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Well yeah, not even committing actual crimes deter kpop fans from supporting their biases, a swastika shirt sure wont, that was never in question, the group will be fine from that standpoint. They are making a huge push for the American market recently though so it'll be interesting to see if this effects that

Oof, American media has caught wind of the recent fashion choices, will be interesting to see how that plays out

KaZooo posted...

Yikes

Blind stylist decisions strikes again. Actually, I kinda have seen this in Asia in general. The way stateside things get distributed and picked up, most people don't really seem to know at all what a print suggests/says.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/2/AAHRm5AAETAq.jpg

Meanwhile the next day she posted personal pics of herself wearing this, can't pass this one off on the stage costume team

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/2/AAL5lQAAETR2.jpg

The whole thing will be recorded by someone and put up on bilibili/google drive/etc... in the following days anyway, happens with nearly every online concert/fanmeet

KainWind posted...

Unrelated, what exactly is a fan meeting? It seems like a concert plus some other stuff and seems unreasonably expensive to watch the livestream.

Yeah they are usually just a mini-concert with some extra talk segments/games/audience interaction. Will likely get some special/cover stages. I assume you're talking about LE SSERAFIM's in a few days in which case the 2nd day is also Sakura's birthday so there will certainly be something for that during the show and it's pretty likely they will officially announce the date of their comeback and maybe tease the song. And yes it's weirdly expensive to stream for some reason

Seems like what was supposed to be a packed April for girl groups is thinning out a bit with Aespa and now LE SSERAFIM actually confirming for May instead. Kep1er still drawing the short stick though as IVE just confirmed they are coming back on the exact same day as them

Damn, this SM corporate drama shit is getting interesting

Lmao, theres just a new twist to this LOONA stuff everyday it seems, they may be required to continue promoting as a group in Japan for the next 3 years or else face legal action, the one bonus is they'll actually get paid

https://twitter.com/gointosubbit/status/1621055946138210304

KaZooo posted...

And apparently Momoland has parted with MLD.

Wonder if the company changes its name again now or just live with the fact that they renamed themselves after one of their groups when they had one memey hit song then that group proceeded to fall off a cliff (partly due to bad management) and then jumped ship the moment their contracts were up

Yeah Teddy Riley did a bunch of stuff with SM, he did "The Boys" for SNSD as well

Looking like it'll be early April based on all the signs

Also just saw this but goddamn, HYBE pulling a certified music legend to work on new LE SSERAFIM music

https://twitter.com/nilerodgers/status/1620639496672002050

After 3 members of DBSK/TVXQ sued SM (which ended up with SM's old "slave contracts" being made illegal, DBSK was on 13 year contracts with horrible terms) and left the group/company to form JYJ, SM essentially had them blackballed from Korean tv/media for years. Likely did the same to Jessica after she was kicked out

BBC's trying to pull an SM

https://twitter.com/gointosubbit/status/1620707298074300416

Interesting, only 4 of the 9 loona members won their injunction to suspend contracts.

Yunjin released another song, and they actually added her first song and this one to real streaming services this time instead of just soundcloud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9trNIRzbPMc

Yeah first time, surprised it took so long but maybe they just were just putting off re-choreographing it for 5 members until now since they were pushing Blue Flame so hard in terms of b-sides from FEARLESS. But with the tour coming up later this year they need 5 member choreo for all their songs now. And damn, No Celestial was really made for live performances like this

Their first original Japanese song dropped digitally too, its being used as the theme song for a Japanese drama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-cLjWYZxtA&list=OLAK5uy_maOPBsBye6gbMrxGm9nfLJRkAD8nfybrA

YG is actually giving Jisoo a solo release...

lol. lmao

KaZooo posted...

Taeyang and Daesung out (though Taeyang is apparently going to Black Label as well.
Kang Dang Won (actor) is leaving

All iKon members just left today as well, YGE itself has very few actual acts left

I know its unlikely but let me have some hope for now

Looks like YG is finally about to debut their new girl group

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/3/AAL5lQAAECpf.jpg

And rumors are floating around about Blackpink transferring out of YG proper over to The Black Label

Im just hoping Teddy has zero involvement with the new group, man ran out of good ideas before Blackpink ever even debuted

Kara's was a fairly popular title track and it looks like f(x)'s was just a b-side.

Kara recently released a "Killing Voice" video where it was included as well

Is there another "Pretty Girl" that would be chosen for this type of thing other than Kara's

No other's come to mind, especially with the caliber of group's that were chosen to be covered

Rumored special stage from the SBS Gayo later

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/4/AAL5lQAAEBZq.jpg

Kep1er left out again it seems, they seem to only get included in these collab stages with the other 2021/2022 rookies when MNet themselves are hosting the show.

Also really strange to throw a BP song in there when the other 3 are the classic 2nd gen groups, surely a 2NE1 song would fit the theme better or even like After School/Miss A/f(x)/etc...

Was checking out some of the KBS Gayo stages and man, as much as I like Aespa and am glad to see them finally coming out to some of these year end events, when you actually see them in a lineup with all these other groups it becomes really apparent that most of the newer 4th gen girl groups really dice them up in terms of performance.

Also feel kinda sorry for Kep1er, only got to do 1 song compared to their contemporaries doing mutiple songs, and got excluded from every collab stage despite the majority of them featuring 4th gen girl group members. Even in the one where they decided to put together the younger members of LE SSERAFIM, New Jeans, NMIXX, and IVE, the organizers decided to double up on one group to get to 5 members instead of adding a Kep1er member to it

If they truly do want out, they probably wouldnt care that much, but if the report wasn't actually true it must suck for them

But I've seen many kpop fandoms over the last 15 years swearing up and down that they would boycott certain releases for a whole variety of reasons and they basically never have the willpower to actually go through with it. Especially now-a-days, fandoms are too obsessed with numbers and making sure their favourite groups don't look like they're flopping or falling off to not dump all their money into every new release. I'll believe this boycott when I see it

They're all still in the company, for now at least, so yes.

Though I never did see anything/anyone confirming that the 9 members actually filed injunctions to end their contracts

Red Velvet x Aespa collab

Id be excited if it wasnt a fucking Christmas song

Apparently she was posting normally on Bubble up to 3 days ago, even talking about practicing for/looking forward to the year end festivals, so lots of people are thinking she was actually kicked out for something

Don't know much about or follow NMIXX at all but a member just left out of nowhere

Bruh the camerawork at MAMA was somehow even worse than usual this year

damn, another disappointing Red Velvet title track, they really went off the rails post Bad Boy with the exception of Psycho

Lol apparently now 9 of the remaining 11 members of Loona have filed injunctions to have their exclusive contracts suspended.

Blockberry really shot themselves in the foot it seems

Huh, so LOONA's company just kicked out their most popular member (by far) and the only member any regular person in Korea could even recognize, and then accused her of being abusive towards staff as justification, thats certainly a play.

Just so happens its the same member who has sued the company over not getting paid for all her solo work and recently started her own agency to manage her own solo work.

These sudden accusations aren't fishy at all /s

KainWind posted...

I'm more of an outsider, so not commenting on anything other than stating personal opinion. I think NewJeans is fine and have potential, but I kinda forgot about them after their debut. I like them enough, but not to put on repeat. I still hate their name, but probably irrelevant. I didn't even realize they were HYBE, and I'm 100% on the Le Sserafim train this year.

What's going on with IVE? From my perspective (again, outsider) they've quietly dropped 3 incredible songs in the past year, but I don't know much about them.

Its not necessarily anything going on with IVE themselves but Kakao which is the parent company of their label that also happens to be one of if not the biggest conglomerates in Korea.

It was recently found that they were secretly behind an extremely popular entertainment news Facebook page (which has now been shut down) that was essentially being used to slander and spread very negative news and rumours about groups that are considered "rivals" of the groups under their company and make those trend/go viral. They specifically were targeting groups like LE SSERAFIM, New Jeans, Aespa, Idle, etc... in order to prop up IVE. The page was also violating copyright on photos it was using in their articles. They are currently being investigated by the Fair Trade Commision but considering their status as a company I dont expect they will actually face any real consequences exept in the court of public opinion. And there is also a lot of suspicion, and has been for years, about the rankings/performance of their groups on Melon (the biggest streaming platform in the country), which Kakao also owns

Anyway, you all seeing/following this stuff about Kakao?

Brother, I never even called into question the fact that they are popular and had a hugely successful debut, that much is obvious to anyone with eyes.

All I really called out were the statements:

"no one was thinking about them" which is just not the case as they had a both ton of pre-debut fans and a ton of anticipation from the public for years for being both from HYBE (for a long time people thought they would be the first "real" HYBE gg) and produced by Min Heejin (who is hugely popular with the public herself for her previous work), more anticipation than any rookie I can think of in recent memory. When the public saw they actually finally dropped they rushed to check them out, driven by that anticipation that already existed, and obviously liked what they heard, which again I've never debated.

"Hybe Boy is the most popular song of the year" which again I just pointed out that it isn't actually the case, not only just by numbers, but in actual impact. It was and is a very popular and well liked song, just not THE most popular this year

I like the group, they're #2 among the recent rookies for me, you seem to think I'm debating their success and I'm not, I was just pointing out some things in your original post that, to me, don't hold up based on what I see, its not some slight towards the group. Anyway, like you said, best leave it at that and move on

My brother in christ, I'm living in Korea, I see all this stuff first hand.

I get that youre clearly a huge fan. They are very successful already, what theyve actually done speaks for itself, you dont need to over/under exaggerate aspects to try and inflate that

I get you like the song and it was popular, again, thats undeniable, but Im telling you with no uncertainty as someone who lives in Korea, those artists I listed all released more popular songs here, Im not "just looking at charts". One of those 3 will win every Daesang this year, and those are based largely on impact.

And there is no hyperbole about the size of their pre-debut fandom, again, if you were on Korean sites in the last 3 years at all you'd know that. They werent just some group that came out of nowhere and amassed a fandom that buys 500k+ albums in the week, those fans were already around and waiting, they had 440k pre-orders. The fanwars between "Min Heejin GG" and "Sakura's GG" before anyone knew anything about either of the groups were huge.

Yes, their debut promotions were irregular but that ended up working more in their favour than it did against them as it was something people hadn't seen before and that piqued interest, maybe even moreso than if they had done it the traditional way. Min Heejin took an educated gamble with the marketing and it paid off. But the HYBE and Min Heejin factor are what allowed that to even work at the end of the day, an actual "out of nowhere" gg would never get any attention doing that

YamaChan posted...

BlackPink had two songs in the top 10, but NewJeans had 3.

Its a weird comparison because BP only released 2, if they had released more songs with more MV's they would've also charted them

YamaChan posted...

Nobody was thinking about NewJeans until they caught our attention out of nowhere. :)

Huh? From the moment Min Heejin went over to HYBE in 2019 kpop fans/the kpop world have been hotly anticipating and hyping up her upcoming girl group. The group had a huge following of hardcore stans for years before anyone knew even a single detail about them because of her involvement. The woman was responsible for some of the most beloved concepts/comebacks in girl group history

YamaChan posted...

And Hype Boy is straight up the most popular song of the year in my opinion.

Idle, IVE, and Lim Young Woong have all released songs were objectively more popular

paerarru posted...

what's up with Haruka?

The fact that they went out of their way to show her in the documentary probably means she'll be on I-land season 2

Also, MAMA just announced a full 32 member collab stage between LE SSERAFIM, New Jeans, NMIXX, Kep1er, and IVE at their show this year.

I just hope its not an underwhelming cover of Into the New World again like that TWICE, GFRIEND, IOI, and Red Velvet collab

wow, both LE SSERAFIM and IVE got the nod for Kouhaku this year.

That's some elite company, in terms of kpop groups that have ever gotten an invite, that they join (TVXQ, SNSD, Kara, and Twice)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccz123Jlflc

Was hoping for a little bit more than just a performance MV for what is essentially the theme song for their webtoon and maybe their best b-side but I'll take it, they're gonna promote it on music shows as well so thats cool

pogo_rabid posted...

He couldn't help but inject himself into the drama to farm clout, and took up a position against xqc and train because he had prior drama with them.

He only "inserted" himself into it after X and Train literally dragged him and Poki into it because those two have some weird hatred for Hasan and Poki (likely because they are two of the biggest voices against gambling) and this whole thing was a play by Train to get the attention off gambling after the Slicker story

__aCEr__ posted...

Ya know, if you're going to release such a serious statement, it would probably be a good idea to change your profile picture so that it's not a porno meme.

also, you know, spell the victims name right, stop downplaying it by calling it harassment instead of assault, etc...

Launch Roster was just revealed, 18 characters

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/5/AAL5lQAADrhD.jpg

Looks like Rashid, Akuma, Ed, and A.K.I will be DLC

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Is that a selling point nowadays?

After the state SFV launched in, it unironically is

They have the ability to set them manually but if they are lazy they can also just let YouTube do it automatically, and obviously whatever algorithm YouTube uses for that process results in a fuckton of ads getting jammed in.

NeonOctopus posted...

One of the games also has you act like a photographer and shoot photos of swimsuit models, but I forget which one.

That's Kiwami 2

A Way Out, its from the same people that made It Takes Two

Just tell him Asuka is better.

Misato too for good measure

Already announced they wont

https://www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-no-price-increase-for-xbox-series-x-s-sony-playstation