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Where does Cody go from here though? A title run like Roman's doesn't end anywhere outside Wrestlemania and WWE basically cut Cody's legs out from underneath him tonight.

One other interesting tidbit:

Cena at Wrestlemania each decade
2000s: 5-1
2010s: 5-3
2020s: 0-2

Wins in order: Big Show, JBL, HHH, HBK, Edge and Big Show, Batista, Rock, Wyatt, Rusev, Miz and Maryse
Losses in order: Orton, Miz, Rock, Taker, Fiend, Theory

The following active WWE wrestlers need only one belt to accomplish the Grand Slam:

Sheamus - IC
McIntyre - US
Strowman - US
Lashley - Tag
Big E - US
Ziggler - WWE or Universal
Shelton - WWE or Universal
Balor - Tag
Nakamura - WWE or Universal

Bliss - NXT

Tonight's accolades:

- Kevin Owens becomes a Grand Slam champion with tonight's title win.

- Rhea Ripley becomes the 5th Women's Grand Slam champion with tonight's title win

- Wrestlemania 39 Night 1 is the first Wrestlemania to have a tag match end the ppv since the first WM in 1985

- With both sets of brand tag team titles being defended in the closer, this makes the US title and Women's Tag Titles the only belts to not be defended in a Wrestlemania main event

It's been reduced to being on SD since 2021

Besides, as previous results have shown, it does nothing to your career. Mojo Rawley won it in 2017 and was still completely irrelevant while the guy he eliminated to win was WWE Champion less than 2 months later

ARMBAR winners in order
Cesaro
Big Show
Corbin
Mojo
Matt Hardy
Strowman
Jey Uso
Moss
Lashley

Lashley wins ARMBAR trophy as consolation prize for getting snubbed out of Wrestlemania.

(Though if they wanted to book Lashley vs Reed on Sunday, I'd be down).

Tim White getting posthumously inducted into HOF as the Warrior recipient.

CONFIRMED
Cody vs Reigns for Undisputed WWE Universal title
Ripley vs Charlotte for SD Women's title
Belair vs Asuka for Raw Women's title
Logan Paul vs Rollins
Lesnar vs Omos
Cena vs Theory for US title
Becky/Lita/Trish vs Damage CTRL
Edge vs Balor in Hell in a Cell
Gunther vs Sheamus vs McIntyre for IC title
Liv/Raquel vs Rousey/Baszler vs Natalya/Shotzi vs Chelsea/Sonya
Viking Raiders vs Alpha Academy vs Street Profits vs Braun and Ricochet
Sami/KO vs Usos for the Undisputed Tag titles
Dominik vs Rey

WWE Hall of Fame Class of 2023
Rey Mysterio
The Great Muta
Andy Kaufman
Stacy Keibler

Stacy Keibler joins the HOF Class of 2023

Didn't wanna say anything but Cage is still definitely active in both AEW and RoH

Well aware Sultan. Just thought they're wasting Lashley on that when he should honestly have a match at Mania

CONFIRMED
Cody vs Reigns for Undisputed WWE Universal title
Ripley vs Charlotte for SD Women's title
Belair vs Asuka for Raw Women's title
Logan Paul vs Rollins
Lesnar vs Omos
Cena vs Theory for US title
Becky/Lita/Trish vs Damage CTRL
Edge vs Balor in Hell in a Cell
Gunther vs Sheamus vs McIntyre for IC title
Liv/Raquel vs Rousey/Baszler vs Natalya/Shotzi vs one more team TBD
Viking Raiders vs Alpha Academy vs Street Profits vs Braun and Ricochet
Sami/KO vs Usos for the Undisputed Tag titles
Dominik vs Rey

WWE Hall of Fame Class of 2023
Rey Mysterio
The Great Muta
Andy Kaufman

With Lashley/Wyatt getting scrapped, no word on what happens with the All-Mighty at Wrestlemania.

The ARMBAR is next Friday on SD, with noteworthy entrants like Lashley, LA Knight, and Kross.

Men's fatal four way confirmed to be Vikings vs Street Profits vs Alpha Academy vs Ricochet and Braun

CONFIRMED
Cody vs Reigns for Undisputed WWE Universal title
Ripley vs Charlotte for SD Women's title
Belair vs Asuka for Raw Women's title
Logan Paul vs Rollins
Lesnar vs Omos
Cena vs Theory for US title
Becky/Lita/Trish vs Damage CTRL
Edge vs Balor in Hell in a Cell
Gunther vs Sheamus vs McIntyre for IC title
Liv/Raquel vs 3 other Women's tag teams in a fatal four way
Fatal four way men's tag match, all teams TBD

What is being hinted but not confirmed...
Sami/KO vs Usos
Dominik vs Rey
Lashley vs Wyatt

WWE Hall of Fame Class of 2023
Rey Mysterio
The Great Muta

One can only hope. The buildup for this has been terrible.

CONFIRMED
Cody vs Reigns for Undisputed WWE Universal title
Ripley vs Charlotte for SD Women's title
Belair vs Asuka for Raw Women's title
Logan Paul vs Rollins
Lesnar vs Omos
Cena vs Theory for US title
Becky/Lita/Trish vs Damage CTRL
Edge vs Balor in Hell in a Cell
Gunther vs Sheamus/McIntyre winner for IC title (thinking double pinfall leading to triple threat)

What is being hinted but not confirmed...
Sami/KO vs Usos
Dominik vs Rey
Lashley vs Wyatt

WWE Hall of Fame Class of 2023
Rey Mysterio
The Great Muta

Maniac64 posted...

So many crazy long runs happening at once in WWE.

Facts. Only Charlotte, Becky, Lita, and Theory's title wins were in the last 6 months.

Belair only needs 9 more weeks to pass Becky's near-400-day run as Raw Women's champ.

Usos now have the third longest Raw Tag Team reign in history.

Next week Gunther will pass Mr. Perfect and become the longest reigning IC champion in 35 years. By WrestleMania his reign will be in the top 5 longest IC runs.

Also the Usos have marked over 600 days in their current SD tag title run

Admittedly I missed Revolution but heard it was great

And then after Backlash, we get Saudimania in May with the first King of the Ring ppv in 21 years!

Most early kings had storied careers. Later ones, not so much. In order...

Bret Hart
Owen Hart
Mabel
Austin
HHH
Shamrock
Billy Gunn
Angle
Edge
Lesnar
Booker
Regal
Sheamus
Barrett
Corbin
Nakamura*
Woods

And Zelina Vega has been the only Queen of the Ring

* - Didn't win a tournament, only challenged Corbin for his crown

Well now with last night's events, Corbin wanted in MMM but lost to Gable quickly so who knows?

Updated WM39 card...

CONFIRMED
Cody vs Reigns
Ripley vs Charlotte
Belair vs Asuka
Logan Paul vs Rollins
Lesnar vs Omos
Cena vs Theory
Becky/Lita/Trish vs Damage CTRL
Gunther vs TBD (whoever wins a 5-man match this Friday, Drew vs Sheamus vs Kross vs Kofi vs Knight)

What is being hinted but not confirmed...
Sami/KO vs Usos
Edge vs Balor
Dominik vs Rey
Lashley vs Wyatt

TheRock1525 posted...

Maybe LA Knight can get two hired goons and we get the return of Big E (he's about to hit the one year mark from his neck injury which he said doctors would evaluate him about a possible return to the ring).

Viking Raiders, maybe?

That'd be something interesting to explain, but with Maximum Male Models involved with Alpha Academy and Hit Row not being over at all, that's the most reasonable route I can think of

Definitely looking like we're getting Gunther vs Drew vs Sheamus at WM

Possibly New Day vs LA Knight and a mystery partner too

What we officially know for WrestleMania 39...
Cody vs Reigns
Ripley vs Charlotte
Belair vs Asuka
Lesnar vs Omos

What is being hinted but not confirmed...
Logan Paul vs Rollins
Sami/KO vs Usos
Edge vs Balor
Dominik vs Rey
Cena vs Theory
Lashley vs Wyatt

And the rumored ones for now with little-to-no buildup at the moment...
Becky/Lita vs Rousey/Baszler. Possibly add Damage CTRL and Natalya/Nox for a fatal four-way
Drew vs Gunther (possibly a triple threat with these two and Sheamus)
Bailey vs Trish

The 2022 Wrestling Observer Awards have been released

Wrestler of the Year: Jon Moxley
Tag Team of the Year: FTR
Women's MVP of the Year: Syuri
Most Outstanding Wrestler of the Year: Will Ospreay
Rookie of the Year: Bron Breakker
Best Non Wrestler of the Year: Paul Heyman
Match of the Year: Kazuchika Okada vs Will Ospreay at the G1 Climax 32
Worst Match of the Year: Vince McMahon vs Pat McAfee at WrestleMania 38
Feud of the Year: FTR vs The Briscoes
Worst Feud of the Year: The Miz vs Dexter Lumis
Best Brawler: Jon Moxley
Technical Wrestler of the Year: Bryan Danielson
High Flyer of the Year: El Hijo Del Vikingo
Best Box Office Draw: Roman Reigns
Gimmick of the Year: Sami Zayn Honorary Uce
Worst Gimmick of the Year: The Maximum Male Models
Most Improved Wrestler of the Year: The Acclaimed
Most Underrated Wrestler of the Year: Konosuke Takeshita
Most Overrated Wrestler of the Year: Ronda Rousey
Best Weekly Show of the Year: Dynamite
Worst Weekly Show of the Year: Raw
Best Major Show of the Year: The Forbidden Door
Worst Major Show of the Year: Royal Rumble
Move of the Year: Will Ospreay's Hidden Blade
Announcer of the Year: Kevin Kelly
Worst Announcer of the Year: Corey Graves
Booker of the Year: Tony Khan
Promoter of the Year: Tony Khan
Best On Interviews: MJF
Most Disgusting Promotiontal Tactic of the Year: Vince McMahon appears after sexual misconduct allegations
Documentary of the Year: Tales from the Territories

I'm not saying anything is a lock unless it's officially on the card, and that's only 3 matches.

Lashley vs Lesnar SHOULD HAVE been a lock, but for some reason they wanna waste Lesnar on Omos

After this week, here's the Wrestlemania discussion..

What we officially know for WrestleMania 39...
Cody vs Reigns
Ripley vs Charlotte
Belair vs Asuka

What is being hinted but not confirmed...
Logan Paul vs Rollins
Lesnar vs Omos
Sami/KO vs Usos
Edge vs Balor
Dominik vs Rey

And the rumored ones for now with little-to-no buildup at the moment...
Lashley vs Wyatt
Becky/Lita vs Rousey/Baszler (if Becky/Lita win the Women's tag belts next week). Possibly add Damage CTRL and Natalya/Nox for a fatal four-way
Cena vs Theory
Drew vs Gunther

Also kinda surprised that no HOF inductees have been announced yet. Rumor going around is Batista may headline this year's class.

Edge: *claims he's done with The Judgment Day*

*loses US title match because of The Judgment Day 30 minutes later*

Since we're on a new page, updates on a few "titles" with details...

WWE's The Man: Roman Reigns has held this title since Survivor Series 2020, the longest since we started this in 2008. This reign has since combined the lineages of both the original title lineage that began in 2008 with Shawn Michaels and the second lineage that began with John Cena in 2011.

WWE's The Man - Women's Division: Charlotte Flair's had this title since December 2022

AEW's The Man: This title originally began in TNA with Ric Flair's final singles loss to Sting in 2011. It eventually made its way to AEW in Fall 2020. Current champion is CM Punk since All Out.

On the subject of actual championships...
- At 904 days, Roman's current Universal title run is the 5th longest world title run in WWE history
- In 11 days, Gunther can pass The Rock to become the longest reigning IC champion in the last 30 years
- Bianca Belair needs 84 days to pass Becky Lynch for longest Raw Women's reign
- The Usos' 582-day run as SD Tag Champs is nearly the longest across all North American promotions, with only one NWA tag team having a tag title reign longer than them (777 days, The Skullkrushers)

ffmasterjose posted...

What did you guys think of Elimination Chamber? I thought it was pretty meh except for the last 2 matches but my buddy thought it was the best show under the HHH creative banner.

Main event and US title chamber were solid, but otherwise it seemed like I didn't miss anything.

Clash at the Castle has been the best show under HHH so far

Holy shit, I got every winner predicted correctly and nearly how each match ended correctly too

Wrestlemania 39 card
Roman Reigns vs Cody Rhodes for the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship
Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley for the SmackDown Women's Championship
Bianca Belair vs Asuka for the Raw Women's Championship

Still thinking we're getting Owens/Zayn vs Usos for the belts. Logan vs Rollins is definitely happening, as is a Lesnar/Lashley rematch with no holds barred.

2 days away from the ppv and there's only five matches. Given two of them are Chambers and should easily make for an hour of time, we're probably just getting one more match added. Again, probably McIntyre/Sheamus vs Raiders.

Thinking that Theory retains the US title, giving him credibility going into Mania. Seth probably gets distracted by Logan Paul to set up that Mania match and Theory takes advantage. I don't see anyone else being the final two in the Chamber.

Going on a limb and picking Asuka to win the other chamber for the shot at Belair.

Edge and Beth win their match after Rey helps out, setting up Rey vs Dominik at Mania.

Lashley beats Brock after Hurt Business reunite, making it 4 on 1 (5 if Omos is still around) and the odds too much for Brock to handle. Rematch at Mania.

Reigns beats Zayn to close the night.

Steiner posted...

ZSig can I get an update on custody of Dom and any other fake titles?

Reigns has had possession of The Man AND Dominic's custody titles since November 2020

CM Punk is currently rocking the version of The Man that started with Flair's final loss in 2011

I think Charlotte is the female edition Man champion with that win over Rousey in December

Gunther officially the longest reigning IC champion of the 21st century

If he's still champ by WrestleMania, it'll be 295 days, the 5th longest of all time and the longest since Honky Tonk Man's record setting reign

Elimination Chamber so far...
Reigns vs Zayn for the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship
Austin Theory vs Rollins vs Gargano vs Reed vs Ford vs Priest for the United States Championship
Asuka vs Morgan vs Cross vs Rodriguez vs Natalya vs Carmella for a shot at the Raw Women's Championship at WrestleMania 39
Edge/Phoenix vs Balor/Ripley

Possibly adding Brock vs Lashley, but I'd rather see it at Wrestlemania

Update...

Elimination Chamber so far...
Reigns vs Zayn for the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship
Austin Theory vs Rollins vs Gargano vs Reed vs (Elias OR Ford) vs (Priest OR Dawkins) for the United States Championship
Asuka vs Morgan vs Cross vs Rodriguez vs Natalya vs (Carmella, Mia Yim, LeRae, OR Niven) for a shot at the Raw Women's Championship at WrestleMania 39

I dunno... MAYBE we get Edge, Rey, and Phoenix vs Judgment Day (Balor, Priest, Ripley) since Ripley will be occupied at Mania. Possibly McIntyre/Sheamus vs Viking Raiders to kill time

WrestleMania 39 so far...
Roman Reigns vs Cody Rhodes for the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship
Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley for the SmackDown Women's Championship

Not 100% certain what's getting added to EC card, but pretty certain we're getting the following at Mania...

Lesnar vs Lashley
Rey vs Dominik
Rollins vs Logan (maybe)

Elimination Chamber so far...
Austin Theory vs Rollins vs Gargano vs Reed vs (Elias OR Ford) vs (Priest OR Dawkins) for the United States Championship
Asuka vs Morgan vs Cross vs Rodriguez vs (Carmella, Mia Yim, LeRae, OR Niven) vs TBD for a shot at the Raw Women's Championship at WrestleMania 39

WrestleMania 39 so far...
Roman Reigns vs Cody Rhodes for the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship
Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley for the SmackDown Women's Championship

Pretty simple card tonight

Royal Rumble 2023
Men's Rumble
Women's Rumble
Reigns vs Owens for the Undisputed WWE Universal title
Belair vs Bliss for the Raw Women's title
Wyatt vs Knight in a Pitch Black match

NoFInBadger posted...

Bianca Belair's mic skills are deplorable.

Couldn't watch her promo with Charlotte for more than 3 seconds.

I know right? No one wants to watch Charlotte for more than 3 seconds

2015 had the Reigns push, Bryan eliminated in under 8 minutes early into the match, plus Big Show and Kane being booked like mythological gods this late in their career. Also noteworthy was fans chanting for Rusev despite him being a full blown anti-American heel, THAT'S how much Roman was hated back then.

99 was a mess with more action happening outside the ring than there was inside it. Wrestlecrap's induction of this Rumble was spot on.

2012 was the year where literally anyone could sign up for it. Mick Foley's final match, Ricardo Rodriguez, Kharma's only WWE match, all three commentators...

From my experience watching them...

Classics: 1992, 2001

Great: 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007

Good: 2002, 2008, 2010, 2018, 2018W, 2019W, 2020, 2021W

Mostly forgettable, might have an excellent moment or two during the event, but nothing else: 1997, 1998, 2000, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2022W

Legit rough: 1995, 2012, 2014, 2022

Bad: 2015

Dumpster fire: 1999

Haven't watched: 88-94, 96

ffmasterjose posted...

Lol I expected Jericho or Miz in the top since they had so many reigns between them, sheesh.

Miz's longest is his 5th reign at 188 days, the 19th longest of all time.

Jericho's longest is only 111 days (his 8th), which sits at #39

Gunther currently has the 9th longest run as Intercontinental champion, clocking in at 218 days in his single reign.

The 8 runs longer than his?

1) Honky Tonk Man - 454 days
2) Randy Savage - 414 days
3) Greg Valentine - 285 days
4) Mr. Perfect (2nd reign) - 280 days
5) The Rock (2nd reign) - 264 days
6) Shelton Benjamin - 244 days
7) Cody Rhodes - 234 days
8) Tito Santana - 226 days

Finally updated my mass spreadsheet of total days across all federations as world champion, which again features the combined amounts for the following world titles...

WWE, Universal, WCW, NWA, WHC (WWE), AEW, IWGP, IWGP World, ROH, Impact, and AWA

...out of 212 total world champions, Roman Reigns' double-belt run has him at #16 on the all-time list. In order, from first to 15th, are the only ones ahead of Reigns...

Verne Gagne
Sammartino
Flair
Thesz
Hogan
Bockwinkel
Lesnar
Backlund
Aldis
Okada
Harley Race
Dory Funk Jr.
Severn
Cena
Tanahashi

By the time WrestleMania comes around, Reigns will have passed Tanahashi and Cena.

FFDragon posted...

2023 is already locked in with the recent Vince shenanigans

Doubtful. Only backstage thing to really win was Vince's "Brass Rings" comment and it was only considered a tie because vote-stuffers were caught in 2014.

That said, Ric Flair's Last Match will be the first time something outside WWE, Impact, or WCW wins this award

Strife2 posted...

Not gonna lie: this is a kind of weak year for a standout nominee. All of the weird bad shit happened outside the ring.

This is very true. I voted for Models, knowing it had no shot at winning. But looking into Flair's last match, there's reasons why it deserves this.

Winners since 2000...
David Arquette as World Champion
The InVasion
Katie Vick
Al Wilson
Diva Search 2004
JR's Sad Saga
Exploitation of Eddie Guerrero
Hornswoggle as Vince's son
Mike Adamle
Hornswoggle vs Chavo
Raw vs Impact Monday Night War
Michael Cole
Claire Lynch angle
Heel Dixie Carter
The Bella Twins 2014 angle (tie)
Vince's "Brass Rings" quote on a podcast (tie)
The Dolph, Lana, Rusev, Summer affair
Wrestlemania 32
Jinder Mahal as WWE Champion
Crown Jewel 2018
Fiend vs Rollins in the Cell
Retribution
NXT 2.0

Wrestlecrap has their nominees up for 2022's [Gobbledy] ****er of the Year

Barbed Wire Everywhere Shark Cage Match
Dexter Lumis and Miz angle
Lacey Evans throughout 2022
Maximum Male Models
The Murder of Eric Young
Ric Flair's Last Match
2022 Royal Rumble
Wardlow's 20-on-1 match
Vince McMahon vs Pat McAfee
Kip Sabian: Man in the Box

This one's a lock after seeing the poll results. Flair's last match has 52% of all votes. Second place is the Rumble with 13%

Wow... Charlotte wins the SD Women's title on the final show of the year, making her a 14-time WWE Women's Champion, and now marks 9 consecutive years where she's won a championship in WWE

RIP Don West

411's Year End Awards should be coming up unless another award hiatus occurs. While quality has declined since Csonka's passing, they're still my go to for reading weekly show results

History of 411's Wrestler of the Year:
2006 - Samoa Joe
2007 - John Cena
2008 - Chris Jericho
2009 - CM Punk
2010 - Randy Orton
2011 - CM Punk
2012 - Austin Aries
2013 - Bryan Danielson
2014 - AJ Styles
2015 - AJ Styles
2016 - AJ Styles
2017 - Kazuchika Okada
No awards issued in 2018-19
2020 - Jon Moxley
2021 - Bryan Danielson

Daredevil alone makes Netflix Marvel > D+ Marvel, but Punisher is a decent addition as well.