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TopicWhat would've happened if Yoda and the council said no to Obi Wan about Anakin?
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 2:03:50 AM
#14
RebelElite791 posted...
BruceWayneJr posted...
"Rando alt"? lol, wtf? Paranoid much?

And yeah, that is how it works. KotOR still exists because nothing's contradicted it. The Clone Wars still exists because nothing's contradicted. The Darth Plagueis novel still exists because nothing has been overwritten. As soon as those things are overwritten, that becomes the new canon.

I assume you're an alt as I've never seen you and you don't know who you're talking to apparently.

That is not how canon works. The only canon is The OT, the PT, TCW movie and show, Son of Dathomir, and (almost) everything from 2014 onwards. KOTOR is not canon. Plagueis novel is not canon.

As of April 25, 2014, the only previously published materials that are considered canon are the six Star Wars films, the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series and film, and the stand-alone Dark Horse Comics arc Star Wars: Darth MaulSon of Dathomir. Meanwhile, the Expanded Universe is no longer considered canon and was re-termed as the "Legends" brand. Most Star Wars material released after April 25, 2014with some exceptionsis composed in collaboration with the Lucasfilm Story Group, making it part of the "new canon."

So basically shut the fuck up.


Ha, go fuck yourself, message board celebrity. The Clone Wars builds off of stuff like the Darth Plagueis novel and fucking KotOR. You can pretend one exists independently of the other if you want to, but the elements are still there.
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TopicWhat would've happened if Yoda and the council said no to Obi Wan about Anakin?
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 2:00:50 AM
#12
Foppe posted...
Clone Wars is still canon, because of Word of God.
The Darth Plagueis novel and KoToR are not canon because of Word of God.
Could events have happened like they did in KoToR and the Plagueis novel? Yes, because nothing contradicts it yet, but that doesnt make it canon. They belong to the Extended Universe, which is not canon.


Wtf does Word of God mean? Get real. Large swaths of the original EU hasn't been touched yet by Disney. Until that happens, it's fair game. Otherwise, show me this Word of God that proves otherwise.
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TopicWhat would've happened if Yoda and the council said no to Obi Wan about Anakin?
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 1:49:49 AM
#10
RebelElite791 posted...
BruceWayneJr posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
DoctorVader posted...
How much of the Plagueis stuff is canon?

Iirc, according to that it was pretty much inevitable. Plagueis and Sidious knew even when he was on Tatooine. Sidious would have trained him eventually even if neither Qui Gon nor Obi Wan interfered.

Though I might be totally off here, so others can correct me.

Nothing other than that he was Sheev's master who he killed.


Wrong. None of it's been overwritten.

That isn't how canon works, rando alt.


"Rando alt"? lol, wtf? Paranoid much?

And yeah, that is how it works. KotOR still exists because nothing's contradicted it. The Clone Wars still exists because nothing's contradicted. The Darth Plagueis novel still exists because nothing has been overwritten. As soon as those things are overwritten, that becomes the new canon.
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Topicwho else here thinks Attack of the Clones was better than any Disney Star Wars
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 1:40:49 AM
#32
The idea that the prequels are objectively bad and everyone acknowledges it is just a waste of fucking time, but if that's the only way you can defend the Disney flicks, I understand why you have to do it.
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TopicWhat would've happened if Yoda and the council said no to Obi Wan about Anakin?
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 1:36:39 AM
#8
RebelElite791 posted...
DoctorVader posted...
How much of the Plagueis stuff is canon?

Iirc, according to that it was pretty much inevitable. Plagueis and Sidious knew even when he was on Tatooine. Sidious would have trained him eventually even if neither Qui Gon nor Obi Wan interfered.

Though I might be totally off here, so others can correct me.

Nothing other than that he was Sheev's master who he killed.


Wrong. None of it's been overwritten.
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TopicWhat would've happened if Yoda and the council said no to Obi Wan about Anakin?
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 1:36:00 AM
#7
It's nice to see how much thought you've put into it, Distant_Rainbow.

I'm a pretty big fan of the pre-Disney EU and folks tend to give it less weight than others, so you can take it or leave it, but some of it fleshes out how deep Sidious's plans are. As far as Palps and Ani goes, we're told that Sidious and Plagueis are made aware of Anakin's existence, his massive presence in the force, but Sidious doesn't encounter it until the end of TPM (Plagueis had already been murdered by that point). So I agree, Sidious would probably seek him out to capitalize on his power whether he was with the Jedi or not.

Obi-Wan pledged to Qui-Gon while he was near death that he would train Anakin. Just as well, Yoda feels an obligation to his old apprentice and that influenced his decision to let Obi-Wan go along with Qui-Gon's wishes. There's an EU comic (released by Disney) where Anakin expresses his desire to quit, and Obi-Wan tells Yoda that he would be obligated to follow Anakin and train him outside of the Jedi Order. "Extreme loyalty" is one of the themes of Star Wars and I think true blue Obi would have stuck to it no matter what.

From what we know of Darth Maul's background, he was snatched up as a child by Sidious, kept isolated and alone, and trained in the Sith ways behind the scenes while Palpatine was playing Naboo senator. I think Anakin would have suffered roughly the same fate, and his anger, alienation and lack of agency would have grown much in the same way that Maul's did. He would have become a lapdog much sooner than how he ended up in the OT and I don't think Padme would have entered into it at all. Sidious used their relationship to grow Anakin's dark side because he couldn't fully dominate the boy while he was with the Jedi. If he was training him directly, he could take a more direct approach.

Dooku was being "worked" by Palpatine before and during the events of TPM, and he already used him to murder the Jedi who commissioned the clone army and take over the project for themselves. Order 66 was in the works before Anakin entered the picture, and I think Sidious would have pulled it off later regardless of Ani's involvement. With the Jedi thrown into the middle of war and tethered to all the dicey decisions of Palpatine's republic, he could have framed them any number of ways.

You're right in the end though; without Luke and Leia, the galaxy would be totally fucked in the OT.
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TopicWhat would've happened if Yoda and the council said no to Obi Wan about Anakin?
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 12:46:02 AM
#3
I guess they would have dumped the kid off back with his mom and Sidious would eventually get a completely different apprentice. Or Sidious would scoop him up and train him in secret.
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Topicwho else here thinks Attack of the Clones was better than any Disney Star Wars
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 12:42:16 AM
#22
desuno-to posted...
TPM was memorable for me almost solely because of the duel. Not just the action, but the music.

"Duel of the Fates" was epic. Dare I say on par with the main theme.
Can you name one new song since TPM (including TLJ) that was nearly as memorable?


Well I can, because the music in all of the prequels is phenomenal.
Across the Stars, Anakin's Dark Deeds, Battle of the Heroes (always reminds me of KotOR), Birth of the Empire...

With the Disney stuff, the passion for Williams just isn't there, and the lack of planning by the producers means that he can't build on ideas towards a natural end.
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TopicHow to watch Family Guy?
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 12:20:17 AM
#5
Smashingpmkns posted...
If there's a will there's a bay


Do you know de bay?
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TopicWhat's that one game you've played through countless times
BruceWayneJr
02/12/18 12:18:00 AM
#13
MGS
Chrono Trigger
Streets of Rage 2
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TopicWhy do people defend the Last Jedi so much?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 11:24:24 PM
#19
DarkBuster22904 posted...
I mean, come on guys... Attack of the Clones was SCIENTIFICALLY shit, right? There's basically no metric you can use to say TLJ is worse than episode 2.


No. Your hyperbole doesn't override the hyperbole that you don't agree with.
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TopicWhy do people defend the Last Jedi so much?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 11:13:15 PM
#5
Spiritlittle posted...
Because, as a film, the movie is brilliantly made. No one can deny that.


lol
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TopicAnakin Skywalker: "I'm gonna become a Jedi and free all the slaves."
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 11:05:37 PM
#9
He was born a slave and he became a slave again to Palpatine.

Star Wars is littered with irony.
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TopicWhy is talking about Hillary Clinton off limits?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 10:50:38 PM
#8
Who told you it was off limits? No one.

But if someone asks you why you do it often, you think it's an attack on your free speech.

Binary motherfuckers.
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TopicWhen you think of Russia, what comes to mind first?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 10:05:44 PM
#34
The_Juice_ posted...
Goldeneye


You'll never know how I watched you
from the shadows as a child
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TopicWhy are Trumpers so obsessed with Hillary Clinton?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 9:21:48 PM
#51
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
BruceWayneJr posted...
If Clinton doesn't trigger you, then you must love her.


Most times when people get defensive over a public figure, it's because they like that public figure.


Who's getting defensive? You can wonder why right wingers are obsessed with her without liking the woman.
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TopicWhen you think of Russia, what comes to mind first?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 9:17:14 PM
#21
byrone posted...
Donald Trump

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TopicWhy are Trumpers so obsessed with Hillary Clinton?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 9:14:37 PM
#46
These morons only think in binary. If Clinton doesn't trigger you, then you must love her.
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TopicWhat's WORSE: Trump's presidency or Obama's TAN SUIT?!
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 9:06:14 PM
#12
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
r4X0r posted...
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Calling for stronger gun control is not the same thing as taking muh guns!! r4x0r. This isnt a very difficult concept, so Im not sure why youre struggling to understand it.

Gun control is restricting people's access to guns. That's... exactly what "taking muh guns" is.

You cant seriously believe this. Adding some minor restrictions to buying guns is not even close to taking them away. You tinfoil hat types act as if thats somehow equivalent to the government kicking your door in and taking your guns by force.


And they push that dumb shit because they know it will distract from real solutions. They don't want ANY new legislation, so they pretend that the extremes are the only options.
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TopicWhy are Trumpers so obsessed with Hillary Clinton?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 8:39:48 PM
#11
I'm waiting for Spirit Cooking to come back. That was a good one.
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TopicWhat's WORSE: Trump's presidency or Obama's TAN SUIT?!
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 8:37:59 PM
#7
Guess what: Most of the country supports more gun control, especially now that we get a new mass shooting every two weeks. That's practical of course, but right wing nut jobs yell and scream about some extreme conspiratorial nonsense and that diverts the conversation away from anything that could possibly be practical. So yeah, Obama wanted to tighten up on gun laws and had the majority of Americans behind him, but instead of doing ANYTHING, we have to play around with the bleating garbage coming from the right.
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TopicWhat's WORSE: Trump's presidency or Obama's TAN SUIT?!
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 8:29:30 PM
#4
r4X0r posted...
BruceWayneJr posted...
But Obama's gonna take my guns tho


No denying he wanted to, he just didn't have public opinion on his side.


lmao

I guess that's why he didn't enact Sharia Law and throw us all in FEMA death camps too.
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TopicWhat's WORSE: Trump's presidency or Obama's TAN SUIT?!
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 8:26:56 PM
#2
But Obama's gonna take my guns tho
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TopicHillary still coughing. Coughed up a storm during "Makers" conference.
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 8:25:38 PM
#12
TheVipaGTS posted...
metralo posted...
Doom_Art posted...
See when people say Trumpers are weirdly obsessed, this is what they mean

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TopicLet's settle this: which of these shows is the best sitcom of all time?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 8:23:09 PM
#15
Who the fuck voted for Young Sheldon?
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TopicAre fictional racial slurs as offensive as real racial slurs?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 7:23:56 PM
#17
AlisLandale posted...
Sandpeople would probably be construed as offensive in an IRL context if you said it to a person.

But I can't think of a sane human taking offense to an in-movie term for an alien race, in context.

Besides, those sand people are animals. and I slaughtered them, like ANIMALS


Remember what you told me about your mother..... and the sand people?
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TopicImagine bailing out the people who crash your economy lol
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 6:51:06 PM
#7
Imagine filling your cabinet with the people who crash your economy lol
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TopicIs "sand people" a racial slur? Or is that what they call themselves?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 4:40:50 PM
#17
They've allowed humans to join them but they aren't human themselves.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tusken_Raider/Legends
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TopicDemocrat bill: Federal charges for anyone who attacks a reporter
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 4:17:44 PM
#17
Ammonitida posted...
BruceWayneJr posted...
Well we don't want a bunch of Greg Gianfortes running around getting away with assault, do we?

Or maybe you do.


Except that didn't happen.

misdemeanor assault, sentenced to 40 hours of community service, 20 hours of anger management, 180-day deferred sentence, and a $300 fine along with an $85 court fee.


Oh, is that all?
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TopicDemocrat bill: Federal charges for anyone who attacks a reporter
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 4:14:17 PM
#10
Well we don't want a bunch of Greg Gianfortes running around getting away with assault, do we?

Or maybe you do.
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TopicThis site thinks it's cool to make fun of or bully someone who is mentally
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 3:54:14 PM
#4
Now I see why people keep telling you to shut the fuck up.
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Topicwho else here thinks Attack of the Clones was better than any Disney Star Wars
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 3:36:56 PM
#3
All six Lucas films are better.
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TopicLol @ Trump's official poll
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 3:13:49 PM
#16
Make sure you give them your phone number to learn about great deals on Maga hats and mugs, Bigly Boxes and Trumpy Bears!
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TopicPresident Trump: the media's approval ratings are at the lowest level in history
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 2:04:25 PM
#24
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Doesnt he have the lowest approval ratings in history or something to that effect?


Yep, and he's less trusted than the media. Congratulations to the so-called president for winning the race to the bottom!
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TopicMGS HD collection is coming to PS4 apparently
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 12:39:44 PM
#26
I'll buy it again only if it has more MGS games than the last HD collection.

That link about PSVita doesn't confirm anything about PS4.
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TopicStudy indicates that Trump supporters are now unreachable
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 11:59:19 AM
#26
DarkProto05 posted...
Only now unreachable? LMAO
Been that way for a while.


This. If they were able to be reached by facts, sanity, and basic human dignity, they never would have voted for the lying sack of shit in the first place.
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TopicDo the two Sonic guys in the commercials think "this is funny?"
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 11:21:08 AM
#9
You're not their target market. Just think of all the shitty tv shows that have massive ratings.
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Topicanyone that tells me shut up again is getting blocked.
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 11:19:27 AM
#34
anth0ny posted...

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TopicRepublicans are blaming Obama for the Rob Porter
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 10:53:23 AM
#3
You don't expect the Party of Personal Responsibility to actually take responsibility, do you?
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TopicWhat is your boss's first name?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 1:59:56 AM
#6
Voyevoda
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TopicWhy did you think the last movie you watched was terrible?
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 1:42:36 AM
#6
I just saw a couple decent movies. The last terrible one was Quantum of Solace. It was mostly all bad but the camera work fucking pissed me off.
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Topicanyone that tells me shut up again is getting blocked.
BruceWayneJr
02/11/18 1:36:32 AM
#20

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TopicWhat was the WORST SEQUEL you've ever seen?
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 11:33:11 PM
#33
Bagamak posted...
As a kid I was pretty angry at TMNT secret of the ooze. I hated that they teased us about Bebop and Rocksteady and have us those lame standins instead


Yeah, but Super Shredder.
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TopicChrono Cross was a scam
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 11:00:41 PM
#41
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
CC relates well to a particular outcome of CT, since they had time travel.


Yep, and I like how Cross deals with alternate realities while Trigger deals with time. The evolution of the reptites and their war in the future is totally underappreciated.
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TopicSeason 1 of True Detective is the best season of any television show ever
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 8:12:31 PM
#2
No.
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TopicThe Force is Female
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 6:10:18 PM
#7
I don't care about the sentiment one way or the other, but they could have cranked out better shirts than that.
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TopicRemember when people's gimmicks on CE were actually original?
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 2:43:22 PM
#24
DocileOrangeCup posted...
I am a cup


I am a rock. I am an island.
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TopicHoly shit at this Bond villain death (Live and Let Live spoilers)
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 1:42:13 PM
#30


License to Kill is brutal.
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TopicHoly shit at this Bond villain death (Live and Let Live spoilers)
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 11:12:41 AM
#16
Skye Reynolds posted...
BruceWayneJr posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
> fight takes place in a shark tank
> villain's death has nothing to do with the shark


The compressed air capsule was introduced and displayed earlier, then used in the final fight. Chekov's Gun.


The same applies to Chekov's shark.

<_<


-_-
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TopicIf there's one thing Trump is consistent about, it's supporting abusers
BruceWayneJr
02/10/18 11:05:24 AM
#7
He's absolute garbage and his supporters can't claim ignorance anymore. They would have to be garbage as well to condone this crap.
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