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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:40:45 PM
#247
shockthemonkey posted...
Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/959499923346677762

lmao the memo itself could all be fake news


Exactly. I want to see McCabes actual testimony and his answer before confirming that if that statement is true or false.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:31:33 PM
#235
KazumaKiryu posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I can't wait for them all to be fired and go to jail, including fucking Mueller.


Lmao why would Mueller be going to jail?


Because the entire investigation is a farce.


Just admit you want to lock up anyone who doesn't support Trump already
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:26:56 PM
#230
Doom_Art posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Look at Jeff Sessions defend Rosenstein and the Russia probe:

Didn't see that coming lol


Sessions actions, from his recusing to all his defense and statements on the probe, always made me think he knows a lot of legitimate legal issues with what happened with Russia and while he may be slightly involved, he's not completely cooked and is just trying to save his own ass.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:24:13 PM
#224
Look at Jeff Sessions defend Rosenstein and the Russia probe:

"Attorney General Jeff Sessions defended his deputy, Rod Rosenstein, on Friday in the face of criticism from the president, who wouldn't say if he still has confidence in Rosenstein.

Sessions broke from prepared remarks in a speech on human trafficking. He praised Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general who is overseeing the special counsel's Russia probe, as well as the department's No. 3 official, Rachel Brand.

Standing on a stage with them, Sessions said both are experienced lawyers and "represent the kind of quality and leadership that we want in the department."

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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:14:53 PM
#215
https://twitter.com/TGowdySC/status/959495152770469888


@TGowdySC
41m41 minutes ago

While this memo raises serious concerns with the FISA process, I have been and remain confident in the overwhelming majority of the men and women serving at the FBI and DOJ.



@TGowdySC

As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation.


Let me guess, Trey Gowdy is now considered a "corrupt RINO/secret Democrat!" now?
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:09:31 PM
#205
CEs_EFG posted...
you went from just shit posting "this is a nothing burger" to "i need more details!"

it's pretty damn sad imo at least don't try to show your bias before you get blasted from not even reading the memo


And clearly you don't want to discuss this issue or acknowledge any points and instead just throw random one-liners out. Shame
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:08:36 PM
#201
Caution998 posted...
We are at an impass.

Theres honestly no sense in even talking politics on here because nobody has an open mind:


Pot meet kettle.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:08:23 PM
#200
KazumaKiryu posted...
I can't wait for them all to be fired and go to jail, including fucking Mueller.


Lmao why would Mueller be going to jail?
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:05:09 PM
#191
CEs_EFG posted...
Frankly you went from "this is a nothing burger" to "i don't trust Nunes at all"

so I'm starting to question your bias since you clearly didn't read the memo in the beginning


And you've clearly ignored multiple points I've made this entire time. Since the start of this bullshit I've said I didn't trust Nunes at all and I wanted to full transcript of the testimonies, and now I'd like to read the actual FISA warrant for Page based on this memo. But this basically IS nothing, and if Trump uses this to fire Rosenstein it's going to blow back on him, hard.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:03:06 PM
#188
James Comey
@Comey

Thats it? Dishonest and misleading memo wrecked the House intel committee, destroyed trust with Intelligence Community, damaged relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an American citizen. For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.

1:47 PM - 2 Feb 2018

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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 2:01:01 PM
#182
Also matters that Page being under investigation since 2013 has led to 3 Russian spies being charged, which is conveniently left out of this.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:59:17 PM
#177
Vertania posted...
@The_Great_Muta_22 posted...
You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal.

It really doesn't matter if it's the only thing that lead to the warrant because:
1RC2KmE


Explain to me why Page had a FISA warrant issued against him since 2013 if the dossier was the only reason why. Frankly, until I see McCabe's testimony to the House Committee I don't trust Nunes at all. Hell, I'll at least wait to hear McCabe's own statement on that before determining that.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:55:54 PM
#174
CEs_EFG posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
No they didn't. You keep saying the dossier is false based on nothing at all. You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal.

f***ing ridiculous


it's pretty crazy you're assuming the dossier is legit just because "the lengths that FISA warrant's go" when there is a shit ton of evidence that a lot of it was from unreliable sources


That's not what I said at all. The dossier has had some pieces of information verified. It's also shown some pieces of information wrong. And it has other things that are unverified. I'm saying the FISA warrant renewal, which was signed off on FOUR separate times by different judges, isn't illegitimate because information from the dossier was included, as FISA warrants tend to have dozens of pieces of information used to get them accepted.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:52:08 PM
#166
mario2000 posted...
Caution998 posted...
mario2000 posted...
Caution998 posted...
A bunch of never Trumpers keeping themselves closed to the possibility their party is corrupt?

Color me surprised.

You could shove the facts in their face and theyll deny it every time.

No sense in even arguing about this

there's a "Never Trumper" party?


Its called the Democratic Party, brah

you do realize that it's possible to be anti-trump and not be a democrat, right?


Not according to his sycophants. Lifetime Republicans who have voted on party lines for years, as well as people promoted by Trump himself into their positions, are "secret Democrats out to get him!"
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:49:45 PM
#157
s0nicfan posted...
Because if the FBI used false information funded by campaign money (from either side) and excluded the source of that information in attempting to get undue access to a warrant... who exactly funded the research is irrelevant.


No they didn't. You keep saying the dossier is false based on nothing at all. You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal.

Fucking ridiculous
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:40:30 PM
#133
CEs_EFG posted...
that's 100% not true, opposition research does not include entities like the FBI shit that's ridiculous


You don't know what you're talking about. Research more into the past of these things and stop making stuff up as you go.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:39:35 PM
#127
CEs_EFG posted...
well with that logic i can just say that this is also not the full memo, but it clearly states that the source for the Dossier was paid for by the DNC and the fact that it was paid for was kept secret


What? This IS the full memo, the memo was always handpicked summary that Nunes felt was important. The full warrant application isn't available, and from the START I've been screaming that we need the entire information before we know anything. Likewise the dossier has been confirmed to have been paid by a Republican backed group during the primary and then when Trump won the services were funded by a group affiliated with the Democrats. Oppo research has been used all the times by investigators in seeking warrants.

Fucking Clinton Cash was used against Hillary and no one batted an eye!
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:35:07 PM
#111
s0nicfan posted...
The memo cites that the FBI referenced yahoo news in part for justification for their warrant, and explicitly excluded the fact that Steele had been in contact with Yahoo to provide his evidence to them. They claimed yahoo was proof that the steele evidence was valid by ignoring that steele provided them the info in the first place.

It's pointing out that yahoo news ISN'T a source but the FBI used it as one.


Another person who doesn't understand how FISA warrants work and the extensive length they go and the multiple references they used. If you think the court renewed the warrant based only on a few things then you're not paying attention.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:32:15 PM
#104
CEs_EFG posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Huh?

LordRazziel posted...

What?


you can tell Doom_Art didn't even read the memo and is just riding per usual

8ouuvjO


What do you think this says? You realize FISA warrants are something like 50 pages long normally and are loaded with dozens upon dozens pieces of information. Them selectively highlighting "Muh dossier and Yahoo News!" doesn't mean that's the only information used. Especially considering Page had a warrant against him since 2013 and these were requests for a renewal. The entire argument from the people against this memo has been it selectively portrays information and doesn't tell the entire story, and that's exactly what this memo shows.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:27:03 PM
#97
HypnoCoosh posted...
Just proves Trump\Russia was a witch hunt!


You literally believe Sandy Hook was a false flag. Why should we believe anything you say?
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TopicFox News, Info Wars, and Brietbart all get triggered by Law and Order SVU
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:26:18 PM
#21
zado19 posted...
TC, i have a question...... how did you find out about these?


Reddit. Well, the Fox News link anyway, and it's always safe to assume if they're outraged enough to write an article surely the other two will be as well.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:13:41 PM
#79
Oh, and for those who didn't know, Papadopoulous wasn't mentioned at all in the Steele Dossier, yet the FBI used their intel on him in Page's FISA warrant. Meaning that the dossier itself was not the sole source for the warrant on Page, and considering FISA requests are something like 50 pages long it's absurd to think the dossier is the only thing used to get the warrant.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 1:07:35 PM
#73
You know this whole thing is a dud when Trump fanboys can't even make any points other than "OMG DEMOCRATS ARE SHOOK/DONE/SCARED/OVER!"

Oh, and by the way:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/959483512624766976/photo/1

"The Page FISA application also mentions information regarding fellow Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulous but there is no evidence of of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulous. The Papadopulous information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok."
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 12:51:12 PM
#48
HypnoCoosh posted...
They new the dossier was fake and used it to get the FISA warrant?


Lmao nope, try again
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 12:50:31 PM
#46
Like, Carter Page was under investigation for years before the dossier was even a thing. And the Trump team has incessantly said he had no part of the campaign. Yet they decide that THIS is the person to burn any good will that was left between the WH and the FBI and DoJ?

Lmao
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 12:48:00 PM
#35
Bloodychess posted...
Holy shit RIP in piss Democrats


It's funny when you guys don't even bother to make points anymore because this thing is a massive dud.
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 12:43:17 PM
#24
lilORANG posted...
LOL

so it's a summary of publicly available information?


From what I gather so far it alleges:

- Steele was biased against Trump
- The dossier was used in part to reauthorize the FISA warrant on Carter Page, someone who was under investigation since 2013
- The FBI/DOJ purposely left out the origins of the Steele dossier from the FISA court and that it could have changed the courts mind, which is something the FBI denies

And that's about it...
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TopicBREAKING Trump releases FISA memo!!
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 12:33:34 PM
#15
Well this is a bit of a dud. No wonder John Kelly was downplaying this entirely.

Besides, hasn't the Trump team said for like 2 years that Carter Page was a nobody who knew nothing and had nothing to do with the campaign?
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TopicFox News, Info Wars, and Brietbart all get triggered by Law and Order SVU
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 12:31:48 PM
#12
Phantom_Nook posted...
This is so shocking. L&O has never gotten political before. Never.



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TopicFox News, Info Wars, and Brietbart all get triggered by Law and Order SVU
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 12:26:27 PM
#10
27_Sandman_40 posted...
Apparently she received death threats since the episode aired.

Anyway SVU sucks so imagine watching it and getting sensitive to the point of sending death threats


Lmao that's not what she said at all
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TopicFox News, Info Wars, and Brietbart all get triggered by Law and Order SVU
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 11:58:05 AM
#1
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/01/nbc-s-law-and-order-svu-inflames-conservatives-with-episode-featuring-right-wing-pundits-rape.html

Conservative commentator Britt McHenry, who is outspoken and blond like the fictional SVU character, called the episode disturbing and said NBC could normalize violence against pundits who share her views -- especially because police seem to be against the victim.

Ive received insults, death threats, and even my mother has been attacked online. For SVU to depict rape and violence in such a manner, the show risks normalizing it, McHenry told Fox News.

The entire episode was peppered with political talking points and observations that portrayed conservatives in a negative light and painted the right-leaning pundit as a troll -- a term invoked b y Ice-Ts character.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/02/01/law-order-svu-depicts-brutal-rape-conservative-pundit/

The case appears to be closed until alt-right leader Randy Platt, who attended the University rally, becomes a person of interest. The NBC show appears to conflate supporters of President Donald Trump with white supremacists when Platt, a Grand Wizard of the group Patriots for the American Way, says he wants to Make America Great Again.


https://www.infowars.com/shocking-law-order-episode-portrays-antifa-rape-of-infowars-reporter/

He then points out every minority juror, once again pushing the racist Trump supporter narrative.

The episode ends with Cobbs lawyer moving to dismiss the case entirely over a personal moral dilemma.

From titling the show Info Wars, to placing signs reading CNN is ISIS, (an Infowars slogan) to mimicking Infowars reporter Millie Weaver, there is little doubt that NBC is demonizing the nations leading independent media outlet.


Comment section on all of these stories are a gold mine
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TopicDid Netflix change their rating system because of Amy Schumer?
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 10:10:58 AM
#8
TopicI love that a white male is now the new hope of the democrat party
The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 10:10:25 AM
#3
TopicAnyone on this board against Black History month?
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 6:46:19 PM
#50
weapon_d00d816 posted...
KarmaMuffin posted...
MacadamianNut3 posted...
This is the same guy who flat out said himself that he "used to"* be racist

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Hopefully he'll look back on this in a couple years the way he looks back on those other comments.

Guys

When are you going to see the difference between challenging social norms that involve race and legit racism

This is a huge issue for CE. It's part of a deeper personality quirk that involves many things I've seen here, not just topics of race.


Lmao you're justifying your blatant racism? Never a good tactic to double down
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TopicAnyone on this board against Black History month?
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 6:44:58 PM
#47
Broseph_Stalin posted...
3G2YBp5


Lmao! Topic about to get good
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TopicHow were Rocky and Ivan Drago in the same weight class?
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 12:03:28 PM
#16
Russia cheats.

Some things never change
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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:49:46 AM
#83
darkjedilink posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Unfiltered testimony from a proven untruthful source is more trustworthy than actual government intelligence...


And by "actual government intelligence" you mean partisan house members who have gone out of their way to hide this and obstruct everyone from this outside of their inner circle. A memo that is crafted by a man who openly has shown his willingness to work for and defend the President at all costs.

Yes, I'd absolutely love to see the unfiltered testimony over a filtered memo of what Nunes feels is important based on said testimony. Anyone who actually gives a shit about honesty and transparency would agree

Lol.


Nice retort
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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:47:16 AM
#81
Ammonitida posted...
And I bet they'll accept the Dem memo written by the intellectually dishonest Adam Schiff as the gospel truth, the first page of which has just been leaked.


What the fuck? I already said I wanted the raw transcript that these are based on, not partisan spins from either side.
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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:45:53 AM
#79
darkjedilink posted...
Unfiltered testimony from a proven untruthful source is more trustworthy than actual government intelligence...


And by "actual government intelligence" you mean partisan house members who have gone out of their way to hide this and obstruct everyone from this outside of their inner circle. A memo that is crafted by a man who openly has shown his willingness to work for and defend the President at all costs.

Yes, I'd absolutely love to see the unfiltered testimony over a filtered memo of what Nunes feels is important based on said testimony. Anyone who actually gives a shit about honesty and transparency would agree
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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:42:59 AM
#77
Giant_Aspirin posted...
i was talking to a very far right-wing co-worker about Trump and this investigation yesterday (yeah, i shouldn't do that, i know) and he basically said

"The FBI, DoJ and anyone else who works for the government can't be trusted to investigate Trump because they're career government workers who hate Trump because he's against the government"

and my head almost exploded


It's really pathetic. Basically they've convinced themselves that everything against Trump ever is biased and against him from the start and can't be trusted, but meanwhile anything or anyone who supports him is completely right and honest. It doesn't matter who the people are, what positives they've done in the past, what political party they are from, etc. Simply for the fact that they are invesitgating Trump for the potential chance of wrong doing conducted by those around him means they are biased and corrupt.

It's more and more evident each day these people don't actually care about the rule of law, they simply want to worship their wannabe autocrat.
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TopicCNN confirmed: Coffee causes cancer
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:34:41 AM
#30
Oh well. I'll take the chance
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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:31:34 AM
#68
WSJ op-eds don't change the reality of this being a cherry picked partisan memo.
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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:25:35 AM
#62
darkjedilink posted...
bet you supported the Fusion GPS testimony being released, though...


Yes, almost as if a full testimony unfiltered is more trustworthy than a collection of things Nunes thinks is important that are shaped in a way to control the narrative.

Surely you don't think an actual testimony and partisan memo are the exact same thing, right?
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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
The Great Muta 22
02/01/18 10:20:21 AM
#60
Anyone supporting the release of a partisan memo and expecting it to be "THE COMPLETE TRUTH!" is an utter fool. Nunes has revealed himself repeatedly to be a complete partisan hack that's acting as an agent for the WH and anyone who actually cared about the truth and transparency should be pushing for the entire transcript to be dropped, not cherry picked bullet points that are specifically designed in a way to shape a narrative and message.
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TopicTrump Admin wants to test controversial reverse abortion procedure on teen
The Great Muta 22
01/31/18 8:06:20 PM
#75
This is what needs to be blasted everywhere by everyone. This shit is horrible
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TopicDNC raised 67 million in 2017. Half of what the RNC raised
The Great Muta 22
01/31/18 3:13:33 PM
#16
Maeiv posted...
Remember Jones? The DNC senator who won in Alabama? He votes 80% in line with Trumps positions in the Senate.

DNC needs to get their shit together


You do realize he's only voted all of 5 times, and two of them had to do with the shutdown. Sure his record on 538 is going to be probably close to Manchin's(though anyone who looked up his positions knows he's far more liberal), and his rhetoric may attack the Dems at times, but being that both are holding seats in two of the reddest states in the country, it's understandable.

But for the big things, much like Manchin, Jones will back the Democrats.
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TopicDNC raised 67 million in 2017. Half of what the RNC raised
The Great Muta 22
01/31/18 3:02:48 PM
#6
And yet they already have won seats all over the country in a variety of different races.

And this is why they fired their CEO and head fundraiser. Not because of some silly "MEMO CONTROVERSY!!!", but because they need to step their game up.
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TopicOwner files $75K lawsuit after being forced by cops to decapitate own dog
The Great Muta 22
01/31/18 1:31:28 PM
#46
Like, even trying to twist it in a way that "Okay, they needed to check the dog's brain for rabies", it's still utterly psychotic to make a person cut their own dogs head off at their house with their children present. This nutbag belongs behind bars
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TopicSouth Carolina Gov. wants everyone to stand for the national anthem.
The Great Muta 22
01/31/18 1:09:10 PM
#62
The Admiral posted...
What the has to do with police brutality or anything else they're crying about is exactly... nothing.


Why are you openly ignorant to statements and actions taken by other players involved in kneeling that are creating a positive impact? I've pointed these out to you before
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TopicSouth Carolina Gov. wants everyone to stand for the national anthem.
The Great Muta 22
01/31/18 12:27:04 PM
#55
You look like a crazy person if you're at a Super Bowl party and stand to or sing along with the anthem.
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