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Unless they are Riza vacations.
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Although if yall are gonna be so gosh darned supportive and bump this anyway, I might as well resume this earlier than planned. There is good sense in keeping it all in one topic if possible.
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Yeah...stuff happened. Didnt have internet for a day and had some other issues pop up. Frankly, I'm tempted to just scrap the topic for now and pick it back up with a fresh start on the new year.
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crusher will hypospray your headache away.
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Argh, too many puns. But that's fair, you all have been more than reasonable putting up with my absence. I can't get at this today, but unless something crazy happens, tomorrow should be good.
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Bump. This is going slower than I would prefer, but if I get my act together, I think I can knock this out before the end of the year.
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The cracked glass was an unknown to me too...but the second Miles mentions thermal fracturing, the gas burner evidence comes to mind. Still leaves the big question of 'why' remaining.

Pretty much everyone confused the room for another. Who made up these rooms anyway, was it you Katy? Don't think I've forgotten about the tea set symbol at the chocolate ship that the game curiously let slip by an unaware player. Would be easy to set up too. "Hey Delicia, I need some special "those things" killer and I also want to paint a room red, tee hee hee". Only one way to find out how it went down....

Naturally, she is made a suspect, but in a twist, has paperwork that suggests she might be on the level. My gut is saying she is innocent, if accidentally involved. Katy, however, is looking 10 kinds of shady right now, and the game isn't even focusing on her at all yet, other than to occasionally give people tea.

As expected of Miles, he's already on the same page as me, suspecting her for reasons I've already stated.
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Maggey was alright, if only because she was a cute glasses girl. Larry, in contrast, has no redeeming traits.

Anyway, the 10 minute recess is over.

Dalicia looks...exactly the same as she did 18 years ago.

Quite a bit of reminiscing going on. Pastry boy is famous, Delicious can make any drug, Miles is Gregory's son.

But eventually it is time for business. Delicia knows about Megatoxin X and how it is used to kill "those things".

One brief chemistry lesson later, and we gotta answer a pop quiz to be permitted the use of Little Thief to somehow do something for us that we could not already do ourselves. The question asked was pretty simple, asking who caused the gas to happen. Which, there was only one person in the room, so we know it was the victim. Most likely accidentally done, but who knows what larger plot will unfold.
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at being the worst character, perhaps.
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If you see pink, it means that red and white were mixed and the result is a dangerous compound. Larry is wearing a pink shirt. Just sayin'!

Alas, he is to be a free man since doors can be locked. Justine lets this line of accusation fall in favor of a backup victim, Delicia Scones. Who, if nothing else, has the right job labels to be reasonably suspected.

The session ends with Miles wondering what Courtney's game is this time. To be continued!

Ever so slowly, things are starting to heat up.
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Debeste wants to lock up Larry because Larry has red paint. You know, law of averages suggests that maybe after so many wins, it is finally our turn to be defeated. We tried real hard to defend you Larry, but you were just caught red handed with red paint. Can't fight that. Weird way to end things, but maybe case 4 will be epic enough to...

...alright, alright, we know he's gonna be damnably innocent, because Larry is simultaneously the luckiest and unluckiest person to ever exist. Beating up Debeste will make a reasonable alternative.

Yup. The one singular flaw with Larry causing the gas was that it happened inside the case. Not that Larry was unaffected or him needing the other component to begin with or him just simply being Larry.

It is enough to pursue the notion of how the substances mixed, to which the unreasonably high quality sketch is sufficient evidence for. I just don't think the game understands who this person is and why this is outside the realm of reason even in a universe where parrots have given testimony.

I am going to put on my Larry hat and draw what this sketch should have looked like.

http://imgur.com/a/GOILS
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The statue 'transformed' before Larry's eyes, releasing the strawberry jam or whatever the red stuff inside it was. It was also secretly Pisces. Probably. I look forward to the bit where we turn the sketch upside down and it was actually Leo. Maybe the ice is actually holograms and Little Thief will get confused enough to explode.Maybe Larry is a hologram and will get confused enough to explode.

Everyone piles into the Winter/Autumn room after Gumshoe confirms the gas is no longer an issue. A gas burner is found that is still warm. I wonder what it could have possibly heated up....

Some very targeted alterations are being made to these zodiac signs to make them vaguely resemble other signs. I get a sneaking suspicion that this was the determining factor in how they were placed rather than that of any actual astrological ties to the seasons.

...and then just when things are starting to look interesting, the prosecutor version of Larry shows up. At least Courtney is along for the ride too. Although using her right after case 2 might be a bit much. She's still spouting the same sort of lines...

Normallium and Fatallium....argh. There was probably a clever japanese pun in the original names of these so I'll try not to be too upset about how laughably absurd these names are. The former is used in normal, everyday stuff, while the latter is used in a super poison. Thankfully, the game boils down this chemistry lesson with some color coding. If we see something odd and white, it will probably be the poison. If we see something red, perhaps something in a sherbet sculpture, it will be the pleb juice.
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And by today, I mean the today that exists a day after the previous today...sorry bout that, had some impromptu gaming with my brother in the time I had reserved for this.

Ain't got nothing going on now, so I shall press on and dream of a day that Larry eats the entire chocolate ship and explodes.

We gotta play logic chess with Larry in order to extract the steaming pile of truth buried deep inside Butz.

The game insists that Miles is wrong to suggest that Larry does not belong here.

A number of tactical dots later, and we learn that Larry just wanted to paint a gemini statue for his girlfriend. On any other character, this might be endearing.

Then the flipside of the previous logic...100% questions, filling in a very small piece of the puzzle with Larry being able to sneak in while Katy was dealing with sprinklers. These were the two pawns, leaving only the queen remaining.

It almost looks like it could be a tough battle...but we just go literally top to bottom through the simple maze, and before you can say "Larry is a horrible character and should never be seen in another Ace Attorney game ever again", victory is ours! Seems Larry saw something scary at the crime scene.

....and now we go from the sophisticated camera technology of the previous case to "I drew a thing" Larry.

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I do not believe for a second that Larry actually drew that.
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Larry happened (or. to put it more accurately, I had some minor life stuff thrown at me). I fully intend to continue today.
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On a slightly more pleasant note, time has done nice things for Kate. Still has that fancy tea set too.

On a slightly less pleasant note, they let Delicia treat the poison. Who here did not immediately suspect her at first? Really, it is quiiite the coincidence that so many from that event are making appearances on this opening day.

Oh man, Gumshoe bursts on the scene, and it turns out that the Autumn room is Winter room 2.0! I swear, eventually stuff will start making sense.

And in order to make sense, they are going to have to talk to Larry.

I'm going to bed. I can only handle so much misery.
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I mean, ok, I think he was in the last one too wasn't he. But this was supposed to be the good one. Argh. If only it were Larry that huffed the poison gas. Who am I kidding, Larry breathes out poison gas. It was him, he is the murderer, lock him up boys!

Trying to recover from the Larry Effect, we tune back into the plot...seems the victim was the pastry chef dude. I am sorry Dane, that you had to be exposed to such toxicity...and also the poison gas.

I would call Edgeworth out on him asking what Larry, a self-professed artist, could be doing at an art museum, but in Miles' defense it really is proper procedure to ask why Larry does anything even if it might accidentally look logical. Truly, the real fault here is in expecting Larry to be able to adequately explain why.

Larry and Ray quickly bond. Miles thinks he is getting a headache. I think this is going to be a loooooooong case.
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Mask*DemMasque is here...cameos are quite the recurring theme, apparently. The kid seems familiar too, but any name escapes me.

Bunch of ice, a locked temperature control, and a salt lamp. Seems pretty normal to me!

.......

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo

;_;

This game has Larry in it. It is officially worst game. Everything was going so well, but now this doofus is gonna be tangled up in Edgeworth plot.
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Alright, back in the saddle.

When we last left our heroes....we were leaving our heroes. Hi Miles! Long time no see!

Ray sure can talk a lot, but through the magic of video games we clearly see that there was so much more than in the official report. Miles has the official report in his organizer, so we can see that his observation is indeed accurate. Poor Master is in jail for the crime of using too much salt.

Speaking of crimes, who the hell divided these zodiac signs up in the pamphlet? I'm not an astrologer, but quite a few of these seem off. You better believe I noticed that each of these seasonal rooms is at a different temperature (although why a pamphlet would make special mention of the exact temperature a room is at is anyone's guess...game mechanics!).

Lulz...the trial floundered about for a year because back in those days they didn't have any fancy hilariously short time limits.

Ray goes to the wrong room, which if I remember right, was actually the right room, but it isn't here in the present, which raises quite the mystery. Was the original sherbet ice transported to a different room, and if so, for what purpose?

We're technically not in an investigation phase atm, but are given free reign to move about.
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Bumpity. Havent forgotten about this, just haven't managed to find the right time to get after it again. Today isn't going to be the best day for it either.
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The horror on your face when it dawns on you that your escape from scrubs lead you to alien scrubs. Still, a fun reversal of a contact situation that gives insight on how the federation does things. Sorely underrated episode, though perhaps understandably so when there is a lot higher impact stuff it is competing against.
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AfroSquirrel posted...

Keep in mind that the episode First Contact and the movie First Contact are very different bits of Star Trek.

Yeah, the episode is actually good!

Ok, that's a bit of exaggeration, but FC the movie and FC the episode are good in so very different ways that it is almost comical. The movie is more like your average action romp that also happens to explore a key moment in Trek history, while the episode is a fairly quiet exploration of everything that Trek stands for. Definitely one of my favorites from this season.
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Im pretty sure that scrubs did not end over 20 years ago.
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Thanksgiving time is making playing problematic. Will try and resume tomorrow depending on how wise playing while full is.
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After trading a few blows with Karma (sorry about your salary, Badd), we uncover some truth. Delicia is actually....a pharmacist. Huh. She apparently just joined so she could eat desserts. Given her fingerprints everywhere combined with a still mysterious gloveprint unaccounted for...we can probably safely cross her off the list of potential suspects.

Further investigation will be needed, Gregory content to follow behind Karma. As they enter the victim's room, they're both stunned at the sight...everything is melted. What new turns will this case take?

To be continued!

Honestly, aside from Delicia's gluttony, we still know very little about this case.
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Oh...I just needed to reexamine a damn elf. Elves are always causing problems like this. The only good elf is a dead elf.

Anyway, a machine and a cloth is missing. Way ahead of you, game. Well, with regard to the cloth that is. The machine, while interesting, is largely an unknown quantity for now. Sounds like it will be all kinds of important later on.

Gregory thinks it a bit odd...Karma would have found this stuff too. Time for a little tango with the towering terror himself...

The body was wrapped in the cloth, and it is this factoid we show Karma. Really, that blood has such a glow to it that I almost want to suspect that there is no murder and this is all an artistic stunt pulled with the light machine and cream staged for some deep artistic rumination on what death by chocolate means in a modern world. There was no bakery competition, it was all art, and still is. A kinetic and transformative work.

As one would expect of a Karma, we're beaten back in about two seconds with the information that the special items were confiscated and placed in Master's room, further implicating him, despite Delicia's hidden agenda, whatever it might be.
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She doesn't like the cold. That's it? That's your reasoning? A comment on her age prompts me to look at the profiles. Delicia's age is indeed ???. Perhaps more worrying is that Master's age is 39 and his assistant/housekeeper is 16...japaaaaaaan.

As I recover from being japan'd, we connect the final two logics we have for this part of the case...Delicia's lack of knowledge and her special way of investigating a room full of chocolate.

Either she is such a savant at cooking that her ways are seemingly amateurish, or she's got a mammoth case of the dunning-kruger effect going on.

Hmmm...not entirely sure where to go from here, actually. Gregory said something about combining two things together, but that might have just been the logics, and I've talked to Delicia as much as I can for now.
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...gee, maybe the red bloodstain forensies missed might have something to do with them not working. Quite a blunt object, wouldn't you say? Hmmm...

The glaringly obvious bloodstain did make my brain miss the obvious bit that Gregory realized was a contradiction when I examined the other lamp. I'll need to deduce it, but yeah...these lamps are not a dessert, so would not be usable. Although, there are some cultures that view more salty things as a treat rather than sweets, but I doubt such technicalities would fly here.

I get some ominous 'hey, there's a b-b-bloodstain' music playing. Then I whip out the contest rules. You see, madam, in paragraph C subsection II it clearly states that....why are you looking at me like that?

...ok, we connect bluntness to the lamp. Forensies confirms that it is the victim's.

Some rather ominous music plays when we realize the doorknob isn't a dessert either. Like chill out game, she already broke the rules with the salt lamps, what's another door matter?

until...

Dun dun duuuun, everything in this room is a fake and everything we know is a lie! Or maybe it is just deep social commentary on our natural bias towards what we perceive to be a dessert. You never can tell with these artsy types.

With this much logic being connected, we gotta chat with Ms. Delicious some more...if that is even her real name!
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(took a food break there, did not intend to stop just yet)

Ho ho, Gregory doesn't want to think about his son being taught by such a man. The game is not lacking for nods to all the came before. I'd expect at least this much when dealing with the likes of Karma though.

...even a ladder/stepladder insert. Probably the only reason that ladder exists.

Dun dun duuun...the room temperature in the cream room is TOO HIGH. And to think, Karma surely would have known this much, but wanted to spend some time inside a slowly melting castle. How, other than sheer weight of personality, did he manage to not get cream all over him?

If Gregory hadn't mentioned it, I might not have caught it, but he said the cloth in the castle looked familiar...and sure enough, the body was wrapped in a blue cloth. Anyone's guess at the significance of this...just something to keep in mind for later.

Chatting with Ms. Delicious...she admits to being in Master's room, but only to eat a lot of chocolate, not to murder anyone. If I were in a room full of chocolate like that, I'd probably want to nibble here and there too, so I really don't blame her at all. I maybe would have had the good sense to not eat important ship supporting bits, however.

Obviously, the hexagonal rock things go in the hexagonal castle bits. But Karma doesn't want us to know about her 'goods'. Two large relaxational dodads and special glowing cloth. The salt lamps don't work and I am left wondering why they don't fix the temperature, argh, they're gonna get cream everywhere! Imagine being in charge of cleaning this room. So much sticky everywhere, and not in a fun way.
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What is it with Karma and christmas time, I wonder? DL-6 and now this case...

...oh lawl, Delicia Scones has such an animeface. Calls herself "Ms. Delicious". There's no way she is the killer, is there?

....Karma was inside the castle. In my head, when everyone entered the room, I thought it might be funny if he burst out of it with his fanfare. Now that it has actually happened...it is rather quite scary, in the way that everything this man does is.

His heart grows .03 sizes this day, and lets us lowly defense attorney folk look around the room while he goes off to do big boy prosecutor work, but only if Badd watches us closely. The pecking order is made blatantly clear here. Karma > Badd > Plebs.

And so, the second investigation can begin...
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Badd is now telling us that it has to be Master because only he had the mansion key to open the doors from the outside and there were no duplicates. Although since this is a cartoony style key, you could probably make one out of chocolate or something.

Even without hints on what to do like 'hey, maybe I should present evidence maybe', these early arguments are pretty easy since there is such a limited pool of relevant items. So Badd thinks that Master revealed the body in the chest, but we know that it was caused by dessert tampering by someone for some reason. Badd's unphased though...could have been self tampering, but there's no proof either way.

Basically, we don't know much of anything right now. Except that chocolate is delicious.

Oh gee...Delicia has fingerprints everywhere. This both makes her preeetty suspicious...yet almost too much so I'd say. I mean, the game is practically shouting at me 'hey, this lady person is pretty sketchy, you should suspect her, player!'.

Followed by the not-so-secret revelation that Manfred von Karma is the prosecutor.

'To Be Continued'

...I should have kept going for just a bit yesterday, huh.
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It is like I did a time warp to a different era, but all the mechanics are the same. Seriously...Miles' dad could call himself Clark Kent and nobody would bat an eye. He's got 50's written all over him, although given the actual time this is more like late 90's? Badd is his usual self, nothing is really jumping out at me about him, but it is nice to see him again! Ray though...while he adds a certain kind of forced levity that is practically mandatory for the series, I think I like his old self better. A much more relaxed and worldly sort of character, whereas here he's just a big goofball that eats memos. It makes for a nice contrast though.
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I know lots of things. There is chocolate and cream and sherbet. The cream lady probably did it because she was described as the do anything to win sort of person.

But yeah, this is shaping up like the prison case where initial impressions are gonna leave a lot to be desired.

I just know that my stomach is protesting me continuing any further without getting something to eat.
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I can examine the teapot...and there are PH initials on the bottom that match up with that signet, but the game makes no special note of that...for now.

Meanwhile, back at the chest...goodness they seem to have been awfully picky about where I clicked at. It was hard for me to tell that chocolate had been uplifted from this brown on brown crime scene. But I knew blood was missing, but the game threw me for a loop when that didn't seem to work.

Even so, we got some blood flavored chocolate on the loose!

Still not done? Alright...logic time. We connect the sound to the broken stand, which lets us raise the question of why the stand broke to begin with.

We connect that new logic to the tampering, and that ends this first investigation. Whew.
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I guess that....makes sense...now that i think...about it.

So, temperature controls, obviously not to be tampered with (for now). Gotta preserve that chocolate at 59 degrees...what a baby Ray's being. Maybe if it were in the 40's I could understand him being cold, but 59 isn't all that far off from being quite pleasant, really. I bet that somewhere halfway through the case we'll need to melt some of it to find something critical hidden inside. If nothing else, light changing will probably happen to make different things pop out.

Gregory feels like something is missing from the ship crime scene that was there before. He gave a not-so-subtle hint that I would need to deduce something, but I am looking at the photo, and aside from the body and blood, I don't see anything out of place.
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I don't remember....Badd using quite so many....ellipses...but maybe it has just been...too long.

A stream running throughout the rooms...that is begging to be important later.

Lots of things hidden about...most of them on that chocolate ship that is just begging to be eaten. This was not a case to start right before dinner. Still, we gather info on a teapot, a signet, and crime scene notes. A few logics too.

And up in the corner is some kind of karate chef who could probably rip out someone's heart with his bare hands before sauteing it. Dane Gustavia is his name. He feels like a red herring.

He's quite the candy pump practitioner. Can't call him a master given his failings at design, but it's a darn sight better than anything I could do, but then I am also not an anime. Apparently he's so prone to injury that it is why he wears red. Yeah, feeling more sympathy for this guy by the minute.

Judges went in a clockwise path...and there were four rooms. Master's, Gustavia's, Delicia's, and Dover's. Doesn't seem like we'll be dealing with a sprawling floor plan this case.
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Jeffery Master? Master Chef? Master Jeff? Bit of a weak pun, and I'm gonna be thinking of Jeff Zero to boot.

Ray's completely caught up in the moment. I guess he is gonna be our Maya for now.

The victim was someone called Isaac Dover. Maybe there will be a pun there later.

...this show is gonna be this game's Steel Samurai. Popular with the kids, argh. Stop it Ray, you're embarrassing yourself.

And so the houseguests drink some tea...out of a fancy star cup no less.

But no time to waste...got a murder to solve. The crime scene is a chocolate ship. Already on the scene is...Tyrell Badd! Makes sense he'd be here...he was around last game in the past.

I gotta say, Ray feels a bit out of place among these two serious looking characters. Feels awkward controlling Gregory too.
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I'll go with tea, a sensible drink for a sensible fellow like me.

I guess the cake puns weren't really spoiling much given that this cake show is in the first few seconds of the opening. After saying their names, they start sounding like glitchy pokemon, which I can only assume is a special problem I am having.

This dessert show sparks some memories from Ray, and he mentions something about a certain place and truth from 18 years ago.

The name of the place is the Zodiac Art Gallery, which is guaranteed to have something shady in its past with a name like that. Ray brings up the last case Miles' dad worked on, the IS-7 incident.

18 years ago in a land where buildings are covered in frosting-like snow...

The defendant enters the detention center with a song, the guard doing jazz hands. Yeah...this is gonna be something special alright, I can tell.
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bump. may or may not play later depending how i feel then.
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Scrubs is an acceptable show to be distracted by.
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bump. no playtime today, starting to feel a bit under the weather. we'll see how things develop.
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Guys, the sweet smell was Roland's perfume. We already solved this. It was a piece of cake.

I will make your eyes scream with bad puns, flan on it. Let it be known that you guys were the one to open Panera's box. (man I hope case 3 actually does have something to do with bread/desserts or else this is gonna look silly in hindsight, but that's the way the cookie crumbles)

edit: goshdarnit seabass, I spend several minutes of my life making a freshly baked post and then you have to go and mess everything up!
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The day is saved, Simon is a free man thanks to the work of Miles. There's still a few little questions left unanswered, but that will likely be for the courts to handle.

Miles has now gotten a taste of what it means to be a defense attorney, free to join his dad's agency at any time. Perhaps that is his ultimate fate, but for now he is still the prosecutor we all know and love.

On this familial note, the case ends, perhaps suggesting a tie in with the next case "The Inherited Turnabout".
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One final revelation, Miles' logic has not been misplaced, but misled. The chisel was not the murder weapon, but made to seem like it...to get Dogen expelled.

Pretty clear by now that the alligator has swallowed the real murder weapon. All the evidence on Dogen...which would include his knife, which would have had that bell. The knife is in the alligator, book it! (kinda silly to have to select the bell image to mean the knife logic attached to it).

Man that would have been such poetry if Dogen's knife had been the agent to expel him, but unfortunately for us meddlesome kids and our little dog too, it was not to be.

Does Miles raise an objection to stall for time? Finally, he compares himself to a certain someone.

Objection!

I like how he is inwardly fighting this every step of the way, but it could have ended no other way. He realizes the same method could have been used again that Dogen's dog had used...the ol' animal hides things in their mouth routine. What other animal could be big enough to pull this off, I wonder?

I appreciate how the game let this point slide, but also made it east to get to even if one hadn't been mentally focused on every word.

Anyway, strike three, touchdown, gooooooal (frick, I already used 'do not pass go', that would have been too fitting here)

Oh lawl...that breakdown. Her coat turned into ferrets, revealing prison garb underneath. Too fitting. That's definitely one thing this game has been aces about...so many top tier animations.
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Court is adjourned....but Hold it! Shields has some words to say, although he lacks anything fancy like an objection, he's still a defense attorney and will be heard. Might be the only actual attorney thing he does all case, but it is an important step for us. Hearing Roland's thoughts on the hypothetical murderer could offer a crack in her alibi.

Crack one...the chisel in the chessboard. Learned from her interrogating Knightley. Amazing how she's sweetened up to us with our interrogation all of a sudden.

Crack two...there was a connection between Dogen, whom Roland despises and Knightley. The chess memo she saw in Knightley's cell. Any connection was scrutinized as she was looking for Dogen's outside henchmen. Suddenly a motive appears!

But even this much is not enough, and Roland cries out against judgement. Perhaps one final crack will shatter her...

The chisel is not the murder weapon, but I can think of at least one sharp object that could work. The game pauses now to serve up some touchy feely moments about how Simon is Edgeworth's client and Miles is his only hope!
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Getting Knightley to her office and then through the garden into the courtyard...however, there is the matter of the fence being high voltage with the off switch being in the breaker room on the other side. Bit of a pickle for Miles to overcome.

The transformation is pretty much complete now, for Miles has blurted out "Objection" without anything to say. With only a second or two to think, he's gotta come up with something good!

Logically, she must have had an accomplice. And there is only one prisoner with a faulty bracelet that we know of too. Sahwit and Roland, partners in crime. Inb4 they're actually innocent and another investigation round to prove the elephant killed everyone.

Or, Roland could talk about how evil Dogen is. The mystery of how the supplies were smuggled in has been solved, as has the sweet scent. Everything is fully clear now except the damn murder. Argh.
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Fun how the guard that opened that door doesn't even question the glowing green hologram around him and everyone else.

Inside is....circuit breakers. How...normal. I guess that explains the security camera bit though.

As if informed that the case is coming to a close, Courtney and her pet monkey arrive on the scene.

Time to blow her mind with the results of our courtyard investigation. I wonder if it is intentional that a "court"yard has become a court for Miles and Courtney.

Regina doesn't outright say any names, but she does offer the notion that all the details about the show would need to have gotten approval by others before any setup happened. Which means there is a certain someone who would have known about it...

Miles doesn't want to believe it, and everyone else is like 'this sounds like something out of a mystery novel', but it seems that the murderer is finally going to be Patricia Roland. We just have to defeat whatever testimony she serves up and that should be that!
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Finally the rope that was one of the first pieces of evidence we got now holds some significance.

Oh...right then. There was a body switcharoo alright, but it was replacing weights. Now I feel a bit dumb. Due to the complexities of the device, Dogen could not be the killer. The operation of the device also suggests that the murder could have happened at a time other than the show, making one of the attendees a potential suspect. Is it the Warden? Sahwit? The alligator? It amazes me that we can be this far inside the case and still not really know much even when we do.

The elephant eating the apples suggests that the crate was moved the night before by someone...who also set up the body on the device. Putting this together, now the locked door behind the cart is important enough to be opened.

And naturally, the warden is in charge of the keys for that door. Hmmm....
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The game hasn't suggested anything to me after looking everything over, so I imagine that it is logic time. We have...Tools around the well, Astique the elephant, Simon's stunt, Metal detector, Missing apples, and 33 lbs weights.

Obviously the well materials and stunt go together....which is just what we needed to progress. Little bit of interrogation and explanation later, and we got an updated visual for the device used to simulate being blown away.

Simon needed to exceed his own weight to enable him to be blown away...I wonder if a person swap is in the near future, perhaps involving extra apples as additional weight to resolve a weight difference. That's the obvious take from what the game's given me, at least. We'll see where the inevitable upcoming arguments point to. For now, we gotta finish gathering all the pieces. Still got plenty of logic to connect.

The weight is not enough by itself, but we have a metal detector that might help us somehow. We have become the Gumshoe. Fitting his character, it happens when we have annoying beeps hitting our ears.

Curiously the alligator pond is giving off readings, which maybe makes sense if one has paid attention to idle conversation since Regina DID mention Ally feeling a bit off the other day. This case has been spot on about hinting at future connections, and I love it for that. Even makes me doubt this with it just being the weights, but then the alligator slides up and gives off readings too. Whatever the alligator is hiding, it is still a mystery why these weights were even over by the pond to begin with. What purpose would hiding weights serve?
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I gotta say, it is a little silly to go through the effort of recreating everything when there is a very serviceable picture in better resolution than what Little Thief can do. Sure, we wouldn't get the super important elephant logic from the picture alone, but logic can be found just about anywhere so that's not much of a barrier.

So it falls a bit flat here, but I know it has been well utilized in the past. Really, this is just the game saying 'btw, this is still a thing that exists, you have been warned'.

Gumshoe, MIssile, and Regina arrive, but unfortunately Missile is afraid of alligators. I can't say I blame the poor dog. With Regina around, we can get some refinement on the recreation at least.

Oh man, small mechanical tweak already. We can switch between recreations. Essentially the video mechanics, but with two frames. We'll see how much we really need to do that...I get the feeling that was more for a second chance to get elephant logic if the first recreation was triggered to end at the well.

One small nitpick...being technically a new environment, the new recreation still has some reused dialogue that can't be sped through because the game thinks it is fresh.

The game keeps referencing the blown away scene...I've had a feeling it has been important...I could see it causing someone to get blown into a well or whatever silly nonsense the case makes of it. In fact, now that I think about it, an elephant blowing someone away is kinda unrealistic, so that would explain the pulleys and stuff.
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Yeah, the tease is what's doing it. The case works up to a crescendo and then come to find out everything has been turned around so much that nothing makes sense. That and while it is still a fine case, I am ready for a change of scenery.

The well was hinted at being significant quite a ways back when we were first in the courtyard, but it was treated as nothing more than background fluff when examined. There being not only a tunnel, but a connection via the well certainly makes that a prime spot to look at this new day. Perhaps Keyes meant to use it to help Knightley escape or something...whatever the case, murder is still off the table for him, unless this game wants to send a particularly dark message to Miles and the player, which I highly doubt.

Unsurprisingly, the courtyard is now cleaned up. Roland is definitely involved somehow, but how deep remains a mystery. If only we had a holographic device that could recreate the former scene. *fingers crossed*

Or we could use Missile again and work with what we got. Thankfully the game realizes we've picked up a lot of evidence and has discarded some of it and reorganized.

Or...we could do both! Hang on to your hat Mr. Shields, you're in for a treat!

The effect seems a bit more glitchy around the edges than I remember, but the core of the mechanic is about the same.

The first thing we should look at is definitely the well, so I definitely can not say that most of the examine options are the same as they were minus the alligator pond and the elephant (which definitely would have given us a logic).
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