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TopicWhen did colleges and universities become liberal indoctrination centers?
scar the 1
09/08/17 2:13:02 AM
#143
Zeeak4444 posted...
Fair enough. When I think asking for hand in marriage I think 18 year old talking to his highschool sweet heart or old fashioned gentleman asking the father.

Well yeah, that's the modern day phenomenon. However the tradition didn't just spring up from nowhere. It came from exactly what you're describing in your second paragraph.
"Hey, I want to marry your daughter."
"Hmm, nope, your estate isn't big enough, I decline."
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TopicWhen did colleges and universities become liberal indoctrination centers?
scar the 1
09/08/17 2:00:49 AM
#141
Zeeak4444 posted...
Or, you know, arranged marriages.

Yeah, but that's kinda what "asking the father for his daughter's hand in marriage" is.
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TopicWhen did colleges and universities become liberal indoctrination centers?
scar the 1
09/08/17 1:58:39 AM
#138
TradPaladin01 posted...
Pretty sure this is feminist mythology. How is today any different? Only difference is that men and women both have the luxury of being property of the state, now, thanks to the IRS.

So I guess the whole asking for the father's permission/father giving the daughter away at the wedding/man of the house/stay-at-home-mom/women voting rights coming much later/etc just came from nothing. "Feminist mythology" is probably the dumbest excuse I've heard today.
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TopicWhen did colleges and universities become liberal indoctrination centers?
scar the 1
09/08/17 1:48:16 AM
#135
NadYobWoc posted...
MutantJohn posted...
wtf did I walk in on lol?

Callixtus trolling

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TopicWhen did colleges and universities become liberal indoctrination centers?
scar the 1
09/08/17 1:42:59 AM
#132
Callixtus posted...
It was the norm in the West for thousands of years, and has worked quite well for all of that time.

I don't know how this topic came about, but you know that women were basically property until like the 20th century, right? "Worked quite well" is a bit of a laughable contention.
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TopicWhen did colleges and universities become liberal indoctrination centers?
scar the 1
09/08/17 1:31:06 AM
#129
So there was this Age of Enlightenment, it's on the internet, you can read about it. Liberalism and empiricism (foundation of modern science) both stem from that time. It's not very strange that academia is full of liberals when modern science is based on liberal philosophy. It sounds quite natural to me, actually, and I would expect that on top of the self selection COVxy mentions there is also a natural conversion - as you reason yourself to look at things with a scientific frame of mind, chances are it'll rub off on your reasoning skills. Which would lead you to favor the empirically optimal policies while still maintaining your moral foundation. That's a very liberal mindset.
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/07/17 4:15:52 PM
#73
ROBANN_88 posted...
i thought we voted against joining the EMU entirely, and the Euro would have been part of the EMU

From what I remember, the pro side's strongest argument was "We already joined the EMU, this is the final step of what we already promised", hence "Ja till euron", while the nay side wanted us out of the EMU completely, hence "Nej till EMU" specifically.
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/07/17 6:30:10 AM
#70
BalanceLost posted...
We held a referendum and the anti-Euro side won and the EU accepted the result.

AFAIK it was "should we adopt to the Euro at this time"? Because I was under the impression that we already entered the EMU and the Euro was just the final step, which we postponed indefinitely.
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/07/17 5:20:38 AM
#63
HellsingOrg posted...
So can other EU citizens just move over to Sweden now or is this just for migrants?

I would think that, by definition, a citizen from a non-Sweden EU country moving to Sweden would be a migrant. That's sort of what the word means.
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/06/17 4:39:53 PM
#57
lilJoe457 posted...
Why would anyone want the EU? Why would you want an institution that can override the laws made by the officials you elected? People you never elected can change rules. That's ridiculous.

Disregarding the inaccuracies of this, you realize we vote for the European parliament, too, right?
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/06/17 11:06:29 AM
#40
mattnd2007 posted...
US has its problems. But thank god we aren't beholden to the EU. Fuck the EU

I'd rather have the EU's problems tbh.
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/06/17 10:44:14 AM
#37
s0nicfan posted...
scar the 1 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Brexit was the result of the EU attempting to assert full control over the UK's sovereignty by going even further and telling them who they can and can't let into the country

lol


That probably is a silly sentence when divorced from the context of everything else I said.

No, it's a silly sentence even within that context :)
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/06/17 10:22:39 AM
#22
s0nicfan posted...
Brexit was the result of the EU attempting to assert full control over the UK's sovereignty by going even further and telling them who they can and can't let into the country

lol
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TopicThe EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th.
scar the 1
09/06/17 9:52:54 AM
#6
It'll be interesting to see this play out. I don't know much about the appeal process, but I would think that Sweden could try and make their case in an EU court that since a lot of other EU countries didn't honor their refugee agreements, borders had to be closed.
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