less ignoring what else was in the poll. People were still in Pokeshock by then.

Weren't there people who predicted PokePower? I think Ulti was one of them. I certainly wasn't!

Oh wait, I can't resist lucky 7's for a FF7 pick!

1997 - 77.77%

1997 - 76.50%
2007 - 71%

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Ah crap, I fell asleep so my 2008 pick was horribly low.

Thanks TRE for hosting!

I think people might be going too far on the "Diversity!!" train due to one result.

Plus my first instinct when I saw this was SFF. Not sure about that at all, but it's possible. And SFF might work differently here than in a 1v1 match - I don't think LoZ SFFs SMB directly, but maybe it's different when they are years instead.

HaRRicH posted...

Team Rocket Elite posted...

Something I'm also wondering about is how much of 1985 vs 1987 is SFF? It's impossible to really say but when you have one Nintendo entry against an significantly stronger one, SFF might be on the table to make the win even bigger.

I've been simmering on a half-baked idea about whether or not our SFF will be seen more as chronologically-nearby SFF than what we're used to thinking about.

Like, spitballing here...games can and probably will SFF each other here, but I don't know if it will be as pronounced as having two years from the same generation facing each other if one's a clear favorite. I wouldn't expect 1985/2016 to has a disproportionate overlap, but 2001 against 2004? Relatively equal standing with some of its top games (MGS2/3, GTA3/SA, Halo 1/2), yet I wonder if 2001 could curbstomp 2004 in a way some more distant years couldn't. 2007 against 2009? There's an argument to be had there, and it ain't just because of Mario and CoD having the better reps. Sometimes you just know where some peaks in generations you care about are. Standard SFF can't be ignored here, but I'm trying to speak to something different and more specific.

Today's match could be an example of this same-generation SFF, but I don't really buy it yet. There's nothing else to justify this being a new kind of SFF yet and it's hard to imagine this contest giving us enough info to really build that case anyway.

I too was thinking of generational SFF.

I wouldn't call it a "new kind" of SFF exactly. We know the first games contest was riddled with generational SFF, especially with the older games. Older years might work similarly, with generational SFF being worse. Who knows.

I'm just not willing to conclude much of anything from one match.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Another premature reaction: this bodes really well for 2001, 2000, 1994, and obviously 1998.

This bodes poorly for both 1996 AND 1997 (I don't trust 97's Nintendo games). I'd lol so hard if 2000 got past both of those.

I'm more worried that 2000 will lose to 1990 than I am that it will beat 1996.

Thanks to Luster for adding the missing updates to the database!

Wow at the beating 1987 is laying down. I didn't expect that.

Changes

1995 - 87%
1987 - 55.55%

LusterSoldier posted...

This topic:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75302233

You posted in that topic already.

Oh, I thought you meant you had made a topic.

ExThaNemesis posted...

rotating pictures is an awful idea that absolutely must be canned before the wild card round is over.

Agreed.

LusterSoldier posted...

creativename posted...

Thanks. Is there a suggestions board where this could be posted? I'm afraid Allen won't see this topic.

There is this board:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/7-site-suggestions

However, a suggestion on that board won't get as much attention compared to the topic I posted a few hours ago.

What topic is that?

LusterSoldier posted...

creativename posted...

BTW, can someone ask Allen too add a games list if you hover over the match? Or even better, text with a list below the match? Not having a list is a significant problem IMO. Most people won't wait for the pics to change, and then won't recall the games shown if they do wait.

Is there a board for feature requests where one can suggest this? If there is and someone makes a suggestion topic, please link to it here so we can sign it.

Someone posted a topic on this board about adding a games list:

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75302233

Thanks. Is there a suggestions board where this could be posted? I'm afraid Allen won't see this topic.

Sign.

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2006 - 76%
2005 - 85%

I wonder if the trends indicate that the early vote will be "aware" and vote based on knowledge of the years, causing the results to be a bigger blowout than later, when results will be more random and towards a more even split.

BTW, can someone ask Allen too add a games list if you hover over the match? Or even better, text with a list below the match? Not having a list is a significant problem IMO. Most people won't wait for the pics to change, and then won't recall the games shown if they do wait.

Is there a board for feature requests where one can suggest this? If there is and someone makes a suggestion topic, please link to it here so we can sign it.

LeonhartFour posted...

Hmm...The poll updater stopped working about an hour ago, looks like.

@creativename

Thanks. The updater IP has probably been blocked. I've sent a feedback.

God, editing PHP code and a website on a cell phone is a bitch. I think I'm done though...hopefully nothing breaks.

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2009 - 84%
1989 - 74%
2006 - 80%
2005 - 87%

1995 - 88%
1987 - 54%
2001 - 74%
2008 - 60%

1997 - 67%
2007 - 65%
2000 - 58%
1996 - 70%

Confirming Ngamer.

Have you tried emailing King Morgoth? I doubt he visits the site. Do you have his email?

Sorry, I don't have the time to run it.

metroid composite posted...

Vlado posted...

That's a neat idea. Wouldn't that reduce the number of terror attacks and violence, too.

I mean, I dunno about other countries, but America has a long history of white on white terror attacks:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

I did a google search to see if I could find a percentage; in 1980-2005, which is unfortunatley a bit old for data, looks like muslims were 6% of all terror attacks in the US:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

I know I've seen newer data than that, and the number has definitely increased since ISIS, but it's still like 12%.

...

Also, if we're sending people back to their countries of skin colour origin...the people who's skin colour are from America are Native Americans. And yeah, white people killed them a bunch. So uh...I guess all the white people need to leave America and go back to Europe if we want to pull off this plan?

Great info. Excellent post!

NowItsAngeTime posted...

creativename posted...

charmander6000 posted...

system release may be a factor to the people that will take the name of the contest seriously, sort of like Game of the Decade. I don't see it being a huge factor unless people start putting them in the match picture.

My memory is hazy. What effects did people taking the title of GOTD seriously have again?

Deus Ex > Rock Band

Brawl haters refusing to let it win the contest after it beat Melee

I think those results could've happened anyway. Rock Band should be super weak, and this is ZeldaFAQs.

shane15 posted...

Great write-up so far.I can honestly see this just being a best game ever game contest in disguise though.Nobody will look past the usual suspects on this site and vote just because a certain game is in a match.OOT could've been released in a year with complete and utter trash and it'd still win the whole thing.

I don't think this is literally true.

If OoT was in a year that was otherwise 70's level in strength, I think 2001 and 1997 would beat it. Having both Square and Nintendo is significant IMO.

charmander6000 posted...

system release may be a factor to the people that will take the name of the contest seriously, sort of like Game of the Decade. I don't see it being a huge factor unless people start putting them in the match picture.

My memory is hazy. What effects did people taking the title of GOTD seriously have again?