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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 4:00:50 PM
#79
Dustin1280 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Did the OP ever claim any accuracy?

The OP didn't need to, it's simple a "study" was posted that was completely inaccurate, i called it out for what it was.

At least Covxy had somewhat of a point.

You are just being contrary for the hell of it.

My whole motivation for this little spat has been your insistent discrediting of something that doesn't try to pass itself off as credible, and your doing so with the very tired and often uninformed "sample size" argument. As if the tiny sample is the largest flaw of the study.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 3:53:09 PM
#77
Did the OP ever claim any accuracy?
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 3:48:44 PM
#75
So you're saying that the sample size needs to be the same regardless if the sample is synthetic or random?
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 3:44:18 PM
#72
Dustin1280 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
That presents a FAR more accurate example then a random sample size of 27 people with no control whatsoever.

The sample wasn't random, though, it was quite synthetic.

The fact that he selected people who liked his fake profile changes nothing I have said other then a minor semantics issue.

The difference between a random and a synthetic sample is more than just semantics. You know that.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 3:39:28 PM
#70
Dustin1280 posted...
That presents a FAR more accurate example then a random sample size of 27 people with no control whatsoever.

The sample wasn't random, though, it was quite synthetic.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 12:55:18 PM
#53
GFaceKillah1280 posted...
Uh maybe I'm completely missing something, but I don't see any data justifying his 80/20 claim, or what "attractiveness" means or how it was measured. Coupled with the highly non-representative sample, the "study" is basically worthless.

What it means in the context of the experiment is simply "likelihood of getting liked back if you were to like everyone". So it's not really a strong metric in the first place.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 12:20:36 PM
#45
Howl posted...
scar the 1 posted...
But the female friends I have are a lot more interested in the holistic impression of a profile


What a fucking load of bullshit. Women want the best looking guy with the most amount of money that they can get based on their own self esteem level. What a man does, his personality, how good of a person he is, who his friends are, even his style in terms of dress are completely irrelevant to whether or not a woman finds him attractive.

I'm sure you know tons of women that verify this incel garbage you cling to.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 11:50:34 AM
#40
Well duh. It's a poppy blog post, not a paper.
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scar the 1
10/08/17 11:40:19 AM
#37
Dustin1280 posted...
Yes well I don't like people trying to state something as true when they have almost no data to back up said statement.

He has a giant section outlining the flaws of his experiment. In fact, the only reason you know about his sample size is because he told you. So your whole concern is essentially a non-concern, since he isn't saying his results are truth.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 11:19:01 AM
#32
Dustin1280 posted...
That is a bulls*** statement driven by his personal bias, how anyone can give ANY credence to this farce of a "study" is beyond me...

CookieMarvin posted...
why are you trying to defend such a poorly conducted study. what are you getting out of it

It's not a very serious study. He did a little experiment for fun. He himself doesn't give it much credence. Calling it a farce or "poorly conducted" just means you're taking it more seriously than the author, who was just having a little fun adapting socio-economic metrics on Tinder.
I'm just responding to the very worn-out internet complaint about sample size.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 11:08:55 AM
#28
Dustin1280 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
By the looks of it he based his entire dataset on what only 27 people said...

Which means that there's a bigger likelihood that his model is inaccurate. Not that it's complete bullshit.

Ok, it may not be complete bullshit, but to argue it's something we can actually trust is foolish.

27 people is not even remotely a trustworthy sample, the margin for error is far to huge...

Depending on what you want to ascertain...
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 11:06:12 AM
#25
Dustin1280 posted...
By the looks of it he based his entire dataset on what only 27 people said...

Which means that there's a bigger likelihood that his model is inaccurate. Not that it's complete bullshit.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 11:02:39 AM
#22
Dustin1280 posted...
This is a key point from that article:
First, the sample size is small (only 27 females were interviewed).

So it's basically a bunch of bullshit

That's not what a small sample size means.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 10:55:17 AM
#17
COVxy posted...
I mean, is this type of results really surprising to anyone?

Certainly doesn't justify the type of rhetoric that comes with the "chad" terminology, though.

No, but TC is Philoktetes so you can safely disregard that.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 9:51:18 AM
#14
Sativa_Rose posted...
Yeah I have talked with my friends about this and we think that Tinder is basically causing damage to the young female psyche.

My bold theory is that it isn't Tinder, it's that it's men.
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TopicAutistic 15 year old pleads guilty to hacking ex-CIA director's computer
scar the 1
10/08/17 8:49:06 AM
#24
ChromaticAngel posted...
scar the 1 posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
tote_all posted...
You use a language, in a very specific way, to hack.

You don't know much about hacking. I can probably break into your PC using nothing but drag and drop if I had physical access to it.

And that's got very little to do with the skillset required to successfully do what this kid allegedly did.

What this kid allegedly did isn't stated in the video. Just that he tried and didn't even succeed.

Fair enough
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TopicAutistic 15 year old pleads guilty to hacking ex-CIA director's computer
scar the 1
10/08/17 8:44:26 AM
#21
ChromaticAngel posted...
tote_all posted...
You use a language, in a very specific way, to hack.

You don't know much about hacking. I can probably break into your PC using nothing but drag and drop if I had physical access to it.

And that's got very little to do with the skillset required to successfully do what this kid allegedly did.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 8:37:31 AM
#11
Darkman124 posted...
a lot of these guys are able to just message something stupid and get a response, because they're already in. and the study does kind of indicate that being 'above average' on a service like tinder is simply nowhere near good enough. the lazy messages don't come from nowhere; they are men responding to the lack of incentive for effort in making a respectful and meaningful first contact. if 99 of 100 messages are unread, and the last 1 gets a response based on your profile and not the message, why make that message good? we always assume that men being s***ty on these dating sites is because the men are s***ty, but we should also consider what incentives drive that behavior.

It's a good point, but I don't think it's unique to online dating. Guys are similarly lazy (or entitled) in clubs. Just look at how buying a drink is often seen as something that warrants something in return. While you might have a point, I'm not sure that direct incentives alone explain the shittiness.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 8:17:54 AM
#9
Annihilated posted...
He didn't address the number of male Tinder users vs the number of females. I estimate it would be at least 3 to 1.

Well he did say that he doesn't have access to that kind of data.
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TopicAutistic 15 year old pleads guilty to hacking ex-CIA director's computer
scar the 1
10/08/17 7:37:14 AM
#18
Rika_Furude posted...
tote_all posted...
as hacking is a language

its math, or not even math. its definitely not a language

I have some colleagues who do research on cybersecurity and hacking in particular, and they 100% treat it like a language problem. Can't speak much to the specifics since it's not my topic, but if you want I can ask next week and get back to you.
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TopicTinder researchers have scientifically proven Chad is real
scar the 1
10/08/17 6:32:40 AM
#7
Pretty neat piece of work. A big flaw he isn't mentioning directly is that likes don't necessarily come out of physical attraction. He sort of addresses this with the assumption that every woman finds the same profiles attractive. But the female friends I have are a lot more interested in the holistic impression of a profile rather than just physical appearance. Like, what style does he have (suit, pothead, surfer, etc), where is the picture taken (nightclub with friends, wildlife trek, bathroom, etc), and what does the profile say. There was a TED X talk IIRC with a woman who did some analysis on optimal profile, quite interesting.

In summary, though, considering the amount of guys who start the conversation with stuff like "wanna fuck?" (and the amount of guys on here who see no problem with that) and fling insults at the slightest rejection, it shouldn't be so difficult to be an above average guy. Just learn how to present yourself to the type of girl you're looking to meet, and write a good, not too short, not too long profile text, and you'll be fine.
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TopicAutistic 15 year old pleads guilty to hacking ex-CIA director's computer
scar the 1
10/08/17 6:04:44 AM
#11
_Schwarzlicht_ posted...
tote_all posted...
Also I doubt he's autistic, much more likely on the spectrum.


Doesn't 'the spectrum' refer to the spectrum of different types/severities of autism?

Yeah. What used to be called Asperger's is now placed on the spectrum as well. Since the severity varies so much between individuals.
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TopicWould you bump the Gamefaqd legal joining age to 16 for boobs?
scar the 1
10/07/17 11:27:59 AM
#11
If I want porn I'll go to a porn site. I don't need instant gratification everywhere I look.
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TopicDragon Ball Z Kai - Buu Saga spoilers
scar the 1
10/06/17 11:45:25 AM
#14
JustMyOpinion posted...
He did it with Master Roshi. Yes, Roshi is stronger but they both have miniscule power levels.

Roshi is stronger by at least two orders of magnitude. That's huge. Given how things usually fall off at least with distance squared if not more, that he could feel Roshi means nothing.
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TopicDragon Ball Z Kai - Buu Saga spoilers
scar the 1
10/06/17 11:30:56 AM
#10
Scotty_Rogers posted...
Pow Pow Punishment posted...
Goku needs a ki to lock on to before he teleports somewhere and I doubt he could have sensed Bulma's parents at Capsule Corp.


I'm pretty sure he knew the general direction of Capsule Corp. That should have helped with sensing Bulma's parents

I know the general direction of Poland, that doesn't help in seeing their ants.
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TopicBerkeley students interrupt midterm, call test-takers white supremacists *video*
scar the 1
10/06/17 9:52:22 AM
#20
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
Doom_Art posted...
show me on the doll where Berkeley touched you, Mal


Here's our first triggered

Anybody else?

s may seem brittle on their own, but have you seen what happens when there are many of them?
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TopicWoman Takes Selfies With Guys Who Catcalls Her
scar the 1
10/06/17 2:05:33 AM
#151
dave_is_slick posted...
I'm not talking about catcalling, just telling people to smile. Kinda made it clear that I think catcalling is f***ing sleazy.

And I was addressing your comparison to racism. Just take my entire point and change the catcalling bit to telling you to smile instead.
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TopicGreat I might have caused myself a diabeetus
scar the 1
10/05/17 4:39:18 PM
#7
LCHF can literally reverse type 2 diabetes dw fam
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TopicWoman Takes Selfies With Guys Who Catcalls Her
scar the 1
10/05/17 3:24:26 PM
#129
dave_is_slick posted...
First off, I don't deny some guys mean it like that. But to assume everyone means it like that is too close to what leads people to be racist and all other hateful things. If it's wrong to assume all black people are a certain way, it's wrong to assume all men are a certain way.

If black people and only black people groped you on crowded subway trains, groped you in nightclubs, followed you after turning them down, kept writing "let's fuck" again and again after you ignore them on social medias (and many other examples of expressing entitlement to your body) and none of this were a rare occurrence, I wouldn't blame you for being on your toes when black people catcalled you. That's the distinction. Men constantly feel entitled to women's bodies in private and in public. It's not a prejudice, it's a cautious attitude women get taught since childhood. Both because they're subjected to it, and because they live in a culture where it's the norm. The norm is for guys to be persistent, and to make advances while women should be passive. Etc.
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TopicWoman Takes Selfies With Guys Who Catcalls Her
scar the 1
10/05/17 11:04:42 AM
#69
It's fun to see how some people are all like "this is not so common", which is almost an admission that it would be bad if it were, then others are all like "so what? Grow thicker skin" just because somehow if you're a woman and someone is rude to you then the correct course of action is to just bend over and take it.
No one in that camp seems to put this in any sort of reasonable context, like a context where men feel entitled to women's bodies all over public spaces and women are getting sick of it.
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TopicSo how long is your finger suppose to smell after...?
scar the 1
10/04/17 6:48:50 PM
#25
Don't people know how to wash their hands properly? Very hot water, soap, rough texture.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/04/17 12:03:48 PM
#123
Asherlee10 posted...
Firearms are already registered upon purchase. The last firearm I purchased I was asked what I intended to do with my new firearm. It would be very easy for me to lie and my remarks would be set in stone based on that interview. I don't follow what you are trying to accomplish here.

Yeah but I'm suggesting limiting the number and specs based on what you answer. And requiring licenses for most purposes dealing with potent ammo.

And without knowing his psych profile, we have no idea what would dissuade him or make his actions less effective.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/04/17 11:50:27 AM
#120
Asherlee10 posted...
All of this is dependent on people telling the truth, which they will not. And we run into the same issue that this punishes law-abiding citizens.

Any regulation such as I provide would have to rely on registering gun ownership. So, if you purchase a firearm, you it would have to be registered. Meaning that not telling the truth would be more difficult than just saying "no" if the seller asks you a question - you would have to fudge the state/national registry somehow. And I completely agree that it would punish law-abiding citizens. That's not something I tried to avoid with my hypothetical :)
Point is, I'm addressing the fact (is it a fact?) that the most recent mass shooter had a seemingly large arsenal of firearms purchased legally. Under my hypothetical he would have had to either buy stuff illegally, borrow it illegally, or illegally alter his registry. Would it keep him from committing the crime? I don't know, I guess not? I know that it would make the preparations he made a lot more difficult/impossible to do legally.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/04/17 11:13:33 AM
#118
Asherlee10 posted...
How do you catch a guy like that before he goes on a shooting spree?

Well, what you could do is regulate gun ownership somehow. I'm throwing out a hypothetical that might have made this particular case more difficult. Indulge me.
Let's say you regulate gun ownership on a basis of "why do you want to own a gun?". Is it for hunting? Let's limit the number of owned hunting rifles at one time then, and require an active hunter's license on purchase.
Is it for sport? Let's limit the number of sporting firearms, and require an active sporting license and intent to compete in the following year or so.
Is it for collecting? Let's require such weapons to be disabled such that they can't be fired.
Is it recreational? Let's set a limit on number of weapons owned for recreational purpose, and their specs etc.
Is it self defense? Similarly, set a limit on number and specs.
Additionally, why not limit the ammo you're allowed to buy to stuff that fits the weapons you own and the purposes you own them for.
You get the picture. I'm not up to speed with all the details of this case, but didn't he have an astounding amount of firearms? With regulations such as those I provide, you'd definitely make it a lot more difficult for him to acquire all of those guns legally.

However, this hypothetical is very restrictive, and only prevents him from getting so many guns so easily. I'm not saying it would have a desired effect on the actual shooting.
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TopicUS votes against UN resolution condemning death penalty for gay people
scar the 1
10/04/17 9:22:37 AM
#62
I mean it sounds like data that should be easily collected by a web crawler you throw together in ten minutes or something.
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TopicUS votes against UN resolution condemning death penalty for gay people
scar the 1
10/04/17 9:17:30 AM
#60
Point taken. What are the odds that the federal govt will comply and provide the information you think?
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TopicUS votes against UN resolution condemning death penalty for gay people
scar the 1
10/04/17 9:07:34 AM
#57
Darkman124 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Makes kind of sense, not really a good moral defense, though.


not at all, but probably a better decision than to vote in favor and then not participate in the call to action

i agree with polycosm that abstaining is probably a better message still

Well abstaining might be a better message, but if what you outline in your post are the true motivations, abstaining still doesn't make sense, since it could make them lose a vote they would want to win.
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TopicMost weight loss advice on the internet is baloney
scar the 1
10/04/17 8:44:34 AM
#29
Lower your carb intake. It might or might not make you lose a lot of weight, but it's healthy:

https://www.dietdoctor.com/dangerous-shortcuts-actually-supported-science
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TopicUS votes against UN resolution condemning death penalty for gay people
scar the 1
10/04/17 8:36:23 AM
#51
Darkman124 posted...
since the death penalty is a state decision in america, our federal govt would have to negotiate for this info with all 50 states

because it doesnt want to do that it likely voted against in order to say 'we will hear this call and do nothing'

Makes kind of sense, not really a good moral defense, though.
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TopicUS votes against UN resolution condemning death penalty for gay people
scar the 1
10/04/17 8:14:31 AM
#47
@The_Admiral posted...
http://ilga.org/downloads/HRC36_resolution_question_death_penalty.pdf

Here's the resolution. Like I guessed, this LGBT stuff is a trivial portion of a larger resolution meant to gut the death penalty.

By all means, do elaborate on what specifically in that document warrants a no vote from the US.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/04/17 7:15:02 AM
#115
Sativa_Rose posted...
I have a lot of trouble believing that statistic, particularly when homicide rates are so much higher in countries like El Salvador. I would believe that if it just looks at first world nations though, but you have to remember that the next highest population first world nation after the US at ~320 million is Japan at around ~125 million.

If you control for gang-related gun violence maybe you'll get a more honest statistic about the type of mass shooting these discussions typically try to address.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/04/17 6:25:04 AM
#111
Yeah, is it strange that a shooting inspires talk about gun control?
If you're upset that the media are blaming the NRA for this, send them angry emails or YouTube comments or whatever. Pretty much everybody ITT is well aware that background checks probably would have done very little in this case, so quit your insistent nagging about it. WE KNOW. You don't have to point it out with your every breath to a crowd that already agrees.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/04/17 6:15:31 AM
#109
Sativa_Rose posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
but it's also true that this wouldn't have prevented the shooting.

NO ONE IS SAYING THAT


There are people yelling things like "Why don't the Republicans just accept COMMON SENSE gun control so we can prevent tragedies like this!!!!" all over social media, including a lot of politicians btw.

Yeah but you're responding to a guy who repeatedly in this very topic made the point that this particular shooting would have been very hard to prevent with regulation. Yet you keep bringing it up over and over again like a broken clock.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/04/17 6:12:09 AM
#106
Sativa_Rose posted...
but it's also true that this wouldn't have prevented the shooting.

NO ONE IS SAYING THAT
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TopicDragon Ball Z Kai - Buu Saga spoilers
scar the 1
10/04/17 3:47:04 AM
#3
Can we argue a bit more about the power level of kid Buu please
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TopicMeredith was the worst character on The Office
scar the 1
10/04/17 2:23:04 AM
#4
The whole original ensemble was pretty great. They were all a believable character just taken a little bit further. Well except maybe Kevin.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/03/17 12:21:55 PM
#91
Asherlee10 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Balrog0 posted...
around 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides

maybe 1/6 are gang-related, or about 1/2 of all gun homicides

Which strongly supports the case that guns shouldn't be easily and really available. A lot of suicides could be prevented.


I think we are just assuming they would. I'm not so sure, though.

We're quite safely assuming. Suicide rates have been shown to go down when readily available means are restricted. E.g., when gas ovens stopped being a thing in the UK, or safety railing on bridges. Not just "people committed suicide other ways", but actually rates dropping. This is tied to the nature of suicide. It takes a great deal of energy and conviction from someone who doesn't typically have much to spare. To have to go through a long and difficult process dissuades a lot of people. Having a really available gun that'll kill you at the squeeze of a finger doesn't.
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TopicBetter gun control will obviously stop many mass shootings
scar the 1
10/03/17 12:15:23 PM
#86
Balrog0 posted...
around 2/3 of gun deaths are suicides

maybe 1/6 are gang-related, or about 1/2 of all gun homicides

Which strongly supports the case that guns shouldn't be easily and really available. A lot of suicides could be prevented.
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TopicIt's annoying how every single day is a "National something Day"
scar the 1
10/03/17 10:54:38 AM
#16
shnangyboos posted...
Isn't today National Shut the Fuck Up Day?

Then wtf are you doing?
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Topic*RPG character uses a gun as its attack*
scar the 1
10/03/17 10:31:06 AM
#25
Kineth posted...
scar the 1 posted...
What kind of shitty RPG are you playing where guns don't do fixed damage


What kind of game has static damage?

A good one
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