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clearaflagrantj posted...

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Discipline is one. Information is the second.

It all boils down to 1 simple principal. As long as your food is single ingredient and as close to its natural state as possible, you can pretty much eat as much as you want, stay active, and be perpetually fit. That's it. No specific diet, no real need to even calorie count. No need for non GMO or only organic or any of that shit. Just eat sensibly as defined by those standards and you will be better off.

It is very simple, just not as easy as it should be for a lot of people.

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If I ate 4000 "natural" calories I'd become obese after a few months.

Try to eat 4000 calories of meat, veggies, and limited starches/rice/fruit that follow the parameters I mentioned. In most ordinary, consistent circumstances You will get to "as much as you want" before you get to levels that would make you obese or even gain any significant fat.

Discipline is one. Information is the second.

It all boils down to 1 simple principal. As long as your food is single ingredient and as close to its natural state as possible, you can pretty much eat as much as you want, stay active, and be perpetually fit. That's it. No specific diet, no real need to even calorie count. No need for non GMO or only organic or any of that shit. Just eat sensibly as defined by those standards and you will be better off.

It is very simple, just not as easy as it should be for a lot of people.

The problem is the fat acceptance movement (and I hesitate to associate them with any sort of movement at all, hence the obesity) has a pervasive problem of wanting to redefine "health" and "science" to suit their narratives.

We have only been this immobile and overfed as of recently as a species in light of all the time we had to be active. So a fat body is not our "natural" body as a species. Our body is meant to move, bare weight, carry shit, squat down and stand up, run, walk distances, climb, etc, all of which we've been doing as a collective more or less since the beginning of mankind. THAT is what is natural.

A grossly overweight person saying they don't have weight-related joint pain or dysfunction is either being outright dishonest to prop their narrative or they have just been in such shitty shape so long they no longer notice. Fat acceptance also seems to only see things in a binary sense. You are either in the fluffy/fat as shit camp or you are emaciated and need a sandwich. There is no athletic build, no true curves, nothing.

The movement seems to be composed of primarily fat fucking feminists who accomplish nothing outside of the movement and immerse themselves so fully in the rhetoric that their only sense of value is derived from the movement. There is no pride in willfully ignoring the problems associated with being out of shape, overly fat or overly skinny.

And they have this ridiculous tendency to shout anyone down who dares to point out the risks or be proud of their own fit body.

The entire movement is a sham almost exclusively for a useless minority of women to feel like their lives are being well-lived and have purpose. Their entire identity is the movement.

All that said, bullying them, being cruel, etc is not acceptable. And i mean actual bullying. Not a doctor telling some pig bitch she'll die if she doesn't manage to shrink her FUPA. But at a certain point the truth has to be allowed to be the truth regardless of feelings.

That last bit goes for any identity movement by the way. Left wing, right wing, fat acceptance, whatever.

Bluster posted...

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Or because it can't be proven and relies solely on circumstantial evidence and hearsay much like a lot of the "evidence" has been?

I've got no dog in the fight, just trying to understand the constant outrage

You seem to sound like you have a dog in the fight. If the intelligence community didn't think anything was there, they wouldn't still be investigating and issuing subpoenas, and people wouldn't be resigning from Trump's government as dirt was uncovered on them, and all the dirt has pointed to Russia.

I dont have one in the fight. I am asking. Like it can be the fact that everyone on the opposite side of the aisle as you is an irredeemable shit head, or it can be that there has been no problem connection (yet) and they aren't going to call for a head until there is. The reality is likely somewhere in the middle.

Yahoo had an article up with a headline like "Kushner says 'trump thinks his voters are idiots'" and the article is just about someone CLAIMING he said that to them. No proof, no record, nothing.

So it's hard to consider one side absolute evil when there is shit like that floating around that casts doubt on the integrity of journalism

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prince_leo posted...

ROD posted...

isn't the general consensus that the osteopathy part is pure quackery and DOs are good doctors because they also get all the other medical training MD's get?

you might be right
i've never gone to one and I don't really hang out with people who do, so it's not something i'm informed about. I just know that osteopath's do everything chiropractors do, but they have the benefit of actually going to medical school

of course, physiotherapists are real and much cheaper

I've read about osteopathy, apparently they thing they can cure regular diseases by manipulating the muscles/bones with massage because the larges organ is the skeleton (osteum).

I'd LOVE to talk to a real DO or an MD that knows about what it is, unusual or uncommon stuff fascinates me.

My ex is about halfway through medical school as a DO and from what i understand the manual manipulation is used as a treatment for things those dysfunctions would actually cause. Things like sciatic pain, joint issue, postural issues, immobility, etc. Nothing she has told me about it has indicated that shes learning to manually adjust in order to treat an actual disease or illness

Yeah, it's more mechanical problems. But they also do things like treating pneumonia (or the recovery of) by allowing the patient to breath easier, move fluids, etc. It's also important to remember this is adjunct medicine and every doctor will give medication when necessary.
Also, no osteopathic doctor will be like "you have cancer, luckily I can crack your bones in a magical way to make it disappear!"

Yeah that's what a lot of people need to learn with really any industry, but especially those having to do with your health. Learn how to sift through the bullshit and find the actual quality.

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So the only remaining issue is connecting Trump to It?

ya that's basically what this whole investigation's been about.

Trump's been obstructing the whole process, up to firing the dude in charge of investigating because he wouldn't stop investigating, so undeniably he should be charged with obstruction of justice. But he won't be, because Redhats are cultists and the GOP are spineless piles of sub-human filth.

Or because it can't be proven and relies solely on circumstantial evidence and hearsay much like a lot of the "evidence" has been?

I've got no dog in the fight, just trying to understand the constant outrage

ROD posted...

prince_leo posted...

ROD posted...

isn't the general consensus that the osteopathy part is pure quackery and DOs are good doctors because they also get all the other medical training MD's get?

you might be right
i've never gone to one and I don't really hang out with people who do, so it's not something i'm informed about. I just know that osteopath's do everything chiropractors do, but they have the benefit of actually going to medical school

of course, physiotherapists are real and much cheaper

I've read about osteopathy, apparently they thing they can cure regular diseases by manipulating the muscles/bones with massage because the larges organ is the skeleton (osteum).

I'd LOVE to talk to a real DO or an MD that knows about what it is, unusual or uncommon stuff fascinates me.

My ex is about halfway through medical school as a DO and from what i understand the manual manipulation is used as a treatment for things those dysfunctions would actually cause. Things like sciatic pain, joint issue, postural issues, immobility, etc. Nothing she has told me about it has indicated that shes learning to manually adjust in order to treat an actual disease or illness

Bluster posted...

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It says they were seized as punishment for the interference. But if the interference has not been proven, there is no reason for the seizure.

Is that correct?

No.

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

The intelligence community is certain of Russian interference in the election.

So the only remaining issue is connecting Trump to It?

prince_leo posted...

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Having a shitty mechanic fuck up your engine and then swearing off mechanics forever is stupid. You just need to be informed and find someone who can actually do things the right way

sure, but you can always go to an osteopath who actually went to medical school

Sure you can, but people are more familiar with Chiros and as long as that's an option it's good to realize there are both shitty and good ones. But people misunderstand the purpose. Chiropractic care, despite whatever bullshit claims Chiros (the majority of which are likely garbage) make, is a bandaid on an underlying muscular dysfunction. That's it. If you realize that, then you can do perfectly well with competent chiro care as long as you are also addressing the actual issue.

A shitty chiro will think they are treating the cause rather than acknowledging they deal in symptoms, knowing you will be recurring business. A good one will equip you to correct the cause.

It says they were seized as punishment for the interference. But if the interference has not been proven, there is no reason for the seizure.

Is that correct?

KILBOTz posted...

as a tall guy, ive always had mid/upper back problems. chiropractors are the fucking worst, i will never go to another one. feels good for a couple of days and then everything is worse. went to 3 different ones on and off throughout high school, never again.

Chiropractic care isn't a solution to a problem, it is the temporary relief from the issues the actual problem causes. Muscles move the bones, not the other way around. Adjustments will get bones that have been disoriented from muscular imbalance back into place, but if the cause isn't addressed it is only ever a bandaid.

A chiro should x Ray you in order to see exactly where the disorientations are and by how much and first and foremost recommend ways to correct the muscular cause and then give you temporary relief through adjustment, which even if temporary, can provide you log enough relief (even if a few days) to do the corrective work relatively pain free.

Having a shitty mechanic fuck up your engine and then swearing off mechanics forever is stupid. You just need to be informed and find someone who can actually do things the right way

It's just fat dudes and guys who can only get fat girls who are complaining about her being too skinny

I know this isn't a serious topic but anyone suggesting to avoid foods containing cholesterol does not know what they are talking about

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Poor girl was responsible for escalating all her own problems.
even the main problem with the situation with Bryce, which he dispicably took advantage of. She stupidly went here and got in his hot tub in underwear knowing he was there and after witnessing him raping her friend, which she also did absolutely nothing about

I understand how serious depression can be and how it manifests itself even without reasons that people would typically consider "real problems", but in the context of a show it helps to have the tragic character, even if they cause their own downfall, be likable enough for you to root for their survival/success.

Also the show was 5 or so episodes too long. Hopefully the second season detailing a school shooting will be much more thoroughly compelling

I thought her making bad decisions was kind of the point. Every character was an emotional teenager who constantly did stupid shit. Pretty true to life.

Absolutely. But if they want to make a point about suicide, I'm not sure that's how you go about it. It is made for awareness for teens who may be contemplating suicide. They see Hannah, in control of all of her blown-out-of-proportion non-issues (barring THAT one in regards to being a non issue), and see that she doesn't have it so bad and she still killed herself. Then they look at their own life, perhaps plagued by abject poverty, actual bullying, physical abuse from parents, etc and the perspective of the show just seems so insignificant.

If it as just a movie/show made to tell a tragic story, Hannah frustratingly exacerbating all her own shit would have been fine. But one that is made with the pretense of being a voice for struggling teens and a guide for them should take a little more care in the narrative approach to getting that message across.

Poor girl was responsible for escalating all her own problems.
even the main problem with the situation with Bryce, which he dispicably took advantage of. She stupidly went here and got in his hot tub in underwear knowing he was there and after witnessing him raping her friend, which she also did absolutely nothing about

I understand how serious depression can be and how it manifests itself even without reasons that people would typically consider "real problems", but in the context of a show it helps to have the tragic character, even if they cause their own downfall, be likable enough for you to root for their survival/success.

Also the show was 5 or so episodes too long. Hopefully the second season detailing a school shooting will be much more thoroughly compelling

Pineapple on pizza is good, which i dont even understand how is controversial.

But to really ruffle some feathers... bacon is a through-and-through meme food. People pretend to think it's the greatest thing ever and obsess over it solely because the internet tells them it's the "in" thing. Bacon is perfectly fine, just like pretty much any other food. But all the "bacon is life" nonsense is ridiculous

even IF it was, it is a net positive. The last thing we need as a society is more stupid kids with incompetent, neglectful, and unfit parents.

The ME said he did not suffer any burns of any kind.