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Yeah, there's definitely been a lot of shady stuff surrounding Adams.

Null_Gain posted...

No one good really. I think the actress from Sex and the City might have been the least worst candidate there

That was for NY governor and was 5 years ago.

The last mayoral one had tons, but the main ones were

Democrat primary
Garcia - Backed mostly by rich white people from Manhattan. She was the progressive choice.
Wiley - Mostly backed by Brooklyn and Queens transplants
Adams - Backed mostly by Black, Hispanic and Asian people in East Brooklyn, The Bronx and Queens.
Yang - Mostly Asian people in Brooklyn and Queens.

Republican candidate
Silwa - Backed mostly by blue collar white people from Staten Island.

When it was finally Adams vs Silwa, most of the city obviously voted for Adams.

brestugo posted...

New Yorkers seem to fall for that trope more than anywhere else. It's what got Giuliani elected.

Fall for what? His voters all live in the high crime areas of NYC. The safest areas all went for Garcia or Wiley. The same just happened in Philly with Cherelle Parker as the new mayor.

Carljank posted...

No the fuck it doesn't lol

Yeah, it does. The median age is 38. Millions upon millions of people have arrived since 1965, and it has lowered the median age from 41 to 38.

In order to solve low birthrates, you would need to bring in more and more children, going up by 30% every generation. Right now, most people coming in are in their 20s-40s and plenty bring their elderly too. So you would only be kicking the can down the road by a couple of years before you would need to bring in even more people.

Eventually it becomes unsustainable and adds to bulging 20s-40s population which will not have enough to care for them when they reach old age.

Carljank posted...

Because we have some of our lowest birth rates in our Country's history and record high job vacancy?

Every country is heading that way and immigration doesn't solve low birth rates. It exacerbates the problem.

The job vacancies are in certain sectors, which means it would have to be highly selective and not just whoever, otherwise it would just cause more problems. By 2030, a third of jobs will be automated, so you also have to take that into account.

texanfan27 posted...

There should be a law that if a state moves migrants out of state, there is a signed agreement between the states and a plan for housing.

Texas doesn't provide housing. They've only sent about 2-3% of the overall amount that has arrived at the border in FY 2023.

Kai_Laguna posted...

After looking up a non-dirtbag source it's because, thanks to desantis's antics, all their shelters are near or at capacity and many of these people are looking at living on the streets during winter and giving them one way flights to anywhere of their choice is cheaper and more time efficient then trying to build more shelters before the weather gets dangerously cold.

Lmao, wtf. What source are you looking at that shows DeSantis is sending them? 15k were sent by Abbott and 115k came on their own.

We're full. Better luck next decade.

What I posted are not opinions. It's confirmed facts by Chicago politicians.

So then counter the facts I've laid out. You can't. I only take jabs at you because I've just been dumbfounded by the absolutely dumb shit you say. Like your moronic conspiracy theories 2-3 weeks ago. But what I say to you is not isolated, because I also lay out the actual facts.

One only has so much patience for dumb shit.

Why do you always sound like you're a fucking robot that's high on some shit? Is something wrong with you? You were literally spreading conspiracy theories like 2 weeks ago, so it's really hard to talk you seriously. Please, get help.

I never said Abbott is not sending people, so I'm not sure what your link is supposed to prove. Others definitely are sending including the federal government.

I picked Chicago because of its protections toward migrants and its a city that doesnt discriminate toward us, one man said. The other cities are less welcoming to us and overcrowded.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/10/06/ohare-airport-shelter-fills-up-as-more-migrants-come-to-chicago-by-plane/

Pacione-Zayas first got wind of the issue from migrants arriving at O'Hare this month who told Chicago officials that FEMA had paid for their tickets.

https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2023/09/13/immigrants-federal-funds-migrant-crisis-bus-tickets-chicago

Explaining why they attacked her does not mean I condone them attacking her. I made it clear it was wrong but that the violence over this is not gonna stop. Explaining why it's happening while condemning it is not victim blaming. And she does not represent what they want sinces she's all ACAB and the Asian and Latino community has made it clear they want cops around. This is just the straw breaking the camel's back because they've been pissed at her for a while.

Brighton Park is considered impoverished. It doesn't matter if some people are worried about property values. This is not limited to only this area, since black people have been going way harder in a all southern inner city areas. If you actually lived in Chicago, you would know this.

cjsdowg posted...

Chicago is a using money to help the immigrants that Republicans are shipping into the city. Different groups of the people from the town have been getting upset with this. And protesting. This seems like some groups are doing more than just protesting. Which they should not be doing.

There hasn't been any proof anybody but Abbott is bussing any significant amount of people when it comes to Republicans. Even then people coming into Chicago are not all being sent by him.

Migrants are not stupid. They know the benefits and sanctuary policies to places like Chicago and NYC and have been saying such in interviews. Many are just coming on their own. Many are also being sent by the Democratic mayors of El Paso and Denver, who are also overwhelmed. NGOs also buying them free tickets. And now they're also getting an influx flying in at O'Hare, paid by FEMA.

This particular protest was mostly Asian people with some Latinos over yet another migrant shelter in an already ignored and impoverished neighborhood. They were mad at her because she didn't tell anyone and tried to act like a couple of tweets and visiting a few houses was enough notice. Of course, they shouldn't have gotten violent, but expect more of this. Same is happening with the black community there as well.

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As it explains, the numbers have gone up because the number of people overall coming in has gone up. Especially from all over the world, including the US itself. The point wasn't necessarily about it going up though.

The point is that the ones getting caught are able to be identified because they're already on a watchlist, and not all terrorists are on watchlists, nor are all crossings encountered. It shows that they are indeed making attempts.

creativerealms posted...

You realize them getting caught proves me right? There is no proof any have snuck in. This is proof that our border is secure and potential terrorists trying to sneak in get caught. I did do my research and that was part of it.

Thank you for helping me.

No, you claimed none come, but they do and can be apprehended, but not every crossings leads to an intervention. The border is 2000 miles long and coyotes know how to get in without getting caught. These are just people that tried to walk through an entry point, and were identified due to previous links. The fact that they are making attempts shows that some will get by.

It would only make sense if Border Patrol had a near 100% catch and identify rate and caught almost every single crossing, which is just not true. For example, a few weeks ago, they found some rancher housing tons of undocumented at his ranch in Texas not that far from the border. The people were never encountered at the border.

creativerealms posted...

There has never been proof that terrorists illegally come to America though Mexico. No matter how many times republicans fearmonger it.

Why do so many on here make so many confident claims without doing a lick of research?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/number-people-terror-watchlist-stopped-mexico-us-border-risen-rcna105095

Trump supporters are the ones that keep crying nobody wants to work anymore and that there's a labor shortage, when it's really a wage shortage and people need to be paid a living wage to afford things.

They're usually also the ones that complain about welfare queens. So I guess potd is admitting he's a Trump supporter.

potdnewb posted...

nyc is not the entire us your still being myopic

I gave you a well working example that refutes your OP that Americans will not work dirty, hard and risky jobs when paid well.

Like dude, you think people wanting a living wage is being lazy and entitled and somehow them being on welfare because they can't afford things is a negative. You're not worth taking seriously.

The_shibe posted...

please PLEASE show me those 100k a year orange picking jobs, by all means go ahead

DrizztLink posted...

He can't, but he is quite good with cherry-picking examples if that's acceptable.

I'm not sure what you mean? What point are you even trying to make here. Be clear.

The_shibe posted...

again, the mah jerbs crowd would not take those jobs even if they were paid much more.

This isn't about a specific crowd.

60% of sanitation workers in NYC are white dudes. A lot of themselves are Trump supporters that come from Staten Island.

They start off at about $50k and easily hit $100k in about 4 years. Tons of benefits and a pension. 100% of the DSNY are legal Americans. Sanitation here is an extremely dirty and risky job. Something like the 4th riskiest job overall. They all do it because they're paid well.

potdnewb posted...

since most of those jobs require actual tax paperwork they actually make the same as anyone else in those positions
the concept that they make less and work in terrible conditions is a by in large falsity and used to justify why americans wont do those jobs when in truth its because those jobs are too hard and too physical for mcdonalds slurping couch sitting chain smoking americans to do
capitalism also created a stigma imparted upon the younger generations that manual labor jobs are menial and provide no benefit to society which is a huge lie

Incorrect. See above.

potdnewb posted...

your point is highly myopic
farms, hotels, kitchens, janitorial services, construction, painters, landscapers, etc jobs all over the country filled by people who came to this country to get away from terrible living conditions and who work hard to make their lives and the lives of other members of our society better but they are the poison and not the lazy entitled americans living off of welfare complaining about no jobs to have

it not capitalist bs it is the facts

Because they accept way lower wages and horrible working conditions. That's why they're working there. Capitalists are taking advantage of them.

Imagine calling people lazy and entitled for wanting a proper wage enough to afford the insane housing crisis the entire Western world is facing. Why do you think these people are even on welfare? For the fuck of it?

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Is he talking about what the NYC Health Commissioner said?

https://nypost.com/2023/04/16/half-of-migrants-piling-into-nyc-not-vaxxed-for-polio-top-doc-warns/

A startling 50% of migrants streaming into the Big Apple are not vaccinated against the contagious and potentially deadly poliovirus, city Health Commissioner Ashwin Vasan recently revealed as he urged doctors to help prevent a public health emergency, The Post has learned.

Vasan also said the new migrants come from, or pass through, countries with high rates of infectious tuberculosis and noted thereve been outbreaks of chickenpox in shelters housing the newcomers.

More than 50,000 people have come to New York City (NYC) in the past year shortly after crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. As more people arrive and many make NYC their home, the scale and scope of need continues to grow, Vasan said in an eight-page letter, dated April 11, sent to physicians and other health care providers. A copy was obtained by The Post.

I am writing now to underscore how critical it is that health care providers take a wide range of considerations into account when working with people who are seeking asylum The scope of this letter represents the scale of the need. It is incumbent upon us as a welcoming city to comprehensively evaluate and meet these needs.

Vasan said screening and vaccinating migrants for diseases and viruses thatve been kept in check in the city is a top priority.
Vaccination rates for certain diseases are low in some of the most common countries of origin, with rates hovering around 50% for polio as an example, the commissioner said.

Lol, I highly doubt this is what he's referring to, but yeah, the increasing rate of tuberculosis in this city is very alarming. The issue is that there aren't medical facilities on the border checking for any of this. So many are not vaccinated and the city is unable to handle that. There was a report yesterday talking about how difficult it is to control.

potdnewb posted...

immigrants do all the jobs americans wont but immigrants are the problem wtf so much wrong with trump

HylianFox posted...

This is what I hate about the "dey tuk r jerbs!" argument

Yeah, they took the jobs you didn't want you spoiled fuck

This is capitalist BS. Plenty of Americans do these job, just look at sanitation in NYC.

The issue has always been not enough pay and benefits. The reason it's not an issue with sanitation in NYC is because they're paid very well.

bigblu89 posted...

Unless I'm reading it wrong, the non-Canada, Non-Mexico overstay rates are in the HUNDREDS of thousands.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/2/AAafKOAAE59o.png

Yes, which is included in the 850k total.

streamofthesky posted...

It is refreshing seeing the stupidity of "sanctuary cities", "open borders", "immigration is always a good thing" types to eat crow.
I just don't get it, in 2020 Biden was one of the only Democrats to NOT support open borders, but then apparently went left on it once in office?

In any case, trying to "protect" thousands of miles of border is pointless and a waste of money past a basic level of security, and a wall is especially stupid. If people really want to reduce the number of illegal immigrants in this country, go after the employers and throw them in jail. Once the supply dries up from fear of prison and there's no trabajo, the immigrants will want to leave on their own, just like during each economic crisis.
Could even offer free bus trips to the border and no criminal charges if they willingly turn themselves in.

But no one ever does that, b/c they like the cheap exploitable labor, but want to sound like they give a shit about poor people having their labor value diluted, so they attack the immigrants instead.

While that would help, you have to take into account the 12-20 million possible undocumented, not to mention cash is still king in many areas like NYC.

Unknown5uspect posted...

Yo lemme get the data on that.

bigblu89 posted...

Thats widely known by anyone who does even the smallest bit of research, but Fox News cant talk about that aspect because theres tens of thousands of white Europeans that are here illegally because of that, and its easier for them to blame brown people.

Except it's not true anymore.

850k total overstays in 2022, which is the highest on record. Most of it coming largely from Venezuela, Mexico, Columbia, Brazil and China.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-07/23_0707_FY22_FY23_CBP_Integrated_Entry_Exit_Overstay_Report.pdf &ved=2ahUKEwi43f2E892BAxXSrokEHTuFB9sQFnoECHYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0rQVUt7DpT2iBKRVCCoHFh

For border crossings, from October 2022 to December 2022, 860k were encountered with 20% sent back.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-december-2022-monthly-operational-update

After expulsion amounts.

FY 2021 700k.
FY 2022 1.5 million.
FY 2023 will probably be 2.4 million.

This is ignoring all the people who never get caught crossing and choose to just stay undocumented rather than seeking asylum.

Smallville posted...

Did you guys know this, just read that the majority of illegal immigrants that get into the u.s. are people that overstay their visas, they are not people who cross the border illegally and has been that way for over a decade. But possibly most americans think differently.

That's mostly old data. The amount has varied between a yearly 500k to 750k in the past decade.

There's 2-3 million yearly crossings occuring now the past 2-3 years, with only 20% returns. September has broken all the records and are at 10k a day.

Wasn't really expecting this, but they have to make attempts or act like they are. Even Hochul in NY is now calling for border patrol to be quadrupled, since the whole thing is completely unsustainable.

CobraGT posted...

btw this is an easy one to read because it only tracks drought instead of all the other factors

https://news.stonybrook.edu/homespotlight/research-predicts-massive-increase-in-drought-induced-migration/

No one is claiming there aren't other reasons people might migrate.

Seriously man, you're so bad at this that it's fucking embarrassing.

CobraGT posted...

Like the study you gave? I just gave a study like that.

If you cared you would have found them as I did.

My dude, the Biden administration is saying this. If you have studies countering their claims, provide it. Don't say the data shows otherwise and not provide shit. You haven't posted anything but unsubstantiated conspiracies.

CobraGT posted...

OK you are saying it. Biden is saying it. The data shows otherwise.

Show me the studies then.

CobraGT posted...

Moreover the conspiracy theory only needs the kind of permit that employers apply for. Since the big auto companies donate to GOP, they likely could get them. From my point of view it is just a compelling hypothesis that Big 3 Auto set this up. I am not losing money over it. It may just be that a majority of the migrants overall are Venezuelans because not being able to sell means not being able to buy.

Yeah, you're right. This is unsubstantiated nonsense with nothing backing it up. Worker visas are an entirely different thing.

I'm constantly switching between the several NYC accents (BX, Queens, Brooklyn) and most people in other areas can immediately tell. Even people close by in Long Island, Upstate and NJ.

What claim? If anybody can walk in and get a work permit, millions would want to come here. Yes, things are definitely way better here than many of these countries. This is not even my claim. It's what the Biden administration is saying and I'm sure they know better than some guy peddling conspiracies.

60-80% of asylum seekers are rejected because most of them are economic migrants that just want a better life. That's not eligible for asylum and just clogs it up for actual people seeking asylum.

They will not be able to afford NYC whether they work legally or not. You need to make 40x rent to be able to rent in NYC. They will still be dependent on social services and just be poor like other people already living in poverty in NYC, now having to compete with them with jobs, housing and social services.

Asylum seekers can't apply for a work permit till they apply for asylum. You have a year after you enter to apply for asylum, then 6 months for the work permits after that.

I know people are trying to fast track it, but the Biden administration said no since millions would then come.

cjsdowg posted...

So does anyone think this situation helps the democrats ?

In NY? Not really. Most are really gonna vote D again anyway.

Nationally? It's gonna be one of the biggest points of the next election.

Guide posted...

Is there a space between "parts of New York are having trouble sustaining the immigrant influx" and "MAGAMAGAMAGA" that I can perhaps find a seat in

No. What was that famous line Anakin said?

cjsdowg posted...

The Mayor of Chicago is not telling residents to make Sacrifices.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-brandon-johnson-plan-for-migrants-tents-0923-20230908-bnimhag6sbauvh5xesx7bym4h4-story.html

Yeah, it's pretty wild. Black people here in NYC haven't been as outraged as Chicago, but it's starting to get there. More and more minorities and immigrants are starting to protest.

ProfessorKukui posted...

France come take back your statue, 'cause New York just shat all over it.

Unlimited of anything always ends up with negative returns.

divot1338 posted...

A single city on an island.

Its not like they can just be bussed out to the suburbs. There are geographical restrictions that place limits on what is [financially] possible in NYC.

They're definitely trying to bus them outside the city, but even those places are full and some like Long Island are just outright refusing. Only state owned stuff can honestly be used outside the city and they're all full.

B18Champ posted...

New York should have elected Lee Zeldin instead of the creepy woman with phosphorescent white teeth

Nah, chill. Though with how close the race was, people actually understand why Hochul doesn't want to help, especially with more relocation efforts. It would probably hurt her re-election.

It's pretty good, but too salty.

TonyKojima posted...

NYC needs to just bus them back to Texas.

They'd just bus them back and it will all turn into a back and forth waste of money.

The point Texas was even making was that the state can't handle the influx and these things should not be the burden of states. They're getting thousands of people a month. The federal government needs to step in, with like even just increasing the judges to speed things up. This will help legit ones get in, with the bogus ones sent back.

X8Azazel8X posted...

The delusion continues to grow strong with this one.

And Adams is using his budget which is why he needs to cut spending by 5 percent. You just don't know how government works.

InfinityMonster posted...

He doesn't have one because he seems to think money the state makes through taxes that would be used by the state for their own problems, should be used on this. Because I guess they're red states and it's their responsibility to handle a national level situation for some reason.

HornyLevel posted...

NYC's population is 8.5 million though. 110k seems small.

They cost $10 million a day and there's no more room.

Inohira posted...

There are too many. Shelters and hotels are being overwhelmed and after the eviction moratorium ended it's not like there haven't been enough local homeless.

States honestly shouldn't have to accept buses of people from other states. If a country was trying to bus random people to other countries that'd be war.

Most of that 8.5 mil is in apartments or houses.

Unless NY just starts offering free housing the homeless issue isn't the same.

The funny thing is that NYC has been bussing people all over the state in the same way as Texas. Some areas don't even know about it till they arrive because a shady ass company called DocGo is handling it now. A company that was handling COVID vaccines, which has suddenly turned into a migrant relocation company with no prior experience and is being investigated for fraud.

Once inside the US, you can't stop someone from moving around the whole country. Even the federal government is buying people tickets to here, so nothing can really be done.

Also yeah, the homeless population here is already 70k. So we basically have 180k homeless people right now and it's only growing.

HornyLevel posted...

I'm confused. Aren't the migrants getting free housing?

Can you provide a source for this? I've read several articles saying all of the US is having a crisis and nothing about Texas or Florida having billions in surplus.

He doesn't have one because he seems to think money the state makes through taxes that would be used by the state for their own problems, should be used on this. Because I guess they're red states and it's their responsibility to handle a national level situation for some reason.

Sega9599 posted...

I don't know. The mayor said he needs help. I think he should get it. Maybe ease the congestion on the city by spreading asylum seekers around other states? I'm not informed enough to know what will definitely work.

Because the rest of the state has horrible infrastructure outside Long Island.

They are being sent up there and most of the areas are also already full. Also, many areas are outright refusing them.

Uh huh.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Immigration MADE NYC what it is today, this is pure stupidoty.

Those people went through absolute hell, from disease, horrid living conditions and near slave labor. NYC didn't give them any benefits and it took some of them generations to get out of it. Some are still suffering to today because of the lack of generational wealth that was built up.

X8Azazel8X posted...

It matters to people who actually want to know why there is a crisis, who caused it, and why it continues to be an issue.

Factually the answer is DaRacist and Idiot

Nope.

Repeating yourself when you've been bitched out for lying several times is a bad look. DeRacist and Idiot? Cringe. Are you 5? Lmao.

Moving on. It doesn't matter who started what. Word got out that NYC provides free housing, food, spending money, phones and healthcare.

People came and continue to come in droves. News media was going crazy when it started, so they probably helped inform even more people. It's now reached unsustainable levels. If anybody wants to discuss that and ways in how we can mitigate this, I'm free to.

X8Azazel8X posted...

The 97k is an estimation.

The crisis began when they sent them and at no time before was there a described crisis.

Either way this over all number of over 100 thousand is an estimation and didn't begin until they initiated it.

We don't know why the influx of supposed number that weren't sent continues

So far the only known factor that made the crisis what it is is from the initial and manufactured crisis of DaRacis and Idiot.

These are facts.

DeSantis is not even involved in this.

Dude, stop trolling. None of those are facts.

I'm surprised 261 people are this fucking delusional. Yeah, everything every politician is saying using those very numbers in NYC are all misled and lying.

X8Azazel8X knows what's up, even though he doesn't live in NYC.

X8Azazel8X posted...

Again something else you have trouble defining.....

The only thing dishonest is pretending the migrant crisis began before they were bussed there. Show me an article that shows there was a crisis before then.

And I already addressed it like 50 times. They did aid in stressing things, but they're now irrelevant because 97k other people have arrived on their own.

You have to be trolling at this point.

X8Azazel8X posted...

When did the crisis start again? Yeah those dates are very relevant because you know it affects "fucking yesterday".

Again because your links don't explicitly say they are estimations don't mean they aren't. And the crisis began when Texas and Florida sent the migrants. This is a fact.

The reason its a crisis is because of this. This is a fact.

Here's the link to the NY Times. The contact us link is on the bottom if you didn't hear the first time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/us/politics/gop-migrants-blue-cities.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

@ me when they respond. When you need more links, let me know.

Also, lmao @ Florida. None of your links even mention them.

You're being dishonest and you know it.

My dude, links from 2022 are irrelevant when I'm posting links from fucking yesterday.

Did you start emailing them yet?

You can start with the NY Times since I already posted the link and there's a contact us link on the botton of the page.

I can find all the others for you to email.

Because some unknown guy I've never seen and likely a 261er, is basically peddling conspiracy theories saying that some of the biggest outlets in the US are misleading their readers because they themselves have been misled, so the bar is gonna be high on me believing anything you're saying.

X8Azazel8X posted...

I pointed out what is there.

Your link gives estimation on the movement of migrants with out explicitly saying it.

Mine makes it clear that they are indeed estimations.

Your link doesn't include closed cases that explicitly refutes 80 percent being denied in my link.

If you find this to be conspiracy theory then....again you have yet another word you have poorly defined in your head canon of how you perceive the world.

That's not the conspiracy theory I was referring to. What you're saying is a possibility, not a fact.

I was talking about all that dumb shit about Abbott and how every news sources in the city and the mayor got fooled. Have you started emailing them and posting the responses yet?

As I said, I'm not entertaining conspiracy theories from you. Not even gonna read your sloppy post because it's obvious you're not listening.

Hit up NY Times, CBS, NBC, The Gothamist, Daily News, The City, Hell Gate and the fucking mayor and ask all of them why they've believed fake numbers and are reporting it as facts.

Let me know how they respond because you're basically saying they just believed something that's fake and now pushing it as fact, calling into question the credibility of all these outlets.

This conversation is over since a good portion of it is predicated on some unsubstantiated conspiracy theory about everyone lying and being misled. None of your links prove shit.

Every news source in September is saying it's 13k. Abbott didn't start posting these numbers till a few weeks ago.

Old ass links going "a lot" and "many" don't prove shit.

"This is all really caused by Texas" is not really a valid point of concern even though it has added to the stress because even if they did absolutely nothing, 97k+ would have still come here because everybody knows NYC is the only place on the entire planet that is required to house you due to a right to shelter law meant to help homeless people from the 30s.

If you honestly think Abbott is the one to tell them this, then you need to go outside, touch some grass, and then meet some actual migrants. It's all over social media in these countries and all the cartels know about it.

Honestly, if you don't live here, this doesn't affect you, so obviously it's easy to say "help them no matter the cost". Just stop unless you can provide some proof you're putting up your own money to help them instead of expecting others to.

"May haves" are meaningless for confirmed numbers of acceptances. A bit over 60% declines is still the official number.

SUNYs and CUNYs have lots of issues but they're still some of the best in the entire country education wise.

X8Azazel8X posted...

So you don't know what irrelevant means then. I'm the one that pointed out Texas is mostly doing it you are the one that said they are also your strange and innaccurate use of "irrelevant".

It's only a bit over 10% of the amount from Texas. It's irrelevant to the issue NYC is facing and you're wasting your time bringing it up.

X8Azazel8X posted...

I changed nothing. I said this:

You literally said NYC doesn't get the funding Florida and Texas get. A surplus is not funding. That's money for the state. Again, this is a federal issue. Even NY State is not funding much and Hochul told Adams to basically go fuck himself.

Read the entire topic next time. Also, Texas and the entire country is facing a housing shortage, so I'm not sure what nonsense about surpluses you're referring to or why border state would be responsible even if it was a surplus.

X8Azazel8X posted...

I don't give a fuck. Abbot isn't going to be accurate about that. The official statement is this:

X8Azazel8X posted...

Abbot is not a reliable source. The more credible source says a large portion is Texas and most of the trouble they are having is from Texas.

If you have a source saying abbot's number of sending them to NYC is "irrelevant" like you are saying well then post it.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to entertain conspiracy theories. Abbott has claimed that amount and the entire city has bought it. Here is the New York Times confirming this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/us/politics/gop-migrants-blue-cities.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

If you have an actual source confirming the opposite and that every news company and the mayor have been misled, post it. Otherwise it's complete BS.

Your "more credible source" simply doesn't exist.

X8Azazel8X posted...

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Jordans office pointed The Daily Caller News Foundation to statistics on the number of asylum grants from the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR). Immigration courts granted asylum in 20 percent of cases in Fiscal Year (FY) 2017 and 17 percent of cases in FY 2016.
Immigration courts did not explicitly deny asylum in all of the other 80 percent to 83 percent of cases. They denied 34 percent in FY 2017 and 23 percent in FY 2016, but closed the rest of the cases because, among other reasons, the asylum-seeker never showed up or the applicant withdrew the claim. Some of the individuals in the closed cases could have gotten other forms of humanitarian relief or deportation deferrals.

The government does not publish an overall asylum grant rate that includes both affirmative asylum and defensive asylum. Alex Nowrasteh, a senior immigration policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, told TheDCNF that there is no data tracking individual asylum-seekers over time as they move through the system and across agencies.

"Under the new Biden administration asylum seekers are seeing greater success rates in securing asylum. While asylum denial rates had grown ever higher during the Trump years to a peak of 71 percent in FY 2020, they fell to 63 percent in FY 2021. Expressed another way, success rates grew from 29 percent to 37 percent under President Biden."

Eramir posted...

Are any of them Native American? Then dont complain about migrants

You paying for it?

Tenlaar posted...

Is this an "immigrants are likely to be pedophiles" thing or just the classic "men can't be trusted around children...because they're likely to be pedophiles" thing?

There have been issues at the shelters in Manhattan of fighting, sexual assault, prostitution, illegal mopeds everywhere and catcalling/harassing people walking by.

So it's more like "500 poorly vetted people"

Most people wouldn't be ok with hundreds of any men that have no jobs and need to chill around all day.

X8Azazel8X posted...

Its not irrelevant since it helped to ratchet up the practice of sending them to NYC. Florida has the largest population of cubans and other migrants that came here legally since the 70's. So no its not irrelevant in the least.

100% irrelevant. Florida has sent a few hundred at best and it's mostly Texas that's been doing this.

X8Azazel8X posted...

Texas has an excess budget of showing it to be at least $27 billion, and possibly as high as $35 billion. They haven't or refuse to use and that many there use as their personal slush funds. So they have more than enough you don't know what you are talking about.

X8Azazel8X posted...

Again surplus of billions in the double digits that is likely much higher than reported. They don't have the right because they refuse the right to house and opt to have the right to repel them instead. Housing market surplus where people are complaining billions should be given back to home owners.

The state's surplus is not for other people. You changed the goalpost from funding to money the state has. This is a national issue. Not state. They have zero responsibility to spend that money if the feds are not helping.

X8Azazel8X posted...

They are approximated number. Abbot refuses to give them an accurate roster or notice of arrival to help coordinate. So yeah he is the biggest part of the problem and making it impossible to adequately coordinate. Nyc already has a housing crisis before he sent them which he knew and did on purpose.

He says its around 13,000 and we all know he can be relied on for accuracy right?

Abbott has been personally bragging about the numbers weekly and both CBSNews and Eric Adams have confirmed it along with tons of other people involved. There is zero reason to downplay the numbers when the entire point is bragging about "look at how many we're sending"

The official number is 13k, meaning the rest of the 97k came on their own. NYC is one of the most well cities on Earth, so stop acting like these people don't know about it and don't want to come here.

X8Azazel8X posted...

You mean for legal migrants who came seeking asylum under threat of death or crippling bodily harm? Heaven forbid we assume the party of pro life, family values, would might want to grant asylum to brown or black migrants. That's just going way too far

60-80% of claims are rejected. So this is all BS. Most of the people are coming from places that are just poor and don't have serious issues like that.

X8Azazel8X posted...

NYC doesn't get the same funding that places like Texas or Florida get to house, process, staffing, placement, etc. And Congress aka the assholes(republicans) who are blocking any immigration reform, or funding to give NYC for it are purposely trying to stir that up.

What I don't understand is this is information that is repeated and available to look up any time yet people still are falling for this b.s. stunt they pulled.

Adams should be repeating it more than talking about how it's destroying NYC, but how many times can you repeat the same thing with a large swath of people remaining ignorant and refusing to protest the actual core issue.

Florida is not a border state and has barely sent anybody here, so it's irrelevant to bring up. Texas also doesn't get that much additional funding when considering the exponential amount they get compared to NYC. It's the border that's funded by the federal government. All other aid goes to the NGOs down there. Not Texas itself.

Texas has only sent 13k as of today, so Texas is irrelevant here when the amount here is 110k. Texas also does not have a right to shelter law like NYC does. They are immediately released after the initial stuff. It's the NGOs that help with their housing.

It's fine to blame the Republicans since they're complicit as well, but most of the reforms that the Democrats have wanted have always included millions in amnesty, which they know that no Republican is gonna ok.