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Rika_Furude posted...

where did i troll itt? it justs seems like you people are harassing me for no reason...
why do you always do this...

I said you troll a lot, not that you trolled ITT. There are plenty of instances where you're not a very nice poster, so people in turn aren't very nice to you.
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Rika_Furude posted...

why do you people always bully me?

We've been through this. You troll a lot.
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ModLogic posted...

Kitt posted...

I would like to see a mod weigh in on this.

rofl you expect too much from those useless peons

A mod already weighed in on this though
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edededdy posted...

this is what pms are for

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I didn't know you could say anything more than bump
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Error1355 posted...

The best answer is if you're the topic creator and don't want it posted in anymore, lock the topic.

This really isn't a focus of the mod staff anymore unless it's a long string of nothing but bumps.

Makes sense, thanks!
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flat_tyre posted...

Huh? I didn't even know a Mario Land 3 even existed until I read this topic...

It's called Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land. Maybe that sounds more familiar?
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spikethedevil posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

In terms of policy, Obama was way more of a dictator than Trump is.

But you were just saying how Obama advocated breaking the 2nd Amendment. Why are you now all of a sudden talking about policy again?

How can you break an amendment/change? You can change it again yes but not break it.

Sorry, maybe "violate" is a better word to use huh
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Kajagogo posted...

It's funny that this dead topic was bumped.

thatsthejoke.jpg
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Bump
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

In terms of policy, Obama was way more of a dictator than Trump is.

But you were just saying how Obama advocated breaking the 2nd Amendment. Why are you now all of a sudden talking about policy again?
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Mal_Fet posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

The question you quoted specifically mentioned taking control away from corporations. That's how it's different from just social democracy.

No, social democracies do that.

How so, most social democrat countries have a lower corporate tax rate than the US, even after the tax cuts

And a few more regulations on minimum wage and the like isn't wresting control from them either

Regulations definitely are a tool for the government to take a more active role in managing the economy. The question did not say "wrestling control from companies". The Swedish model fits the description given in the study.
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Mal_Fet posted...

The question you quoted specifically mentioned taking control away from corporations. That's how it's different from just social democracy.

No, social democracies do that.
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Mal_Fet posted...

scar the 1 posted...

The socialism defined in the study is not the same as the ostensible socialism of Venezuela.

Mal_Fet posted...

Wresting control from the corporations for the purposes of providing services to everyone is exactly what the Venezuelan government did.

Social democracies don't involve the government taking control of the economy. They just entail more government services and wealth redistribution.

Wealth distribution definitely qualifies as "government to take a larger role in managing the economy to make sure that every individual has equal access to basic necessities and public goods, even if that means that some people have to transfer their wealth to others".
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Mal_Fet posted...

Socialism is the progressive ideal. Every major socialist praised Venezuela right up until they're economy collapsed like every other socialist state's did. Ergo, Venezuela is the result of the progressive ideal.

The socialism defined in the study is not the same as the ostensible socialism of Venezuela.
Socialism has different meanings in different contexts. You know this. Just like how The People's Republic of China isn't the Republican ideal just because they both happen to use the same word.
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Mal_Fet posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

No, I took issue with you falling into a trap of painting whole populations with views they don't have based on incorrect reasoning...

And I deferred to your judgment and replaced the example I used with one that doesn't have the issues you raised.

What's. the. problem?

That it in no way supports the notion that Venezuela is the progressivist ideal
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Mal_Fet posted...

Obama literally advocated for confiscation....

And Trump has advocated banning dissent, but with him it's very important for you to stick to policy because rhetoric means nothing. Consistency Mal
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Mal_Fet posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Ctrl+F Venezuela etc

What? Wresting control from the corporations for the purposes of providing services to everyone is exactly what the Venezuelan government did.

The description forgiven given in the poll also fits a range of democracies that have already been mentioned ITT. It's not a description that only fits Venezuela, or even fits Venezuela the best. The "socialism" in the study is clearly defined to include social democracies.
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The Politico story said...

The two competing economic theories were described to respondents by the pollster. Socialism was defined as a system for those who believe corporations have too much control and that the capitalist system is set up to favor the rich and powerful, and that the only way to police corporations and protect the citizens is for the government to take a larger role in managing the economy to make sure that every individual has equal access to basic necessities and public goods, even if that means that some people have to transfer their wealth to others."

Free market capitalism, meanwhile, was described as the world-view for those who say that its not the governments job to pick winners and losers and that government intervention only leads to inefficiency. They say that capitalism produces the greatest amount of personal and economic freedom for every individual and [it] ultimately results in the best economic outcome for society, even if some people are left behind because they cant compete.

After hearing those descriptions, 40 percent of the overall primary voters said they preferred the former, compared to 25 percent who picked the latter.

Ctrl+F Venezuela etc
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Who cares if he's smart or not. I'm just hoping you (Mal) learn enough about the scientific method some day so you can manage your studies.
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Mal_Fet posted...

I referred specifically to what the top Democrats want to do. It's great that they're so far powerless to enforce it, but that doesn't change that a total gun ban is what they want.

I mean, this line of reasoning is exactly what you dismiss when people here call Trump fascist. Then it's perfectly fine to just consider his policies, now you go by rhetoric. At least have some consistency fam
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Mal_Fet posted...

Just pointing out to someone who thinks people have a problem with Black Panther having a majority black cast that there are actually only people who have a problem with settings with mostly white people.

Yeah, I've seen similar criticism about some Polish studio (was it maybe for The Witcher? I don't remember). I think that response was a lot better - essentially it was something like "stop trying to inject YOUR problems into OUR culture, that's literally the CA that you bemoan".
I don't really care for that Czech guy's conclusion that "gypsy" isn't a slur. How about ask Romani people about that. But that's a bit off-topic I guess.
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l Dudeboy l posted...

Why does it bother you?

It doesn't necessarily bother me. I just think there's a mismatch between what I would consider obvious trolling or disruptive posting and the way the rules here are enforced. So it'd be cool to hear a rationale.
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Mal_Fet posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I love LotR, but it's not really a great example of fiction dealing sensibly with race, lol. It's quite literally the story of bermensch fighting dirty Arabs. So eh

Ok, how about Kingdom Come Deliverance set in medieval Bohemia

https://www.facebook.com/kingdomcomewarhorse/posts/10202252144139136

Haven't seen it. What about it?

People made a stink about how the game featured only white people. What I linked to is the dev's response to it.

Ok. What about it?
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There are accounts whose entire gimmick is bumping dead topics, to the extent that their name is e.g., M3sterybumper.
I'm just curious, what more does it take to qualify as actual trolling/disruptive posting?

Thanks.
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Mal_Fet posted...

That article references private sales, not sales through a gun show proprietor. And if you watched the video I posted, you'd know why the statistics cited are nonsense.

Well I'm in a public place without headphones, would you mind providing a more credible and readable source than a YouTube video? I don't know a lot pig the technicalities about these things, so I'm happy to learn.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Venezuela is the progressive ideal. Not any of the countries you named.

I feel like you've really invented your own definition of progressivism, lol
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Mal_Fet posted...

Zeeak4444 posted...

You realize I was reinforcing his "stricter background checks" statement right.

You know that the background checks at fairs are no less strict than they are at any gun store, right.

What about this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

?
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It's maybe slightly dishonest to call Venezuela a progressive country. Progressive countries would be like Canada, northern Europe, Netherlands, Germany etc
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Mal_Fet posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I love LotR, but it's not really a great example of fiction dealing sensibly with race, lol. It's quite literally the story of bermensch fighting dirty Arabs. So eh

Ok, how about Kingdom Come Deliverance set in medieval Bohemia

https://www.facebook.com/kingdomcomewarhorse/posts/10202252144139136

Haven't seen it. What about it?
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Zeeak4444 posted...

There's only one side that refuses to take any steps with gun control.

I agree. And in the current climate, the other side often concerns itself with steps that give good optics. But in no way do I think the sides are "equally to blame". I just think both sides suck at having this discussion.
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Mal_Fet posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Background checks, on the other hand, is something that most Americans agree with, however the people paying Congress politicians don't.

Background checks are required to buy a gun in every state in the country.

At fairs also? Although I think that what I'm referring to is stricter background checks.
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Zeeak4444 posted...

I could be wrong but hasn't almost the entirety of gun control in the last decade surrounded ARs and background checks?

ARs seem to be a hot topic because they look scary and have been involved in some recent incidents. Easy to play on people's emotions and call for their ban.
Background checks, on the other hand, is something that most Americans agree with, however the people paying Congress politicians don't.
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Mal_Fet posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Okay now show me the graphs for mass shootings, specifically focusing on school shootings worldwide.

Why, because the graphs for the overall homicide rate completely blows your argument out of the water?

It's not worse to be killed in a mass shooting than it is to be killed in any other circumstance. That's why the homicide rate is what matters.

Like so often before Mal, you present some interesting stats very poorly. What type of analysis was done? (I'm assuming the datapoints are countries.) What other factors were taken into account and corrected for? Essentially you present incomplete data without describing the method used, then you draw the conclusions way too far. You really need to step up your science game.
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FWIW, I think Americans suck at talking about guns. One side often wants blanket bans (fishing for votes) and the other side cries fascism as soon as anything with the word "gun" in it gets proposed. Meanwhile they're in a deadlock and won't even fund the appropriate research to begin understanding the issue.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

scar the 1 posted...

I love LotR, but it's not really a great example of fiction dealing sensibly with race, lol. It's quite literally the story of bermensch fighting dirty Arabs. So eh

Are you talking about the men of Rhun and Haradrim and stuff?

Also there are the wild men who fought on Saruman's side against Rohan. Those people would have definitely been like Anglo-Saxon or Scandinavian.

Yeah, the people from Umbar etc down to the southeast. And Aragorn is literally an bermensch, being a Dnedain.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Further, progressives (in general) want free healthcare, free housing, free tampons, free sex changes, and little or no work required of them. Where do you find all these things?

Prison.

This just isn't true. Women in US prisons have to work tons of hours just to be able to afford tampons and toilet paper.
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I love LotR, but it's not really a great example of fiction dealing sensibly with race, lol. It's quite literally the story of bermensch fighting dirty Arabs. So eh
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Sativa_Rose posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

well if y(x) = e^x

y'(x) = e^x

What if y is Ce^x?

y'(x) = e^x is what I am guessing, but I didn't look it up.

I was trying to get you to think about it, not trying to one-up you.

Oh okay, I didn't think you were trying to one-up me, but is that right?

Sorry again I'm dumb. I edited my post explaining. If we set C=1 we get e^x.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

well if y(x) = e^x

y'(x) = e^x

What if y is Ce^x?

y'(x) = e^x is what I am guessing, but I didn't look it up.

I was trying to get you to think about it, not trying to one-up you.
EDIT: I misread again, sry. This is a bad morning for me.

Derivative doesnt care about constant factors, if the function is Cf(x) then just differentiate and keep the C, Cf'(x)
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Sativa_Rose posted...

well if y(x) = e^x

y'(x) = e^x

What if y is Ce^x?
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Maybe the constant should be somewhere else...
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PikachuMaxwell posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

y(x)=e^x+C

Bingo! Although just to nitpick, you're missing something that would generalize the solution....

Actually no.
d(e^x + C)/dx does not equal e^x + C
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I'm pretty embarrassed that I didn't get this at once tbh. Lol
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PikachuMaxwell posted...

scar the 1 posted...

y(x) is a function whose primitive function is differentiable.

Perhaps, but there's a more specific answer I'm looking for.

In other words, I'm asking what functions are equal to their derivatives?

Ohh. I wasn't reading properly.
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y(x) is a function whose primitive function is differentiable.
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