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Topic | Anyone want to talk about the broader strokes of Identity Politics? |
Glass_Phantom 01/10/18 12:22:09 PM #1 | It's something I've been thinking about a lot lately... Consider religion. Religion can be sweet and ennobling when it's about being in awe of God. But way too often, it's about being in awe of one's identity, and one's tribe, one's ego. If religion is making you more hateful, then you're not really worshiping God; you're worshiping yourself. IMO, this is something atheists misunderstand about religion... Around here, it's considered sport to attack religions like Christianity and Islam by cherry-picking verses or backwards traditions (circumcision, head scarves, etc...) But the truth is, those verses, those traditions, aren't what turn religious people into bloodthirsty zealots. Religion can be about theology, spirituality, morality, culture, social institutions, and also, identity... It's identity that's the most dangerous of the lot. That's the one that really drives people to oppress; to kill. Example: Why did so many young Muslims leave middle class homes in the West and travel to Syria to fight for ISIS? They didn't do it in search of theology, spirituality, morality, but in search of identity... They felt alienated, cut-off from their identity, and in many cases emasculated. So they went to Syria for a chance to play at being holy warriors and forge a new identity for themselves. It wasn't religion that called them... It was identity. What propped up ISIS was basically a juiced-up form of identity politics. The religious posturing of extremists, be they Islamists or Evangelicals or Hindutva, is more about identity than religious sincerity. It's the same thing with our politics... The issues themselves, things like abortion, healthcare, taxes, are not even responsible for half the divisions in our country. What divides us more is that politics has become a form of identity politics: individuals are now incorporating associations like "I'm a Democrat" or "I'm a Republican" into their core identity. It's not about enacting policies that are best for the country; it's about scoring a "win" for your team. Then you have posters like Proudclad, who's basically 70% of the way to becoming a political liberal, so much that he's twisted his conservative ideal to include socialist concepts like universal basic income. But will he give up the ghost? No... And why? Because he's decorated his self-identity with ornaments like "Republican," "pro-corporate," "pro-free market," "anti-regulation," "anti-big government." What is it that drives atheists to attack religion (and religious people) whole cloth? In many cases, they have valid criticisms of religion and its place in our society. But just as frequently, it's because they've expanded their identity to include being anti-Christianity, anti-Islam, or anti-religion in general. In a lot of cases, they've experienced religious persecution... And persecution on the basis of identity further strengthens that identity. Just some thoughts that have been bouncing around my head lately... G.P. |
Topic | Top DNC official endorses pro-Antifa book |
Glass_Phantom 01/06/18 7:31:47 PM #92 | Mal_Fet posted... The book is pro-Antifa. This is indisputable. So? |
Topic | Roy Moore accuser's home destroyed in arson fire. |
Glass_Phantom 01/06/18 9:58:11 AM #4 | Awful. |
Topic | Job market is very hot right now thanks to capitalism |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 8:19:16 PM #26 | voldothegr8 posted... Still prosperous as fuck though so no, it's not a moot point. We didn't know about greenhouse gasses and shit when the industrial revolution started, but people thrived. And now people are still thriving as we move to the green revolution. You're missing the point. |
Topic | Job market is very hot right now thanks to capitalism |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 5:34:26 PM #21 | FLUFFYGERM posted... lmao if it puts an end to your awful trolling then sign me up You're better than this. |
Topic | Job market is very hot right now thanks to capitalism |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 3:51:21 PM #14 | FLUFFYGERM posted... Glass_Phantom posted...Global warming is ravaging our collective future right now because of capitalism. You only responded to the first thing I mentioned. Even so, it's moot, because crushing damage has already been dealt to the ecosystem on account of capitalism, which the further development of green tech will not be able to remedy. |
Topic | Virgin trains offend femminists with sexist tweet. |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:51:15 PM #55 | EverDownward posted... After seeing more of what she said, I can understand why she was upset. But I wouldn't have gone on a campaign to complain about it. I would have called the guy a dick under my breath and forgotten about it as I went on my day. That sounds like a good way to ensure bad behaviors like demeaning women become institutionalized. |
Topic | Virgin trains offend femminists with sexist tweet. |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:44:05 PM #51 | TheVipaGTS posted... why do people suddenly forget that context exists in situations like this? It's the Internet, and the forum is populated by 20-year-old men who need to earn macho points by proving how much they don't care about women. |
Topic | The Democrats are in shambles after last year's election lost. |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:42:11 PM #10 | Bullet_Wing posted... MangaFan462 posted...They think they're gonna regain lost ground this year... LOL This. When Republicans are barely scraping by in R+30 districts (and losing in others, like AL-Senate and VA-Governor), the GOP is in for a world of hurt. Democrats are up by 15 on the generic ballot, which portends a bloodbath this November. |
Topic | Virgin trains offend femminists with sexist tweet. |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:39:57 PM #40 | Fair. Don't patronize female customers by taking a derisive tone and calling them honey. |
Topic | Do you think it was popular for people to be anti-Nazi in Nazi Germany? |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:28:49 PM #7 | I think the op's point is that it becomes easy to rationalize evil behavior (and easy to mock or deride criticism) when there are enough people advocating for said evil. |
Topic | Job market is very hot right now thanks to capitalism |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:25:46 PM #9 | Global warming is ravaging our collective future right now because of capitalism. Nations are prioritizing mercantile gain over human rights right now because of capitalism. The balance of our democracy is tipping away from The People in favor of mega-corporations because of capitalism. |
Topic | Trump takes credit for the lack of Airline related deaths in 2017.. |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:10:13 PM #3 | There weren't any velociraptor deaths in 2017 either. Thank you President Trump. =D |
Topic | Iran shutting down internet in multiple cities as mass protests continue |
Glass_Phantom 01/02/18 2:08:18 PM #17 | r4X0r posted... This is a recurring quality of liberalism and it's hilarious to intelligent people. Take something that's bad, oppressive government in Iran, take a group of people you don't like, conservatives, combine them and BOOM! In his own mind, he's got a rock solid point. Iranian tyranny is bad, he doesn't like conservatives, so they MUST be pretty much the same thing. k |
Topic | Iran shutting down internet in multiple cities as mass protests continue |
Glass_Phantom 01/01/18 7:06:42 PM #14 | FLUFFYGERM posted... Glass_Phantom with his anti-west pro-Islam shilling yet again. @FLUFFYGERM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1j4WbMPdw8&feature=youtu.be&t=5 =) |
Topic | #FreeIran |
Glass_Phantom 01/01/18 10:01:20 AM #1 | What's holding the Middle East back is not Islam, but dictatorship... The region's worst problems emanate from Riyadh and Tehran, not the Qur'an. Democracy and freedom are withheld from the people, and religious fundamentalism substituted to be wielded as a dictators' cudgel to keep the masses in line. The demonstrations in Iran are evidence that dictatorship in the Middle East is unsustainable and unstable. The present system won't last; the way to the past is impossible; the road to the future is blocked. Something has to give. Unfortunately, America has no shortage of imperialists who believe dictatorship is fine if it means catering to "American interests," and even more disciples of the alt-right who think Islam is incongruous with democracy, and what Muslims need is an overlord to crack the whip. The reality is, in nations where dictators have accommodated demonstrations like this, we've seen a flourishing of democracy (Tunisia); only in countries where dictators reacted violently have we seen terrorism, civil war, and destruction (Libya, Syria). Peace won't come to the Middle East until the dictators who rule give the people the freedom and human rights they deserve. |
Topic | Disney. First thing that came to mind? |
Glass_Phantom 12/31/17 7:39:27 PM #19 | Bambi... |
Topic | GTA San Andreas and GTA 4 are so goddamn underrated in terms of storyline. |
Glass_Phantom 12/31/17 7:34:40 PM #24 | San Andreas had a lot going on with its storyline. There was a well-crafted parallel between Mike Toreno (government agent operating in a morally-gray area, "trying to set bad people on other bad people," committing heinous acts in the name of the self-perceived greater good -- namely the maintenance of the American socioeconomic system and the survival of the free world) and Officer Tenpenny (corrupt police officer setting gangs on other gangs, "doing what needs to be done to keep the hood under control, even if it means getting his hands dirty" and skimming off the top.) The game was as much a critique of American imperialism as it was a critique of law enforcement and street gangs in America circa the early 1990s... one served as a foil for the other. The message of the game is unabashedly anti-drug. Nothing wrong with that... Grove Street cared about their neighborhood. That's not a plot hole, that's just how they ran their territory. Swagnificent119 posted... -Why was the government directly helping Smoke and why were they so cool with CJ fucking up their plans? The government wasn't directly helping smoke, iirc... Tenpenny was the one helping Smoke. Mike Toreno was only associated with Smoke's outfit vis-a-vis his agency's efforts to smuggle drugs into the United States, which is an allusion to how the CIA facilitated the import of crack cocaine into the United States in the 1980s as part of America's support for the Contras in Nicaragua. |
Topic | So what's going on in Iran |
Glass_Phantom 12/31/17 10:09:49 AM #9 | Caution999 posted... More real than your fake news like CNN. He who would leverage the struggle of foreign heroes for the cause of freedom, to be used as a cudgel against domestic adversaries, is a friend to neither. |
Topic | Iran shutting down internet in multiple cities as mass protests continue |
Glass_Phantom 12/31/17 10:07:04 AM #8 | Caution999 posted... @Antifar What does that poster have to do with anything...? We can only hope that the situation resolves itself amicably, without bloodshed, and that the people of Iran enjoy a rebirth of freedom... That the shackles are finally lifted from them, and their government implements democratic reforms. The people there yearn for freedom. The true Western enemies of what's happening in Iran right now are those on the right, especially the alt-right, who believe that Middle Eastern race/culture/religion are incompatible with democracy, and therefore they need a dictator to "keep their passions in check..." I think Democrats and neoconservatives are mostly in agreement that that's a disgusting line of thinking, and we're pretty much all on the side of the protestors. |
Topic | Please stop being conservative |
Glass_Phantom 12/31/17 8:51:12 AM #49 | Questionmarktarius posted... Glass_Phantom posted...As Christians, the Bible calls on all of us to show kindness, humbleness, and generosity unto others... The world will only become a better place when we stop caring about ourselves most of all and start caring about each other, and act for the good of society rather than our own self-interest. |
Topic | Lol @ the Buzzfeed guys teststerone levels |
Glass_Phantom 12/30/17 9:35:03 AM #8 | It's strange to me this weird fascination some posters have with manliness and virility. o_O Why bully strangers on the Internet over something like this? |
Topic | Please stop being conservative |
Glass_Phantom 12/30/17 9:17:52 AM #43 | Questionmarktarius posted... Darklit_Minuet posted...Conservatives are bad people though Are you Christian? As Christians, the Bible calls on all of us to show kindness, humbleness, and generosity unto others... "For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me." I don't retreat from those requirements, which God has put upon us... I think self-interest, and tribalism are bugs in human nature, evolutionary essential a million years ago or even a hundred years ago, but ultimately now demons that we need to overcome as our species knits closer together and tries to solve our remaining problems. We are all our brother's keeper. I don't mind giving some of what's mine to help my fellow man, and I don't think the mogul who has a lot to give should either. |
Topic | Mainstream media coverage of Trump 3x more negative than Obama; just 5% positive |
Glass_Phantom 12/28/17 6:48:39 PM #151 | Perhaps because Donald Trump is a 3x worse president than Obama... |
Topic | Watch this and tell me there isn't a problem with police violence in America. |
Glass_Phantom 12/08/17 9:23:53 PM #1 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62Va6Ft2cw&feature=youtu.be The man in the video is drunk, sobbing, begging for his life, clearly confused... The officer is hostile, aggressive, condescending. He orders him to "crawl forward with his hands in the air," which would probably baffle more than a few sober people, since we learn from the time we're infants that crawling = hands on the ground... Additionally, since he's drunk, he's more prone to lose his balance and make wild movements, which is exactly what happens. There wasn't even anything to stop the officers from handcuffing him when he was on the floor... The jury voted last night not to convict. |
Topic | NiceHash hacked. $60 million in Bitcoin stolen. |
Glass_Phantom 12/06/17 5:46:49 PM #1 | |
Topic | Do we have any Republicans on this board who arent Trump supporters/apologists |
Glass_Phantom 12/04/17 6:39:02 PM #24 | From what I've seen, about half of the Trump supporters on this board are troll accounts. |
Topic | Disgraced FBI agent led Clinton probe, changed 'grossly negligent' to 'careless |
Glass_Phantom 12/04/17 6:32:28 PM #5 | Isn't gross negligence the same thing as extreme carelessness...? |
Topic | Innocent woman out walking her dog, shot and killed by a hunter. |
Glass_Phantom 11/25/17 9:04:20 AM #38 | Funbazooka posted... Patchwork posted...Malcolm_McGuffi posted...Hunter "mistook her for a deer." Shot her with a pistol from afar. It was dusk, low light conditions, when shooting deer is supposed to be prohibited... for this exact reason... Apparently the dog she was walking wouldn't leave her body, just laid down by her side and refused to leave her, had to be forcibly contained by police. I won't bring a gun into my home for that very reason... Too high a chance of a tragedy. I don't need one of my kids getting their hands on it and doing something stupid. |
Topic | Innocent woman out walking her dog, shot and killed by a hunter. |
Glass_Phantom 11/24/17 10:44:41 PM #23 | Not sure it's been mentioned, but the article says he isn't being prosecuted either. |
Topic | *Actual* Transgender Day of Remembrance topic |
Glass_Phantom 11/20/17 7:28:45 PM #1 | I don't care for the other thread, so I thought I would make one of my own... Honoring the transgender individuals who were killed in the United States of America this year on account of their sexuality and gender identification. There are many, many more victims all around the world... The "full" list can be found at https://tdor.info/ , but even it doesn't come close to honoring every person who's been killed over the past year for the crime of being different. In Memoriam India Monroe Mesha Caldwell Jamie Lee Wounded Arrow Jojo Striker Jaquarrius Holland Tiara Richmond Chyna Gibson Ciara McElveen Alphonza Watson Kenne McFadden Chay Reed Mx. Bostick Sherrell Faulkner Kendra Adams Ebony Morgan Gwynevere River Song Anthony Bubbles Torres Derricka Banner Ally Lee Steinfeld Stephanie Montez Candace Towns Not to belabor the point too much, but transphobia is not a solved problem in our country, nor in any country... Several of these people died in gruesome way.. Ally Lee Steinfeld was a Missouri teenager who was attacked by her girlfriend and two men, stabbed dozens of times in the genitals, had her eyes gouged out, was dismembered, burned, and her bones were dumped in a garbage bin beside the chicken coop. Sherell Faulkner died of trauma from injuries she received last November in North Carolina, a state which doesn't have protections for LGBTQ in their hate crime laws... Kenne McFadden's head was held underwater until she drowned, and her assailants just dumped her body in the river. Too many people dying senselessly, for no reason at all... The world needs more love and tolerance in it and a lot less hate. Rest in peace... |
Topic | Corruption exposed at Trump's FCC |
Glass_Phantom 11/20/17 6:12:39 PM #15 | Antifar posted... This doesn't suggest corruption, just a general disposition towards benefiting the already rich and powerful It indicates the administration is cutting favors for corps that are supporters of the administration. In that sense, it's corruption. |
Topic | Who's a worse president? George W Bush? |
Glass_Phantom 11/17/17 7:16:41 AM #2 | W Bush so far. |
Topic | 16+ women have accused Donald Trump of sexual assault, including a teenage girl. |
Glass_Phantom 11/17/17 7:15:59 AM #1 | Just a reminder. |
Topic | CE is a perfect reflection of US society |
Glass_Phantom 11/16/17 6:07:40 PM #9 | AlternativeFAQS posted... most vocal people are decent and mostly ok. but there are a lot of problems below the surface. irrational anger, sexism and racism that goes unchecked lead to systemic problems. Agreed on all counts... |
Topic | Trump judicial nominee praised the KKK and its founder in a message board post |
Glass_Phantom 11/16/17 6:07:05 PM #18 | Bump. |
Topic | Trump judicial nominee praised the KKK and its founder in a message board post |
Glass_Phantom 11/16/17 7:44:39 AM #7 | pinky0926 posted... The standards have been set so irredeemably low now that stories like this are just worthy of a half sigh rather than outrage. Another word for that is moving the Overton window... and yeah, it has been moved. |
Topic | Trump judicial nominee praised the KKK and its founder in a message board post |
Glass_Phantom 11/16/17 7:42:14 AM #5 | yusiko posted... does this surprise anyone? No... The type of argument he employed, citing the importance of "facts" over "righteous indignation" (feelings), has often been used as a flimsy buttress for arguments that dehumanize other groups of people, and as a smokescreen for racism. At least in my experience. =/ |
Topic | Trump judicial nominee praised the KKK and its founder in a message board post |
Glass_Phantom 11/16/17 7:37:49 AM #1 | A search of TideFans.com reveals that BamainBoston often opined on controversial issues, including race, abortion, perceived federal overreach, and Southern heritage. In one post from February 2011, he defended the honor of the early Ku Klux Klan. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/11/15/trump_nominee_brett_talley_appears_to_have_defended_the_first_kkk.html |
Topic | YOUR Tax dollars to be used to pay for a transgender soldiers surgery |
Glass_Phantom 11/15/17 8:00:20 PM #106 | So what? |
Topic | 'Gender Pay Gap is getting worse, not better.' Claims femminists. |
Glass_Phantom 11/12/17 6:44:34 AM #38 | _Goggalor_ posted... Feminism is cancer. No, it isn't. Please turn away from the alt-right's rhetoric. |
Topic | Alabama GOP might postpone election |
Glass_Phantom 11/11/17 10:17:58 AM #8 | ollie89 posted... 'Mary Was a Teenager.' Alabama Republican Uses Jesus to Defend Roy Moore Between this and Trump running interference for Putin today over Russian hacking, I'd say the corruption of the conservative movement is complete. I cannot understand why GOP voters continue to stand by this. |
Topic | Alabama GOP might postpone election |
Glass_Phantom 11/11/17 10:14:02 AM #5 | He won the primary. He is the GOP's chosen candidate. In the absence of a disqualifying conviction, there is no grounds to subvert the will of the people by removing him, much less delaying the election. |
Topic | GOP tax plan would hike taxes on 31% of middle class americans |
Glass_Phantom 11/10/17 11:58:53 AM #77 | darkjedilink posted... 1 percent of the population pays 40 percent of the taxes. Because their tax rate should be 70%, not 40%. |
Topic | Chilling video of black on black gang violence. Where's BLM? |
Glass_Phantom 11/10/17 11:31:35 AM #2 | =^D |
Topic | Will conservatives vote for a Republican pedophile over a Democrat? |
Glass_Phantom 11/10/17 11:03:46 AM #15 | The GOP went for Donald Trump knowing full well he sexually assaulted women. |
Topic | GOP tax plan would hike taxes on 31% of middle class americans |
Glass_Phantom 11/10/17 10:59:40 AM #63 | Anteaterking posted... Darkman124 posted...I don't mind paying more, but not so that large corporations can pay less. Here here! |
Topic | GOP tax plan would hike taxes on 31% of middle class americans |
Glass_Phantom 11/10/17 10:41:58 AM #52 | Questionmarktarius posted...
In what way? |
Topic | GOP tax plan would hike taxes on 31% of middle class americans |
Glass_Phantom 11/10/17 10:41:16 AM #50 | Questionmarktarius posted... Social Engineering is why you're paying taxes to subsidize someone way wealthier than you buying an electric car you can't afford. Considering how much the world will suffer in the next century due to global warming, I'm happier if fewer people drive polluting cars. |
Topic | GOP tax plan would hike taxes on 31% of middle class americans |
Glass_Phantom 11/10/17 10:39:08 AM #48 | Questionmarktarius posted... It acts as social engineering What's wrong with social engineering? |
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