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Golden Road posted...

I'm not sure how big Hardee's smallest burgers are, so I'm not sure how reasonable it would be to eat three of those. I know three of McDonald's smallest burgers aren't as much as one double quarter pounder, though, so three burgers isn't necessarily an unreasonable amount.

Quarter pound patty if memory serves(non kid's menu of course). Typical is a third pound patty followed by a half pound patty. Largest is a double third I think.

So at minimum, dude in OP got the equivalent of a Wendy's triple.
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Honestly, so was already losing steam by Day 2 and the Terra flip just killed what I had left. Being gone for the active parts of the day didn't help but once it finally settles in that trying to make sense of the roles and setup was going to be largely useless I think I legit stopped really caring.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

nothing about this game makes sense

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htaeD posted...

MZero11 posted...

good point death, we should hammer

##Vote: Ben

Brohan dies tomorrow

GranAures posted...

Choo, Choo?

I didnt mean that fast
has everyone (besides Brohan) chimed in yet?

They've atleast posted.
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Choo, Choo?
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Nanahara715 posted...

I don't understand why they need a Ninja for Ben to be town?

I was just about to walk through it and then realized that while Strongman is normally an extra kill, it doesn't have to be. So fair point.
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Honestly, I don't see the "has to" part otherwise all of town's protection goes caput if VI gets killed.
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A thought crossed my mind in the shower.

If we look at everything that has been claimed. Ben visited Chris night 2, Ulti was blocked night 3, and both the claimed Jailer and Roleblocker are limited shot which would make them both vanilla after night 2.
With Ulti's claimed block we can assume that one of them is lying about being 3 shot but if there is an Infinite blocking role around why was Chris not blocked both night 2 and night 3? Scum couldn't have known he was Backup psychic because he couldn't have been scanned night 1 thanks to VI and they couldn't have scanned him night 2 or he'd have seen a second visitor.

Conversely, why does scum shoot VI without blocking Chris? They would only do that if they had an unstoppable kill, but since those are usually extra kills why not shoot Chris too but he's still alive and only saw his blocker.

For Ben to be scum: He is a finite shot blocker, otherwise there is no reason not to double block Chris.

For Ben to be town: Scum absolutely has to have an extra kill and a ninja.

##Unvote

Ben was at 3 by last count, and as much as I would love to full switch just to keep the argument from circling around back and forth between 99% Scum Ben and Cop Scanned Scum Brohan I'll refrain.

If Ben does flip X-shot Scum blocker though, we have two great follow up lynched in Brohan and the guy who logistically could not have been blocked on night 3
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I can get behind that before going off to bed.

##Vote: Brohan
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Sceptilesolar posted...

What does BFZ flashbacks mean? Another game?

Battle for Zendikar, and yes. In that particular game Ulti claimed Town Vanilla then later added in that he had received a Gambler shot from being on the Day 2 scum lynch which he "used" to shoot scum Roleblocker but said he would still flip Vanilla. He was actually the equivalent to a godfather and had used the factional kill to shoot his own team mate and proceeded to solo win the game. Similarly in this game he opened with a Backup Tracker("vanilla") and now has a claim that nobody understands.
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Nanahara715 posted...

I'm liking Gran less and less because he was super active in RPG Mafia but seems wildly different here.

Keep in mind I also never woke up to 200+ posts in RPG mafia either and have been running out of mental steam over here. Doesn't help when near all the activity takes place during work or sleep. Ibwill say it's a fair point to make though.

I can also say the return for you, because for all the Nana fire I'd have expected to see a noticeable presence to try to turn Terra's lynch onto someone else but I'm pretty sure all the yellow posts I saw were Terra during that whole mess.

Anywho, @Sceptilesolar since I have the opportunity now, gun to my head with a day vig in my hands I'd flip a coin between Ulti and Brohan. Brohan has given jack nothing so it is a far less substantial feeling and more a desire to just get him sorted before giving it the chance to bite us is the ass. Ulti, conversely just had a case of read whiplash and I am having severe BFZ flashbacks from his claim.

Beyond that, it would really depend on what flipped from your scan. If a Scum extra kill, such as strongman, flipped it would i be irrevocable grounds to lynch ben but a blocker or Ninja flip would give me a better feeling on him. Before your scan though I have to keep him scum side. As he admitted himself confirmed town VI is absolutely a save but making sure doc can't make that save is going to make doc look like ass.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Gran, who are your suspects?

Holding this for later, involved posts are going to be a bit difficult until I get home.
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htaeD posted...

Honestly I am surprised everyone was willing to kill Chris before he came in
did nobody assume a scumRB?

Would be weird not to assume that honestly.
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bng_mmmk posted...

my votals match Lolo's

Brand new fresh topic for Day 3 plox?
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benjamin3740 posted...

GranAures posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

It does bother me that Terra basically ignored Chris' claim, even when it was shown to him.

Smells like a bus "bothers you" or doesn't want to trying to push a counter lynch on Chris "bothers you"

Well I just dont see how a true Protection Jack wouldnt suspect Chris is scum or at least have some sort of reaction

So the latter.

VeryInsane posted...

I turned into a Miller, MK. And I said it before he claimed a guilty scan on me

Found out last night I was effectively a Miller too

Also assuming you (VI) were scum would force you to be set up as an auto lynch which seems really unfair.
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benjamin3740 posted...

It does bother me that Terra basically ignored Chris' claim, even when it was shown to him.

Smells like a bus "bothers you" or doesn't want to trying to push a counter lynch on Chris "bothers you"
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

Can anyone draw a line to a teammate that could easily be with VI or Scept?

Im not even sure what's being asked for here.
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VeryInsane posted...

You know Ulti rejected the claim...

But the thing with Ulti is his favorite Pastime is bussing his teammates to increase his ego and make himself look like a god

So I don't completely buy him. Yet.

He also has a BFZ claim so that is something else to keep in mind.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

So meta is the only argument against me right now?

Eh it's a little more than that.

Someone needs to take a hard look at Nana and his post about Terra being guaranteed town, by the way.

It basically amounted to Terra is going to claim Serial 1 shot Doc for today anyway.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

It seems pretty obvious what happened. Terra thought he could get away with a protection claim because none of them had claimed and it's generally not verifiable, especially given that it's ambiguous whether anyone could backup off it (despite what Ulti says, I believe Backup <Role> usually can only backup that specific role). Unfortunate that one existed.

My role says specifically anyone with the power, death has stipulated as much himself. We both even openly speculated that backup could pull from a jack.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Well I am claiming now because we need to have a discussion about this game in a very serious way.

I am Serial Doctor. I targeted VI last night and was also helpfully informed I had been redirected to VI.

My immediate thought is to agree with Ulti, but this is a weird game.

##Unvote
##Vote: Terra

Jack with a self heal, a jailkeeper, and a doctor all existing in 15 players is absurd. This also makes eaedwards look a lot better.

What? No one even claimed doc??

It's right there.
##Vote: Terra
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UltimaterializerX posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Hm, Terra is Town for sure now

Why? My first reaction was "oh yay another scum jack claiming his real role". I have no trust for jack claims, commuter claims, or miller claims anymore.

Honestly, if he had claimed two or three of EBG, Doc, or BP I would have straight up voted him.
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Brohan is actually seemingly Serial Not 1 Shot _______
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

On mobile. Can someone recap the roles for me. Will be at a computer in about 20 for rest of day.

1. Sceptile - Serial 1 shot cop
2. Nana - backup ebg
3. Ulti - Former Backup Tracker turned ?
4. GranAures - backup bp
5. Terra-enforcer - Jack(Doctor, BG, Self Doc)
6. death - backup watcher
7. eaedwards6400 - Serial Nurse
8. benjamin3740 - Serial 1 shot Jailer
9. Meta_Knight123 - ?
10. DoomTheGyarados - ?
11. Brohan - ?
12. MZero - backup Ninja w/?
13. VI - Serial 1 shot Universal Lightning Rod Vengeful Gambler (w/hidden Miller)
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And we would all love to hear more from Brohan.
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htaeD posted...

the heck is a selfheal?

And just a regular BG?
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GranAures posted...

htaeD posted...

well I do not want to leave my vote on him while I am gone (have to get up early for work tomorrow)

##Unvote

yet I dont have an immediate strong desire to lynch someone else

also hey Ben is here again, was wondering where he went

Doesn't want to leave a vote down on Brohan while gone (presumably having no vote down at eod)

htaeD posted...

ah
was just wondering, since your vote was not on Brohan

anyway, I am considering just voting Eaed
let me look at his last post

Then wants to throw it on a splinter vote.

Well, considers it.
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htaeD posted...

well I do not want to leave my vote on him while I am gone (have to get up early for work tomorrow)

##Unvote

yet I dont have an immediate strong desire to lynch someone else

also hey Ben is here again, was wondering where he went

Doesn't want to leave a vote down on Brohan while gone (presumably having no vote down at eod)

htaeD posted...

ah
was just wondering, since your vote was not on Brohan

anyway, I am considering just voting Eaed
let me look at his last post

Then wants to throw it on a splinter vote.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

htaeD posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

MZero11 posted...

Brohan is probably phoning it in and hoping we freak out and mislynch someone

Yeah I guess. I'll just say this. I have no desire to continue to defend people who won't play.

is that a stealth jab at Mzero?

? No, a not-stealth jab at Brohan.

And Terra and eaed. Feels like only half the game showed for day 2 part 2.
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Thinking of that.

##Unvote: Brohan
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Sceptilesolar posted...

GranAures posted...

This generic quiet is a bit unnerving, didn't feel this quiet at this tike on the proper day 1.

It definitely was. I was the one complaining about it then.

We've got two and a half hours and I don't feel comfortable in the current direction. Are we going to lynch Brohan? That's basically no better than when we lynched Red D1. It's going to be easy because he isn't doing anything. If he doesn't show up, I guess it's probably unavoidable that he gets lynched. He can't just lurk for two straight days and constantly miss deadline. Maybe we get lucky this time but I don't feel too comfortable about it. Not really sure.

It's a little worse from my side of things given that it's been a stagnated lynch for hours now, where at least Red mobilized fast.
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This generic quiet is a bit unnerving, didn't feel this quiet at this tike on the proper day 1.
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htaeD posted...

would be funny if we had a doctor and a backupnurse, but nothing in between to link the two

meanwhile Gran is slightly winning me over from not wanting to pursue him today, just by being here
I cant say the same for a lot of other players

it feels like day1 never ended

By all accounts it probably didn't.
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Ultii posted...

Where?

(Sorry I am INSANELY busy this weekend.)

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75386776/879814397
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GranAures posted...

Ultii posted...

Checking in from grilling. I actually could get behind an eaed lynch. I typically have a huge weakness with lynching protection claims, but he claimed backup nurse instead of just.... you know. Nurse. If his claim is honest, it means we have a backup doctor for our backup doctor. That strikes me as extremely unfair to game balance given night 1 tipping the setup's hand as scum having no unblockable kill.

Consider my vote on ed but I don't have time to find all the symbols for html on mobile.

He did just claim nurse.

Well serial nurse
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Ultii posted...

Checking in from grilling. I actually could get behind an eaed lynch. I typically have a huge weakness with lynching protection claims, but he claimed backup nurse instead of just.... you know. Nurse. If his claim is honest, it means we have a backup doctor for our backup doctor. That strikes me as extremely unfair to game balance given night 1 tipping the setup's hand as scum having no unblockable kill.

Consider my vote on ed but I don't have time to find all the symbols for html on mobile.

He did just claim nurse.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Well I had Gran on my list of people who I should kill if they claim backup. Time to go look back and look at his day 1 responses to Nana I guess

I tell you what my response was.

I wasn't soft claiming.

The same thing I said during my claim.
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

GranAures posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

Brhon and Mzero and eade were the suspicious people I was looking at. I like death but he his scum read by a ton of people so I could be wrong, but I would rather kill someone else today.

Gran has played a towny game
NaNa's claim is so pure.
Ben has played a towny game.

I think the that eade has the highest chance for being a hit because of how bad his claim was.

In your own words, why was the claim bad?

He changed the claim half way through giving it. I can tell you exactly how useless my claim is word for word without looking at it.

I'll give you that much to a degree but on the counter I had to double check my PM earlier in the day to make sure I had my bells and whistles write. In fact, I checked it before I asked my little question a couple pages ago.
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htaeD posted...

Terra kept saying he'd scan someone day1, didnt he?

Not according to his soft claim early this day phase.
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

Brhon and Mzero and eade were the suspicious people I was looking at. I like death but he his scum read by a ton of people so I could be wrong, but I would rather kill someone else today.

Gran has played a towny game
NaNa's claim is so pure.
Ben has played a towny game.

I think the that eade has the highest chance for being a hit because of how bad his claim was.

In your own words, why was the claim bad?
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htaeD posted...

Liked him, but he's been very nonpresent as of late, so my faith is faltering
he's a suspect, hasnt really done anything
is Brohan, more useless than usual
Is cool in my book, also less active during this weekend, but not to the extent that it bothers me

They all seem to have that issue this day phase.
Eaed has felt like a bit of a parrot today. Very night and day compared to day 1.
MK had at least what looked like a serviceable counter to Sceptile going after him over Brohan and Red.
Terra and Brohan. Literally who? Terra has that fairly natural looking soft claim but he's looking even more absent than me.
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VeryInsane posted...

brooooooohaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn

4 hours left, L-2.

I concur.
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GranAures posted...

Brohan should be at 5

That was my vote after VI not Nana.
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Brohan should be at 5
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VeryInsane posted...

That said I don't see scum eaedwards going after Chris with that much venom

Possibility of them being scumbuddies? Maybe. If they are though I have a feeling we are in trouble

The context is nice to have. Just wound up noticing a big drop in the quality of his posts between the 2 days.
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VeryInsane posted...

Kinda, last few games as Town he has brought up his family and such so I know he's busy

I'll try to keep that in mind.
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VeryInsane posted...

I'm pondering because even though I want Brohan to get in and boogie, I also know he can at times be lazy

Bleh

Is eaed equally normally non-existent?
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htaeD posted...

okay I guess I will drop it
I'll just say that my thought was that I was thinking about a jack having multiple abilities that could be backed up
but its not likely anyway

Figured that's where you were going.
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htaeD posted...

however I do not have a problem with Eaeds claim on a wording level and not so much technically either, as I cant trust Puns to be super consistent

I recall another backup also claiming to have a second power or something (besides Ulti)

MZero
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Terror-enforcer posted...

I finished reading last topic and I'll catch up here when I get a chance sometime later. I saw there was a request for a massclaim, so if enough want me to do so I can claim as well.

You, Brogan, MZero's "other half," and Ulti's "new role" are all that's left iirc.
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