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Bondrewd getting destroyed by Made in Abyss SFF

i used to shave and brush my teeth at the same time but i do that separately now after forgetting which hand was which

Are we contending that FF1 is better than FF13? When's the last time y'all played FF1? Because that game's rough.

Like fish

hombad46 posted...

Whether or not you agree it's a horror game, the idea that people are secretive about it because it is a horror game is laughable.

That's true, I was being a snarky Clarkie. The actual thing you're supposed to infer is that the game is meta but a little coy about it at first.

You could probably infer it from the way no one would tell you anything about it, that's a sure sign of a horror game lol

I'm glad you're enjoying it :D

Yuna

She should have received at least 1 black magic sphere which you can use to cast Firaga which is a rank 3 ability, like attacking. She has even faster moves like protect and shell that are rank 2 I believe. Also she can use a white magic sphere to learn haste. So yuna should light donkey kong on fire and then summon an aeon to kill him

episode?

paperwarior posted...

And I suppose the same happens to the ones he pierces, cuts, crushes, burns, freezes, explodes, etc

yeah

nah that wasn't random, that happened for a reason. all the truly random stuff happens off-screen. like what did that drunk dude eat for breakfast on november 12th? no one knows.

All y'all people voting yeti are forgetting one thing: fairies win by default, because they don't exist. A yeti might be able to tank a bullet, and 10 zombies can surround you. What can fairies do? Have cartoons made about them?

In light of the fact that Britney Spears basically had to do whatever her handlers said, it's really uncomfortable to listen to her music when it's full of stuff like this:

I'm a slave for you
I cannot hold it, I cannot control it
I'm a slave for you
I won't deny it, I'm not trying to hide it
Baby, don't you wanna dance upon me? (male voice: I just wanna dance next to you)
To another time and place
Oh, baby, don't you wanna dance up on me? (MV: Are you ready?)
Leave behind my name and age (MV: let's go)

Fortunately, Taylor Swift's music is more interesting anyway.

Joelypoely posted...

https://youtu.be/SYWZ_90BZ2Y

Is this an LLM

3 seconds might be yeah

3 seconds is a lot longer than you think. I feel like I'm pretty much constantly looking at my mirrors unless I'm very confident that the situation isn't changing

Because of how it's structured, Duolingo is absolutely a game. That's not a bad thing; Khan Academy is a game and I think it's great. I don't know how good of an educational tool Duolingo is because I've only barely used it, but "game" is the kind of thing that it is.

colliding posted...

Tidus is well written but pretty unlikeable

I like Tidus a lot, he's a super-popular star athlete and he's actually a nice guy with social skills. And he uses them in combat, he gets Cheer and all the "Talk" trigger commands during boss fights.

I hate that Rikku quadruples in HP during her first few levelups lmao

SeabassDebeste posted...

probably not a hot take, but the overarching mystery in every DR game is terrible. i accept it as a plot driver to get the class trials to happen, but every time the truth is revealed, it's awful and drags on hours and hours past its welcome.

Yeah I agree with this. Wish they were just competing for a cash prize or something.

most_games_r_ok posted...

No way it's great and completely over the top. Especially for this trailer

I phrased my critique badly. The problem is that the narrator doesn't seem to know what English speakers sound like when we're excited. I like the concept of an obviously-Japanese narrator, but we're supposed to be feeding off the energy of this voice. He's putting his emphases in the wrong places and doesn't seem to know which words to be excited about. He's obviously reading off a page. It doesn't feel like your ESL friend is getting hype in an American arcade, it feels like you're watching an anime for Japanese speakers.

Very curious about Pennsylvania chicken pot pie and Pennsylvania chicken and waffles now

Also do y'all say yinz? Or something else?

I have no real opinion on Pennsylvania because i haven't done the reading, sorry

MacArrowny posted...

only someone who hasn't played UDG and watched the anime would say this...

They missed the boat by making DR2 identical to the first, and then the third main game identical to the first 2, and giving the third identical game a name that sounds like "version 3"

Now I'm imagining a series where every numbered entry is *extremely* different

Episode 1 is a shooter, episode 2 is a movie, episode 3 is a board game...

Honestly I think that could've been more fun

I'm worried about the quality of the animation in this game. Like the animation curves need some work? Does that make sense? Also the sound doesn't fit very well.

This is the least bad trailer so far so it's possible they agree with me and are actively working on fixing it but I'm not crazy right?

Also holy moly please just pay a native English speaker $50 to voice your English-language trailer

I wanna be excited for Tekken 8 but I'm worried D:

MacArrowny posted...

Yeah, you can't really comment if you don't know the content outside of the main 3 games.

My hot take is that since the first 2 games were practically identical, you shouldn't have to watch animes and play shooters to answer basic questions like "did the story even happen." Like if Rogue One made no sense unless you played a video game, that would be a mistake. DR2 could've been a shooter or an anime but it was DR1 again. This conveys that DR1-likes are core to the series

I mean I guess the fact that it's called "Danganronpa 3" should clue you in, but i don't want to watch an anime, i want to play DR1-likes

Kenri posted...

i have other friends. but they don't play smash bros.

all of a sudden this makes sense

foolm0r0n posted...

Evrae is such a god damn brilliant fight

I loved the Evrae fight. Not sure why Tidus and Rikku were the only ones who could give commands. I mean I am, but also come on. They should've found a different way to flavor that honestly. I wonder if they tried other stuff.

There were so many great bosses towards the end of the game. I wish they did more wacky stuff sooner. Spectral Keeper (the one with the glyph mines) is amazing.

I dunno if this is a hot take but Yunalesca is fun and easy

Leonhart4 posted...

I always thought hating Nagito was the hot take

I don't know if "Leon is the only good execution in the series" is a hot take or not, but I know it set me up for perpetual disappointment by being so brutal and not tainted by Monokuma's dumb sense of humor

In v3, are you separating the Monokubs from the students? Because the students in v3 get executed in brutal horrible ways. I would not want to die like Kaede, Kirumi, Kiyo, or Gonta.

Thorn posted...

IIRC wasn't V3 a bit ambiguous on whether Tsugumi was telling them the complete truth about their lives? Or I dunno, maybe they just kinda lost some coherence at the end there and it's just some plot holes and such.

I think it might technically be ambiguous, but at the beginning of the game no one has any memories and no one's dressed like ultimates because they woke up before they were supposed to. When the game starts Kaede goes from "i have no idea who i am" to "oh right, kaede akamatsu." So it's possible that they gave them a bunch of true memories, but I don't think so.

We might be leaving "hot take zone" and entering "criticism zone" but I don't like that the v3 cast makes a heroic sacrifice and then survives. The enclosure collapsed on them and all 3 survived. Also is it even a heroic sacrifice or are they just so mad at Tsumugi that they're willing to kill themselves at her? I initially disagreed with the "apologizes for suicide" take but I'm thinking about it more and wellllll

FoolFantastic posted...

Is everything implied to be written? I thought the whole idea was they invented these characters and prodded them in certain directions, but they were ultimately still the ones acting on those signals.

You're right. I partially rewatched chapter 6. The characters were made into unscripted reality TV personalities, not scripted cartoon characters. Presumably they didn't account for all the possibilities, so the characters were able to rebel. I still don't like this twist. I do like that the characters are determined to go on living afterwards.

MacArrowny posted...

But... it's not all fake in-universe. V3 takes place in a separate world from the previous DR stuff, where DR is a recurring game.

The scale of the two anime and the manga and UDG and the books etc. wouldn't make sense otherwise.

I know basically nothing outside the 3 main games, but v3 seems to definitively state that "The Outside World" is the same place in all 3 games. V3 is season 53 of a TV show. Danganronpa 1, 2, and 3 were the first 3 seasons. The cast of V3 was the 53rd group of Japanese high school students to go through an audition process where the winners got their memories wiped and joined a killing game.

Also yeah "it's all fake even in-universe" is a really lame twist, even if they started to telegraph it during the first game with the TV's

They don't do anything with it except include Tsumugi in the cast and that's not enough tbqh. They should've broken out of the simulation earlier and maybe confronted the writers and producers

Tsumugi has the line "everything has a writing credit," which is different from what you'd say for reality TV producers poking at the cast

It's also possible she's literally making stuff up and the characters are just responding to prompts like you say

masterplum posted...

It kind of sucks.

Everything it tries to do other games have done better.

Do you have some recommendations? I like the games but they're super flawed and I could easily imagine better versions

UshiromiyaEva posted...

. I also don't think the V3 ending being amazing is a hot take, the people who hate it are just very loud and vocal about it.

I hated it! I still kinda hate it even after realizing that it's kind of one step beyond 2s ending. I just don't like that that's the direction they went with it.

Also how does the whole "everything is written" thing work with the characters rebelling against the script? IRL writers wrote that. Did in-universe writers write their own downfall?

Also the fact that everyone's name and personality and backstory was decided by the showrunners. It's Despair Disease from 2-3 on steroids.

Feel free to spoil anything Danganronpa

Angie is one of the best characters in v3. She has an interesting story about an untreated mental illness that eventually kills her. She's got pure intentions but she's extremely harmful. The entire cast has to take sides after she forms the Student Council, and it's really interesting to see who joins her and who rejects her. I love that the robot finds religion and Miu is creeped out. Chapter 3 is a really interesting examination of people's responses to mortality. Sucks that Kiyo did a strategically-nonsense double murder for no real reason. Would've been interesting if second killer was a different person and we had a murderer in the cast for the rest of the game.

Accel_R8 posted...

I kinda agree on Chrono Cross. Honestly it's only got like, two good tracks. One of the most grating normal battle themes in any RPG.

Normal battle theme is so cool you just gotta get used to counting to 9

Also Sakuraba and Shimomura are both amazing lmao who hurt you guys

Anyway my hot take is that Uematsu's style couldn't keep up with technology. He can compose good midi files but eventually his lack of formal training seems to have caught up with him. FFX and X2 in particular are full of interesting piano-y music like Luca that I couldn't imagine coming from Uematsu alone. Still love his early work, some of his songs were very important to me growing up

Crescent-Moon posted...

FF7 is extremely imbalanced in general. Increasingly broken materia aside.

Haste+All (Or big guard, if you're feeling even cheaper) on one character. Slow on another character. Almost every boss in the entire game is weak to slow and gets run over just by this alone.

The only notable exception I know of is Carry Armor.

Yeah if you're gonna add haste and slow the whole game needs to be balanced around it. FFX did this right.

Materia should have big downsides. It's teaching you magic and Cloud has permanent damage from materia exposure ("materia eyes"). Gameplaywise this would exaggerate the differences between the characters in combat which this game desperately needs.

Final Fantasy has the least interesting magic systems possible. Desperately needs more diversity. Compare fire/fira/firaga to the fire moves available in Pokemon. Also MP is so boring. Needs MtG style colors or something

foolm0r0n posted...

VI's story is shallow nonsense. The world has no weight to it and nothing is believable, especially World of Ruin.

The original FF7 is unplayable in modern times, due to both graphics and gameplay.

Tidus in English is to this day one the best acted characters in all of video games.

I liked that FFVI's party party is full of unambiguously bad people. Edgar is a pedophile, Locke mugs people for a living, Shadow kills people for a living, etc. Replaying the beginning of the game recently for Game of the Month I was surprised by how well written the beginning was. Terra's obviously recovering from some kind of brain thing. Locke clearly views her as nothing more than a weapon and Edgar sees her as a sex object. But she's like "Locke is protecting me. A normal woman would find Edgar dashing. Why do I dislike this?" I don't really have an opinion on the depth of the whole story because I only know the rest in extremely broad strokes but the very beginning has some interesting ideas

Pretty much agree with second thing. I played up until Zolomy, which was the only interesting fight in the whole game. I think it was only interesting because it was hard. I ended up using Barrett's limit to kill all its MP. Otherwise I'm like... Why am I fighting motorcycles? Why are they weak to ice? Or maybe lightning. This is dumb. Every character plays basically the same. You want to give them all magic and have them all spam it as much as possible and that's it.

Probably agree with 3rd but need to play more voice acted games (the American ones that are basically TV shows have great acting, the acting is usually good in Spanish too)

I haven't either but some of them look really interesting and they do have Very Positive ratings so I'll pick it up. Thanks for the link :D

mark rosewater, the head designer of magic the gathering, says that amateur game designers will design cards that "read well" without concern for whether they're actually fun to play

whoops this is hot takes about final fantasy. sorry for making you read that, it doesn't elucidate my criticisms of this series at all

banananor posted...

you listed the primary reason for the leveling system at the very start of your post and then ignored it for the remainder

my proposed system offers even more difficulty modulation; you can multiply your damage by 4 just by swapping weapons. and it would be really easy to have little heart piece things for hp/mp/stamina if you want

BlackMageJawa posted...

The (possible) problem with your solution is that it prevents players from developing a preferred playstyle. If the best strategy for every boss is "Find and use the correct weapon", then if the weapon in question is of a type that you don't like using (say, a massive sword with a long windup would annoy me, others might love that and hate using daggers that deal rapid chip damage), it's going to alienate people who like setting up a character a particular way.

Now, you might think "forcing people out of their comfort zone" is a good thing, but I expect it would get a lot of backlash from existing soulsborneringwhatever fans, who seem to be very keen on builds, especially if it was a From release and not just another third-party soulslike.

I hear you, but you wouldn't be forced to swap weapons if you didn't want to. You're basically choosing whether you want to be loyal to your playstyle or whether you want to momentarily cheese the boss.

Which sounds very similar to "you don't have to level up" but this would really resolve the issue of what the "intended" experience is and it wouldn't force you to be OP until the rest of the game caught up. Modulating difficulty with temporary buffs and debuffs is better than modulating it with permanent character improvement.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Brother, you control the leveling.

That's the thing, though, I shouldn't. Like if I go kill a boss and feel good about it, and then find out after the fact that I "should've" been at a lower level, I will retroactively feel worse about killing the boss. Having the option to go grind sucks. If I take it then I'm cheapening this boss and weakening all the other stuff balanced around the same power level. If I don't take it then I'm wondering if I'm underleveled or whatever. And when part of the appeal of the games is supposed to be the difficulty, it's important to know what the appropriate difficulty is.

What does the leveling system afford us?

1. Difficulty modulation; we can stay level 1 and unarmed and naked and kill all the bosses nohit 1hp at a time, or we can grind indefinitely if we run into a brick wall and one-shot every boss
2. Character customization; if we level up different stats we'll have different characters
3. A sense of progression; you are stronger at the end of the game than the beginning

What don't I like about the leveling system?

1. Changes feel extremely incremental. Like if my defense stats go from 84 to 85, that doesn't feel like a Big Deal. Very rarely does a levelup feel "fun."
2. Open world means you sometimes find an area you're over/underleveled for; I haven't played enough of the game for this to be a problem yet but everyone agrees that this happens because of course it does, and they just throw up their hands and say that's an attribute of open-world games with levelup systems.
3. The game doesn't tell you what level you're supposed to be. If you keep dying to a boss, should you go grind? You can kill the stuff around the boss so you're probably intended to be able to kill the boss. If you overlevel for the boss you're probably going to overlevel for the stuff around the boss. "If the boss is too hard go grind" doesn't address this.
4. Also grinding sucks. Like that's cliche but it bears repeating.

The solution imo is to make elements ridiculously important, Pokemon-style. Maybe your starting weapon is an ice spear, but the nearest boss is an ice guy. So you look around a little bit and find a fire hammer. Once you learn how to use the hammer, you've gone from doing 50% damage to 200% damage to the boss.

You gradually get "stronger" not because you can bonk bigger numbers out of the enemy, but because you gain the ability to answer every situation. But if you want to, you can kill the enemy 1HP at a time with the worst possible weapon.

Also this is an opportunity to flavor the elements. Maybe fire is the "anger" element so it has lots of big-damage weapons and armor that gives you strength boosts for taking damage. Maybe wind is about moving fast so you've got lots of daggers and spears but not so many broadswords or axes.

That's the version of ER I wanna play. You're always at level 1 but your character gets more versatile over the course of the game.

paperwarior posted...

How about describing "objectively bad" things as flawed?

These are different things. If someone says a game is objectively bad they mean one thing, and if they say it's flawed they mean another.

paperwarior posted...

I can't say "technical quality" to mean "technically good or bad"?

You can. If you talk about a game's "technical quality," it will be clear what you mean by that. Then people will be able to argue with you about whether or not they agree with your message.

Words mean what people mean when they say them. Generally speaking, it's clear what someone means when they say a game is "objectively good" or "technically good," especially if they say literally anything else at all about it.

Edit:

Leonhart4 posted...

Like if you're going to argue something is objectively bad, then you should be able to discuss the objective metrics that make it bad instead of just saying so or saying enough people agree to make it so. Otherwise it doesn't actually enhance the conversation and becomes a word that leads to topics like this.

Well then the proper response is "what objective standards are you using?" If I call something objectively bad and leave it there, I probably think it's self-evident.

paperwarior posted...

I think the term you're looking for is "technical quality." As in, the skilled craft and design evident in the work itself. This also isn't quantitative but it's less dependent on opinion than the overall evaluation.

"Technical quality" is a noun phrase, while "objectively bad" is an adjective phrase, so they are not substitutes.

Also "objectively bad" works perfectly. It communicates the intended message compactly and everyone knows what it means.

I might have to try this. I didn't really like FF7's combat because the materia system kind of homogenized everyone so that their best option was basically to spam black magic. This looks like it would get around that issue :D

Kenri posted...

Loving this definition of objective that involves lots of people thinking something is or isn't a certain quality.

You know what someone means when they call an artwork objectively ugly, though.

There are 2 possible rebuttals to this, and one is much more interesting than the other.

The interesting one is "Here is the beauty to be found in the art."

The boring one is "No, subjectivity is an attribute of ugliness, therefore 'objectively ugly' is a contradiction. QED."

The boring answer always works. You don't even need to know what artwork is being discussed.

masterplum posted...

Yeah if there is no such thing as objectively better there is also no such thing as talent and therefore all art is worthless because banksy is no better at art than a toddler.

its nonsense

This is true. Even though personal taste overrides what's "objectively better" all the time, there is still "objectively bad" art.

literally everybody agrees that beauty is subjective

something is "objectively ugly" if literally everybody thinks it's ugly
"literally everybody" doesn't mean LITERALLY everybody
"objectively ugly" doesn't mean OBJECTIVELY ugly

hope this helps!

CassandraCain posted...

Yeah honestly a jar on your head would be immediately recognizable as Elden Ring.

How liberal can I be with the interpretation of "jar?" Like would a soup pot on my head communicate the idea? Or does it need to specifically be a terracotta cauldron thing with one handle and a band around the middle?

neonreaper posted...

Theres already someone who is connected to the jar, its not the right answer for you.

Oh yeah, that sounds familiar. Thanks for looking out :D

ohhhhhhhhhhhh sonic the hedgehog is a front for money laundering, that explains everything about the general way those things are going

Aecioo posted...

Tell us why

Planning on streaming Elden Ring, silly hat is for the thumbnail

TeamRocketElite posted...

[Jar] is correct.

I really like the concept but I don't know how I would make this work. Would any pot on my head convey the idea? Does it have to cover my eyes? Could I use, like, a saucepan? Does it have to have the handle and the carving around the middle?