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FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

And therefore any mention of innocents being an unfortunate casualty of war makes you insensitive to the plight of the Palestinians, and ignorant to the whole conflict.

There's a world of difference between unfortunate casualties of war, arguably like the hostages the IDF shot when opening fire on crowds of people, and deliberate atrocities like sniping doctors in hospital windows, knowingly killing children in incubators, and telling a million people to move overnight or they're going to get bombed anyway (and then bombing the places they've been moved to multiple times).

C'mon, man. You see the difference, right?

HHH_is_the_game posted...

Well now with the anti-israel stance, there's nazis marching with the left too lol

There is no anti-Israel stance on the left. There is an anti-Israel-committing-genocide stance on the left.

Why you gotta be like this, man?

HHH_is_the_game posted...

be critical of their own party

By the by, you know this is entirely how the left operates, right?

The right doesn't usually eat their own. Or hadn't before the MAGA house started going all depraved and radical on each other since Trump's attempted coup.

HHH_is_the_game posted...

IMO a wise person should be willing to step across the aisle if its the right thing to do

Name me three times in the last... 10-ish years when it would have been a good idea or the right thing to do for someone on the left to "step across the aisle" and meet the conservatives.

Support your answers with facts and evidence.

I want to see examples of where this... centrism... would have been a good idea.

UnfairRepresent posted...

<___________<

Not that one. The good one.

CBT is a legit thing.

I thought it was much more individually tailored... but I'm all for any kind of rehabilitation efforts for many types of prison inmates.

How this guy wasn't charged with attempted murder 1 (for being there, coming after Nancy) and attempted murder 2 (for his assault... in front of the police, of her husband) is just beyond me.

It was so transparently an assassination attempt, and people just let him go with, "He said kneecaps after the fact," like that somehow tracks?

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

I still would ask why demanding a safe return for the hostages is such a silly requirement for a ceasefire?

Hard to agree to return hostages when:

- people wanting hostages back refuse to enter into any good faith negotiations with or without hostages

- people wanting hostages back don't promise to not kill you when you bring the hostages back

- people wanting hostages back have shot said hostages when trying to shoot hostages takers, giving zero fucks

Israel doesn't seem to want hostages back. They want an excuse to keep purging Palestinians.

creativerealms posted...

Despite what conservatives tell you Biden is doing all the same things at the border that Trump did.

Not all of them. Just too many of them.

hexa posted...

however, the Holocaust against Jews was not invented by Adolf Hitler. The leader of the Holocaust was named Adolf Eichmann. Hitler actually went out of his way to save some Jews from persecution, most notably his Jewish physician

This... this is not the defense you think it is...

Dude.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

Its like Hamas got a commit an atrocity free card because of the disproportionate response done by Israel.

Are you fucking kidding me?

runewalshPSiv posted...

A cease fire won't work because hamas has always broken any cease fire they had between them.

Israel has broken cease fires before, pre-emptively, with the excuse of, "If we didn't, hamas totally would."

kelemvor posted...

Thats a pretty big tinfoil hat you have to wear to think Isreal is intentionally attacking civilians instead of Hamas fighters. There is no tactical advantage to that in war. In fact, it only hurts your cause in the propaganda war.

Israeli choppers opened fire indiscriminately on crowds after the concert attack and only started picking targets with any care near the end of their strafing runs.

And then there's reports of IDF opening fire on militants and Israeli hostages, killing said hostages, without stopping to check or care.

And then there's the long history of Israel picking places at random, like, say, buildings full of journalists, and bombing the fuck out of it "because there were reports hamas might be there doing a thing maybe."

It doesn't take tinfoil to draw a conclusion based on past evidence.

kelemvor posted...

Isreal doesn't want the Gaza Strip. They withdrew over a decade ago. Again, I thought that was common knowledge.

They want all of Palestine. This is common knowledge. Withdrawing without withdrawing the ghettoes and apartheid... isn't withdrawing, chum.

Looks like 1337 got to it before me.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

tbf, Top Gun Maverick is a really awesome movie. I dont blame him

Cut the last... 30-ish minutes from it, and maybe you have an argument.

I've been having imgur issues when clicking through.

Changing the domain from .com to .io seems to solve the issue. But I still have to copy and paste into the address bar.

This isn't a problem I've encountered on desktop, that I remember. Just mobile.

Zwijn posted...

I wish the west was less invested in this emotionally. Half our last D&D session consisted of some people screaming death to Jews with the other half yelling nuke Palestine. People went absolutely nuts.

(1) I'm not one to say which people at a table are having #badwrongfun... but your entire table is having #badwrongfun. Find a new group.

(2) You're missing a month of karma on a 4-month-old account and you have 600 active posts. What the fuck?

Did the censure against MTG take?

I saw a clip just last week that was almost 10 minutes long, catalogueing her offenses.

If anyone actually need a censure, it's her.

Necronmon posted...

if this is true

It's probably just as true as when Israel says there's a militant stronghold under every playground, house, hospital, ice cream stand, and cardboard box.

I have no desire to give a statement as absurd as this the benefit of the doubt.

Da-Etiquette posted...

Hamas has got to go. Terrorist organization.

Likud has to go, too. Genocidal fascists.

As of... 9-ish hours before the time of this post?

Conditions:
1. All the hostages back (which I guess means the ones the IDF indiscriminately shot, which means they can't get them all back, will blame hamas, and call it a non-starter)

2. Palestine being helpless, unarmed, and under IDF control with no autonomy or sovereignty (basically more of the same)

3. The ghettoes turned into a hunting preserve the IDF can enter at-will to hunt alleged militants

Sounds to me like Irael will accept no cease fire that doesn't include the de facto end of Palestine at this point. Not when they're to the point of sniping doctors who walk past hospital windows.

Everyone is a militant, and everywhere (from hospitals to schools to bulldozed and bombed houses is a "militant stronghold").

There is no good-faith position from Netanyahu and Likud to call a cease fire. It's the slimmest of pretenses to look like they would accept or initiate one. Except not.

It's like watching the Republicans say, "Burn down the government or we'll burn it down," during budget negotiations. Except this one will result in Palestinian genocide.

And then there's this gem:

Netanyahu has said the responsibility for any harm to civilians lies with Hamas.

"We're going to bomb you out of existence, but blame the people not bombing you instead of us, who are bombing you."

How the hell are we supposed to take Israel seriously when they say they're trying to end the conflict and attempt any kind of peace?

SOURCE: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/netanyahu-rejects-growing-calls-for-cease-fire-vows-israel-will-crush-hamas-with-full-force

Tyranthraxus posted...

I uhhh don't think he understands what a drinking song is.

He knows he ripped one off. But I don't know if he doesn't understand it was a comical song to begin with, and he just made it worse.

https://youtu.be/2x8D4T--0v4?feature=shared

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_the_Pink_(song)

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Yup.

lderivedx posted...

Why would they commit genocide on Palestinians while it's convenient to let them be second-class citizens for the cheap labor? Israel is having to import agricultural workers to replace jobs Palestinians used to fill.

Because the terrorist attack on the concert finally gave them an excuse to do openly and in one fell swoop what they've been doing by inches for decades.

They haven't even been second-class citizens. That would be an improvement from where they were before.

Solid_Snake07 posted...

Oh, so after failing at every juncture to actually initiate a genocide in Israel for the past few generations theyre gratuitous enough to accept the offer theyve spit on and slapped away multiple times?

How cool of them

Sometimes a dog knows when it's beat, and Israel honestly should have taken the win and made the effort to establish borders the instant that went on the table.

It's literally designed to do this from the ground up.

(And not just for white guys baited by someone with a mic and cell phone camera. But anyone who knows anything about criminal "justice" in America is painfully aware of that already.)

Solid_Snake07 posted...

Hamas would absolutely kill every Jew in Israel if they were capable of doing so.

If they were capable. They're not.

At scale, hamas is not capable of fulfilling a genocide. They instead employ terrorism and terrorists to harm Israel at every opportunity.

But it's not going to amount to genocide unless some major shift in political and military power occurs.

Solid_Snake07 posted...

Palestinian leadership for the past 80 years has made it abundantly clear the only compromise theyre interested in is the complete expulsion of the Jewish population.

Current leadership in hamas, at least according to wiki (a couple weeks back, when this all started), has said they'd accept the '67 borders.

And they've walked back the language from their original charter saying it's a historical artifact, and they're not for the absolute and total extermination of the Jews anymore.

Both of which seem to be more generous (and almost "progressive") compared to what Israel has been saying in the last month about them.

That's so not going to go how he thinks it will.

Unless getting in front of the cameras is specifically for sending messages to his followers instead of answering lawyer and judge questions.

I can see that being a very real danger.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

It compared Hamas to ISIS and called October 7th a genocidal event (which it was.)

It was terrorism. It was an atrocity.

It was not genocidal.

Genocide usually requires some kind of instutional leverage, and a scale of force that needs to be brought to bear against a whole group of people. Something systemic.

You've been in every other I/P thread. You should know this by now.

AltAccount3 posted...

Daily update is going to have to be delayed today because there seems to be an info blackout. Can't find any new info about new death tolls from any sources. Not even Al Jazeera. The hospitals being attacked may have something to do with it.

Wouldn't be surprised. In one of your threads that established the palestinian authority as reliable when it came to wounded and death numbers by the UN, that same link and comment stated that those numbers were provided by the infrastructure in place in the hospitals.

Foppe posted...

The big question is... will they help evacuating the babies, or will they use the opportunity to get access to the hospital?
Or worse, attack the hospital because it was a trick by Hamas?

I know what I think the answers to those questions are.

That was bad, even for him.

How far he's fallen since abandoning even the pretense at having or maintaining academic credentials and standards.

Umbreon posted...

The sun rose again today.

In the East, you say?

High school VHS sneakernet and Saturday morning cartoons.

Xenogears15 posted...

I remember seeing something to the effect that the legislature is going to try and go around the courts to weaken the amendment and/or the process of public voting on the amendments.

Was it this one?

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-abortion-overthrow-judicial-powers-77a68c1e6ee6fc79462f6aaf4ea1a323

Rexdragon125 posted...

This is what the 2nd amendment is for

Protecting the federal government from people who would try to overthrow it and our experiment in democracy in general?

Well...

Yes, actually. This one would be one of the cases where a militia could be called up to suppress anti-democractic activities that threaten our government's integrity.

Not that it ever will. We have precious few examples of it happening already, and the Republicans have made damn sure that the 2A doesn't mean what it originally did anymore, just so they can sell more guns to people.

It's a lovely fantasy to imagine the Ohio republican legislature marched to jail at a militia's prodding bayonet so they can be processed and tried for their crimes... but shit that good never happens in real life.

At some point, we just need to dissolve the republican party and relegate them to the dustbin of the past, like the whigs and the know-nothings.

If they refuse to participate in democracy, there's no reason they should be part of the democratic process.

Cemith posted...

The poor and middle class already pay more taxes than the rich.

Mostly because the rich can afford lawyers to exploit the tax code. It's engineered that way.

Normal people don't have the time, expertise, or funds to get out of taxes. But rich people do.

Prismsblade posted...

Our country spends to much money. So much so that were in massive debt mostly because of that. To the point that even taxing the wealthy and all wont help.

If we chose the programs we spent on better, we'd see an actual return on our taxes. And then some.

Mnemonic

SpawnShadow posted...

Apparently, he lost.

https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/TX/Hood/118569/web.317647/#/summary

Small blessings.

Did he still get elected?

Because there wasn't time to remove his name from the ballot...

Because the news wasn't widespread enough before the election...

Because Republicans just don't seem to care how often this happens...

StealThisSheen posted...

You do realize it's still illegal to "nudge" somebody with your car, right

He does. Wouldn't be the first time he's made some kind of atrocious post along those lines.

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Gowron would approve, yes.

brestugo posted...

KoolAssAssasin?

Yes! That was the one.

But I don't have that ID tagged for anything. I guess I don't remember his rep or remembered it wrongly.

But this alt of whoever needs to meet the mod queue.

TyVulpine posted...

so any person on death row prior to can still be hung.

True, but they can also be hanged.

Not every hanged man is hung, and nit every hung man is hanged.

darkmaian23 posted...

That's just ridiculous. Well, at least he is guilty of something! He could be like one of those other people who were found to be innocent but the courts decided to kill them anyway. There was a case just last year, wasn't there?

Might have been this one: https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/09/texas-execution-arthur-brown-jr/

But "Texas refuses to stop execution of innocent man" turns back so many results on Google...

Tora_Sami posted...

Guys your being obviously trolled. Dude only has 2 active posts.

I swear there was an assassassin account at one point that had a proper karma ratio back on 261... can't remember now if they were a troll or not, now that you screencapped that...

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

Hamas absolutely has the power to wipe out Israel. We are seeing it play out in real time right now. By provoking the Jewish state into armed conflict in which civilians are going to die, you erode foreign support for the Israelis.

Are you taking the piss?

"If we just bait Israel into killing all of us, we win because everyone will kill Israel after we're dead and gone and genocided," is not Hamas having the power to wipe out Israel.

Do you hear yourself?

AssAssasin69 posted...

yeah because the last 4 years have been amazing

Well, in 4 years, we haven't had a president with the blood of 900,000 Americans on his hands, so... I'd say we've improved by leaps and bounds from just that alone.

TonyKojima posted...

Veridian III?

...on the bridge.