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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Its like going to restaurant and eating, but in the middle of it, a divider in the middle of the establishment is opened up, and you see all these people with less food than you.

This is the worst analogy i've ever read. I wish I could reparation you some education.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Is it finally time to stop ignoring the giant elephant in the room when these massacres happen?

Mental illness?
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I want to preface this by saying that, if real, my condolences go out to the family of those affectes by last nights events.

That being said this entire scenario seems suspect.

The supposed man behind the attack is Stephen Paddock, a 64 year old man with no social media history, essentially off the grid and whose past life cannot be accounted for. Seems suspicious that nobody can find any relevant backstory on this man and he seems to havejust "snapped" last night.

There has been many video recordings of what sounds like gunfire and then mass panic sweeping through crowds but there has been nothing to substantiate a lone shooter except "police updates." With the amount of surveillance that is spread across Las Vegas is there really no footage of the shooter?

I won't get into the politics that the aftermath of last night will bring but it would be very suspect if certain political figures use this to push for gun reform.

Just my 2 cents.
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Makes me disgusted that someone would try to use alleged racism to instead of taking responsibility for their actions ie; running from the police.
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RockRapDubstep posted...

it's not literally my job

Oh so it has to be your job in order for you to help other people out. Gotcha.
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Alabaster_Wings posted...

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TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Trump proved he was racist when he called black protesters "sons of bitches,"

He never called black nfl players "sons of bitches."

Yeah he did.

No he didn't. He said people who disrespect the flag. Show the clip or transcript of him saying black protesters.
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Trump proved he was racist when he called black protesters "sons of bitches,"

He never specifically called black protestors "sons of bitches."
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RockRapDubstep posted...

Some regular Joe doesn't have that capability because they're hot the president.

So because someone has more means to help they are obligated to do so? You're saying you have no means at all to aid in any way? I'm sure you could donate even $5 dollars right? Where is the line drawn that allows you to escape being labeled a "scumbag?"
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Doom_Art posted...

The_Donald posted...

Why does only the president have the moral duty to help others?

You're doing that thing where you act like you're making a great argument but you're not

Im not making an argument, im simply asking you a question.

You said the president is human garbage for not helping. Why does that logic only apply to him?
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RockRapDubstep posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

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Gamer99z posted...

because any half decent president who isn't human garbage would be helping them

When does your flight leave?

I didn't know he was the president.

Why does only the president have the moral duty to help others?
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Gamer99z posted...

because any half decent president who isn't human garbage would be helping them

When does your flight leave?
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gunplagirl posted...

So you say.

So i've shown.
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Balrog0 posted...

That's fine for the perpetrator of the crime, regardless of what I think. You can't pretend you care about the kids and say what the state does with respect to their parents is irrelevant, though.

It's not my moral duty to care about the kids, it's the parents and the parents should have the morality not commit crime and endanger their kids future because of it.

Balrog0 posted...

I'm not, I'm blaming them for their response to the individuals

Unfortunately this doesn't exist in a vacuum. It is impossible to apply philosophy to each individual case to find the best fitting punishment for the crime. It is impractical to implement in the real world, there isn't enough time and judges. It therefore belongs to the individual to be responsible for their actions and how it affects others.
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gunplagirl posted...

This word salad is explaining the context that disproves your interpretation of the statistics. Jeez, you'd think with all the math and science majors on CE they could actually do statistics right.

My interpretation of the statistics? I gave you the most lenient interpretation to help you're own argument and you were still unable to answer the question despite me being patient with your fallacies.

Speaks volumes about the foundation on which you've built your argument that you were unable to answer.
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Balrog0 posted...

It's not irrelevant to me in terms of locating blame.

The blame lies with the offender for partaking in the activity not the justice system for handing out the established sentence regardless of what you feel the sentence should be. I don't think we'll make any progress here.

Balrog0 posted...

If our laws are unjust and they lead to bad outcomes for kids in addition to being bad for the criminals and society at-large, I can absolutely blame the state for that.

Again we'll fundamentally disagree. You cannot blame the state for the actions of individuals.
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gunplagirl posted...

The_Donald posted...

I understand by this point you won't admit it since it goes against your narrative but all of the studies show that black fathers not being around IS the root cause of the struggles of African-American communities. Not racism.

If you want to ignore the historical (and still prevalent) systemic disadvantages afforded to people of color, perhaps you could draw that conclusion. However, that would be intellectually dishonest. Consider the fact that just based on income earned, there are studies that have been able to determine your approximate lifespan based on where you live. Consider the fact that housing discrimination occurred and put undesirables in small areas. Consider the funding for schools in these areas. Consider the economic future one can get while attending a lesser funded school. Consider in general how financial struggles growing up plays a role in many aspects of a person's personality, traits and money management. Consider the statistically demonstrated numbers showing that police profiling and justice system disadvantages result in more people of color being targeted and getting jail time while white people get off with lesser sentences for the same crimes. Consider how difficult it is to seek justice through the justice system is for people of color. Consider how people of color who are victims of crimes are portrayed with pictures of them appearing menacing. Consider the war on drugs and that people who worked with the masterminds of the crusade have said it was meant to target people of color and the black panthers. Consider how all of these historical and present day injustices result in the removal of adult males from African American communities. Consider how this creates a cycle. Consider how the overall minimal changes to the base circumstances continue to persist. It's able to continue on and on and would require a major overhaul of the economy (living wage/ universal income, swapping to a socialist system) and/ or police and justice system overhaul (actually punishing and removing officers who racially profile, equitable sentencing, reduction of charges for drug related charges).

You can't look at a cyclical process and say one part in it is the source when that part is merely a result of many other parts that started the process to begin with.

And here comes the generic word salad presented to slither away from answering the core question after being provided with the statistics. Try to stay on topic please.
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Balrog0 posted...

No, but I am saying that the actions the state takes with respect to the criminal can be as or more damaging to the child than whatever criminal activity the parent engages in; do you disagree? If so, why? Are all criminals created equal in your mind?

Do I disagree? It depends on the crime committed. That question is irrelevant since the consequences of breaking any law are set. The offender should have had more foresight into the actions they were taking and the possible consequences of them including those to the child.

You can advocate for changes in the law but the reality is that as of now you can't blame the state for being too harsh on a criminal, parent or not, since the responsibility lies on the individual to not engage in criminal activities
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Balrog0 posted...

but the state is just as culpable for that as the parents

if you think locking up someone's father is good for them except in the most dire of circumstances,

I see gunplagirl has bounced from the topic so I suppose i'll engage with this until she comes back.

Are you saying the state is responsible for the crimes committed by the individual? Are you also saying that if a man who has a child commits a crime he should be shown leniency since the child will be affected?
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gunplagirl posted...

Let me rephrase: is your determination of well raised children steeped in the premise of two parents, or is it merely one factor of many? That is, are you willing to concede that it is possible to have well raised children in single parent homes?

http://lib.post.ca.gov/Publications/Building%20a%20Career%20Pipeline%20Documents/Safe_Harbor.pdf

63% of youth suicides (Source: U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services, Bureau of the Census)

90% of all homeless and runaway children

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders (Source: Center for
Disease Control)

80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger (Source: Criminal Justice &
Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26, 1978.)

71% of all high school dropouts (Source: National Principals Association
Report on the State of High Schools.)

75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers (Source: Rainbows for
All God`s Children.)

70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice,
Special Report, Sept 1988)

85% of all youths sitting in prisons (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail
populations, Texas Department of Corrections 1992)

The numbers speak for themselves, children raised in single parent households are more likely to become addicted to drugs, drop out of school, and commit crimes. These are the rules not the exception which you want to falsely put forth.

I understand by this point you won't admit it since it goes against your narrative but all of the studies show that black fathers not being around IS the root cause of the struggles of African-American communities. Not racism.
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gunplagirl posted...

Is marriage the number one deciding factor in determining how well cared for a child is? I'll need that to respond properly

Don't move the goal posts. We're talking about how many of the parents are in the household. Whether the parents are married is irrelevant.

Now i've been generous and polite with this topic, i'll need you to answer the above question.

Do you believe that HALF of black households only having their fathers having visitation, per the absolute most generate interpretation of the statistics provided above, is a major problem in the black community?
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^ remember this is giving you the generous 100% of black fathers having visitation rights AND the 17% average of males getting custody even though i'd suspect it's lower in black communities since ya know, the system is racist against black males
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gunplagirl posted...

It then says sure, the number of single parent homes is close. And after that is the bit I copy and pasted above.

Lets say that a generous 100% of the 50% of single-parent household fathers have visitation rights. Since 17% of fathers get custody of their children as of 2007 we'll subtract that to get the 50% above,

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/latest-u-s-custody-and-child-support-data/


do you believe that HALF of black households only having their fathers having visitation is acceptable?

Remember I was generous in this question, be generous and answer in an informed and honest way instead of an answer that pushes your agenda.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

My point is if people like most CE users were in charge then, everyone would be dead. Or at least a lot of people.

Yup but we'd be alive :)
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I keep hearing over and over and over "We need to Nuke Korea now or go to expensive war and kill millions of innocents because if we don't do it now, They'll kill us so we need to do it first."

You realize it was an extremely popular opinion to nuke Russia right after WW2 ended. Ofc you don't you're ignorant of history.
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Will Caitlyn Jenner be called Tranpa?
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Sativa_Rose posted...

lol, this is like an episode of silicon valley

well if I don't figure this shit out I am probably getting fired, also I think the person who hired me didn't understand that Java and Node.js ain't the same thing

Just buckle down and do the best you can. Get off CE and Reddit and take this serious.
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SilkPanties posted...

Trump will take care of NK after he defeats ISIS. Just wait..

Sounds like you haven't been keeping up with your Middle Eastern politics. ISIS holds no major cities or towns and the majority of fighters have fled to Turkey. They have no influence in the region and have been squashed.
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I4NRulez posted...

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The Admiral posted...

Or maybe shaming the 70% of fathers who don't stick around and raise their kids. That's the single biggest issue that no public figure has the balls to discuss, yet nothing would make a bigger impact.

Quite true.

However bringing up sensitive topics like this gets you labeled racist for some reason.

Because they ain't true........


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5491980

Dont bother, i remember how many users argued about how minorities have lower IQs than whites regardless of how they were proven wrong

Dont bother, this is one of the most embarrassing articles i've ever seen even by HuffPosts standards. If you actually read it you'd notice they never address the main myths that are given. They skirt around it with stats that are irrelevant to the focal points.

70% of black children don't live in single-parent house holds, 67% do.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/29/don-lemon/cnns-don-lemon-says-more-72-percent-african-americ/
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Denzien_of_Sega posted...

I'm getting the sneaking suspicion being ignorant might be your sthick. Mention where I said laws were holding back blacks, not society. Then come back to me.

If they're are no laws holding back black people in America then all the rights that apply to every other ethnicity also apply to them. They're not 2nd class citizens in any sense of the word. Sounds to me as if the root of the problem comes from the African American community itself as they are unable to take responsibility and pull themselves from poverty and would rather complain about being oppressed even though no such oppression is to be found.
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pegusus123456 posted...

He became so racist that he can no longer tolerate the black text on white background that GameFAQs uses, so he was forced to abandon this place

I bet you thought that was a witty comment, eh?
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Rika_Furude posted...

second round, played solo

dropped in prison. found no weapons, no nothing other than a molotov and a backpack

got hurt down to about 65% hp, finall found a gun but then i got headshot and died in 1 hit a moment later

Follow the advice from post #9. Drop in the school over and over until you're constantly winning fights and learn how the guns react and you have your mechanics down. The prison sucks, always go for towns. You'll either be forced to fight and lose but learn from your mistakes or you'll win and learn how to advance past early game into how to manipulate the map.
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CensorErik posted...

This topic ONLY exists because of the NFL protests. I read it fine and I'm not the first person to mention it. When is the last time the highways were blocked by protesters?

No it doesn't these topics have been around since BLM sprang up.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/protesters-block-brentwood-boulevard-near-galleria/article_2fa7d3c3-7fc5-57f8-af62-2dac1b038b83.html

5 days ago.
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CensorErik posted...

GhostOfTrayvon posted...

TheoryzC posted...

Basically they want people to protest where no one can see or don't protest at all no matter what people are protesting

Or protest in a meaningful way instead of blocking highways.

NFL players were kneeling on highways!!??

BRB Googling this story I missed.

Nobody said NFL players were kneeling on highways. This discussion is about the general concept of protesting. Read a bit slower next time.
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Hes just speaking from personal experience.

FUCK ANDRE
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Hes been blacklisted for being a toxic asset to any locker room.
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37-0 and they go fake punt LOL
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Irony posted...

Zubat sucks anyways

Golbat and Crobat are pretty sweet though.
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shockthemonkey posted...

She has flat out said she's not running for office again.

Oh I forgot, crooked Hillary is your messiah. She never has and never could tell a lie. LOL.
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I Like Toast posted...

come on fournette td plz

I Like Toast posted...

booooooooooooooooooo

I want Fournette to get Td's as much as any fan but Mercedes Lewis deserves a game like this for putting up with this team his entire career.
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LORD RAMSEY!

caps
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creativerealms posted...

The_Donald posted...

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Suikoden posted...

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whitelytning posted...

Norm is a legend. Don't use him to push your political B.S.

Norm is pushing his own agenda in the video.

It looked like Norm McDonald telling a joke to me.

Yet the two liberals were tricked into saying tens of millions dead isn't as important as the hurt feelings of Muslims.

GOTTEM!

The joke Is on you and most liberals don't think that.

Yes they do.
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shockthemonkey posted...

The only people talking about Clinton running in 2020 are both righties and leftists mocking the idea.

and Hillary herself LOL. Can't stop the Trump train!
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The jags are smacking the Ravens o.O

It's beautiful so far ;-;
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Kineth posted...

Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Suikoden posted...

Kineth posted...

whitelytning posted...

Norm is a legend. Don't use him to push your political B.S.

Norm is pushing his own agenda in the video.

It looked like Norm McDonald telling a joke to me.

Yet the two liberals were tricked into saying tens of millions dead isn't as important as the hurt feelings of Muslims.

GOTTEM!
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Whose your teams over there in Englandland?
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https://nflstream.yahoo.com/

Get Sunday started right with a W from my Jags!
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LightningAce11 posted...

Did he really or is this another example of conservatives not being funny?

You don't think Norm MacDonald is funny?
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stone posted...

Vol2tex posted...

Now this one has a great body!

Maybe if you planned on cooking her up at some point.
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Ima guess that guy is from somewhere in Europe.
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