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| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 1:10:59 PM #118 | AffligemFR posted... pinky0926 posted...AffligemFR posted...@pinky0926 haha boom |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 1:10:28 PM #117 | pinky0926 posted... This is the most patent example of white saviour complex you could have put to text. The British did not overwhelm countries around the globe through extensive military conflict just to help them all out a bit. Don't be dishonest and pretend it was ever about that. You are being a hypocrite, because you're actually the one who is offering an example of white savior complex. By advocating for race quotas on the behalf of minorities, and by justifying it as if they need your help in order to have a fair shot at the world. The British took over in order to help themselves. In doing so, they brought education, technology, and wealth to their colonies. That is why colonies they had tend to have prospered and grown. Is that always the case? No. But it's generally true that building sustainable and growing colonies requires that the colonies function. And that entails protection, wealth, technology, medicine, education, etc. To say that colonizing was all bad is just not true. pinky0926 posted... So you read "Race isn't a guarantor of wealth" and took that to mean "see! Racism doesn't exist and race doesn't matter"? Really dude? No. I took that as an example of why you need to explain what those stats mean, not simply refer to those stats as if they agree with your point. Statistics are data points. They require interpretation. pinky0926 posted... When white people start having issues getting a job because they're white and it becomes a large societal problem even remotely comparable to the actual real life problem of minorities having this issue right now, you can get back to me on this. That's already the case in places where race quotas are even more of a thing. And you really want to wait until discrimination becomes a big problem rather than nip it in the bud? Truly awful and hateful. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 1:07:07 PM #114 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...pinky0926 posted...pls posted...I was a minority where I grew up. You have no evidence so far. Telling someone to envision hypotheticals is nonsense, especially when you're hoping to have primed their thought process to already presuppose that you're right. No, you're trying to weasel your way into minimizing someone's experiences if they don't fit the preconceived mold you have in your head. Your anecdotes don't matter. How many times does that need to be repeated in this topic? Your anecdotes about black people or white people are not evidence for anything. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 1:06:03 PM #113 | Funkydog posted... pls posted...By making it okay to not hire someone solely because of their white skin. By making it okay to hire someone solely because of their non-white skin. Where do you draw the line between inclusion and what is actually exclusion? You are a walking contradiction. You claim you don't want to hire someone just because of their skin color...but then say that as a consequence of your views, some whites will lose out after their "rich social circle" is cut off. You might as well just come out and say that you don't actually care if some whites are held back due to being white and that you actually are advocating that we hire based on skin color. Because what you define as "creating a more level playing field" IS being defined solely in terms of how much representation skin colors have. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 1:04:00 PM #110 | awesome999 posted... Equal oppurtunity, it works both ways. Stunting white people to propel minorities just imbalances inequality the other way They don't care, because in today's political climate it's okay to generalize about white people. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 1:03:01 PM #108 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...I was a minority where I grew up. You have no evidence so far. Telling someone to envision hypotheticals is nonsense, especially when you're hoping to have primed their thought process to already presuppose that you're right. What a racist shit post, dude. Unbelievable. Screenshotting this. What kind of minority? Are you fucking kidding me? And generalizing about white men? Awful. You're seeking to minimize someone's experiences by running some purity test on whether or not they're the "right" kind of minority? Is there some SJW totem pole that you use to figure out some order of oppression when deciding who is oppressed and who cannot be oppressed? |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 1:01:06 PM #106 | Funkydog posted... pls posted...No, I was provided evidence to show proportions of demographics in positions. That data does not in itself tell us anything. It has to be interpreted. And I want to know why your interpretation is that it is evidence that we need anti-white race quotas in hiring. By making it okay to not hire someone solely because of their white skin. By making it okay to hire someone solely because of their non-white skin. Where do you draw the line between inclusion and what is actually exclusion? And tell me again why it's your business who someone wants to hire? Should every company at all times ensure they have X% black, Y% brown, and Z% white in their company? What about the percentage of men/women? What about all the other genders? What about religions? What about other immutable characteristics? If a company loses an employee and suddenly the odds tip in the White Man's favor because the company became X + Y% white instead of just X% white, should the company fire the white person or immediately look for just non-white candidates? |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:58:59 PM #103 | pinky0926 posted... You don't see how the literal rape and pillaging of other countries could possibly have any negative consequences for some people? Really dude, really... It could have had negative consequences for the people then and the communities then, sure. But what about the education, medicine, and technology that the British empire took to the places it colonized? Tremendous advancements were made. It's arguable that the wealth of nations grew with the wealth of Britain. pinky0926 posted... http://uk.businessinsider.com/chances-becoming-millionaire-education-race-2016-1 I'm looking at your first link and here's what it says: That's not to say that the discouraging findings are necessarily a predictor of the future, or any kind of guarantee of wealth or lack thereof. After all, everyone is facing some odds: CNBC reports that there were about 10.1 million US households in 2014 with investable assets of $1 million or more minus the value of their primary residence. That's just 3%, a tiny slice, of the 318.9 million population. Did you read that part? Because it seems you're not even questioning the reason behind the stats, and just assuming that it's "colonialism." No different than how rad fems spout off about "patriarchy" as the boogeyman behind every evil.pinky0926 posted... No, I want to include people who have been completely excluded for hundreds of years. By excluding people if they're white and including people if they're not white. That's racist. It's also saying that you don't think minorities are capable of being educated and successful without your help. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:54:17 PM #99 | Funkydog posted... You were provided evidence to show the disparity of people in various positions, compared to the general population. If you want to dismiss it, then I'm not sure what else is to be said. No, I was provided evidence to show proportions of demographics in positions. That data does not in itself tell us anything. It has to be interpreted. And I want to know why your interpretation is that it is evidence that we need anti-white race quotas in hiring. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:53:33 PM #98 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...It's clear that pinky and Funkydog haven't thought through their beliefs. Instead they're content to just scramble for whatever links they can cherrypick in the moment, all because they're more content to continue agreeing with their own preconceived notions. I was a minority where I grew up. You have no evidence so far. Telling someone to envision hypotheticals is nonsense, especially when you're hoping to have primed their thought process to already presuppose that you're right. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:51:30 PM #96 | pinky0926 posted... You're absolutely right here. Do you think you'd have a fair old time in Asia? Because I lived in South Korea for 4 years and it was tough being a white guy there. A lot of places just won't give you a lead in. For the last time, pinky - your fucking anecdotes don't matter. YES, I firmly believe I'd have a fair time in Asia or any other country on earth regardless of my skin color. That's because I'm confident in my skills and experiences. There's my anecdote. See now why anecdotes aren't evidence? You and @Funkydog need to stop with the anecdotes. pinky0926 posted... This conversation is not about evil white man. It is about evil power, which in the UK has benefited white people more than others to a huge margin. Evidence? How do you quantify "evil power" and how do you measure its effect? How do you know it has benefited white people more? If there's X number of white people in a company, is that because of racism against minorities? Is that because "evil power" benefited white people? At what number of white people in a company or in a circle of friends does the effect of the "evil power" diminish? pinky0926 posted... Because it depends on whether you think colonialism was damaging or not and whether we should take steps to address the damage done. If you can't even see how it was damaging and continues to be damaging for people who are not white in the UK then I guess we don't have much else to talk about. Colonialism is not in itself responsible for the world's woes. Provide evidence! kthxbai |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:49:04 PM #93 | Funkydog posted... pls posted...It's clear that pinky and Funkydog haven't thought through their beliefs. Instead they're content to just scramble for whatever links they can cherrypick in the moment, all because they're more content to continue agreeing with their own preconceived notions. There is no evidence for this. You've only presented "x% of population" as an argument but that doesn't prove anything because any number of factors can be responsible for that. And you also haven't addressed how implementing anti-white race quotas is fair to white people. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:48:01 PM #91 | pinky0926 posted... Actually slavery is not really the critical driving force of power circles that exist today in the UK. The remnants of colonialism is. The height of the British Empire was just 100 years ago. Do you really think all those dynamics just completely crumbled away in just a couple of generations? Not a chance. I don't think it's a bad thing that a Britain benefited from colonizing other countries. I need evidence in order to come to that conclusion. All you've done is assert things repeatedly as if they are true of obvious. Why is Britain being better at war and gaining territory a bad thing, and why must people 100 years later agree with racist race quotas in some gambit to "make things better"? pinky0926 posted... My friends at boarding school had the kind of old money most people think only exists in movies. And yes, you can directly attribute that to a time when black people simply had less human rights. Evidence? Instead of anecdotes. What % of wealth is the direct consequence of racism?pinky0926 posted... The current system has created an environment upon not hiring someone solely because they're not white, through all the mechanisms I've already explained. A level playing field? You want to exclude people solely because of the color of their skin. That's not a level playing field. You are once again defining "fair" as "everyone has the same outcome." That's a non sequitur. You are once again asserting your notion of fairness as if everyone subscribes to that anti-white definition. The global economy has never favored skill and talent more than it does now. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:43:27 PM #87 | It's clear that pinky and Funkydog haven't thought through their beliefs. Instead they're content to just scramble for whatever links they can cherrypick in the moment, all because they're more content to continue agreeing with their own preconceived notions. When someone is so unwilling to change their views or to acknowledge that they don't have answers and that they bought into an ideology too soon, it's pointless to keep talking with them. They're just going to go in a circle, never once stopping to think if they're the real racists. I give up. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:41:17 PM #86 | pinky0926 posted... Newhopes posted...Just admit it already you are racist. Colonialism tends to help the winner grow in wealth and power regardless of their skin color. The middle east saw a lot of this too. So did African countries that took over other African countries. Why are race quotas suddenly okay just because Europe was better at colonizing other countries? How much of the present wealth in Britain is a direct result of colonization and nothing else? What percentage of white people in their current roles didn't deserve their roles and got them because of colonization? |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:39:36 PM #84 | Funkydog posted... pls posted...maybe the private education produces superior people. why are proportions evidence of racism or discrimination? that strikes me as trying really hard to find injustice where there might not be any. Your anecdote is not evidence. I could just as easily offer an anecdote that public education is embarrassingly ineffective and bad. At this point you haven't defended your view. I asked for evidence and for an explanation as to why bullshitting about "just X% of population P" constitutes evidence. Is too many white people a sign of racism? Why? |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:38:05 PM #83 | pinky0926 posted... If you're born into a wealthy family that became wealthy and continued to grow in wealth because your great granddaddy put down the foundation when slavery and colonialism were the means of doing so then guess what - you're benefitting from racism whether or not you've personally treated minorities differently or not. How much of the wealthy's wealth is a result of owning slaves? What percentage? Also, you're going in a circle. You say that the wealth and the distribution of white people are a result of systematic racism. I ask for evidence for that systematic racism and you refer back to white people's supposed wealth and representation as if that is evidence. pinky0926 posted... You think racism is just about treating everyone the same, like the only thing that matters is personal prejudice. I'm talking about systematic racism, which is a much bigger thing than yourself. Hiring someone solely because they're black is racism. Not hiring someone solely because they're white is racism. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:29:17 PM #76 | Funkydog posted... pls posted...Funkydog posted...No, as it isn't fair currently. maybe the private education produces superior people. why are proportions evidence of racism or discrimination? that strikes me as trying really hard to find injustice where there might not be any. who cares if "just x% of population P"? that is assuming that's a bad thing or the result of racism or elitism |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:20:09 PM #70 | pinky0926 posted... This requires you to ignore and pretend that the old boys club doesn't exist. Which it does, and is almost exclusively white, because of systematic racism over time. So if something is white, it's because of systematic racism over time? If someone hires people who happen to be white, it's because of systematic racism over time? If something isn't the outcome you want to see, it's because of systematic racism over time? |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:19:29 PM #69 | Funkydog posted... No, as it isn't fair currently. evidence that it doesn't matter how good you are? unless you UK people have a really fucked up way of hiring, that's definitely not the case in America. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:18:46 PM #66 | Funkydog posted... pls posted...Funkydog posted...And like pinky said, it is often a class problem as well - they need to be encouraged to hire outside of their circle as simply going to eton (or wherever) doesn't make you a good candidate and it seems that is all they consider. For now. But let's not pretend it isn't a precursor to more strong-arming. pinky0926 posted... It's like you don't know employment law exists and is complicated and has all sorts of stipulations on discrimination. "Let's end discrimination...by discriminating!!!" |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:17:42 PM #65 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...you are literally advocating for anti-white race quotas even though you're complaining about some supposed systemic racism fair and forced equal outcomes are not the same thing. fair means that anyone can get in regardless of skin color. what you're advocating explicitly hurts people with white skin just because they have white skin. that's the very antithesis of fair. you have an insane notion of what fairness is tbqh. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:15:54 PM #61 | Funkydog posted... And like pinky said, it is often a class problem as well - they need to be encouraged to hire outside of their circle as simply going to eton (or wherever) doesn't make you a good candidate and it seems that is all they consider. It's their business though. They can hire anyone they want. Why is it your job to tell a business who to hire? |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:15:26 PM #59 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...LethalAffinity posted...The UK is already very diverse, especially London. Why do they keep doing this? Who are they trying to appease? you are literally advocating for anti-white race quotas even though you're complaining about some supposed systemic racism |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:07:09 PM #54 | LethalAffinity posted... The UK is already very diverse, especially London. Why do they keep doing this? Who are they trying to appease? the anti-white racists who use "diversity" as a code word for "less white" |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 12:04:27 PM #52 | l Dudeboy l posted... Yeah, guess what they were saying 20 years ago? The same thing i don't care about 20 year old sources that i can't find on google, i care about the recent ones that i can confirm exist. enjoy the decline! l Dudeboy l posted... Good thing I don't have to worry about being attacked by someone wielding a gun then! https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/27/violent-rising-england-wales-police-figures-ons you are dangerously dishonest and a threat to freedom and peace. you realize that? maybe stop peddling nonsense |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 11:52:23 AM #50 | back to the topic at hand why are race quotas good again? why should authorities be able to tell a business to hire less white people without that being considered racism |
| Topic | Why is Conservative politcal satire nonexistent? |
| pls 10/18/17 11:48:10 AM #62 | because the left satirizes itself |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 11:47:50 AM #48 | l Dudeboy l posted... You're saying the same things that have been said for 20+ years. uh the sources I just googled are all within the last couple of years so l Dudeboy l posted... You don't require a gun to defend yourself, and gun owners in America have very rarely prevented an attack. when someone attacks you with a knife or a gun, the point of self defense is to make sure you're protecting yourself effectively. guns are effective self defense. in america gun owners have not "rarely" prevented an attack or protected themselves. it's happened a lot more than you believe. your bias against gun rights (due to you being a shill in the UK) is more important to you than actually looking at firearms from an objective perspective. america has a huge number of guns and gun owners and a tiny amount of gun violence when all the numbers are considered. you're being brainwashed by media. |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 11:41:50 AM #46 | l Dudeboy l posted... pls posted...spikethedevil posted...Yes with our decent health care system and lack of gun problems. it'll collapse, it's just a matter of time before you can't keep propping it up anymore. as for the violence, you have a lot of violence and a lot of people are left defenseless because criminals have weapons anyway. gl hf your country sucks |
| Topic | UK firms given 4 years to increase # of ethnic minority director numbers. |
| pls 10/18/17 11:37:06 AM #43 | spikethedevil posted... Yes with our decent health care system and lack of gun problems. your healthcare system is on the verge of collapsing and your city has plenty of violence issues even without guns. |
| Topic | Woman cooks her two children in an oven, charged with murder |
| pls 10/18/17 11:19:06 AM #26 | ConfessPlease posted... Shit. I didn't need to read this. |
| Topic | California becomes first state to legally recognize nonbinary genders |
| pls 10/17/17 4:50:46 PM #23 | UncleBourbon33 posted... No wonder California is on fire |
| Topic | Shooting at Virgina State university |
| pls 10/17/17 1:48:56 PM #16 | GOATTHlEF posted... "there is no way to stop this from happening." says the only nation where this keeps happening. didn't the London mayor say the same thing about Islamic terrorism in his city |
| Topic | Trump drops $600 million and 92 spots to 248th place in Forbes's 2017 rich list |
| pls 10/17/17 1:47:45 PM #17 | He didn't use his power to make himself richer, you imbecile. |
| Topic | Shooting at Virgina State university |
| pls 10/17/17 1:47:11 PM #13 | Shooting crimes have been on the decline for decades. And wait a second, why is it that the usual suspects shitpost about America and guns whenever these tragedies happen, but then chide conservatives for shitposting about Islamic terrorism whenever those tragedies happen? yall sure know how to pretend to have a moral highground |
| Topic | Trump drops $600 million and 92 spots to 248th place in Forbes's 2017 rich list |
| pls 10/17/17 1:44:03 PM #12 | Trump wants to run for President, "He just wants to use the power to make himself richer!!!" Trump loses net worth due to becoming President, "Hahaha he's not even making money anymore!!!" |
| Topic | Viking textile does NOT actually say "Allah" on it |
| pls 10/17/17 1:43:06 PM #21 | Reporting on updates to this story means it bothered me some substantial amount. CE logic. |
| Topic | Viking textile does NOT actually say "Allah" on it |
| pls 10/17/17 11:20:42 AM #5 | how on god's green earth is my tl;dr misleading at all? |
| Topic | Viking textile does NOT actually say "Allah" on it |
| pls 10/17/17 10:56:55 AM #1 | https://twitter.com/stephenniem/status/919897406031978496 tl;dr attempts at painting the Vikings as Muslims is just revisionist history |
| Topic | What's up with everyone always freaking about SJW's? |
| pls 10/17/17 8:40:31 AM #3 | they influence policy and theyre brainwashing students into becoming sjws from a young age |
| Topic | Hell yeah, California now recognizes that there are more than two genders |
| pls 10/17/17 12:01:09 AM #11 | CenaIsTheGOAT posted... How many genders do you need? just male and female |
| Topic | SJWs have claimed another victim: Thomas The Tank Engine |
| pls 10/16/17 11:50:12 PM #59 | SJWism is a mental illness |
| Topic | Elliot Rodger and the Toxic Weight of Virginity |
| pls 10/16/17 11:31:30 PM #9 | Delirious_Beard posted... it's not about the act of sex great analysis imo theyre basically walking examples of how pride and stubborness can cripple someone. pretty much anyone can get laid. |
| Topic | spoilers: mal_fet is frisbeedude |
| pls 10/16/17 11:29:41 PM #38 | Kim Kusanagi posted... Mal_Fet posted...This is a sad topic. didnt you mock a user who died |
| Topic | Anyone else scared of XSquader? |
| pls 10/16/17 11:23:38 PM #20 | those kids were fast as lightning |
| Topic | Here are the states most affected by Trump's health care executive order |
| pls 10/16/17 8:36:25 PM #15 | NinjaBreakfast posted... while not unexpected, I hate the smug centrist bs where people laugh at (usually poor) people who voted for Trump suffering as a result. fuck that shit. the left does not care about healthcare and wellness if it's conservatives being affected |
| Topic | If a person has $10,000 in the bank.... smart to buy a new car? |
| pls 10/16/17 4:48:03 PM #15 | buy a used car for $5000 cash |
| Topic | Anyone else scared of XSquader? |
| pls 10/16/17 3:57:43 PM #19 | Kitt posted... What if two Xsquaders got into a confrontation with one another? Like, they both whip out their phones and record one another while hurling insults. How would that even conclude? An unstoppable force would be meeting an immovable object. God himself would cower in fear. |
| Topic | I'm now officially refusing to see a dentist and my parents are mad |
| pls 10/16/17 3:13:08 PM #2 | Zikten posted... I'm just gonna let my teeth rot. f*** it that's a sane and productive solution! |
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