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Tmaster148 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

gmanthebest posted...

So every country with voter ID laws (pretty much every country) are racist?

The difference is really that other countries have a federal id that is consistent throughout the country.

The US is different in that there's no mandatory federal id and the closest we really have is the driver's license which isn't mandatory either. This allows for states to pick and choose what id to accept which means they discriminate against certain groups of people. If you really think voter id is nessicary you also need to federal government to create a mandatory federal id.

Name one state that said a state-issued photo ID wouldn't be valid to vote.

You've already missed the point.

Not really.
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Tmaster148 posted...

gmanthebest posted...

So every country with voter ID laws (pretty much every country) are racist?

The difference is really that other countries have a federal id that is consistent throughout the country.

The US is different in that there's no mandatory federal id and the closest we really have is the driver's license which isn't mandatory either. This allows for states to pick and choose what id to accept which means they discriminate against certain groups of people. If you really think voter id is nessicary you also need to federal government to create a mandatory federal id.

Name one state that said a state-issued photo ID wouldn't be valid to vote.
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Conflict posted...

It's crazy how people care more about "muh guns" than innocent people getting killed. And Republicans wonder why they're the laughingstock of the planet

You love the Patriot Act, FISA courts, and Gitmo, too?

Those things all have saved innocent lives in exchange for fundamental rights.
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spudger posted...

Yes, you dont need a fundamental rights if you are that unbalanced

ftfy
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KingCrabCake posted...

If you're on anti-depressants or diagnosed with depresssion you shouldnt own a gun.

So take fundamental rights away from half the country.
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Conflict posted...

You have to be a special type of awful to look at gun control suggestions in regards to a shooting and think "omgz the libruls are trying to take my guns away"

Or just realistic. DC vs Heller overturned de-facto gun bans.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Questionmarktarius posted...

Isn't an ID required to buy a gun?

And tobacco, and alcohol, and a car, and about a thousand other things.

But showing one to vote is racist. Not for anything else you need one for, though - JUST voting.

Proves libs don't want black people to defend themselves from a racist assault.
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

Look, I get why they don't want guns banned outright. I don't agree with it, but I understand their reasoning.

But why are most of them against stricter background checks and restrictions for the mentally ill getting guns? There's only two groups of people who should be against such a proposal

The mentally ill who really want a gun
Gun manufacturers and sellers

If you're not either a dangerous psychopath or a gun shop owner then why are you against this?

Because fundamental rights shouldn't be restricted from up to half the population.

So you're saying literally half the population are dangerous psychopaths? Fucking lol

I didn't mean ALL mental illness. I'm talking about things like psychopathy, and antisocial personality disorder. Conduct disorder, etc

Just the mental illnesses known to cause violent rages

And you REALLY think it would never expand? That we'd NEVER add depression to the list so we can try to minimize suicides?
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The_Weird_Gamer posted...

They just want to be contrarians. It's pretty sad.

There is one conservative I respect that kind of had an argument. He said that because many left wing people want guns banned altogether, it would be easy to classify bad mental health as anything after a few pieces of legislation. I think it's not realistic, but it's the best explanation i've heard.

Well, what 'mental illness' will get your gun rights taken away?

Keep in mind that the only diagnosed mental illnesses in a lot of shooters has been depression, something that affects a LOT of people.

Thinking that argument is unrealistic under these circumstances proves you have no desire to actually look at reality.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Genocet_10-325 posted...

Look, I get why they don't want guns banned outright. I don't agree with it, but I understand their reasoning.

But why are most of them against stricter background checks and restrictions for the mentally ill getting guns? There's only two groups of people who should be against such a proposal

The mentally ill who really want a gun
Gun manufacturers and sellers

If you're not either a dangerous psychopath or a gun shop owner then why are you against this?

Because fundamental rights shouldn't be restricted from up to half the population.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

CarlGrimes posted...

Many of my listeners were also quick to point out the Black Panther, played by actor Chadwick Boseman, hails from an African nation that's depicted as both wealthy and technologically advanced. To many, this was the perfect response to Donald Trump reportedly calling Africa a "shithole"

Wouldn't the perfect responce be of a real country like that and not one that is made up?

Liberals believe that the movie is a fully accurate portrayal of African culture and way of life.
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Blue_Inigo posted...

There's no actual good reason to have no black people and the director of this game has said some dumb shit

How is 'there weren't black people in this place at this time' NOT a good reason?
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metralo posted...

so you guys want the internet to be heavily regulated and watched over by the fbi every second of the day? trolling is a federal offense?

It already is.
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spudger posted...

racist trumpeter republicans cant handle black success

So you missed the part that says BLM supporters were doing it, too, just like after Trump won.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

I bet SOME did, because criticism of Tyler Perry movies is met with a lot of cries of racism, but I doubt enough of them were compelled to give it a good rating to affect it's RT.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

darkjedilink posted...

What charges?

Nothing that has anything to do with helping the Russians interfere with the election, I bet.

Manafort and Gates:

- Conspiracy against the United States
- Being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal
- Making false and misleading FARA statements

Papadopoulos:

- Making a false statement to FBI investigators about his connections to Russia

Flynn:

- Making false statements to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador

You don't have to bet on anything, you can find it on any site that isn't fake news.

So I'm absolutely right.
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red_is_ash posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

red_is_ash posted...

I would imagine it's the AK-47, since its been around since WWII and for its infamy. I couldn't find any details on this subject. Is it possible it could be a rifle?

Didn't actually see service until 1948

You're right. I thought it came into service earlier.

You may have thought that because it's basically a refinement of the STG-44, which saw action in WW2.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

What came of those? Did anybody get convicted?

Two plead guilty, other two are under house arrest awaiting their trial.

What charges?

Nothing that has anything to do with helping the Russians interfere with the election, I bet.
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KazumaKiryu posted...

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

I don't get it...this was known for almost 6 months since Facebook & Twitter revealed that Russian agents may or may not be linked to the Russian government bought ads on their network and used US social media to organize protests. This is nothing new, but people are acting like it is.

Russia tried to interfere, that much is know, but there still no evidence of collusion.

The ads were anti-Hillary, anti-Trump, pro-Bernie, pro-Trump and pro-Jill Stein. The reach of the ads is unknown, but as someone who actually used ad platforms, the cost is extremely high, ranging anywhere from $.50 to $50 per click, depending on the popularity of the keywords. The conversion ratio is also low compared to how much is spent, so anything who think a million dollar is a lot in ad spending, you don't know ad spending.

The indictments are new. This whole presidency feels like a reality show meant to make both sides feel like they've won from time to time. It's like every couple weeks, on a Friday, we'll get some major new revelation. This time it was the democrats turn to celebrate.

Celebrate what? That, yet again, we have zero proof Trump had anything to do with Russians interference?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

ScaredKitty posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Viet Cong says 'hello.'

Do you seriously believe soft ass Americans would be able to mount a serious resistance against the US military? They'd all surrender the second the government shut off their cell phones.

Liberals, maybe.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

It made sense in the 1700s. Also why do people today keep ignoring the regulated militia part of the 2nd amendment?

Because gun control supporters who cite it don't even know what it means.

Like you.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Viet Cong says 'hello.'
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

The Great Muta 22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Axiom posted...

Russia being proven to have done what everyone aside from Trump supporters already knew they did. What a shock

Once again, there's no connection to Trump.

Which he never claimed in his post....stop trying to change the discussion.

And I'm still wondering, if you admit Obama was wrong in 12 and 14 with his comments about the seriousness of the threat that Russia was, do you think that the President should enforce the bipartisan sanctions that he signed into law yet refused to enforce?

Yes, I do. I never argued otherwise.
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Paper_Okami posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Paper_Okami posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

End this topic please.

oh look who is triggered again!

Imagine being as dense as you.

Imagine getting so mad about the alt right getting shat on.

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/02/16/florida-shooting-white-nationalists-415672

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-white-nationalist-republic-of-florida/

His 'white nationalist' connection is fake news.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Sephiroth1288 posted...

sobergermanguy posted...

It would cut into the profits of arms manufacturers. Can't have that. Smith and Wesson run this country, they're like the illuminati

Yeah dude, look at all that influence S&W has...

Shhhhhhh.....
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

BBT's already given up on his 'white nationalist' topic, I take it.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

ledbowman posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

End this topic please.

How am I wrong?

https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/02/16/florida-shooting-white-nationalists-415672

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-white-nationalist-republic-of-florida/

His 'white nationalist' connection is fake news.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

andel posted...

amazing that people are trying to defend white nationalists even after a white nationalist organization confirmed this guy was a member...also he was a confirmed trump supporter

Dude....
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https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/02/16/florida-shooting-white-nationalists-415672

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-white-nationalist-republic-of-florida/

His 'white nationalist' connection is fake news.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Axiom posted...

Russia being proven to have done what everyone aside from Trump supporters already knew they did. What a shock

Once again, there's no connection to Trump.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

DarthAragorn posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Where is this 'white nationalist' stuff coming from?

Last I heard, it was fake news.

Shitposters gonna shitpost

So, you got nothing?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Where is this 'white nationalist' stuff coming from?

Last I heard, it was fake news.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

The Great Muta 22 posted...

I never said that he wasn't. I was instead saying that Obama making that comment in 2012 leaves out the context of Russian action since 2012 and is used as a way to discredit him.

There's no context to ignore. Obama said it, and it was a really fucking stupid thing to say in 2012. Then, in 2014, after Crimea, he doubled-down on that same rhetoric.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

but according to Agent Orange there was no interference

According to your Messiah Obama, Romney was a buffoon when said we should worry about Russia.

i dont recall the exact context in which that was said or what it was about, specifically. but if Obama somehow implied that we shouldn't do anything about Russia ever, then I'd say he was wrong.

It's a reference to the 2012 election debate when Romney called Russia our greatest geo-political threat facing America and Obama told him the Cold War was over. It's used by Trump toadies to point out hypocrisy while completely ignoring events that had happened since the time Obama made that comment, such as the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

No, Crimea kinda proves Romney was right.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Questionmarktarius posted...

darkjedilink posted...

No American has been arrested for colluding with the Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

Yeah, let's pretend I wasn't speaking in the context of Trump's election.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Foppe posted...

FBI should check up every trolling post now?
FBI stopped doing that after they arrested Jake Brahm for spamming in 4chan.

They literally admitted they fucked up.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting/fbi-admits-failure-to-act-on-florida-school-gunman-draws-anger-idUSKCN1G00T7

They were supposed to investigate, but the Miami field office never got the order.

You gonna accept that you're just plain wrong on this one yet? Or are you so into seeing Trump go down that you can't accept the FBI might not be infallible?
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Sparksfanboy posted...

When will the backpedaling, goalpoast moving, lying antics of the alt-right end? It's been a continual conga line of scapegoating since this whole thing started.

"There was no collusion with the Russian."
"Okay, so one of our aides colluded with the Russians, no one else did."
"But Hillary."
"Okay, so some of the inner circle that we dumped for absolutely seperate reasons months ago was colluding with the Russians. We weren't."
"Okay, so maybe there is a small chance that several others were colluding with the Russians, but there is absolutely no proof that Trump or his family was involved."
"But Hillary's emails."
"It's not illegal to collude with the Russians."
"Okay so people are getting arrested for colluding with the Russians. Trump won't be though."
"But Obama."
...

No American has been arrested for colluding with the Russians.
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SlashmanSG posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Seriously - someone in this thread wants Trump executed for treason over this.

18 U.S. Code 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

What part of 'no American was involved' don't you understand?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

The Great Muta 22 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.

Because you guys have been saying it should be finished by now since about a month into it, proving your complete and utter ignorance on the history of Special counsels

No, YOU guys have been saying 'any day now' since before inauguration.

I've been saying 'where's the evidence Trump was involved?' This indictment suggests there still is none, yet you got people in this thread hoping for Trump's death as a result.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

CADE FOSTER posted...

Mueller isnt finished yet goons

That's what you've been saying for a year.
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Shuto-uke posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Polycosm posted...

How will Fox cover this story today?
A. conspicuous silence
B. move goalposts
C. "...but do you even care?"
D. "We'll cover this on Monday" / cut to gruesome car crash footage

E: other: talk about some Mexicans that their viewers should be raging about

F:
Funbazooka posted...

DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

Why did you repeat C?

lol. That isn't a repeat of C.
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Funbazooka posted...

DOJ: There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

Shhhhhhh! CElibs will either die of stroke or heart attack.

Seriously - someone in this thread wants Trump executed for treason over this.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Agreed.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Patchwork posted...

I think the idea is people want to limit the damage a deranged individual can do in a short period of time.

How about we separate the deranged from society?

Nope, can't do that - it will hurt someone's feelings, and if it was a minority, it'd be racist.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

TheVipaGTS posted...

BillyKidd posted...

just think, what would have happened if he never pointed a gun out of the hotel window.

fuck off.

Do you want people to be responsible with guns?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

halomonkey1_3_5 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

How about the fact that the FBI most certainly could have backtraced the IP? Or gotten his personal information from Google?

FBI fucked up. AGAIN.

Should the FBI get personal details on every person who makes school shooter comments online? And if they do, then what? Do they go lock up everyone saying that kind of shit(if they live in the US)? It's not like the comment was "I'm going to shoot up my old high school on valentines day". It was a generic school shooter comment that tons of youtube shitposters make as a joke. I dont expect the FBI to track down and keep tabs on every reported youtube commenter that says stupid shit.

They are.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2018/02/15/threats-hoaxes-anxiety-and-arrests-an-uneasiness-in-schools-after-florida-shooting/

Why is it we can do it NOW, and not five months ago?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

ilovuuu posted...

i dunno man. you are usually good with posts but these are two different situations.

Zimmerman likely should have gone to prison though

Imagine thinking self-defense is a crime.
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

The Great Muta 22 posted...

The Admiral posted...

Identity politics and the myth of racial oppression weren't a thing in the pre-Obama era. People are much more obsessed about race in 2018 than they were in the 1990s, and it's a giant step back.

Well this is a laughably stupid take. Racism and issues pertaining to that absolutely were a thing then, regardless of your attempts to pretend else wise

People were claiming white people can't dress as minorities for Halloween in the '90's?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

lolife67 posted...

It wasn't based around African-American/African culture.

Wait - do people think that Wakanda is a realistic portrayal of African culture?
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'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen

Darkman124 posted...

the issue is "CULTEEUR WARZ FUCK DA LIBZ DER NAZI COMMIES" being screamed by right wing propaganda outlets

i'm not even using hyperbole here:

http://nation.foxnews.com/2018/02/15/tucker-calls-gun-control-are-kind-class-warfare

not even really their listeners being dumb enough to believe it...most americans want universal background checks

but the NRA pays the GOP to prevent that from happening

Would a universal background check have prevented ANY school shooting?
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