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Doom_Art posted...

Hell yeah maybe now I'll be able to buy a house

your savings and income are rapidly losing spending power, so good luck with that

hockeybub89 posted...

At people harming others. You'll never be able to murder someone with a cheeseburger, just like how you can't spread obesity like a virus to unsuspecting innocents.

Basically, your freedom is less than worthless if it comes at the expense of someone else's life/health.

Cigarette companies, alcohol distributors, and fast food chains are not only hurting people, theyre incentivized to do so by profit.

Ruvan22 posted...

Are you saying laws should only be drafted around "the most statistical threat or danger"?

Nope

WingsOfGood posted...

Inflation would be like 30 cents not 5 dollars.

Now you are struggling to find a way yo justify this.

This after you tried to claim Exxon made no profit only revenue.

Which was disprove by them making 5 billion in profit not revenue.

Can you not read or are you just intentionally being dense? I said their profit margins shrank from Q4 2021 to Q1 of 2022. Yknow, the time period most of the increase in the price of gasoline occurred.

Decreased margins doesnt mean they didnt turn a profit genius. It means the percentage difference between their total revenue and expenses shrank. If they were charging more while their expenses remained the same, aka price gouging, those margins would increase, not decrease.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Seems like if you ever get attached to those children and a break up happens you not only have zero rights to see the children again but they also see you as abandoning them since you are not around anymore.

Im pretty sure if you legally adopt your spouses children you have the same parental rights as a biological parent.

If you dont legally adopt them obviously youre not entitled to visitations and such.

Ive never heard anyone who actually has kids talk about this kind of shit. Im honestly not sure Ive ever heard anyone talk about it outside of the internet.

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My only point this entire topic is that the vast majority of responses to this monologue either obviously didnt watch it or are misrepresenting what Maher actually said. Any notions of diverting were conjured up in your own head. Cause its definitely not based on anything he or I said.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Balancing is the wrong word. There's definitely a type of freedom in security that republicans + gun supporters have all thrown away. Being able to live your life without being in fear of being a victim in a random shooting is a freedom most Americans will never have. (or they can but that's more stupidity). There's other freedoms American's have thrown away unrelated to safety as well, just as the freedoms offered by national healthcare and a decent welfare system.

I think it's a totally appropriate word. Security comes from stifling the free acts of others for those who would use that freedom of action to harm others. Such as being able to freely buy a firearm to use that gun to murder innocent people, and countless other examples.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Absolutely agreed. However, the specifics get controversial for some reason. It's obviously a net benefit to restrict guns, as the mass gun ownership in America negatively impacts most peoples safety, yet for some reason gun control wasn't implemented decades ago.

There would be a net benefit to saying unhealthy foods shouldn't be allowed to be consumed and daily physical activity should be mandated. Obviously, the thought of that isn't as visceral as children being murdered by psychopaths with guns but statistically speaking unhealthy foods and unhealthy lifestyles do more damage to the personal health of people than gun violence does...so where exactly are we drawing the line here?

The President doesn't work with members of the media. What a dip shit take

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Neither I nor Bill Maher is deflecting from the discussion of gun control. You're deflecting from even considering the aggregate negative effects of things you personally enjoy and consume.

Fuck silver, I've got a bridge to sell you

Obviously drink urine, wtf

Am I the only person who rage quit after the first "boss"

I don't really recall details but mechanics felt cheap with a substantial hike in difficulty early in the game. kind of killed it for me.

There's politics and gossip in pretty much any workplace dude, it's just human nature. People favor and reward people they like and people who have something to gain from someone else's favor are going to try to be liked by them.

hockeybub89 posted...

Hypocrisy of what? In the context of mass shootings and gun availability, what is Hollywood hypocritical on? What point are they undercutting?

Why stop at Hollywood? I've played violent video games almost every week for 20+ years. I've shot tens of thousands of video game NPCs and have no intent of stopping. Does this make me a hypocrite for having an issue with shootings and how easy it is to obtain a gun? Why and how if we've agreed video games are not part of the problem?

The hypocrisy of condemning gun violence while simultaneously profiting off of the glorification of it?

He's also not calling for censorship of violent media either. To say he is or is undercutting the gun control debate is intellectually dishonest and just a weak ass dodge of even trying to respond to his actual point.

Of course, there are people who play video games and watch movies that glorify violence every day that have no intention of inflicting violence onto others. There are also people who've shot guns almost every day of their adult life that have no intention to do violence onto others. Obviously cutting guns out of the equation is a practical measure to lower gun violence. That doesn't mean there's no philosophical discussion to have about other aspects such as violent media and the messages young and dysfunctional men are getting from the media that they consume.

WingsOfGood posted...

You try so

Soooooo

Hard

And fail harder

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2022/04/30/exxon-profits-2022 -double-first-quarter/9598018002/

What motivates you to jolt and quip at the rescue of these poor corparations daily I wonder....

yoy from probably the lowest demand in gasoline and highest rate of inflation in our lifetime? Yeah, no shit

You do understand inflation also mitigates and devalues current revenues and earnings in comparison to past revenues and earnings right? Earnings and revenues are worth less on an inherent dollar to dollar basis than they were last year.

Large differences in margin of profit between revenue and the cost of producing that revenue would be more damning evidence of price gouging. Youve yet to show anything to prove that is the case and recent public financials show that isnt the case.

But what is a woman?

Ive never even heard of peach brandy tbh.

it might taste a bit different but I doubt its going to be offensively different. Might even be better

Smashingpmkns posted...

This still doesn't explain why other country's dont suffer from the same problem

The ease of access to guns is obviously the major difference from country to country. As I said, he deliberately made the point to say he isn't undercutting the fact that ease of access to firearms is also obviously a large factor. So if you immediately say that his intent is to undercut that you obviously didn't watch what he even said.

He's not proposing the solution to gun violence or mass shootings. He's calling out Hollywood on its hypocrisy.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

A "free society" like what the republicans want is basically the wild west, or before that, when pirates roamed free. There's other types of freedom they absolutely do not care about, such as a kids freedom to go to school without fearing for their lives, or for someone to be able to walk down the street without fearing for their lives etc. Whenever you bring up these types of freedoms and how they are revoking them from others, they always ghost you.

I wouldn't say any of those things have anything to do with freedom. Civilization itself is a balancing act of freedom vs security. One of the few "Pros" you'll hear from people who've lived under some of the most repressive regimes in recent history is that crime was almost nonexistent, assuming you don't include the criminal way people were treated by their own government.

A truly "free society", in my mind, would be one that guarantees people the right to do whatever they want so long as it doesn't negatively impact another. That would obviously never work so cleanly. Given an excess of freedom, there are going to be people who abuse that freedom for their own personal gain or purposes. Pretty much everyone would abuse such freedom if their back were against the wall to do so. Therefore it would be chaos. It's dogmatic nonsense that libertarians constantly get bogged down in.

I actually watched it, which is probably more than what 90% of you will do. He's not wrong. Movies do romanticize gun violence and plots of vengeance and retribution through violence.

He even goes out of his way to say his point isn't to undercut the role of ease of access to firearms, because it's obviously what every predictable dickwad would and has jumped to, to try and change the subject.

A "free society" seems like one of those bullshit concepts people just twist and turn into their personal interpretation of what it should mean.

A truly free society would be terrifying. It's not even really civilization anymore, just anarchy.

BLT's are stupid good, and I'm not even a huge bacon guy. Something magical about the combination of toasted white bread and bacon. One of the best examples of a sandwich that's exponentially more than the sum of it's parts.

Being simple isn't always a bad thing

WingsOfGood posted...

And yet we see people even ITT trying to say otherwise....

Exxon grew revenue while earnings shrank from Q4 2021 to Q1 2022. So obviously price increases aren't just raking higher margins for them.

WingsOfGood posted...

You are good at math yes?

So 30 cents of 3 dollar upcharge to you means we need to say inflation has a big hand in it???

?

Lmao

This isn't a simple math problem of general inflation rates. Gasoline consumption was extremely low for the past two years, which means the production of gas was slowed by a lot. Now demand has risen back up and production isn't meeting the demand. You can't just snap your fingers and increase production on that kind of scale, it takes time. Combine that with the situation with Russia and the general trend of currency devaluation.

Once again, I'm not sure why you have this notion that gasoline producers just suddenly became greedy. They've always been greedy and wanted to push their margins as high as possible while at least maintaining their general revenue.

Do you Think lumber producers just suddenly were overtaken by greed? Poultry and beef producers? The economy's in the fucking toilet with countless bottlenecking factors in production.

Inflation is not the singular reason gas prices are where they are. Gas companies didnt just suddenly become extra greedy.

Yes, I've shot rifles designed within the past hundred years or so if that's what you mean.

g0ldie posted...

I meant in general.

like, you can't just walk up to them if you want to, right? or if they think someone might try to break in their house, the response would be quicker than it would be for you or me.

Without knowing specifics I'm sure they do. You and me also almost certainly don't have complete strangers that would specifically target us and murder us or members of our family given the chance either.

Atralis posted...

The TC. The US enslaved black people for hundreds of years and even after the civil war freed the slaves there was a convulsion in the early 20th century that led to race riots in the north in places that never had slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadir_of_American_race_relations

I mean shit you could point to the LA riots as being worse in terms of race relations that anything we've had in the past 30 years.

I think his point was people who think the TT is true are dumb and obviously wrong.

Atralis posted...

You must be trolling.

Me or the TC?

g0ldie posted...

don't public officials already have some level of heightened security, whether it's in their homes, of their person, and/or the level of response that they receive?

unless if they're asking for security on the level of the Secret Service, maybe it's not exactly the most pressing issue society is dealing with.

I'm sure they do. Doesn't a heightened threat warrant heightened security?

NoMeLx22x posted...

I mean sure and they're being too dramatic in saying that.

But they're definitely worse now than 15 years ago for sure.

Obama broke people's brains.

Half true. Obama broke the brain of every dip shit republican. Trump broke the brain of every dipshit liberal.

Amber Heard seems like the obvious answer. Young Jada Pinkett and Stacy Dash come to mind too

No fap has always seemed really weird to me. Unless you're someone who has a legitimate problem that's having serious repercussions in your day-to-day life.

Vowing not to fap for as long as you can seems comparable to vowing to not take a shit for as long as you can.

g0ldie posted...

I mean, not really.

whenever there's a mass shooting or anything that negatively affects the average person, republicans sit on their hands, talking about how we shouldn't politicize the situation, and let things pass without doing anything.

a republican SC judge, on the other hand, someone who lives in a safe area and most likely has his own security, having his safety threatened, is now something of the utmost priority, and needs to be addressed NOW

Do you think we should place less precedence on the security of the President?

This isn't a defense of the GOP. They're collectively playing partisanship as they always do. But protecting public officials from physical violence is important regardless of whether or not you agree with them. Otherwise, it undermines the entire state. I promise you that a country that's dictated by who's more effective at leveraging violence and threats of violence to get what they want isn't one you want to live in.

Being pro-intemidation of public officials through means of violence is a pretty weird route to take this argument...

Sounds like you're just feeling old and jaded. If you were magically transferred back to that time I promise you would think it all sucks and miss the advancements you take for granted.

I'm definitely not as into it as a lot, or even most, men seem to be. It's nice but it's almost never more than foreplay to me. I've only finished a handful of times from oral in my entire life.

Though I always found it to be a personal red flag if a girl was very against it. Tying yourself down to a single girl who's taking pretty basic sex acts off the table always seemed like a pretty bad idea to me.

RealityDose posted...

I mean after about six months it gets to about 5 inches so I can grow one

How full it grows in is more important than how long and fast you can grow it.

If you've got patchy bullshit facial hair you should shave it(if you care how look). If it grows full and slow, sounds like a good thing unless you're going for a father time look.

I mean, she's crazy but...who gives a shit? If you don't like it don't watch anything she's in. I personally doubt I'll have too many conflicts of interest on the matter.

Growing a beard is almost always a good move if you can grow a good one. I don't remember ever having a huge issue with food, but if I did I got used to it.

Kind of weird you feel the need to downplay racism and any other form of hate, but okay

This definitely doesnt reek of fetichism