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LonelyStoner posted...

First Im hearing about Touhou games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfpz2Ta2Kd4
It's mostly known for its music though.

Thanks

Thanks

ZUN dancing with his fans at a cosplay con
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5NS2TKcpkU

Yeah, I saw a clip of a endgame battle where everything was max level and there was even a mirror match! A lot of creative concepts to be sure.

Mad-Dogg posted...

This.

There is also a shin megami tensei-like that i wouldn't mind trying. Probably wait to see if it ever get released on psn or eshop:
https://youtu.be/3Et4AALT_PM?si=DudiuLpn0Lze1U7x

I believe Labyrinth of Touhou is a very well received Etrian Odyssey inspired fangame. There's also puppet performance which is pretty well received as a Pokemon fangame too I heard.

I've still yet to hear that track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztw6slhDsME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuZTMjVQ1KA

Here's a good LP moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osf1fa4UhP4

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Right? I blame the reaction cams personally.
I've seen blind playthroughs where the player bought a lore master along as a co-commentator to give them and the viewer context which is better but still not something I'd want if I was searching for LPs.

Very true. Although I will note it is interesting to see blind reactions to some things. I would like it if there were let's plays of something experiencing something blind for the first time and then later LPing them 100%ing the game but those are rare and far between.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

LP as in recorded himself playing through the game once or LP as in actually made a detailed playthrough, tried to be informative and all that?
I feel like LP means a few conflicting things nowadays.

I'm glad you mentioned that. I was thinking about that a few days ago. Let's play pretty much just means any commentated video these days, and are actually usually blind playthroughs. The informative stuff are "100% walkthroughs" and they're more often than not without commentary and if they are, they're usually text.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Posted 2021, I wonder if Terry Crews knows what's being parodied at each point of that collab?
I remember hearing something a while ago about him referencing Mother 3 which was also in there. Maybe he's working through it section by section.

I believe he did an LP of the visual novel Danganronpa so he definitely seems a bit versed in these meme culture media.
_____Cait posted...

They are in their own world of shmups. I dont like how they overshadowed the more traditional shmups, but they arent bad games.

The fanbases can get really weird and kind of fbi watchlist weird too.

Did you try out some within these months?

Looks like the official Terry Crews account referenced Reimu
https://twitter.com/terrycrews/status/1402659518710902787

Incurso91 posted...

The four I've played are not in the style of the mainline games.

Touhou Luna Nights - style of a Metroidvania
Touhou Scarlet Curiosity - style of an ARPG
Touhou New World - style of an ARPG
Koumajou Remilia Scarlet Symphony - basically Castlevania 3

Luna Nights is fantastic. Scarlet Symphony and New World play fine, but better to wait for a significant sale. Scarlet Symphony feels awful to play and I didn't get far before I set it aside.

The fangames are generally more accessible but I think there's just this level of charm that the original games have. They can be hard but things like practice patches or cheat engine makes it easier to handle.

Ratchetrockon posted...

I played one of the stages on little big planet 2

It seemed faithful based on videos of the actual stage. Got the music,menu, and art style down. Only problem was that the fps would dip below 30 lol..

I've never played an actual touhou game tho. Not my type of genre. Only know about the series because of little big planet and people who keep mentioning its characters in fictional character battle forums lol.

Huh, little big planet?
Do you have a video of this?

https://old.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemThreeHouses/comments/19essmh/a_question_about_agarthansnabateans/

https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemThreeHouses/comments/v9woi1/updated_tierlist_of_how_much_authority_each/?rdt=40377

https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemThreeHouses/comments/v9woi1/updated_tierlist_of_how_much_authority_each/?rdt=40377

Part of my new year resolution is in beating AM ITT.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I knew they were out there, some RPG stuff and a Mario Kart inspired racer, but it took until now to finally see one. Even weirder thought, someone nearby knows what Touhou is.

Sorry for the long wait, had some stuff going on. I take it you don't know anyone IRL who knows what Touhou is? I've seen a few people recognize it these days and even a decade ago during its heyday I had someone recognize the "Death Waltz" which I think I've mentioned earlier.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

No I don't think so. I didn't play the 4th game that comes after that one because they changed it too much, but I think that's where they wrap it up.

Ah I see, I know the feeling of not catching up to a newer game in the series that wraps up plots from older ones. In fact, I think that's where I'm at with Touhou now.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I used to be like that. Probably because a lot of the titles were in Japanese and I had no faith I'd be able to find them again.
On one hand, capturing the spellcards comes off like the canonical approach but after a while, don't gameplay oddities get pulled into fan interpretations and become just as good? Like without ZUN saying otherwise, you can focus on the timeline where Sagume trips over a bomb, botches her entrance and there is no fight.
It's kind of like Dark Souls 1. I used to do all the fights normally with different builds. Now that's gotten old and I get more of a kick out of using weird unsporting strategies like hitting Capra and Manus from outside their boss rooms, unplugging O&S' AI and the like.

I'm pretty unique when it comes to Touhou since I tend to follow the official stuff over fan interpretations. I used to follow a few fanworks but eventually I focused on only following the official media, which there are already a whole ton of. The main thing with doing the spell cards is that when I actually try to capture them I notice how they're all pretty unique and it's actually interesting to puzzle out a way to beat them the way ZUN intended without a cheesy exploit. The decimal games like the photography games and the fighting games basically require you to capture spell cards too so I feel that to be consistent with them I should try to cap them in the main games too.

I'll admit I used to have fun with exploits too once I discover them for the first time. I remember finding out about the Strikers ditman glitch in resident evil 4 for the first time. Eventually though I do still think "playing it normally" optimally is what I find most enjoyable.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

That makes sense though and I don't think it really condemns Nue's. The palanquin ship crew have a mission. They're more immediately hostile toward the player.
With Nue it's like "Haha okay you finally caught me, let's throw some lasers at each other."
There's no real stakes, so I don't mind the song being calmer. With stuff like 6 and 11, you've found and aggroed the local crazy person so it makes sense they'd have those songs. I do think Mokou's easier than Nue, but it's the same kind of deal. Mokou's not really trying to win because she knows you can only antagonise for a while her at most and her song's pretty relaxed. And I know Suwako's also a no stakes fight but with a livelier song. Difference there is she's a deity whose fellow deity and underling lost to you, so she has to try and win some of her shrine's dignity back.

I'd say Mokou's theme is very fast. It's also in a minor key so it's definitely more on the intimidating energetic side than Nue's is, which is what I usually expect from an Extra boss.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Harder than the Shoot The Bullet/Double Spoiler ones? I know there's some brutal ones in those games.

Easily. Those cards are meant to be captured. Pristine Danmaku Hell is basically what you save every bomb in your run for lol.
Powdered_Toast posted...

I think the Buddhists are way better than the Taoists.

I think pretty much everyone does. The buddhists not only have more members but they get more screentime as well.

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On a bit of a hiatus again unfortunately

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new year

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Fistfuls of fish day ugh

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Sorry, I got sidetracked. End of the year and some games I was really invested in.
I actually randomly caught a glance of a physical Touhou game at the game store the other day. It was surreal. It was a Touhou game on PS4 for 15 golden coins. What an unrepentantly strange future we live in.

Yeah, no worries, I'm the exact same. Physical Touhou games are always funny because they actually get more mainstream attention than the official games which lead some people to think they are the official games when they're fan games. I've been seeing them since 2018 for the Switch.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Not really, Blazblue just gets more bent out of shape as it goes on. It's more like at the end the timeloop ends because the villain gets the outcome he wants and things proceed into the next game

Does he lose in the next game?

ViewtifulJoe posted...

That's my issue. It's hard to find a lot of things now. It's go no problem giving you musical arranges with no views that just went up earlier that day but the thing you're actually searching is a whole other matter.
Personally I think I'd go for the skip. It's only after becoming consistent at 1ccs I occasionally try to one-up my high score. Or if it's one of the games that gives lives in exchange for score, couldn't hurt.

You can't find it anymore? Yeah, I always take a quick screenshot or jot down links of any interesting vid with low views I see these days since there's no guarantee I can ever find it again.
Anyway, logically it does make sense to go for skips but I have a drive inside me to try to make myself catch spell cards. I think it helps me improve and I believe it's what they "canonically" do in other media. I'll only go for skips if I really really have trouble with it (like Shou's dumb spinning spell card although I actually attempted to capture that in my final runs).

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I can't agree with Nue's theme fitting for a stage 1 boss. It's not a high stakes fight or against someone particularly evil. It's an extra stage which means the fight taking a while is a given.
It's kind of like you came this far, might as well see the fight through. Song doesn't need to go fast because it's no longer a chase. It's just some random area in the sky and a fight against someone who's not really important but decided to show up anyway. I can enjoy that.

A stage one theme to me needs to sound like an adventure starting out small. This one sounds like an adventure winding down after the main threat's over and done with. It's less warming up for the real fights and more stretching and taking a breather.

I honestly think Nazrin has a more energetic and hype inducing theme than Nue lol. Sure, that does make sense on its own but every other prior Extra boss was much more fast-paced and strong. Extra bosses were definitely not meant to be a breather lol. Now that you mention it though, I guess it does fit Nue a bit since she's the easiest Extra boss... well, there's also Mokou and Ran.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

(Looks Junko's up on Lunatic real quick) That's rough. Maybe without the purple bullets coming in from the side that'd be a lot more manageable but as is, it looks like it's all quick reflexes.

A Pristine Danmaku Hell is well known for being THE hardest spell card in the series. The best pro players spent months solely dedicated to capturing that one spell card.

Fistfuls of fish day

Dimitri laughing at Alois's jokes are funny

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Surprised he could outspeed the final Assassin but not the first thief. Also missed three shots in a row.

Surprised to learn that the yellow skies in the monastery is normal. I thought it was my system messing up.

I didn't even realize the popularity poll finished lol

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Making her a Mortal Savant but I think she wants to be a Dark Knight or Gremory since she's gotten Magic level ups like 7 levels in a row. Including this magic only level up.
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Damn, Felix spitting facts at Dimitri. Even while feral, Dimitri doesn't talk back to him even though he talks back to Rodrigue. He must really respect Felix. Are we going to kill fleche?

I didn't know there could be teatime indoors. First time in my 3 playthroughs of doing teatime on every birthday to notice this.
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ViewtifulJoe posted...

It is still up. And if the newer covers sound different now I could give it a look some time.

Hartmann's Youkai girl, Emotional Skyscraper, and Idolatrize World are the ones I like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQyfgivAco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cHlZSEld-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuoN07wwOUg

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I think I just typed in Touhou 15 Normal 1cc.
I also saw video where someone skipped the fight entirely. Like he kind of timed a bomb before the boss spawned and skipped the whole fight.

Do you have a link? There are different results at varying times. And yeah, there are ways to cheese it but the fact that people opt to cheese it instead of fighting it normally shows its difficulty.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

It's more like the villain finally gets things to go the way he wants and the story is allowed to continue into the third game. Then it gets really garbled.

Does he lose?

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I don't think Shou's meant to be that graceful. She has a guy's name, has a tiger motif, instead of using her own abilities she uses one of the magic treasures' power and has her minion do the same thing. It all takes place in Makai while the opponent team is getting really close to succeeding in their mission too. I don't mind the song choice.
UFO's extra stage theme is good for being unique too. Feels faster paced than all the other extra themes and goes really well with the miniboss fight. With the others it's like you're at a temple or building and are just slowly moving to a certain room, with UFO it's the whole sky and you're going fast until you catch up with the blue light so that's cool.

Fair enough. But that still means I don't like the actual melody and composition of the song. Sakuya's EoSD battle has similar circumstances and I still like it a lot for having a distinct Touhou motif especially its final measures.

Yep, you described UFO's extra theme perfectly to me, which is why I'm a bit let down by Nue's theme since it slows down incredibly and has a blandish melody more fitting of a stage 1 boss imo.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Oh yeah that's a bad one. Lots of health, bombs don't clear the screen. I used to wonder if there were strategies where you could delay your shots to mess with the way the new projectiles spawn in and make it easier.

Honestly probably the hardest final card in the series besides 15's Junko.

C_Pain posted...

I don't know what they are aside from the name

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnVfknqnTuo

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Trickster animations a riot lmao
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Collection of growths
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Huh, I've never seen this child's text box before. This was right after defending the monastery so I'm not sure which village could've burned down.

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Barely living on.

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Killing the Death Knight

Ashe and Annette, two 22 year old adults scared of being locked in a dark tower lol

First time Giant Bird Crit
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ViewtifulJoe posted...

I can't remember who did the songs for those but it seems likely.
Gametal was okay even if covering songs from all sorts of games made Touhou uploads infrequent. I didn't go for the other two though. When they were new I liked RichaadEB's but the longer I listened, the more they all started to sound the same. Now I avoid them because I know what to expect.
There was this Chaosangel guy a while ago and he had a whole playlist of rock covers which was full of winners, it was a pretty good way of finding new circles.

Yeah, Gametal is more of a general coverer and he's only done a handful of 2hu songs. The ones he did do are great though. RichaadEB's covers actually variate quite a bit from the originals so you might want to check some of the newer ones out to see if your opinion on it might change. I'll have to check out the chaosangel guy. Is his channel still up?

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Looked it up. 15's ReimuA has two shot types so they don't force you to use homing shots, the guy in the video went into slow mode and fired down the middle. Beat the spellcard pretty fast.

Do you have a link that I could see?

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Oh well that works too. All the characters meet, final boss gets to look good in the process. Kind of reminds me of how Blazblue CS had all the arcade routes being the final boss constantly rerolling the timeline and getting the wrong results.

lol that sounds pretty funny. What happens to the final boss? Did the protagonists figure it out?

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I like Pocket Watch a lot. It's a weird sounding song. And you're in a weird place when it's playing. Not crazy about Luna Dial, but I have heard some arranges that up the intensity. Flowering Night is just one of those songs we've all accepted our fate on. It's going to be in every other Touhou video, like it or not.
Reisen's theme always makes me think of the fight. It's just kind of tedious and all the while the song's taking its time getting to that one part. It's not like you can sleepwalk through the fight either.
I think Shou's boss theme works best when you're new or trying for your first 1cc. It's going for a threatening sound and that works when that the big green spinning bars come out and you don't really understand how they work yet. Personally, I think Nazrin is the worst case of stage theme > boss theme in UFO.
While I was watching the 15 video from earlier I watched that game's stage 5 too. LOLK stage 5 > boss 5.

I just like Lunatic Eye's main riff a lot. I think it's very touhou-ey. She has a very good remix in ULIL too.
My problem with Shou is that her theme just sounds like a wild/generic trainer Pokemon battle. They're fine for Pokemon but I generally expect more elegant themes and catchier melodies from ZUN.
Lol UFO's stage 1 is one of the best stage 1 themes so that's to be expected. I could hear it in my head instantly despite having not heard it in years. I just went and checked Nazrin's theme but I don't think hers is that bad though. I think Shou and Nue's stages are much better than their boss themes. I really like Romance in the Sky while I've mentioned I'm not very fond of Nue's theme at all.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Yeah rainbow UFO invasion is messy, even with the OP exploding frogs. Props on getting the last one though, my eyes used to break after looking at it for too long.

I think Nue's final card isn't as eye breaking as Byakuren's final card. My memories are coming back and I recall actually getting a bit woozy trying an entire hour with the spell practice patch to capture it while I caught Nue's final card in 10 or so minutes.

Weird Gilbert growth. 20% speed and 15% lck. Actually didn't need the speed since I intend to use War Master bases to patch it up but was still worth noting.
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lol this trickster animation.
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