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LightHawKnight posted...

His father and his family werent born rich and had to work to get where they are now, and he assumes Jusis' family doesnt deserve their power due to them not earning it, cause face it, most nobles tend not to deserve it. Though I forget when you learn the real reason why he really freaking hates nobles or is it already explained?

No, it has not and will not for a while.

Tyranthraxus posted...

After all that shit Machias gave Jusis shit for being a nepo baby in the beginning turns out Machias' father is also on the board of directors. Guess they're both nepo babies now.

Reason #48215

To be fair there is actually a pretty massive historical precedent for the noble and merchant/liberal classes to be distinct in power. It is only a modern thing where they are effectively the same.

We just wanted to keep it a surprise as it makes the twist of him being there all the better.

Ye, outside of just random guessing I don't see how you could logic into it until something like Chapter 3 (IIRC). They don't really drop anything even slightly resembling a hint until later.

Tyranthraxus posted...

These field study quests sound suspiciously like Trails in the Sky FC quests. Medicine for the priest? fixing the orbal lamp? That's literally the exact same shit you do as Estelle. They even kept the Bear Claw.

It is basically the same, with the same "twist" for why it's being done as well.

Ye, I felt the same as well. I preferred the old way as I like complexity in this sort of way.

Ye, Kurt is good if you are only going for the evasion and can act as a "budget Fie" for large swaths of the later CS' where Fie isn't necessarily an option. He also works better as a bit of a "bulky DPS" in that you can throw on a couple of evasion bits and then just go all in on damage otherwise. Because of his strong Crafts he can push great damage and even if you aren't dodging everything having a pretty easy 50%+ dodge means that bosses largely can't take him down.

chris1001_the_sequel posted...

Evasion tank is also stupid OP

Ye, I was actually thinking about that in particular when I typed up "cheesy nonsense." Fie is just way too consistent at getting 100% without you having to bother to get anything rare.

Holy_Cloud105 posted...

What do you mean? Arts are better in Sky 1 and 2 and the Crossbell games. Sky 3 is the one of the few games where crafts can keep up. They need to do a much better job at making crafts useful because outside of Richard in Sky 3, Rean delay tactics in CS1/2 and Rean again in CS3 and 4, crafts don't really ever manage to keep up with arts. Even then arts Rean is stronger than crafts Rean in CS4. Reverie hit crafts really hard again for no reason and arts are just straight up better.

Understanding that I haven't played the Crossbell games (I forgot to make that clear with my other post, my bad): I generally never felt that the Arts were powerful enough in the Sky games. Crafts weren't lighting the world on fire, for the most part, but I found that it was kind of trivial to buff/debuff -> spank in Sky, and the fact that Crafts as a whole really wasn't a big deal for me as I either did S. Crafts or ran out the characters who did have good Crafts (like, there is no way you can convince me that Joshua didn't have good Crafts). Certainly I used Arts, but I don't really view support/healing in the same way and those really didn't change a whole lot over the series (Clock Up, for instance, was always kind of busted). By comparison you pretty much start out of the gate in CS being able to one shot essentially every normal enemy in AoE. On top of that even the powerful support stuffs got better with the addition of arguably the most busted nonsense in the series: Chrono Burst. Infinite turns on anyone with no real drawbacks beyond "it's kind of annoying to do the menuing" basically renders all difficulty moot if you want to use it.

Ye, magic in CS is stupid good. Outside of cheesy nonsense mages are almost universally the best thing you can be doing. Definitely a big improvement to the largely not so good magic from the previous games.

MajorGamer posted...

No mention of CS3? I just finished that one on Nightmare and it was pretty easy.

I mean, CS3 was pretty easy but that was more because it was easy rather than because you could delay everything into oblivion, never letting any enemy (until the post-game superbosses) have a single turn, like in CS2 or removing all of the turn delay off of the Rean's spells, meaning that no enemy got to ever take a single turn, like in CS4. Like, you are strong in CS3 but CS2/4 had you playing with some of the strongest characters across all of JRPGs in terms of just how badly they utterly ruined their respective game difficulty-wise. CS3 just doesn't quite hit that level of absolute destruction as at bare minimum you have to consider the boss as an actual thing in the battle.

Tyranthraxus posted...

I found some maxed out save game for CS1 and downloaded it so I don't have to do any bullshit grinding lol

You don't really have to do that in CS that much. They rebalanced things a bit and you are given some OP nonsense that lets you ignore grinding. And that's ignoring how CS2 and 4 make you into OP nonsense that literally cannot lose if you play correctly.

Euripides posted...

Also not a meme

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/57d36a09.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/02e3f638.jpg

Tyranthraxus posted...

I am taking small breaks I just don't document them in this thread. On 12/29 I basically played Dragon Slayer V all day.

That's fair, but even then that isn't near enough of a break for me. Like, I did Trails in the Sky + SC back to back and afterwards didn't get to 3rd for a good two months despite going into it all wanting to do them back to back. And after Cold Steel III I took off a good year just because of how little time I had between II and it.

Your efforts continue be awe-inspiring. I like the series, but after chugging through them like this I would definitely need a break. They are just waaay too dense for me to burn through them all.

thronedfire2 posted...

how long did TITS take to finish? I started it recently

It took me roughly 100 hours to beat all three.

Trumble posted...

That's actually a kinda cool idea tbh.

The reverse would be neat. Maps is good for finding places but afterwards you best have good memory.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f15f6a17.jpg

ChrisTaka posted...

why did the devs give every chest their own programmed message, just for them to all say the same thing, that the chest is empty

I have a guess, but if I'm right I might have to start drinking.

ArsGoetia posted...

damn
i only really like trashy isekais and power fantasies

I mean, there are loads of power fantasies on there. Just not isekai ones.

And I should say: NGNL is an isekai power fantasy. It's just not exactly trashy. Not unless you include the person who made it.

Ye, I thought of mentioning Konming as well but beyond being reverse isekai it really lacks essentially anything that people think of when they say "isekai power fantasy trash." It's only vaguely a power fantasy (there's no way you can convince me that Zhuge's trick to get people to not leave isn't essentially just power fantasy for something that isn't "hit things with stick") but it's about as far from trashy as you can get.

ArsGoetia posted...

not seen any of these
are any of em isekai power fantasy trash?

No Game No Life. Not exactly trash, but it's the only one that would really qualify there.

In other news: Frieren continues to be brutal.

Doe posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/240b5f85.png
uhhh

IIRC the solution for that one is hilarious.

Tyranthraxus posted...

I kinda wish I'd played these games when they were brand new. This seems like the perfect game for me to do multiple NG+ runs and completely stack out a team with multiples of the stuff you only get one of and do things like grind for rare drops. Alas, I must finish and move on to the next.

I'm definitely gonna come back to this game at some point.

The problem is that as far as gameplay is concerned Cold Steel just does the whole "goofy stacked nonsense" better. Especially once NG+ enters the mix. To that end it really is all about the story when talking about TitS replays as its narrative is a lot stronger in some ways versus CS.

Doe posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/55de5999.jpg

I feel you.

Now you get what I mean by "sadistic towards the end." Every stage is just you staring for a good 10+ minutes without even figuring out WTF you are even doing with your life.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Dude, where's TC's car?

It's busy.

Doe posted...

feels like i lost a piece of myself doing that one

That's pretty much how it feels by the end of things. The parts towards the end are just mind-boggling with how layered everything is.

ai123 posted...

That might have been a memorable coincidence?

There's more than enough to dislike about Rowling without reaching.

You don't bring that kind of thing up in an interview just because it's a silly coincidence. Especially not worded like that.

And don't put words in my mouth. Ignoring that it's not reaching I have at no point said that I dislike her because of the Catch 22 nonsense.

ai123 posted...

How is it pretentious?

It's a pretty easy, mainstream read. It's not like she's claiming to have read Dostoevsky in the original Russian.

Waiting until one is 22 to read Catch 22 because it has 22 in the name is pretentious. The act of being an easy/mainstream read really has nothing to do with it.

spikethedevil posted...

An actual twitter link.

"...which I first read aged 22."

How pretentious can one be?

LaLeyenda posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/75bbb7b7.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/05d4965a.jpg

Shotgunnova posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/be92b957.jpg

Rofl.

Doe posted...

Custom levels in this kind of game must suck because they're gonna be about exploiting really obscure quirks in the engine. Look at what people did in Mario Maker, and that at least had the possibility of actually platforming so you had some sane levels between the rube Goldberg machines

They can be that. They can also be like I posted in #8. Another fun one is Galaga recreated in Baba is You.

BurmesePenguin posted...

Nanjing is in China, not South Korea. I'm sure the Koreans have their own list of atrocities they make reference to when considering the Japanese treatment of them in the 20th century.

*And*? Do you think that only the countries directly effect by the holocaust were aware of it? Or that no Koreans were in China at the time?

And yes, they have a list as well.

cadcrafter posted...

Here. We. Go.
One of my favorite twists in all of gaming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2fjZa_L74

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't been done.

Kai_Laguna posted...

Japanese convenience stores.

We already have the most profitable on in Japan.

Cruciferous posted...

from which fucking country

Any of the developed ones. Well, sans the US. If you want to count us as developed.

BurmesePenguin posted...

Uh....

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DrizztLink posted...

Japan doesn't.

I mean, yes. But I was clearly not referring to them. Everyone who Japan did terrible things to does. >.>

NeonBoobs posted...

Good analogy. Is that why Korea bans the rising sun flag, but people in America don't give a fuck? >_>

Pretty much. South Korea didn't have to deal with the Nazis, but they certainly remember the Nanjing Massacre.

PiOverlord posted...

Yeah, very fair. Death Battle is cool as I do like the animations; I just find powerscaling discussions in general to be dumb nowadays. When did every character become multiversal?

As with all things it is because the gentrification of the characters through capitalism. It is very hard to make a good story with good characters, but if you can make the same money just giving people the exact same garbage day in and day out and they will never even bat an eye in giving you their money why would anyone care? Anime is an easy one to point to there every season is basically just one third "cute girls doing cute things", one third isekai, one third repeats from last season, and a rounding error of things that are even slightly original.

And the reason that everything became universal is the same reason that every game that lasts for a while has power creep: because you have to always move up in scale in order to make people go "woah" that much harder. If someone does something you can't make something lesser or even the same now as people have already seen that. Originally there was a level of "soft reset" when it came to fandoms due to people aging out of it, but with things being heavily calcified many people will just stick around. Thus creating a scenario where an upwards trend just naturally has to occur in order to excite that crowd.

kirbymuncher posted...

funny thing is that bunburrows has (had?) an achievement for 100% with the descriptive text "that we know of..." and the community later found another 20%ish. Game's so complex even the devs aren't even sure all the possible things you can do as solutions

That doesn't surprise me. I saw it ages ago when it came out and when I looked into some of the mechanics (through a simple review video) I instantly had my entire brain go up with red flags for how much utter nonsense you would have to do if you wanted to hit the last little bit (specifically the baby buns).

PiOverlord posted...

I mean, I never have taken DB as some gospel because it really is just a big budget playground argument. It's more so how every character in the series is just characters who all-powerful despite losing to weak characters at the end of the day because story matters more than this idea of powerscaling.

I wasn't trying to mean just DB itself, but the entire concept. The second that you start to branch out beyond a couple of very specific examples you quickly end up with characters who are exactly as you say in that they are extremely inconsistent to an absurd degree. Thus it very much comes out as a "this person wins because I like them more" more than anything else as most of the time just going off of strict math is just going to end up nowhere, yet if you go past that to look at the math you end up with patently goofy nonsense.

Oh God, I'm not touching Bunburrows. That one looks sadistic by the end, especially if you are going for 100% (which I view as required for this sort of game).

And yeah, it's all about the last little bit. In both games they are mostly tame for a good 50%, tricky for 48%, and then psychopathic for the last 2%. As with all of these sorts of games how they are easier or harder based on how you personally view things. So because I tend to play a lot more word-based logic puzzles (mainly through mystery games, but also stuff like Heaven's Vault or Chants of Sennaar) I found Baba Is You much easier than Patrick's Parabox. It's in that sort of rationale that I feel that in a generic sense both are reasonably close to each other in difficulty, and it's more about what type of stuff I spend more time doing otherwise that really makes the "true" difference in difficulty.

Beefbud posted...

Game seems incredible but also insanely hard. I beat Stephen's Sausage Roll with barely any help but this game has me stumped early

Ye, the game is great but it (and Patrick's Parabox) really represent the "cute and fun little puzzle game turned testicular torsion generator" hard. At a certain point the game is *actively* trying to kill you IRL with some of the utter nonsense that it is trying to pull (that last level was waaaay too BS).

Doe posted...

But not sure if I'm accomplishing

You are actually pretty close to a breakthrough though, IIRC, you have to restart from just a bit before where you are there as you made a minor boo-boo.

Doe posted...

this will totally help me right

ROFL.

I mean, that's why everyone that has been saying that the whole thing is dumb from the get go has been saying that it's dumb. It was pretty obvious from the get go that the second that characters from flagrantly different situations were matched up with one another that this is where it was going to end up. Similarly the whole concept of the "toon force" is just an extrapolation of what essentially 99.9% of what makes up the whole affair. For every character like The Flash where they recognize that physics would absolutely not work with what they were saying there are hundreds of thousands that the person doing the writing flagrantly is just doing things because it seems cool and not actually giving a crap about the actual physical ramifications (which is cool up until someone tries to do something like compare their strength versus another character from a different setting).

Naw, you got it. It's just that you can max out your SPECIAL stats if you want to so being able to rebuild them means a little bit less (though it essentially requires that you know how to max them from the get go as it requires a pretty specific layout for most of the stats).