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HHH_is_the_game posted...

No, it's not. You can't call demeaning names to a whole group because of the bad actions of some within it. That's called a slur. Just because THESE cops did awful things doesn't mean that gives you free reign to demean and insult all cops.

If you feel justified pointing to these cops and using it as an excuse to use slurs, maybe think about how you'd feel if people used this as an excuse with racism. It's not cool and shouldn't be allowed or welcomed.

These cops suck but it's uncomfortable seeing this used as an excuse to go at all cops, just like it'd be the same if people posted videos of other races committing crime and used it as an excuse to get angry at the entire race

I would call your opinions shit, but shit is at least the result of something productive.

Prestoff posted...

Yep, having the person "step down" is probably the only real legal way to handle this situation. It would be illegal to get fired for over something like cheating on their spouse, I know because that's exactly what happened to our CFO at our company.

Ned was let go due to compromising his media personality and creating an unworkable work environment.

Cheating on his wife caused all that, but isn't directly why he was fired.

Firing the unrelated "victims " of what happened would be totlaly wrong, probably illegal.

Ned is the only person they could legally let go in this situation. I find it more probable that he stepped down though.

WizardPowers posted...

And dad bods have been considered attractive for like 5+ years now. Dad bods are muscular bods with a layer of fat

The argument I was having is about visibly muscular body types.
Having muscles and being visibly muscular are different.
And being visibly muscular should not be "a goal for every man".

Dad bods being attractive happened because of the discussion we're having right now.

Yet look at how Thor in End Game was received. Mocked relentlessly both irl and in the movies.
Popular media has been doing its best for decades to make men believe that being visibly muscular is the only attractive body type.

I'm glad it's changing, and will continue changing.

HHH_is_the_game posted...

Slurs are still not ok. If you read a story about a black person doing a crime that doesn't mean you can start throwing around the N word. Anybody calling people pigs should be modded but this is a horrible tragedy and the officers involved should be punished

What a shit take lmao

bigblu89 posted...

Exactly.

Being healthy, being in shape, and being aesthetically pleasing to the eye are three completely different things.

I agree. And being muscular being the only "pleasing" body type within popular media is hurtful, even if I understand why.
Women fought for body positivity (and are still fighting), it's time for men to do the same.

AsucaHayashi posted...

within reasonable limits is literally all it takes to develop visible musculature.

you know what's worse than "jocks" telling others to get in shape?
it's those others vastly overestimating the effort it takes as some far out unattainable goal only achievable by the few chosen ones.

I work outside 8 hours a day, as I said moving and lifting heavy objects. Just right now I'm about to process and evaluate a Volvo VNL.
And as I said, I've got a dad bod. I don't go to the gym, don't run or jog.
I've got a decent layer of fat, and sit around 200lbs.

Yet my doctors insist I'm perfectly healthy and within range of what I should be, depsite the only visibly muscular part of me being my calves.
My upper body looks like Andy from Parks and Recs, but a bit less belly.

MrDrMan posted...

Im not saying they were wrong to fire him. Im saying why make a statement? Why would they make this public knowledge other than to embarrass them? Everyone doesnt need to know everything. Its nobodys business but theirs.

They could easily just quietly phase him out. Now theyve opened the floodgates for people to comment on their relationship even though it isnt their place to do so.

Cheating isnt right but people dont deserve to have their lives aired out and to be ostracized.

He's a public media personality.
If he simply disappeared it absolutely will affect viewership, and (this is the internet] people would very likely start review/comment bombing videos until they had am answer.

Coming out and saying "he is no longer with us going forward" is the right approach.

They didn't need to list the reasons, but he came out and made his own statement so really it's moot.

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That is actually much better wording. The problem in the media and imaging at large is the focus on visible muscles = attractiveness.

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It gets discussed very much online. Look at magazines focused at men. The focus is on "get big!"
"Gain mass!"
"10 tips for a better beard!"

Not on health.
Even actors within Hollywood have stated how difficult, unreasonable, and unhealthy it is to maintain their "on screen" look.

Yet the entire internet drools over that appearance, and it puts a lot of pressure on average men.

AsucaHayashi posted...

shirtless pic where you flex since anybody who can lift heavy on a regular basis is bound to have some type of muscle appearance even if it's surrounded by fatty tissue.

That's really weird thing to ask. I'm gonna say no.
I very much have a "dad bod", but nobody online needs to see it.

AsucaHayashi posted...

shirtless pic where you flex since anybody who can lift heavy on a regular basis is bound to have some type of muscle appearance even if it's surrounded by fatty tissue.

-plenty of people with physical disabilities work out or play sports etc.
-exercise is a common treatment for chronic pain.
-same as physical disability
-if you have a mental illness that doesn't allow you to function properly in society then yea, you probably got other things to worry about than staying fit.

Within reasonable limits.
Again, the goal should be to be healthy. Not being visibly muscular.

SC6 was awesome, but SC3 was the peak.
The biggest problem is that they moved away from total customization and started limiting options.

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The problem in the discourse is all the sources saying "you're not a real man unless X".
"You're not attractive unless X"

See the above disgusting poster calling people "fat fucks".

And yes, there are many people who are completely (or reasonably) incapable of developing muscles.
What about physical disabilities?
Chronic pain issues?
Mobility issues?
Mental illnesses? (Including executive dysfunction disorders)

It isn't a goal that's attainable for everyone.
Simply being healthy should be the goal, and anything beyond that is personal preference and ability.

The goal is to stop telling men "Real, attractive men are all muscular and have thick beards."

The goal is to stop judging peoples' value as human beings based on their appearance. (Not saying that you're doing that, simply saying why talking about body image matters in a broad sense.)

WizardPowers posted...

Being strong feels good even with no definition

Good for your confidence

Good for self defense in the hyper small chance that ever comes in handy

Women like them more than being a bag of fat / skinny fat

I don't get your "only do things you absolutely NEED to" perspective. Most people don't need to do very much in their life. Doesn't mean those other things aren't good.

Like I said, if somebody wants that or enjoys it fine.
The problem comes from saying "every man should have X goal."

That's problematic because everybody has different desires and goals in life, and to set one as above all others and to say someone is lesser for not having that is problematic and toxic.

Saying "Everbody should strive to be healthy." Is absolutely fine, as that's just medically sound advice.
Having strong muscles (defined or not) is not inherently more healthy than simply being "average".
And not everyone can attain that "goal" for one reason or another.
That us also part of the problem being discussed here. Attributing muscles to attractiveness.
There are all sorts of attractive body types, not just "muscular guy".

Women have been fighting body image problems for decades in the west. For things other than "lean and trim" to be seen as attractive.

Addressing standards that affect mental health is important.

WizardPowers posted...

Having no definition is different than not having muscles

Having muscles but no definition is OK. That's what that dude was saying.

Why does a person working a 9-5 office job have any need of muscles, defined or not?
If by all accounts they're healthy, why does musculature matter?

And the premise of the topic is "body image"
If its not about visible muscles, why post at all?

WizardPowers posted...

Who is in shape and has 0 muscles?

Even super skinny cardio bunnies have muscles

Having visible musculature is not an indicator of health.

BlueTigerLion posted...

So changes do happen when people complain.

This isn't a change that needs to happen though, and wouldn't better the board.

CADE_FOSTER posted...

If they have to keep the women that ned cheated with I imagine it's gonna be very toxic for everyone around

That's not justification for firing people without cause.
They didn't violate their employment contract or the law, they shouldn't be fired.
Give them the option to transfer to another team.
Transfer her to another team.

They could even decide to leave.
However firing either of them without cause would be a shitheel thing to do, and potentially wrongful termination.

Umbreon posted...

I think following the ToU avoids 99% of problems.

Agreed.
Dont habitually break rules and you'll be fine.

CADE_FOSTER posted...

So that means her fiance and Ned's wife gotta go I would sue the try guys for that if it were me

Why would Ariel or Alex's fiance need to go?
What did they do that violated anything?

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You directly said a "healthy muscular" or "healthy athletic" body type is the goal.

Yet the only goal for a muscular body type is aesthetic in our society. If you're not a strongman/bodybuilder then the muscles are there for one of two purposes:
Your own enjoyment, or appearances.

And idealized musculature as a whole, is harmful.
Saying "I want this" or "I enjoy this" is one thing. The problem comes in saying " this should be everyone's ideal and goal"

CADE_FOSTER posted...

It makes for a very hostile workplace all four involved work for the try guys Ned's wife and Alex's fiance should be kept on they didn't do anything wrong

The problem is they can't fire Alex without facing litigation.
The hierarchy of things means Ned was her "direct supervisor" on paper.
If they fire her over this they open themselves up to multiple lawsuits.

Letting him go was 100% the correct thing to do.

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I have exactly zero muscular appearance. In fact I look entirely average.
Yet I work in a scrap yard where I regularly have to lift and move heavy objects.
Tractor trailer parts, massive wood blocks, steel bumpers, etc.

Western society has such a focus on musculature that its become the ideal. Yoy SHOULD look like this!
It's bad if you don't!

It all contributes to the unhealthy discourse around male body image.

Muscles don't guarantee a person is healthy.
Lack of Muscles isn't inherently unhealthy or undesirable.

I was on some stupid dosage of Prozac from 17-25.
Thinking of going back on lately.
I was on 100mg daily at one point.

NeoShadowhen posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/byefeliciayvr/status/1569476191232352258?cxt=HHwWhICz3fmR88crAAAA

I'll stand corrected there.
Thank you for (finally) providing any evidence at all to the claim.

I can see why some people wouldn't like the performance, but there is no nudity and she's dancing on an empty stage with no props or other performers.

This is yet another case of republicans going after drag shows because they're prudes.

The simple solution is: don't like it? Don't go.

Call a cab and ask for a van

Nope. My sister is 5 years older than me and I helped her with her homework.

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Muscles shouldn't be the goal was my main point.
If you're not working a labor job (which I do) and don't need Muscles, why are they the goal?
And a lot of strong men aren't "muscilar" in appearance, are they not the goal?
This is all part of the issue

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I disagree. The goal should be a healthy body, not an aesthetic one.
It's possible to be entirely healthy without being muscular.

So i watched the video on Twitter.
(There's no nudity, she's wearing pasties).

There is zero context provided, zero info showing this was an "all ages show" and only LibsofTicktock and random people claiming it's a child in the video.

Now could that be a kid? Yes.
It could also be an 18byear old with baby face.
It could also be a 40 year old woman.
What a shit topic to make when there is zero actual info there.

Even the promotion info shared by LibsofTicktock didn't claim it was an all ages show, just a performance at Vogue Theater.

If I'm wrong I'll admit it, but so far there's exactly zero to go on here.

Edit: in fact every single advertisement, post, and listing for the show has it labeled as "anything goes".
There is ZERO advertising or anything saying it's an "all ages show".

This is trolling st this point.

Hop103 posted...

This is not cancellable in the slightest, this is why I say we don't need cancel culture.

What about this was cancel culture?
You're a joke.

Very likely rest if the team wouldn't be able to be civil with him, as they all knew him and his wife.

Is this because i mentioned badgers in that topic about the hornet nest?

Certain birds.
Badgers.
Wolverines.

Any would have the inclination, ability, and fortitude to do it.

Could also have been some parasite that ripped it's way out.

Yep. Reporting for trolling I'd an absolute joke.
Posts that 100% exist solely to provoke a reaction and rule breaking get let go constantly.

sometimes posted...

to answer the question tho

my old account was bok_choi

Also, it wasn't a leap to assume you were an alt.
Made an topic "man, people weren't this hostile before!"
With an account with 8 karma.
Pretty obvious tbh

Nah.
The user base just simply isn't accepting of stupidity and bullshit anymore.

Anyone who doesn't see or recognize the issue of masculine body image in media is literally delusional.
Sure we shouldn't be idealizing being massively overweight, but this focus on masculinity = beard and muscles is unhealthy and harmful.

I enjoyed it. Very fun movie.

Sariana21 posted...

in general no one should tell you to keep a secret from your parents, not even the other parent.

This.
Obviously not all secrets are bad.
But if any person looks at you and says "don't tell your mom/dad/parenrs/adults" its generally a very bad thing and should definitely be told.

If we aren't counting food items? I can't recall.

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Are you at the very least talking to a counselor or getting therapy?
Or are you just entirely unmedicated and untreated?

If you're both unmedicated and untreated then I can't blame anyone who doesn't want to date you

We already had this topic.
Yawn, get new material

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You should discuss medication options with your doctor.
Going unmedicated with bipolar is NEVER a good option.

It's already been explained that TC is in fact not being reasonable, and is very spoiled and entitled.
He simply doesn't care and wants to "hurt" the dealership for not bending to his whims.

Effects that take away your ability to control the character.
Stun (monster hunter)
Fear
Charm/Terror(FFXIV)
Sleep

The moment my inputs to the controller no longer affect my character, I'm annoyed as all hell.

The problem with many many bipolar individuals is the lack of medication.
They either self medicate, decide the medicine "isn't working" and stop taking it, decide "I don't like who I am on the medicine" and stop, or flat out never take it.

As a bipolar individual I struggled with it a lot and now I'm getting married next year.

Kurt_Russel posted...

Didnt know it was a coffee place. I figured it was like Bob evans

It's kind of like if Dunkin was any good.
They used to be downright amazing until the changes started happening 5 or so years back.

Their coffee quality went way down when they switched beans.

Went down again when Burger King bought them out. Donuts are all delivered in frozen now instead of made fresh.

The US can't support or maintain the states they have, let's not discuss imperialistic intent right now.

IdiotMachine posted...

I feel justified now to just give them a low rating to the manufacturer once I get the minivan.

You are supremely entitled.
I would hate to have to deal with you on either a personal or professional level.