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GranolaPanic posted...

TC, you didnt answer the questions that I asked here.

Didn't see, sorry. Your comment about democrats not saving GOP from their own screwups I assume is about McCarthy getting removed? I still disagree about that. McCarthy was pushing a moderate stance when extremists revolted against him.

Partisan politics is the only reason he was removed. If democrats cared more about their country they would have voted to keep him in. They knew full well it would be weeks of gridlock and now a more right-leaning speaker is in place. All dems had to do was side with the country and not party.

But, they wanted to kneecap the GOP. Doesn't make them better in my mind, sorry.

I'm not saying, once again, republicans are the "good" party. Both play their games. But there is a lot of blind love for democrats I don't understand.

Both parties are, in some ways arguably, abusers of this country. Extremist republicans are the "physical" abusers--removing physical rights or intimidating minorities.

But democrats are the emotional abusers. They are very much the party of censorship and doxxing. I think there's a lot of nuance here for interpretation and disagreement but generally I'm reasonably certain that most of the media does in fact lean left, whereas fox news just leans very, very right. Even MSM like CBS at the national level, by virtue of their reporting, I view as essentially left.

Which is 100% why they were collectively mad about Elon buying twitter--stiffling conservative voice is a key element of the democratic platform. I imagine many of you will disagree, but....just look at what's been done to him/twitter incessantly since he purchased it. Elon...."liked" a post...about someone posting an opinion....and it just became a vehicle for more rebellion against him.

The phrasing around this as well is highly inflammatory. e.g., CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/business/elon-musk-reveals-his-actual-truth/index.html

Media has a highly inflammatory reaction to anything that goes against their platform.

To be clear I'm not even staking a position here, I'm just pointing out an example of an attempt to censor opinions that come from a rightward view. When you remove the ability to express opinions without consequence you're an abuser--the MO of the left.

Trump and biden, regardless of age, cannot be compared. Unfortunately I was suspended by someone who is not a doctor when I gave a medical opinion of Biden. So I do not see trump and biden as the same even if age is the same, but cannot comment further.

How is Haley not moderate? She is okay with states having abortion rights and supports both ukraine AND israel and champions diplomacy. What is your point of just attaching her name to trump? Seriously. What is the reason?

Will_VIIII posted...

The complete lack of basic awareness to make this post.

Enough about me. Out of curiosity, what is it you do for a living? What is your socioeconomic background? I'm trying to figure out how you are molded to believe the things you say. I've been transparent enough about myself.

Looking over your posts, you seem to be an extrinsic mindset kind of person, versus myself as intrinsic.

e.g., I get the sense your general attitude towards life is things happen to you and you react. Myself, I am very intrisic--I make the outcome I want happen. At first glance this is similar but leads to very different outcomes, a concept well studied.

My new goal is to be chief medical officer of a major insurance company. I'm going to make that happen despite no connection to the industry whatsoever. I'm doing all the research on this I can and have already taken a major career shift for this outcome.

This result will be regardless of how many silver spoons I hold-it is the outcome I seek.

Will_VIIII posted...

Right. An example of privilege

Being an electrician--a job you get by trade school/apprenticeship by just applying and handing over 300ish bucks and can mature into an entire career if desired and is absolutely not competitive whatsoever--is privilege

I just want you to think about that

god damn, that's a powerful disconnect I can't even argue.

So anyone with any job is privilege? I'm not sure how much you know about being an electrician but it's not a road to wealth. It feels like your viewpoint everyone is either unemployed or millionaires.

I guess this is a point I'm just going to digress. Feel free to label me a child of privilege if that empowers you so. I've fallen out of contact with everyone I worked with but they'd have massive, massive belly laughs if they knew someone thought I was living a privileged life back then.

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I dont know what to tell you. My father had a trade job. I did his job. Then I did it full time working for a university for the tuition benefits. Somebody who is younger and more in tune with the market can chime in but 20 years ago it was pretty easy to be an electrician. You just...talked to one.

I am an example of what happens if you really want something and you can make it happen. That's why I harp on accountability so much and bemoan anyone asking for handouts. I became the change I wanted.

And life became better*

*eventually. Had to leave clinical side first but without covid it might have been workable

Evthean posted...

So because youve become jaded and cynical by facing the realities of humanity - a fact which you should have been prepared for knowing you were going into medicine

One of the very few posts in this topic that nearly got to me.

It is literally not possible to know what medicine is until you do it. Especially under private equity.

No amount of shadowing or "I have a friend"isms or 'I worked as a tech once" could ever give you the insight of an attending physician at a major center under economic and medical collapse.

The experience is bad enough I know the doctors in Gaza will need therapy for the rest of their lives. No physician on earth has ever had to practice like that, to my knowledge anyway

I assume you are not a doctor (non-dermatologist)

DrizztLink posted...

Weirdly enough, I know all kinds of doctors who haven't apparently turned themselves into sociopathic morons as a survival mechanism.

Like, most of them.

People hide illness well. No one in the group I worked in actively ran around telling people they weren't okay.

But coincident to this the divorce rate was 70%? Drug and alcohol addiction was endemic and the ones that weren't divorced were just fucking nurses*

None of this suggests a healthy mind.

*There were definitely a few (like less than 10%) that didn't seem to be involved in any of this. I'm unclear of the explanation

Will_VIIII posted...

What happened with roe v Wade thanks to conservatives again?

Roe v wade was never a permanent solution. It was like the sort-of-statehood like Taiwan, just hanging in the breeze until pushed.

Long term even democrats agree it was good, at least anyone with a mind for strategy. They won't say it out in the open for obvious reasons. But think about it: look at what has happened already. Abortion is now constitutionally protected in several states. As obstetric Healthcare dwindles in banned states (with a specific eye towards places like idaho) even the backers of the ban are starting to see the consequences.

1/5 of registered Republicans in ohio voted for issue 1. That's a powerful statement. Even the state legislature is spewing nonsense while still coming to terms with reality.

The long term consequence is a social shift in the republican moderate wing and likely an ejection of Maga in the distant future. I acknowledge there are short term pains for many but this transition was never calculated by either side to be painless. Unless you have a better (AND WORKABLE) solution? No federal law would yet have support so don't mention that.

megamanfreakXD posted...

dont bother. I accepted the fact that people wont truly understand unless they work in the field. They think doctors go out to play golf everyday after their 9-5 job.

Rofl

Well they're 15% right. My dermatologist buddy more or less lives by his own admission that life. Benefit of private ownership and minimal medicaid population.

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We are very far apart here. You know what's predatory? Vacation time share scams that are literally impossible to get out of.

Sorry, I just don't think loans are. All the consequences are spelled out in legalize as well as a bolded summary written at an 8th grade level. Seems like people just aren't happy with their choices.

You've never once addressed the FACT college is neither mandatory nor unaffordable (ie, pay as you go or work for it like I did)

iirc megamanfreak got hit for saying some nasty shit not long after TC got suspended in his topic about Vivek. It's really not that CE hates doctors, but the people here claiming to be doctors always seem to trip over themselves to post the worst shit imaginable

Not a coincidence. I'm too busy to write this up now but there have been soooooo many comments about empathy between this and other topics.

See the worst imaginable shit, say the worst imaginable shit. Over time you realize...world wasn't quite what you thought it was, especially with the right exposure.

Fresh out of med school, one of the first attending I worked with did a thing that didn't really make sense until much later.

We had a really, really bad case. Made worse by a patient parent being intentionally deceptive and it resulted in his infant dying horrifically and needlessly.

Afterward he gave me a post-it note for my notebook. He wrote on it, "nightingaleMD's soul."

Then he tore off a small piece and gave me the rest. He told me every time something like this happens he's going to take another piece from me until I have "nothing left."

It was dark humor but it had a point.

See the worst imaginable shit, post the worst imaginable shit.

Or just keep my mouth shut and watch everyone be sunshine and daisies.

Not around much this weekend due to holiday/life stuff. Some posts stand out to me more than others:

Will_VIIII posted...

Also, why should the burden of the Olive Branch be on the Democrats after 1/6 and the continued misinformation they push regarding the 2020 election?

Because they represent the country, not a party. "One side did wrong so other side can do whatever" is the goal here? I've never said the republican party as a whole is admirable, I've just said I lean conservative. But putting democrats up on a pedestal after watching them contribute to gridlocking is confusing. They knew what they were doing.

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You've never answered my question so its hard to communicate with you about this. I'll try again. WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?

Seriously. No sarcasm at all.

So a 17 or 18 year old doesn't understand loans. Not their fault. Arguable, though there is a slight point that an 18 year old is an adult.

But its inexcusable to not fault the parents co signing loans. No 18 year old doesn't have a co signer.

Let me ask you the question differently:

If I don't understand the terms of my mortgage, do I get my house for free? Will government just buy me a car if I don't understand car payments? Why is there such an exception for loans where ignorance is considered a valid excuse?

I'm not going to disagree there are for-profit incentives with the industry. But society is fundamentally for profit. Very little business is charity business and for the nth time, college isn't mandatory.

Or do it my way and pay as you go (possible with undergrad, med school not so much)

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And parents have no role in discussion? No accountability for them, either? No one is responsible???

Lonestar2000 posted...

FYI the TC got banned from ETI for saying he would deny medical care to minorities.

Criticism of the Healthcare system combined with sarcasm mixed with people not knowing how to even respond to a discussion of a broken system is another interpretation of that sentence

So I don't use sarcasm anymore

https://www.yahoo.com/news/poll-a-majority-of-democrats-want-new-candidate-to-challenge-biden-in-2024-primary-100031348.html

Apropos of this discussion. Even dems don't want him to run. Why is he running? Why is this being allowed?

GranolaPanic posted...

The GOP has the House majority. It isnt the responsibility of the Democrats to save them from their own stupidity and infighting.

As mentioned, grouping people into one large stereotype is inaccurate. There are moderates in the republican party and they were sabotaged by extremists. Unfortunately our system rewards extremism in the primaries (seen on BOTH SIDES) so moderate voices are getting pushed out.

GranolaPanic posted...

McCarthy isnt a moderate. He blamed the Democrats after they reached a deal to avoid the shutdown.

If you want an actual moderate, you would support Joe Biden because thats what he is.

He'd right though. He was trying to bridge both parties and was punished by Maga and finished off by dems

Also, I could never, ever support an 80 year old man for president. As one comedian says, you don't order for the table and leave before the check.
That is a fair, legitimate and valid concern. If you can't fly a commercial airline that old you shouldn't be allowed to run governments

Will_VIIII posted...

Explain with data, how they would be doing that

Ended up with more time than I thought tonight. This would have to be piecemealed by topic, as I simply don't care enough to put the time into hours of individual topics all at once.

Again, neither party is perfect. I will preface this. But I dislike democratic ideology more.

Affirmative action
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/14/
private-selective-colleges-are-most-likely-to-use-race-ethnicity
-as-a-factor-in-admissions-decisions/

Democratic support for affirmative action is something I disagree with. It disenfranchises high performing ethnicities (I am ~not~ asian, btw) and enforces diversity for the sake of diversity rather than individual merits. This is a purely philosophical approach, if you feel 25% of the university of michigan "should be black" I guess we just have to disagree. Which, if you could believe in etiquette and discourse, is appropriate. Personally I feel, and this should be a recurring theme by now to anyone reading, in personal accountability. Relying on history or color of skin, regardless of validity, is a crutch I would never be proud of.

How does it relate to destroying this country? By deliberately separating people by ethnicity and pitting people, indirectly, against each other not on what's inside but by factors beyond control. This stirs division, in my opinion.

It largely exists due to democratic support:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/06/08/
demographic-and-partisan-views-about-race-and
-ethnicity-in-college-admissions/

You'll also see it skews towards support of younger individuals and less of older. This will be, to be clear, a recurring theme of republican vs democratic principles: age reflecting political opinions.

I've personally experienced this. I was insanely passionate about voting democratic when I was 18. Wanted all the handouts since I was super fucking poor and wanted to tax the rich to give all their money to me.

That extends to the topic at hand, as I definitely had zero dollars for college. Med school was my ONLY loan, btw. I worked full-time to pay for undergrad which delayed graduation by 3 years. Didn't take a single loan or get money from my parents. I had a 10%-ish scholarship to where I wanted to go but needed cash to cover the balance. But med school is so expensive I didn't even try.

GranolaPanic posted...

Earlier you complained that Democrats were responsible for Andrew McCarthy losing his speakership. Remind me which Democrat was it that motioned for his removal?

It wasnt a Democrat. It was Matt Gaetz.

Moderate republicanism > democrats > MAGA >>>>>> liberal wing defunding all authority. I didn't ASK who initiated it. I AKED who supported it. ALL democrats voted to crash the country. No comment, eh?

Will_VIIII posted...

Where we at with this

Not far

that's fairly exhaustive and life can be unexpectedly busy

kids man

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Why is college mandatory? Why is there no personal accountability for decision-making? Personal responsibility is a valuable trait, one instilled in me from childhood. I'm accountable for all my decisions. Even with student loans. Before ever taking them out I sat and did loooooots of research. I knew full well this was going to be hundreds of thousands of dollars but estimated--correctly--it was payable. Why are others incapable? And why is the government now responsible for their bad decisions?

If he can't grind his boot on someone else's neck economically, is he really living?

Doesn't seem relevant to anything discussed here--by any stretch of any interpretation of anything I've said-- but okay

Seriously, having a huge population that is stuck in a cycle of debt for trying to improve and not being able to because of the systems in place designed to screw people over is honestly not much different than the caste system of India. So TC, why do you support a caste system?

No to castes, yes to accountability as mentioned above. No one ~has~ to go to college. There are great six figure trade jobs. Money from that can shunt into college if the student who cannot afford it later wishes to attend. You keep speaking like there is zero accountability to the borrower.

That is a fundamental political difference as well, I think. Democrats have zero concern in my mind--financially or personally--for accountability.

Humble_Novice posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80621106

Will TC come back to reiterate his support for Haley?

yes, show me a better alternative pls. Looking for a candidate that mostly aligns with me. I'm guessing this is hyperbole to highlight other points but at a literal value I'd prefer that not to be the case. I'd have been doxxed years ago just for speaking by mind--by people in this topic--under those rules. See below reply as well, related.

whitelytning posted...

What in that statement makes to say that?

This whole thread is a telling display of how toxic CE is.

Thank you. I was going to make a similar post re-reading the whole topic.

There is profound irony here. I've been nothing but polite and attempting to justify or reason through my views.

Anyone that disagrees should re-read the entire topic. It's largely vitriol and hate, and purely one-sided. This is another fundamental problem I have with the democratic party, one that is evident from this topic: complete cognitive dissonance from their own complaints.

The party as a whole is wildly, wildly intolerant of ideas that are not their own. Not that republicans are much better-or hey, better at all-- but the lack of recognition of their own intolerance while preaching tolerance is staggering.

It extends far beyond this website. This is just a symptom and an expected result. Still, I try to wait for anyone willing to debate with substance. Always willing.

Destruction is from both parties. Why, tell me, did democrats vote in unison to oust mccarthy? And really, think about it before replying. But I'll give you a good answer.

They don't want to see the rise of the moderate republican. They gave other reasons, including a recent interview, but really they were just as interested in kneecapping this country as the MAGA wing. They knew full well the weeks of congressional inaction that would follow. They could have kept the country functioning but chose to disable everything out of spite.

Will_VIIII posted...

Explain with data, how they would be doing that

Happily! Though it's time to feed my son dinner and do other stuff but I'll return tomorrow.

For whoever said, I do watch fox news. I also watch msnbc. And I'm a huge fan of last week tonight with John Oliver. Nothong wrong with collecting diverging points

Murphiroth posted...

So yeah, like we said, you're OK with all of that because Democrats bad.

You chuds gotta get new material.

I think I was quite clear I'm not okay with either but voting forces me to pick sides.

This topic is sideways enough without mentioning diverging viewpoints on the middle east. Another reason I like haley: she recognizes the importance of maintaining allies in both eastern Europe (ukraine) and supporting Israel whilst denouncing civilian deaths. America needs friends to operate internationally.

Will_VIIII posted...

Again, it's a tolerance for bigotry, election misinformation, reproductive rights being stripped, and covid misinformation to seriously consider voting for a Republican in the current political climate

Versus a party with no plan for immigration and welfare for all with absolutely zero workable plan to pay for any of it? That's not something they are "working on", they have no plan today, no plan tomorrow, no plan forever.

Everything you mentioned isn't good but letting democrats run the country into the ground doesn't appeal to me either

Murphiroth posted...

The fact that you're ok with the bigotry, Christofacism, and gerrymandering in the GOP because "they'll change eventually!" and "democrats bad!" for starters.

Not really "okay." That's why I like haley. Watch any of th3 debates? She's quite open about how a nationwide abortion ban is impossible. It's a slow movement on their part. Her as leader would change the gop to a more liberal social stance.

I dont feel there are other good options. Democrat platform doesn't appeal to me at all.

Honestly rfk Jr would be a good independent if he wasn't so weird about vaccines. Quite environmentally passionate

Will_VIIII posted...

Again, not a substantive rebuttal. I'm always open to change my mind but none of that does it for me.

I remember a looooooong time ago I heard John Kerry get tanked for being a "flip flopper." In retrospect that was a horrible criticism. The idea to criticize anyone for changing opinions is arguably in reverse of what it should be.

I constantly read and learn new things. Hell I read textbooks to break up monotony of fiction. And gradually I piece things together that just change my mind on things, especially as I find out more.

What's wrong with anything I said?

Gwynevere posted...

Remember when TC got put in timeout for suggesting that DEI is the reason we're going to lose a war to China

What is the draw to the right wing fake doctor/lawyer etc gimmick anyway

China is 100% laser focused on replacing the west as a global leader in virtually everything, esepcially militarily. They are doing it without a single concern for diversity. Both of those statements are factual. I'm not saying it's good or bad I'm just saying...it is what it is.

Will_VIIII posted...

I remember the TC praising Elon Musk for wanting to terraform Mars because the earth is a lost cause.

Climate science seems to think we're on a bad path. I'm not a climate scientist but I've no reason to doubt something with 99% agreement among professionals. I don't tell airline pilots how to fly, I won't pretend to know more than climate scientists about climate. If this planet is long term doomed make long term plans

Gwynevere posted...

Yeah, I think it was one of the topics about Vivek lol. A total shitshow

Meh. I'm off the vivek train, as mentioned

Will_VIIII posted...

Dunno what that means. I'm always up for a healthy and logical debate but it needs to be based on some kind of grounded logic, not lofty ideals.

May as well tell everyone in the world to stop committing crime so we don't need war or police anymore. Good idea, not practical

Rexdragon125 posted...

Why is TC in medicine if he doesn't understand empathy or the desire to improve society somewhat?

$$$$$$$$

Why fix someone's broken leg? Shouldn't have fallen in the first place!

I've always hated this argument. There's a reason empathy is well studied to go down as time in department does up. I honestly can't even debate that with you since I doubt you have meaningful Healthcare exposure.

supermichael11 posted...

TC the university you went to, the degree you chose it cost you $400,000 is that right?
Congratulations in being able to finish your payment.

400k includes interest.

312 is principal.

C_Pain posted...

How could your loans be so much?

Medical school without scholarship or free housing is not cheap. I wasn't exactly living it rich either.

Honestly I'm still not. Other than season tickets to some sports teams and concerts/events and some travel here and there you wouldn't know how much I make. The money I put on loans now goes into investing.

Murphiroth posted...

She's an American conservative and member of the GOP. Automatically disgusting.

And also lmao at the idea that the GOP will ever stop prioritizing Christofacism.

meh

weak argument

they're slow moving on a lot of things that require catchup. Took years to purge the last segregationist, an apt comparison to pro-life views and public polling and support. Over time it'll happen as the evangelical base shrinks and elections are lost despite horrific gerrymandering.

What else can I do? not a lot of options for someone wanting conservative government but liberal social stance. Too many democratic policies push me right, sorry.

Murphiroth posted...

Haley is also gross, though.

And the fact that it took you that long to realize Vivek sucks is laughable.

I'll bite. Why is Haley gross?

And it wasn't ~that~ long. The first debate was enough. I somehow completely missed his climate views.

Haley seems OK with abortion rights, or as okay as any republican can get. Hoping for a conservative government that stops prioritizing social issues (specifically religious-based views and restrictions), she seems like my best bet

MartavisBryant posted...

Congratulations! I have about 77k left out of my original 340k. I've been out of work so far for a month with a fractured humerus, and there's no exact timetable for my return. I'll eventually pay it off, but not as quickly as I was expecting :(

Must have felt nice to break six figs on the loans. I had a little party when it happened.

For those mentioning my edgy loan forgiveness thoughts, I know I sound bitter--and I indeed am--about any loan forgiveness. Look at it from the perspective of someone that filled out a contract, did the work, and paid it back: why would I respect anyone that just gets it wiped? Why should I be the only rule follower? How would that not foster bitterness? Where is the fairness or respect for consequence?

GranolaPanic posted...

TC is a Vivek supporter, so that makes sense.

Old news. The more I listen to him and read about him--especially after the debates--I'm team Haley. I think she's the best bet beyond the current nursing home frontrunners. Once trump is somehow legally or financially crippled from running I think she'll slide into the general election.

Ooooooranges posted...

As a primary care physician I disagree with multiple things you said.

Just because you made it through a predatory system, doesn't mean that everyone else should suffer. It's akin to defending the terrible culture of medical residency.

Many physicians become exceedingly greedy and bitter after their training is done, and you seem to be one of those. I'm sorry that this has happened to you, but don't try to project your beliefs as facts on everyone else.

Sounds like you don't work with private equity

I'm jealous

They squeeze you until you die

I would never defend residency either. Physician unions are around the corner, I'm sure

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5bdac30f.jpg

Got it down to the last chunk and just paid it off.

Not bad, considering it was a 5 year refinance through SoFi that I paid off in just over 4. If you see the disbursement date you'll notice I foolishly could have waited for the world to end a few months later and not refinanced. I ran some numbers and realized I ended up paying nearly 25k more by refinancing but I wasn't exactly expecting a pandemic to pause interest rates.

While it sucked, I'm still a believer that all humans are accountable for their own decisions. I knew it would be expensive. But I also knew I signed the papers promising to pay back what I owed and then I did it. Zero sympathy for anyone that gets an 80k arts degree and begs for forgiveness while making 32k. These are things you think of before taking out loans.

The irony is that now that I'm debt free I'm out of clinical practice. The world changed for the worse following covid so I went from working clinically to administratively.

Had a much longer writeup explaining why but deleted it all after I remembered this guy wrote it more accurately and eloquently than I ever could.

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/why-emergency-medicine-is-a-dying-specialty-the-thread-all-med-students-should-read.1477316/

Unless you're going to be an "-ologist" or surgical subspecialist, medical school is a horrible decision for anyone right now, btw

Zwijn posted...

This place has been a warzone for like 2000 years.

This point gets overlooked too easily. Two sides that absolutely, unrepentantly hate each other. Raised from birth to hate each other. Generations and generations of hate. Every presidency has some nonsense "middle east peace plan." None of them go any meaningful distance.

The cold hard reality is the war in the middle east will end when one side kills the other.

The whole situation sucks for everyone but I haven't heard a viable, long term solution from either the left or right.

And in lieu of that, entire populations disappear. Sad.

Fenriswolf posted...

Apologies I didn't know

quite frankly most people don't

CPR should be illegal for anyone over 80 for this reason

I've never seen anyone over that age survive compressions > 5 minutes

It's a nuance the public doesn't know. I don't have OP's dad's chart in front of me but pneumonia + CPR with that many broken ribs is a long road for recovery for even the healthy folk. Rough times.

True in every field

I worked with wildly incompetent physicians

But quite popular

Edit: also less likely to get sued

30% survival is highly optimistic

maybe 1/2 that

but obviously situation/age depended. One in ten is a good number from my experience (and general data and every other doctor I've spoken to, 30% would be amazing)

TodorokiHayato posted...

Didn't they just raise the minimum wage for healthcare workers up to $25-30 in some parts of the states?

Besides dealing with patients, it shouldn't be that different than someone working in retail trying to sell something right? I rather deal with sick people than deal with assholes calling me an oily salesman.

horrible take

horrible comparison

I want to be nice but this post is seething with so much ignorance I don't know where to start.

You can't do awful things long term for money

You can kick people out of a store. You can't easily kick people out of a hospital. Being called an "oily salesman" is mild compared to the verbal and physical abuse my nurses would endure. Some sites were better, the major trauma site was worse. Mostly drunk belligerent homeless cursing and masturbating. One nurse there told me about one in four patients would attempt to grope her. Is that worth $30 an hour?

Please stop talking about things you clearly know nothing about

maybe move on to telling airline pilots how to fly planes or something else you're equally unqualified to have an opinion of

bobbaaay posted...

The true question is - are most RNs terrible people before becoming RNs, or does becoming an RN make them terrible?

Medicine takes good people and makes them terrible

Nurses are leaving in droves

OP with his head in the sand or misinformed

Terrible time to be in Healthcare

Half the patients I saw during the height of delta variant deaths after vaccines were available still didn't give a shit about it

until I put them on a ventilator

at least two people asked me if they could have a vaccine before they were intubated, one later died.

One of many reasons I walked away from clinical practice: the worst part of medicine, any doctor will tell you, is the patients.

ScazarMeltex posted...

What motherfucking context justifies the murder of this many children? Or any really?

I don't know about justifies, but context of Hamas deliberately hiding operations among civilians vs Ukraine keeping weapons out of things like hospitals probably has a lot to do with this.

Hamas is literally using children as human shields. It's an impossible enemy to fight without killing civilians. No-win.

electricbugs2 posted...

Former hockey player here.

It was almost certainly an accident. Incident's like this have happened before, this is just the first death at the professional level from a skate cut incident.

Scumbags on Twitter are only saying it was murder because Matt Petgrave is black.

NHL? No offense just makes a difference for how much cred you have

I have four degrees, not counting high school

3 are worthless

Humble_Novice posted...

Gen Z helped save our bacon during the 2022 midterms. Let's hope they do it again in 2024.

rofl no

Gen Z saves nothing and consumes everything

In Ohio specifically the august issue 1 pissed off voters from all ages and all counties in Ohio. It was a lowball POS thing to do and it will cost Ohio GOP dearly for years to come

absolutely nothing to do with gen z

TimeForAction posted...

this is an issue based election I wouldnt read too much past that

git off my web sight Frank Larose

student loans will be paid off :O

When I was in clinical practice the average weight of patients in the poor area ED I was in was around 350 lbs

Not uncommon to see 500-600 lbs. Indeed, obesity is a national problem but it is much more likely to impact the poor than the rich.

This isn't the year 1300, where obesity was a sign of wealth.

Great game
Fun platinum

A trophy involving the robot lead is the hardest one to get

be useful

--Zero- posted...

TC is known for spreading conspiracy theories and being anti vax in the past. Im sure this topic was made in good faith.

umm

wut

I like vaccines

You can't find one post ever where I've said vaccines are bad

I was the 183rd person in all of my state to get the pfizer covid shot

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What I am speculating is entirely unproveable so opinion by consensus in some situations is helpful...