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Is it really a TLOU2 topic without someone complaining about "woke" though?

Well I'm glad you enjoyed it and I really don't want to argue with you about it because I feel like the only thing that might do is make you like the story less XD

So I'll just say I disagree.

Next I'll be suggesting that the pope is Catholic

Meaninglessly badly written melodrama without thought or effort sells a ton

yea, I agree that it's a GOAT game.

it took a lot of risks with its narrative, and I feel it was very rewarding as a result; even more so than the original, which I also loved.

I can understand not enjoying it for a number of reasons, but some of the criticisms were based on people not paying attention to some of the story, like how Abby, Joel, and Tommy ran into each other, or other things they might have forgotten from the original that make them feel some of Joel's actions were out of character.

I loved it.

The main problem my wife had with it is that you play as a fairly unlikeable character for half the run time and while yes, excellent story telling can follow people who are not likeable, it does make it hard for some people to get into it if they aren't really "rooting for anyone" anymore.

Lmao X is a 6 at best. But I guess throwing up boobs on screen is enough for the average moviegoer.

Never said it was never done before but the level of care and detail that went into making the movie is insane. Especially from indie filmmakers within like a 30-40 day shoot with extremely limited resources. It isn't comparable to run of the mill blockbusters. I get hating on good things just cuz but the movie is objectively a net positive for indie filmmaking.

X was filled with quips and dumb goofy shit and you liked that lol

Haven't seen any of those

Not sure why you don't like Villenueve, but he is easily one of the best directors today who gets a large budget to play with.

Tbh EEAAO is basically the greatest love letter to cinema that's happened in a long time. There were so many intricate decisions made in that movie from lens choices to format shifts (from an indie team with an incredibly low budget and hardly any know how) that even if you didnt like the story (how the fuck couldnt you though) you should still be able to appreciate the art. That movie will pave the way for the future of indie films whether you like it or not.

I'm still getting the sense that you don't actually enjoy movies lol

That "annoying" movie is 97% Rotten Tomatoes, 83 on Metacritic and 8.9 on IMDB. Obviously, no one has to agree with everything that has across the board critical and audience acclaim, but you have to realize when you are the outlier.

Fuck, yeah! Not me but I agree.

And whether you like them personally or not, this is a true statement

"The big gloom" is just a term for the lowest point of the character's story. And with that definition how many acts do you think a movie like Terminator 2 has? Lol

Wut. It very clearly defines the act by their names. And the "1a, 1b" aren't individual acts but beats that make up an act. An act only changes after a significant plot point that drives the story into the next act. And "confrontations" is implied and he goes over how the middle act is built of confrontations that ultimately lead to the final confrontation that will inevitably lead into the climax. An individual confrontation is not indicative of an act. If that were the case some movies would be like 60 acts long which is absurd lol

And the three act structure is the most used, if not the only used, screenplay format. You'd be hard pressed to find a movie that doesn't use the three act structure.

He strikes me either as a master baiter (see my earlier comment about chucking C4 into the pond) or a person who watches Inland Empire/Koyaanisqatsi/Tree of Life tier stuff and literally nothing else. Which I suppose the latter falls under your description, I guess.

Oh, and agreed that Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent was great. I was kinda hoping he'd also bring the axe thing he made in Mandy along with the two guns to the final showdown, but I knew it wouldn't happen. Legit surprised they even mentioned Mandy, thought any mentions of his movies would be limited to his earlier works.

So you are one of those critics who claims to love movies but doesn't actually like hardly anything. Got it.

Just saw the Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. Quite enjoyable. While certainly meta, it wasn't as batshit crazy as I expected. Felt more like a love letter to the movies of the 80s and 90s before everything had to be a big event to get theater attention.

Tbh I highly recommend you read Syd Field's books because the three act structure is a lot more malleable than you're making it seem. For instance, every single one of Tarantino's films fit the three act structure to a T and he delves into that in his books.

A story told in multiple chapters or with a non-linear narrative doesn't really break the three act structure, and that's one of the reasons why people adhere to it. It's literally just beginning, middle and end. But the beginning, middle and end individually can have a ton involved. I've yet to see Drive My Car but I bet it follows the three act structure. It's honestly really hard to find a movie that doesn't outside of French New Wave or eastern euro prop films. Even "5 act structure" stories are just 3 act structure films for the most part lol

This is a good analysis and I agree. I also really enjoyed Drive My Car and it was one of my favorite films of last year. Really surprised you didn't like Everything Everywhere All at Once.

I mostly agree here as well, especially being secure in your own taste regardless of consensus. But you are going the condescending route again. Why do you feel the need to do this?

Also, I DO like La La Land quite a bit even if I know it has some issues.

Genuinely curious how the three act structure is stupid when like the vast majority of films use it lol

Because you respect it as part of the medium but at the same time it doesn't appeal to your personal taste? Like to use an example, La La Land is a really good movie, but since it takes a whole lot for a musical to win me over, I garnered a lot less enjoyment out of it than a whole load of people, but at the same time I know that my dislike of musicals doesn't mean it's a s*** movie. It's good, but I don't like musicals. Another example when I recommended I Saw The Devil to my mother since it's an outstanding movie and she wanted a thriller recommendation, she acknowledged on several different times when we talk about movies how good and well put together it was, but at the same time she couldn't deal with a lot of the violence in it and how it's depressing as f*** so she simultaneously dislikes it. Might as well ask the reverse, where why one says s***ty movies like Fateful Findings, Birdemic, or Wish Upon are bad if they end up having an absolute blast watching them.

People that say this just scream "yeah I took film appreciation in college, how can you tell" and it sets the tone for the rest of the list of opinions

So I see you can't respond to a proper argument and can only look down on people who don't actually challenge you. Swell guy.

TC - why did you summon this guy?

First, I like the MCU/superhero movies. However, I don't like how much it has taken over the industry. But this is a chicken and the egg thing. Mid budget movies were already struggling to do well, and it may be that big franchise movies is all that is keeping the theaters alive. The issue is more about streaming and TV shows than superhero movies. People who used to get their mid budget comedies, romcoms, political thrillers, courtroom drama, etc fix at the theater now get it at home via streaming. And TV shows have gotten much better and attracted much stronger stars and these shows have taken the place of many of those genre films.

I hate it. I grew up on a mix of mid budget and blockbuster movies and that mix is dying. People only get out to the theater for an event now. For spectacle. Which is why I say that superhero and big franchise movies might be the saving grace for theaters now, even if I am sure they contributed to the issue (but less than streaming and TV shows).

Finally, if you haven't seen Everything Everywhere All at Once yet, you are part of the issue. If you have then good. Everyone should see it. Also, go see The Northman and The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent later this month. We need to show the industry that peole will see original films.

If/when you respond, please try to communicate like a human being without all the condescension.

BTW, I liked Sonic 2 :)

Oh no, there definitely are, but the second you start shutting down different viewpoints, being unjustifiably condescending, and...

...being deliberately obtuse, you dont deserve an actual discussion.

IMO.

It's really simple, actually.

He stated opinions as facts.

You automatically become wrong when you do that.

Any right to be taken seriously goes right out the window, too.

I've seen very few posts in my time that manage to be as incorrect as #14.

Your lack of care for animation is on par with the Oscars

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