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CyricZ posted...

What else is there?

Well the mods (the ones here at least) seem to have all taken one side of that divide. Admiral was actually a mod at one time, that could never happen now

CyricZ posted...

And there's no difference in, like, who those acronyms represent?

This is just sealioning at this point. I think I've explained my view well enough.

Aitz posted...

As a new man, I actually enjoy doing domestic labour stuff,

As a new man? What does that mean?

CyricZ posted...

So do you see this as the problem?

Part of it

CyricZ posted...

Do you think there's no difference between those two acronyms?

Of course there is, one is used by the left and the other by the right

CyricZ posted...

But honestly it would seem we are in agreement that there is capacity for debate to be found here, but you complain that either it's not happening enough to your liking, or you feel there's something else missing from it.

You can debate, the parameters that are accepted have just shrunk a ton. It's probably just a symptom of the broader issue in the US becoming ultra-polarized, it extends to gfaqs and mods have chosen their side.

Like you said, the transgender debate's a good example.

CyricZ posted...

Is that the kind of thing you feel is missing? The capacity to condemn and mock without consequence?

You can clearly still do that though, you just don't think about it because you don't have a problem with the type that's allowed. Isn't there a user here called ACAB? If you made an account called (a certain acronym beginning with YWN) you'd get usermap-axed

emblem-man posted...

Guys. Russia would not give them Whelan. It was Griner or nothing.

That's fair but it's not really the issue I have (I don't even know enough about Whelan's case to have an opinion on it)

We're trading a fucking arms merchant for her. It's ridiculous
I fully believe her punishment is outrageous and politically motivated but bruh, he's a genocide-enabler. Come on

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Well sorry for coming across that way. I wasn't trying to call you anything.

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Calling someone a murderer on CE for having an abortion should be modded, idk how just insinuating abortion = murder would play with the mods though. I'm guessing not very well.

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Oh yeah I've seen him, he does come across right-wing from what I've seen. Can't comment on what he has/hasn't gotten away with as far as his abortion takes go as I haven't seen them

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It's ok

CyricZ posted...

And you think that doesn't happen on these boards?

I think you've not been paying much attention.

As much as the past? No no no not at all, lol
But idk maybe it's just the way culture in general has changed, usually people nowadays on CE will hit you with a "lol" or a clown emoji or a turd emoji and keep on moving if you say something they don't like

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It's really not even views, more like the spectrum of what you can say, and to answer your question, I have other sites for posting that sort of thing.

I mean for instance my main is currently suspended for 30 days for a really lame joke (can't repeat it for obvious reasons so I'll just say it was a gradeschool-tier pejorative that I made up on the spot and leave it at that).
But I don't take it personally, it's almost like a game seeing what you can and can't get away with. Not as fun as it used to be with how extreme mods seem to be getting but eh.

The biggest thing is just habit though, I've been visiting gfaqs since like 2005 or something

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Lol I like how this net is so broad it now includes you.

I literally haven't heard of this woman before this thread and yet you're familiar with her work, curious. The calls were coming from inside the house the whole time

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No I'm not and no I haven't. I know what right-wing views will get me modded and I know not to express them (what few I hold, anyway). I have been modded for saying things that aren't politically correct though. You can say ACAB all day without any kind of warning from what I've seen so it's not every flavor of politically incorrect that gets punished, of course.

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Well at least you're admitting these assumptions are just based on feelings now. Also,

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/7/AAalL2AAD9-p.jpg

Now where's that proof that I'm an incel or any kind of right-winger. I'll wait

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I mean you're the one that keeps bringing this up (also mischaracterizing it, for the second time I said that's how you sounded), it was just a badly-worded expression of how weird your response was to that for me.

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The right-wing stance is that abortion IS murder, so there's no real distinction there. If you think a fetus is a person then you think terminating it is murder. That's the usual right-wing stance and you just conceded that it's a no-go here. I didn't see your discussion with gob, only user by that name I can find is https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com./user.php?db=.11.user=gobstopper

Not sure who you're even talking about but I'mma laugh if I look him up only to see "user is no longer a registered user"

About your stance on guns, it's a little more centrist than I'd expected but certainly not right-wing so I think I was right on that.

But anyway, I just saw your edit on post #223; I don't think I villainized you, just said you're painting me as something I'm not and were rude to me in the past (don't think it was on this account). I really don't care about some rudeness ordinarily but you've been saying I've been rude (to be fair I actually was the first to do a personal attack ITT, I should've just let bygones be bygones) so I've got to mention that I got that from you first in past threads. This is the last time I'll address this though, I'm getting tired of playing "who was the meanest"

Also I appreciate you wanting the best for me but you're off-base saying I have hate/resentment. I don't resent any demographic of people, not particularly anyway. Well except Republicans, GRRR

CyricZ posted...

Do you think that's what's missing? "An even split"? Do you think we need more people like The Admiral and Proudclad here?

As opposed to a one-sided circlejerk? Actual discussion & debate would definitely do the users here some good.

CyricZ posted...

So is that a statement on GameFAQs or a statement on yourself?

Uh, both I guess? Gfaqs mods are who they are and they mod at their discretion. Rules are just as they interpret them. The "abusive behavior" rule is the most obvious example, they could mod you for saying someone's dumb, but unless they don't like you, they won't. Guess who they tend to dislike? Hmm...

"shut the fuck up" easily fits the bill of abuse, yet it's somewhat infamously never modded. You quite literally just have to hope whatever mod is looking at your post happens to align with you politically which is why CE only has "safe" opinions for the last few years. It used to be pretty evenly split politically with users like The Admiral, Proudclad, etc. Now...not so much, lol

CyricZ posted...

How is your account level proof of what CE "allows"?

...this isn't my main
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Yes, that's the one time you used it correctly and I'll give you credit for it.

You may be "inferring" all sorts of things but aside from this one they're all wrong inferences. You were wrong about me "running in the incel community", I've never been a part of or visited any such community. You were wrong about me being on the right, I'm a registered democrat (proof at request). You were wrong when you said I was grouping no-post-hs education people with trade school attendees (I only said that neither went to college). You were wrong about me insinuating you voted for Bernie.

I mean at a certain point it's fairly obvious you aren't "inferring" things, and you don't really know how to do so properly. You're just guessing, or what's sometimes referred to as "making shit up"

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It's not my part to make sure people don't get a bad feeling from my post, I'm just stating opinions here, usually as plainly as I can. If they offend you then maybe resetera or some similarly restrictive place is more appropriate for you.

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No distinction is made in most cases and you know it. There's a reason you don't see the pro-life position here anymore. There's no one left that holds it, lol.
Also, vegy posts sexist shit all the time, so do many users. Talking about honkin' sloppers and mommy milkers and whatnot. It absolutely isn't sexism they crack down on, it's specific forms of wrongthink (note that there IS overlap sometimes), forms which are considered pretty standard views in the real world in the US.

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Everyone knows when you go far enough left you get your guns back, I'm not moved. The actual right-wing version of that opinion is that gun restrictions are tyranny and violate the 2nd amendment. Do you believe that as well?

s0nicfan posted...

We didn't even get Paul Whelan in the trade. Dude has been locked up since 2018 on trumped up spying charges with a 16 year sentence. Imagine being that guy's family and watching Biden trade the world's most infamous weapons dealer for a WNBA player and finding out your husband wasn't part of the trade.

Meme magic, baby. I've heard this woman's name probably a dozen or more times and I didn't even know who tf she was until this thread. Certain people pushed this story relentlessly so it's only natural the Biden admin would think it's important.

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Apparently free shit isn't what most people are "interest"ed in then, huh?

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I don't care and I didn't even say you did. Oh wait you must be "inferring" again, lol

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Please do, post the exact definition here if you would, that'd be great. Maybe even define it in your own words as well.

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Nah you were pretty rude first and I think I've argued with you in a previous thread where you started acting this way pretty much right off the bat as well. I understand that I'm in your bubble and I'm not supposed to have these opinions or even be here so a certain level of hostility is to be expected I suppose.

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DCDA but I'm obviously not talking about a socioeconomic bubble, I mean a political one. CE only allows left opinions on many topics, my account level is proof.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Because, guys don't see most of those chores as worth doing, or even perceive the chore as existing.

This is a lot of it tbh, women are very anal about cleanliness, guys tend to have a much higher threshold for what a "mess" actually is. Basically, women are gonna tend to see it as a problem first, take care of it, get mad the man didn't see to it first, rinse, repeat

Questionmarktarius posted...

Here's what's going on, in two simple sentences:
"The sink is full of dirty dishes!"
"No, it's not full yet."

This feller gets it

Dragon56 posted...

Not really. 24/7 access to negative news and partisan hostility can certainly cause brain rot and anger.

Probably the single biggest reason. A lot of the things people get riled up about is just horseshit nonsense whipped up by media specifically to rile them up. Most people are not affected by it but they get angry nonetheless. You never know what weird thing people will be mad at tomorrow, it's pretty fun to watch lol

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Probably not a good idea, mods can still mod people for DM'd messages. They're still very much reportable

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Most people in the US don't agree with "free shit plz", I hate to tell you. I know you're in this bubble so it's hard to see it but that's the real world. It's why Bernie lost.

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Why do you keep bringing up "other threads" like I'm supposed to have kept up with your whole post history, lol. I know this is a dying site with only about 75 users but not everyone is a member of your clique. And no, I'd consider those things insults coming from most people but this is CE so...

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You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Most of this is made up but it seems you think insults are fair game as long as they're direct? Given that that's how you do it. Rhetorical question of course, I know it's just standard hypocrisy :P

Sad_Face posted...

That is also incorrect. The incel term has always been inaccurate because it was never about the act of having sex. It's the validation of having someone who deems you attractive enough to be your companion and share physical intimacy with. For men, this validation is getting laid. For women, the validation is in a guy she wants making her his only girlfriend and wanting to make her his wife. Women control access to sex, men control access to relationships. This is how females can be incels in the age of online dating where they can whip up an app and get a date within the hour.

Even this seems like a more useful definition than simply "guy who hates women"

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe we already had a term for that didn't we? lol

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Well why call online woman haters incels then? Not all involuntarily celibate people hate women, either.

SHRlKE posted...

Damn man people take this hella personally. Incel has meanings more than just whats in the dictionary you know. Culturally it now has connotations to misogyny even if technically speaking on paper it doesnt. Language evolves over time.

Yeah but that's like the guys who say a feminist is an insane, screeching man-hater. Or that a vegan is someone who really, really likes telling you what things they don't eat.
Yes stereotypes exist for a reason but it's not really fair to redefine an existing term by the examples of it that you hate the most.

Note that usage of a term as an insult is a different thing and I do it myself, I'm just talking about actually trying to define one established term as something more specific (or adjacent) that you dislike.

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The problem with that definition is that there must be guys who despise women but get tons of sex and you're left needing to explain how you figure that Brad Lightningwinky is involuntarily celibate, lol

Gavin Mcinnes is a quick example, the guy thinks women shouldn't be able to vote but he has a wife and kids. And about a hundred tales of wacky sexcapades (though they could be all made up for all we know)

DeadBankerDream posted...

And he intentionally does not respond to criticism of his behavior,

tbf most people on CE don't know how to do that in a calm and civil manner so that's usually the correct course of action

SneakyGoomba posted...

I don't understand people that do this.

This isn't the olden days, you don't need them to help out on the farm and half of them aren't going to die of disease or whatever. People had kids back then for practical reasons is all I'm saying. Having 9 kids as a choice in this day and age is honestly bizarre af to me.

Probably just down to poor impulse control in all probability, I know a few big-ass families and that's usually the sense I get. Most of them don't believe in birth control either so what are ya gonna do, the pull-out method ain't 100% \_()_/

pegusus123456 posted...

https://i.imgur.com/6MSSdm1.png

Idk where people get this idea that physics don't apply to the groin area but https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23676889/

It also unfortunately can cause urinary incontinence, though both of these things can be improved with exercises and time

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No. I assume you don't like men telling you that you belong in the kitchen and are happier there, so we'd appreciate you not telling us how many years of school we have to do or how to live or how to vote, either.

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For example: I remember someone linking a video here where she showcased that many women like men that are financially secure (this is correct) and men that have similar college education (correct) then notes that men nowadays are hardly graduating or even going into college compared to women (again correct) so this leads to a reduced viable dating pool with men that don't fulfill the criteria for relationships and a reduced pool for women (also true.)

Then uses it to frame it as "maybe we are too selective. Perhaps are standards are too high."

Firm disagree. The conclusion should be "Then why aren't men going to college?

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You seem to think equality of outcome is a right so you absolutely do not.

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Yeah I edited that because I didn't want my post to get modded (the mods have been very trigger-happy lately), you know this which is probably why you bring it to attention, in the hopes that the mods will just deal with me.

But anyway, I was just pointing out how bizarre that response was and how it didn't correlate to the quote it was a response to at all. You can think I'm mad if you want, my main point there was just to point out your strange behavior

Also I like how you keep acting like you're a good person who's above pettiness when you've said

I'm an incel
I'm a right-winger
Certain people -deserve- to be lonely (wtf??)

And that's just on this page! I never called you anything, if I'm not mistaken. Feel free to point out an actual example of it though (post 212 is not accurate, what I said is that that's how you sound, not what you are. There's a distinction.) so acting like I'm the one who's getting salty/spicy/bitter/umamiwithatwistoflime is just lol

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You aren't even him so idk why you are speaking

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Lmao you don't know what's good for me better than I do. Now who was it that was talking about concern trolling a while ago...

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We'll cross that bridge when we get to it then.

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I can only assume you quoted the wrong part of my post because not only was that not angry in the slightest, it also wasn't an attack on you in any conceivable way. You honestly sound completely unhinged

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You don't even know what rights are though, so please don't

codey posted...

We really have to stop grouping people that attend trade schools with those that are just foregoing education

I hope you aren't referring to me because I didn't do that.

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The trap of self-determination and doing what you want with your life? Lol I'll dive headfirst into that trap every time tyvm

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I think men already do. Your own link says 50% of women make more and 50% make less. Isn't that equality (a good thing)?

I get that you want men to earn more so that women don't have to lower their standards but you can't have it both ways. Equality or dominance, pick 1

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Nah not really, lots of men myself included have no desire to go to college. People act like it's the baseline for being a full person or something, it's just a waste of time for those of us who just want to start working or who'd rather go to a trade school or whatever (or those of us who simply don't care about money very much)

Women can be hypergamous if they like but acting like men are failing because we make different life choices on the whole is just lol. It's very egocentric, actually

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Lmao I said that after you came up with your own, simply to rebut it. You're so dishonest it's unreal lol

The rest of your post is just you ranting about incels and this woman who is apparently their queen or something according to you (don't know and don't care if that's true), you seem to have an allergy to actually discussing ideas rather than attacking the people expressing them. Further proven by you cutting the conversation short as soon as it became obvious that's not how I do things.

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You keep using that word but she doesn't, not even once. You're interpreting what she's actually saying in a way that lets you twist it to attack a strawman of incels or something for some reason.

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I didn't say it was. I've heard it several times though. Not really important though, the point is that the sentiment it conveys is widely-accepted and uncontroversial

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You can draw any conclusion based on your characterization of her but that's all it is until I hear her say it. An equally incel-ly follow-up to her (actual) statement is that those women still nevertheless have sky-high standards for men despite being lonely. This ironically adheres to the bitter incel worldview better than your assumption does despite being the opposite one.

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Probably men less-so though because at least a guy at that age is more likely to be financially attractive. Men don't really go for money/security.

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Do you want names or what? It's a saying, you can google it. It's a turn of phrase, you're taking it a bit too literally. It's referring to sexual interest in general.

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That makes sense if someone were saying that but they aren't.

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No she isn't. She's just saying something (which is widely-accepted) which is that unspoken-for 40-50 y/o women are in a bad boat. It's a pretty common sense thing, there's even a saying about it "the only thing women hate more than being catcalled is the day that it stops"

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Not really, saying those 40-50 y/os want the incels just because they themselves aren't wanted doesn't really follow.

LightningAce11 posted...

I was wondering if Everything Everywhere All at Once would be on the list.

I'd hope not, that movie was fucking dog poo
I can't believe how people have clung onto that movie, one of the dumbest pieces of media I've ever consumed (half of)

Blue_Inigo posted...

Miyazaki movies should be higher tbh

This, and there should be more of them

Beetlejo posted...

Here is literally the plot for the best film of all time apparently.

The film examines a single mother's regimented schedule of cooking, cleaning and mothering over three days. The mother, Jeanne Dielman (whose name is only discerned from the title and from a letter she reads to her son), has sex with male clients in her house each afternoon, for her and her son's subsistence. Like her other activities, Jeanne's sex work is part of the routine she performs every day by rote and is uneventful.


Then, late on the second and during the third day, Jeanne's routines begin to subtly unravel. She overcooks the potatoes while preparing dinner, and wanders around the house carrying the potato pot. She misses a button, and drops a newly washed fork. These alterations to Jeanne's existence continue before the third day's sexual customer arrives. She has orgasmic sex with the client, then impulsively stabs him to death with a pair of scissors. She then sits quietly at her dining room table.

Lmfaoo I swear to fuck these people would literally watch paint dry

Sounds like a gigantic waste of time but I'll probably watch it anyway just to see what the fart sniffers are into these days

SauI_Goodman posted...

I take it you dont hit the gym very ofen

I mean if I did I'd be stronger than even more women

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I genuinely am though. I mean yeah really fat women obviously can carry more weight on their backs than I can but as far as functional people go I can't think of a woman I met who was stronger than me.

Prestoff posted...

But not all men are strong.

That's true obviously but I literally weigh 135 lbs and I'm stronger than any woman I've ever met. The physiological differences really can't be understated

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Unless you want men to continue suffering from more mental and body health

Women would suffer more, though. I wouldn't want a woman to have to do the sort of work I did when I was younger because my body could barely take it, they'd be debilitated by it

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Yeah if you count anything involving meeting someone online as online "dating" I'd believe that the majority of people with dating experience have some with online dating. I was thinking more along the lines of actual dating sites but if social media counts as well then I'd believe it. Anyway I agree online dating sucks but then so does all dating

Prestoff posted...

It should be individuals who are more suited to different things rather then your gender or race.

Unfortunately that's not the reality. The reality is that men are about 50% stronger than women on average.
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/brzycki/files/mb-2002-01.pdf

gunplagirl posted...

You want me to go into detail about the long and established history of men using their female partners as personal therapists?

You're saying "their female partners" (people who they absolutely -should- be able to talk to but I guess your partner has less skin in the game of your mental health than your guy buddies do, lol) now whereas before you were saying random women.

Wild how little women care about us lol, I'm realistic so it can't disappoint me but it's still always a little shocking ngl

Yeah men unfortunately fall for the meme that women are more in touch with their feelings or better with feelings in general so they go to people who they should know don't care about them and can't relate for help. Therapy is expensive I suppose.

gasgpmo posted...

Validation from individuals you hold in high esteem is fine. But seeking constant affirmation from random strangers on the internet is not going to help anyone in the long run.

All I'm saying is that if what you perceive as "the world" is bringing you down, then you need to divorce yourself from it and live your own life. And question whether this thing the world calls "body image" really matters in the first place.

Yeah I basically agree with that. To be honest I think health should be your first concern long before aesthetics, it just happens that they usually closely correlate (which is nice)

gasgpmo posted...

Part of having a good body image is not caring about what the world thinks of it.

I don't really agree with this, lack of self-esteem issues is not really the same as the presence of confidence. I do think you need validation to feel good about yourself (for most people, obviously exceptionally good looking people will always know it)

Prestoff posted...

This, and guess who in history instituted the patriarchy that men are suffering from now? Other men. The faster we get rid of the notion to "man up", "alpha males", "chads", and gender roles in general the better we as a society can actually tackle actual mental health.

That patriarchy is what built everything we already have though, it's important to keep in mind that every paradigm has advantages and disadvantages. Patriarchy has problems, it's not the problem itself and a lot of sectors of society rely on masculinity and the acknowledgment that men and women are more suited to different things.

Oubliettes posted...

kek

jej, even.

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It does not.

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No I want you to address the fact that his study shows literally less than 40% of couples met online. Further stressing your point's solidity, that's only current couples. Online dating is relatively new, past experience for most people will be an even lower number than that the further back you go since it's more popular now than ever. No matter how you slice it, online dating isn't more ubiquitous than offline.

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Data that doesn't actually show what you're claiming, lol.
I like this gimmick though, the pigeon playing chess style of argumentation where you shit all over the place and then strut around as if you won, kek I kinda want to keep this going just to see more of that.

I like how the pew research you posted also doesn't in any way prove your claim that most dating experience comes from online dating, lmao why do you keep throwing out irrelevant data points?
Also you never addressed my point that whatshisface's data literally shows most dating experience is not from online dating

MasterOfGames57 posted...

Women cheer on women too. You conveniently left that out. Maybe because it contradicts your point?

Only when they see themselves in it. They're much more harsh when it comes to attractive women that they can't compete with (I think I have a pic showing this, it's a post by Enji Night being picked apart by jealous women on social media)

There's probably a lot of reasons why guys don't show support for other guys, I think the main reason though is that they just don't see themselves in other guys as much as women do. What some other guy is doing is his thing. Also there's not a movement for men encouraging confidence and "empowerment" and whatever as there is for women