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Do you remember Ben, when you said there was no scum equity in Ctes claiming Jack instead of sitting on his Vig claim, and I showed that was flawed because he very much had scum equity in claiming something that allowed him to move? How he hid the fact that he was the one who bus drove JC's scan when we argued about it for multiple days straight and ignored mentioning anything about it when Ulti was saying, "There's no way Bus Driver and my role exist in this game together" but was content to sit there and say nothing? How there was only one kill N1 and we just have to assume that Ulti blocked the scum kill, even though there is definitely scum equity in scum Ctes to try and set himself up in a semi-cleared status after scum's star player Chris was lynched D1?

No. Wrong answer. Your accusation wasn't that I didn't do anything to look obv town. You said "you have done nothing so that no one has anything to look back and say is suss" The exact OPPOSITE assertion. Completely two different statements that you are now backing out of because you realize you overstepped.

I literally went over why I thought Ctes was scum when I was arguing with you over how you were town clearing Ctes with bad reasoning. I really hope this is you being intentionally dense, or else you may need your short term memory checked.

I've literally already answered this, I don't know why you keep asking questions that could be answered by going back two pages.

"and" is the important word there.

Do you really want to stand by the argument that I haven't done anything this game? Is that the game we're going to play?

I would be willing to put money down that I have made more posts with unique arguments against MULTIPLE different people than anyone else in this game, because I've been genuinely trying to pressure people and scum hunt.

I pushed Wallz for multiple days in a row, and then it turned out he was town. Surely you could go back and see if my scum hunting there was problematic or disingenuous or not, no? Or would you go back and find that I was just loud wrong town?

This accusation that I haven't done enough to look sus is absolutely disgusting, and yet ANOTHER example of you intentionally lying to set up your false narrative.

Plus he didn't get lynched last night, so that's a good sign he's scum.

No, people think you are scum because of your claims and the night actions.

People include me on scum teams because they have literally no other options and have to.

WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

I said everyone but you.
So you trust Sultan is town, but not his read of the game. Seems like you're trying to butter up Sultan to join your lynch and not actually considering his opinions. Is he nothing but a tool to you!?!?

(this post is intentionally dramatic to mimic the way Ben has been making appeals to Sultan previously in the game.)

You think I remember the content of a single post from last game that I was very clearly disregarding because it was talking about the wrong thing?

Let's vote Ctes then. Everyone except Ben seems to think Ctes is likely part of the scum team due to setup and PoE. Sultan who most people seem to lean town on think Ctes is scum. And we don't have this dichotomy of drawn lines in the sand of Han versus Ben.

If Han versus Ben is being set up as a 50/50, then doesn't seem like a lot of people are sure of Ctes being a likely party to either? I think scum is banking on trying to make it Ben vs Han, which makes me want to take the third option. Either scum Ben is confident he can persuade Sultan to join his side and lynch Han. Or Han thinks he's already bought me and Lea, and so just needs to convince JC to stay with us.

Let's throw aside the battle lines and lynch our common enemy.

Plus he didn't get lynched last night, so that's a good sign he's scum.

Paper Mario Mafia Topic 7

JC Says

HAN REPLIES

I didn't mean his actual profile, just the stamps of his posts. That is in-game information, and why I'm okay with talking about it.

A Scumben could be fed info on Scumboard. It's a possibility. But I also am okay discounting the time portion here, I just brought it up because it was where I was reading at the time.

I thought you said you beat yakuza?

I just said there is a post game dungeon I didn't know about.

I didn't expect mafia crime dragon quest ok this is too good.

My bad i got excited that I caught a scum slip to exsplain inactivity lol

Catching Chris is like catching a Shark. Very hard but would be awesome.

To be fair I am starting to get a bit of the God Father coming our if you. Pushing your agenda. But not as strong as other games when you were scum and I should have kept pushing the peddle.

The Chris fear around these parts is real

How do both of you clear Sultan that hard again

This is literally something you're inventing to try to make me look bad.

Ben/Ctes
Ben/Ctes/Dumey
Ben/Ctes/Lea
Ben/Dumey
Ben/Lea

I suppose Ben/Ctes/JC is also on the table.

I don't believe JC can be Scum while Ctes is Town, so that's removed.

Anyway, 6 teams, you're welcome.

Are you trying to use a fact that I willingly volunteered this game as some sort of "aha gotcha"?

Yes, if timestamps were banned, they should be.
Doesn't mean I won't use the tools available that aren't banned. Especially since I was bored af and wanted to figure something out.

Again, you have changed the meaning of logic to fit a narrative you are pushing.

I mean, now that Han thinks Sultan and Ctes are town I would like his help figuring out an updated scum team. Even if i have to be on it.

maybe I'm dumb, but I don't understand this. Isn't an Indy that had to win with Town just Town?

no?

because crescent can only get one scan off on scum before they realize its her, and with a 3 man team theres a 1/3 chance of hitting GF.

crescent was not a full cop in the sense that she couldnt take down the scumteam solo with her scans

but like, miller cop doesnt even scream conspiracy theories

like its so useless that it doesnt even make sense as a good red herring

idk Im grasping at straws

It's disingenuous of you to say "it's either Ctes/JC/Ben or Dumey/Han/Lea" and act like that's granted fact.

And it's manipulative of you to appeal to Sultan with that sort of disingenuous information.

Didn't I make the crying remarks about if Han/JC/Sultan were the scum team? Tsk, tsk, another lie from Ben!
Though I would also probably shed a very manly tear if Lea betrayed me too, so you're not wrong.

Oh shit, did I miss the coordinated group strike?!?

Ben, I realize that me being offline all night means that you don't feel differently about me at all. But if you were to lynch me and I flipped town, and the game magically wasn't over somehow, would that paint CTes in a bad light for you that he wasn't lynched last night?

You seem to only be viewing this from the perspective of "the whole scum team was offline," and I haven't seen one mention of, "maybe Ctes wasn't hammered because he's scum."

You've admitted I'm a distant third in your scum team due to PoE, I would expect you to at least consider the idea.

Question

is town drunk a role that has existed with a scum redirector/town lazy tracker before?

i mean, i dont even know if theres even town lazy tracker precedent for my role, but Im curious if sultans has existed with a redirector around before

And for all of your whinging Ben, I DID prove that Scum isn't some combo of you, me, Lea, JC.

"Why would Han do this" there you go