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SmartMuffin posted...

Planned Parenthood isn't breaking any laws. Including that 3%.

Then the 3% doesn't matter. If your point is that it's legal and moral, it shouldn't matter whether it comprises 99.9% or 0.01%.

At least the trolls saying "f*** all pro life people they're stupid" understand this simple fact. I'd rather deal with them than with people who pretend to be all thoughtful and logical while turning a total blind eye to what the actual argument actually is.

You cannot conflate the country's morals with personal morals. The belief that abortion is murder cannot exist in this discussion because it is speaking for the guidelines of the country, and the country does not view abortion as such. So when bringing up 3%, it will never be an argument that "3% of what the hospital does is murdering babies!" because that is not what the country believes. It is an invalid argument. The discussion can ONLY be about cutting out an institution that *objectively* does a lot of good, which there is zero argument for.

SmartMuffin posted...

Gligirl posted...

Abortion is legal. Those views are 110% irrelevant.

Not irrelevant if you actually want to convince anyone of anything. But if you just want to insult them I guess it's okay. But surely that's not all you're interest....

which is why opponents of abortion are garbage

lol whoops

It's not an insult, your personal views don't dictate a country.

Vegans find meat (hell, jellybeans) immoral but that don't mean we gotta make bacon illegal!

Abortion is legal. Those views are 110% irrelevant.

That's importance via other institutions slacking. Ideally abortions should be more accessible.

SmartMuffin posted...

Abortions are a very, very small minority of what PP does.

Then why doesn't PP stop giving abortions?

The rest of their funding would then be completely safe, and their mission of providing critical non-abortion "womens health" services would be not at all at risk.

................... what? the f***?

because they want to care for women and that especially includes operations that aren't easy for them to do safely in parts of the country that neglect them