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Probably

Traci sounds good.

Tali-essen

Err, I mean, Thom Kallor

I would guess Rover, yet again.

Jessie

The most recognizable Youtuber remains Justin Bieber. For shame, people!

Parch!

I'll go with L-Ron

Seanchan posted...

I think you did a better job of getting at what I was feeling, that the series are more important to D+ than they are to the MCU. (FYI, not implying you feel the same.)

I do feel that the shows have, at least in 2022, declined in perceived value to the overall MCU. I'd argue differently about 2021's D+ fare, where I think they genuinely gave equally important material to film and television.

All right.

I'm going with the old reliables on this one, then.

The Dark Knight
Memento
The Departed
No Country for Old Men
V for Vendetta
Inglorious Basterds
Thank You for Smoking
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Catch Me If You Can
300

BetrayedTangy posted...

The problem with Phase 4 has just been how they've watered everything down. We've had so many opportunities for interesting stories and unique genres, but they all just end up feeling the same.

That's secretly the issue with Marvel films, all of the time. Everything always is just a little pre-chewed. Sometimes, that studio interference produces no real negative influence, and other times, the Marvel formula really steers something away from a unique or bold direction. The shows in particular on D+ really demonstrate how much they fall back on the formula to the detriment of the project, imo.

Definite "definitive of the 2000s". The best films, straight up? The films most indicative of 2000s thematic elements and style? The most culturally relevant films of the decade?

They matter in that they are a key piece (along with Star Wars) to keep people subscribed to D+ monthly, and it appears in that, they are a success and matter significantly.

In terms of the MCU value, introducing new characters is going to depend on who our next crop of Avengers are, but WandaVision played a crucial role to Dr. Strange, Loki has played a crucial role for Quantumania, Ms. Marvel is the second lead (as far as we know) in Captain Marvel 2, and I'm sure handing the shield to Falcon is going to be of immense importance. Now, you could argue "yeah, but how important are these stories to those?" and the answer is always, "to the studio, they've made it clear it's as important as they can manage it".

I'd say the TV lows are much lower than the film lows at this moment - poor production, atrocious writing that is slipping more and more with each project... Phase 4, judged by just the movies comes across as a setup phase, but with TV, it seems like Marvel is completely lost. However, I think that narrative comes out of 2022 alone, and if we look at 2021 by itself, we say there's direction to the grander universe that isn't there in 2022 (outside of Dr. Strange).

TotallyNotMI posted...

Trading for aerith auto

Aerith

Get Jessie

Jessie

Stargirl

Mike is far more valuable to the campaign than an item. He even played a rather crucial role in the party's final heist planning strategy!

I think we're probably looking at Brutale here? I would guess La Dama scores higher.

2 absolutely, then follow it with Brotherhood and Revelations if you enjoy Ezio. 4, Origins and Odyssey are also tremendous games.

Well, this narrows it down to 400... but I'll guess Deadshot here.

I'm also surprised Mike makes your list, but I really do love the little guy. He's such a great visual gag as well, especially atop Data's head.

Radio Tuner

JJ S1 was my favorite season, but DD overall was the best show. JJ S2 just tanked remarkably badly.

That's a surprising ranking, even though you have commented in the past how you did like those scenes. I think I just assumed he was a low 80s-ish type.

I'm going with Rover - as much as you like him, I don't think he can rank too highly.

Jessie

What a bizarre hill to die on. Where have you been with the other thousand bumped topics over the years?

Hmmm... maybe Guy Gardner?

Galadriel was absolute fast-forward material in that episode, but Elrond is phenomenal, Durin was a delight, and the other plotlines at least have enough key intrigue to pull me along. It's not House of the Dragon quality of writing, but it's definitely an event show, and I do enjoy it.

Yes, that is EXACTLY the point of the scene existing. Not that complicated.

And to lay the seeds for episode 2.

Ooooh, this clue feels like a trick, the sort of "Died but come back" sort. So I'm going with Kid Eternity.

L-Ron probably ranks higher than this, so maybe Toyman.

Russell Westbrook does it all the time

I think the most important aspect of Aquazon is that you never know exactly how much she means sincerely. It's delightfully manipulative.

Thom 'Thom' Kallor

There's a serious argument to be made that Wong is the MVP of Phase 4.

Currently #1 on the FBI's Most Wanted List, a Target employee who jailbroke the Abomination in order to take him to an underground fight club. The world is hunting him, his community has turned their back on him. Wong's only hope?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX3rv5HkuT4

Can I make it?

Finished the third episode, and while I enjoy the humor, I think the show has an issue of wanting to be Super Ally McBeal without doing the due diligence of slowly building a supporting cast with some heart and depth. It feels paper thin. I think, once again, we have a problem of rushing and cramming too much into too little space, and so when the priority goes to hitting the jokes and the quirkier beats over an established baseline with a little heart to it, well... the show just seems very two-dimensional to me.

Random side note: She-Hulk has a fantastic theme.

I will mention one other aspect of Teena, and that's the treatment she received from her mother. It's hard not to feel sympathy for how she was treated like a hurdle by her. And through it all, Teena is resilient, resolute in her dream to be a hero like her mentor, Cyborg. I just hope I do the character justice; I never want to play her for laughs or anything like that.

I'll go with Traci.

Aww... Jack is one of my favorites. He also has the coolest superhero costume ever.

Jessie

This list is shaping up to have a really strong overall pool.

I think I'm going to agree with Han - Deadshot would make a lot of sense as the last one to squeeze onto your list.

Lono is like a top tenner for me! So good. I can't wait for Miami!

I'll go with Maxine Baker.

Jessie

The most important aspect of Nightshade is that she's been reared in the darkness for so long that it's almost impossible to understand how she'll deal with things - she has an alien development, in some respects.

I'll guess Terrific.

Well it can't be Harry Matthews, who would be the obvious choice, but it might be Nightshade.

-_Saint_Boot_- posted...

It began with the forging of the great films.

Threads were given by JRR Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Rights were granted to Jackson, great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men, who above all else, desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged in secret a master flop. And into this show he poured his money, his greed and his will to dominate all film. One show to ruin them all.

Christ, this copypasta is so worn out.

I do love White Lightning. I admit, I think we just had an off-night on Manchester II, but it would be nice to get back and resolve things soon.

This might be... Cheshire?

Yeah, Ms. Marvel definitely reached new depths that Black Widow could only dream of.