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The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely-connected and somewhat ill-defined[1] grouping of white supremacists, neo-Confederates, neo-Nazis, neo-fascists, and other far-right[2][3][4] fringe hate groups.[5][6] Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic and white supremacist,[7][8][9] frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism,[10][11][12][13] nativism and Islamophobia,[14][15][16][17][18] antifeminism, misogyny and homophobia,[10][19][20][21][13] right-wing populism[22][23] and the neoreactionary movement.[7][24] The concept has further been associated with several groups such as American nationalists and neo-monarchists, men's rights advocates and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[14][23][24][25][26]

White supremacist[27] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism and did so, according to the Associated Press, to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, neo-fascism and neo-Nazism.[28][29][30] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 United States presidential election.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
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eggcorn posted...

holy shit dude take a hint

To stop talking about radicalized young white men?
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More organized terror.


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On December 16, 2016, Tanya Gersh answered her phone and heard gunshots. Startled, she hung up. Gersh, a real-estate agent who lives in Whitefish, Montana, assumed it was a prank call. But the phone rang again. More gunshots. Again, she hung up. Another call. This time, she heard a mans voice: This is how we can keep the Holocaust alive, he said. We can bury you without touching you.

When Gersh put down the phone, her hands were shaking. She was one of only about 100 Jews in Whitefish and the surrounding Flathead Valley, and she knew there were white nationalists and sovereign citizens in the area. But Gersh had lived in Whitefish for more than 20 years, since just after college, and had always considered the scenic ski town an idyllic place. She didnt even have a key to her houseshed never felt the need to lock her door. Now that sense of security was about to be shattered.

The calls marked the start of a months-long campaign of harassment orchestrated by Andrew Anglin, the publisher of the worlds biggest neo-Nazi website, The Daily Stormer. He claimed that Gersh was trying to extort a property sale from Sherry Spencer, whose son, Richard Spencer, was another prominent white nationalist and the face of the so-called alt-right movement.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/

This is not random. This is organized terror.
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gnomefromnome posted...

ledbowman posted...

Funbazooka posted...

You're so far gone you're not aware of how ridiculous you sound. It legitimately sounds like you yourself have been radicalized.

I literally quoted the FBI.

No links to their site...

Yeah only a link to a congressional testimony on the subject by the head of the bureau.
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Funbazooka posted...

You're so far gone you're not aware of how ridiculous you sound. It legitimately sounds like you yourself have been radicalized.

I literally quoted the FBI.
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Alt-right being like al-Qaeda is not even debatable. It's a fact. There's abundant evidence that you don't have to dig for. Why would I have been modded in the first place? I legitimately don't understand.
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Jared Yates Sexton, an academic and journalist, was among the first to uncover the anti-Semitic and racist posting history of the person who created the Trump-wrestling-CNN meme. He tweeted out screenshots from HanAssholeSolos posts on the website Reddit, including a poster that identified dozens of CNN employees as Jewish.

Then, the death threats started.

Despite my Southern Baptist upbringing, they assumed I was Jewish because Id uncovered anti-Semitism, Sexton wrote in Politico Magazine.

People on Twitter sent him memes with Holocaust imagery, and a neo-Nazi site dubbed his agenda Jewish.

On Reddit and other forum sites, alt-right commenters talked openly of plotting to kill Sexton and other journalists. They spoke of the journocaust and public hangings of reporters.

If I could slit his flabby neck and dump him in a ditch somewhere without getting caught, I absolutely would in a heartbeat, one comment read. The only thing stopping me is that it would be inconvenient, and the fact that the law enforcement apparatus is still semi-functional.

Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/376424/trolls-stalk-journalist-who-exposed-trump-meme-makers-anti-semitic-history/

https://forward.com/fast-forward/376424/trolls-stalk-journalist-who-exposed-trump-meme-makers-anti-semitic-history/
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Hey @KingCrabCake post #209 is kind of interesting.
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KingCrabCake posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

So if two groups use the same techniques, said same techniques are actually not the same at all (even though they are) if one results in a higher body count?

They dont tho. So theres that.

ledbowman posted...

The threat of white supremacist violence in the US is as at least as dangerous as that posed by Islamist groups such as Isis, the head of the FBI has revealed.

Chris Wray, the recently confirmed new director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), said there were currently 1,000 ongoing investigations into domestic terror groups and a similar number of probes into groups driven by radical Islamist ideology.

We take both of them very, very seriously, he told senators on Capitol Hill. Our focus is on violence and threats of violence against the people of this country. Thats our concern - its not ideology.

According to The Hill, Mr Wray told the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee he considered the threat from both types of groups equally.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-white-nationalists-isis-threat-nazis-alt-right-trump-muslim-groups-terrorism-report-a7972136.html

ledbowman posted...

Does your research also apply to the rise of white supremacist groups in the U.S.?
Yes, what we are doing is very relevant since the alt-right groups live, recruit and coordinate (and hence evolve) online. And from what we can already see, they do so pretty much exactly like the pro-ISIS groups evolve and coordinate, but Facebook has so far been less quick to shut them down. So the question is: What was the activity of the online groups before Charlottesville? And if we look at their evolution (as we did for pro-ISIS groups) from now on, can we foresee the growth to an outburst like a future Charlottesville, but elsewhere in the U.S.?

https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-physicist-who-models-isis-and-the-alt-right-20170823/

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The-Apostle posted...

They really don't.

ledbowman posted...

The threat of white supremacist violence in the US is as at least as dangerous as that posed by Islamist groups such as Isis, the head of the FBI has revealed.

Chris Wray, the recently confirmed new director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), said there were currently 1,000 ongoing investigations into domestic terror groups and a similar number of probes into groups driven by radical Islamist ideology.

We take both of them very, very seriously, he told senators on Capitol Hill. Our focus is on violence and threats of violence against the people of this country. Thats our concern - its not ideology.

According to The Hill, Mr Wray told the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee he considered the threat from both types of groups equally.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-white-nationalists-isis-threat-nazis-alt-right-trump-muslim-groups-terrorism-report-a7972136.html

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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

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Paper_Okami posted...

The proof keeps piling up and you weirdos keep saying not all alt righters!

So would you be okay if someone did the same thing about another group...like muslims?

So you admit there's a connection.

No....

Your only argument is "Well they don't do it as much as Islamic terrorists." Good going.

No my argument is that an extremely small % of alt right members have been terrorists so theres no comparison

There is and the FBI agrees with me.
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1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman Begins
3. Superman
4. X-Men: Days of Future Past
5. Logan
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DirkDiggles posted...

ledbowman posted...

Purposely misrepresenting someone's point is not a good look.

Neither is breaking the ToS, but you keep doing it. lol

By comparing two groups that have produced multiple terrorists using nearly identical messaging?
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The revelations overcame Edgar Maddison Welch like a hallucinatory fever. On December 1st, 2016, the father of two from Salisbury, North Carolina, a man whose pastimes included playing Pictionary with his family, tried to persuade two friends to join a rescue mission. Alex Jones, the Info-Wars host, was reporting that Hillary Clinton was sexually abusing children in satanic rituals a few hundred miles north, in the basement of a Washington, D.C., pizza restaurant. Welch told his friends the "raid" on a "pedo ring" might require them to "sacrifice the lives of a few for the lives of many." A friend texted, "Sounds like we r freeing some oppressed pizza from the hands of an evil pizza joint." Welch was undeterred. Three days later, armed with an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle, a .38 handgun and a folding knife, he strolled into the restaurant and headed toward the back, where children were playing ping-pong. As waitstaff went table to table, whispering to customers to get out, Welch maneuvered into the restaurant's kitchen. He shot open a lock and found cooking supplies. He whipped open another door and found an employee bringing in fresh pizza dough. Welch did not find any captive children Comet Ping Pong does not even have a basement but he did prove, if there were any lingering doubts after the election, that fake news has real consequences.

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The next day, InfoWars posted a video called "Pizzagate Is Real." On November 27th, Jones spent a half-hour explaining the story. "Something's being covered up," he told his audience. "All I know is, God help us, we're in the hands of pure evil." Hours later, he released another video, "Down the #Pizzagate Rabbit Hole." On December 1st, the show posted "Pizzagate: The Bigger Picture." In North Carolina, Edgar Maddison Welch was obsessively watching much of this coverage. By the evening of December 4th, he was in solitary confinement in a Washington, D.C., jail.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/pizzagate-anatomy-of-a-fake-news-scandal-w511904
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Shit... crabby isn't gonna respond to me is He? :/

I said a bunch of things that people like him want to ignore but yet a part of assumed he would not ignore it :/ this sucks oh no wtf one :( damn it

He ignores my points too.
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For the misunderstood, the misanthrope or for a person who simply feels amiss, an alternative represents one of three things: a new path, a new plan of action or a new reality.

For Richard Spencerwho is quickly becoming the most visible white nationalist in the United Statesalternative represented a chance to rebrand.

Spencer is often credited for coining the term alternative right in 2008. Its meaning is vague, used as an umbrella term encompassing right-wing ideals at odds with establishment conservatism and multicultural society.

Keegan Hankes is an intelligence analyst at the Southern Poverty Law Center who studies the alt-right. The animating grievance of the alt-right is the same thing as white nationalism, Hankes says. Concern over white identity, belief that Western civilization is crumbling, that liberal democracy has failed, and that a symptom of this failure is multiculturalism.

Today, an online community comprised of entertainment-seeking trolls and true white nationalists find themselves mingling within this amorphous movement. This makes it difficult to land on a singular comprehensive definition of the alt-right. The term refers to an ideological island that hosts (all at once) a joke shop, a meme factory, media influencers, a Neverland for lost boys who feel disempowered or a dangerous sociopolitical movementdepending on who you ask.

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With its origins in online culture, the alt-right speaks the language of millennials and younger generations. Information (and disinformation) is distilled into easy-to-digest videos, memes and sound bites, often imbued with a snarky, nobody-understands-me tone.

If you catch an impressionable young person at the right time, that could easily be your red pill, as [the alt-right] would call it, Hankes said.

A consistent message in the alt-right movement is that working-class white males are being shut out and the government is looking out for all these other groups and the world is being taken away from us, Hawdon says. Especially if you spent a lot of time online, you could become convinced that everyone in the world is being handed [opportunities] except for you.

While Hawdon cautions that basically, anyone can be radicalized, a typical profile does emerge for students susceptible to alt-right messaging: young, white, male andin some wayfeeling powerless.

Dale Beran saw a pattern of young men who felt humiliated by traditional standards, whether because they were underemployed or deemed undesirable by women. Alice Marwick and Becca Lewis of Data & Society also noted a common disdain for political correctness and, often, social isolation in schools or communities.

https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/fall-2017/what-is-the-altright
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DirkDiggles posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Should citizens call the cops on people they suspect to be alt-right? Like when they see a white male wearing a a MAGA hat.

According to TC, not only the cops but Homeland and the FBI as well.

Purposely misrepresenting someone's point is not a good look.
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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Paper_Okami posted...

The proof keeps piling up and you weirdos keep saying not all alt righters!

So would you be okay if someone did the same thing about another group...like muslims?

So you admit there's a connection.

No....

Your only argument is "Well they don't do it as much as Islamic terrorists." Good going.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Paper_Okami posted...

The proof keeps piling up and you weirdos keep saying not all alt righters!

So would you be okay if someone did the same thing about another group...like muslims?

So you admit there's a connection.
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A man who shot dead a sheriffs deputy in Denver and wounded four others early Sunday posted alt-right content to his Facebook account.

Matthew Riehl, 37, was killed in a shootout with law enforcement after barricading himself inside his apartment and opening fire on five deputies and two bystanders. The authorities had been responding to a noise complaint at the suburban apartment building last weekend.

Right-wing extremism expert and Forbes writer J.J. MacNab uncovered Riehls Facebook page Monday. It has since been removed from the social media platform.

The page contained images of Pepe the Frog, a character that has been adopted as a mascot by the alt-right, a loose knit group of nationalists, white supremacists, misogynists and conspiracy theorists. The movement was behind the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August that left one person dead and several seriously injured.

The alt-right gained attention during the 2016 election campaign for its fervent support of Donald Trump.

On his Facebook page, Riehl also posted articles from Breitbart News, which the outlets executive chairman, former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, has called a platform for the alt-right.

http://www.newsweek.com/colorado-shooter-matthew-riehl-shared-alt-right-memes-facebook-767643
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The SPLC report, however, did not allege that Atchison was necessarily motivated to perpetrate the shooting by the alt-rights misogyny and racism, but rather that he spent years stewing in the online communities and propaganda that define the ideology and intentionally foster grievance, injustice, and resentment all well-documented predictors of mass violence.

A detailed investigation into Atchisons online presence conducted by the Daily Beast revealed that the troubled young man spent his days online creating pro-Trump memes, posting violent threats, and glorifying school shooters. He modeled his pseudonyms after mass shooters such as Adam Lanza, the notorious perpetrator of the Sandy Hook shooting, and Anders Breivik, the racist Norwegian shooter who killed 77 and injured 319 in 2011. Other pseudonyms included Future Mass Shooter and School Shooter.

Atchison also allegedly frequented the Daily Stormer, the racist alt-rights most notorious website, in addition to other known online communities favored by the alt-right, such as EncyclopediaDramatica, Kiwi Farms, 4chan and various videogame forums.

Atchisons affinity for and participation at the Daily Stormer was affirmed by the sites administrator, Andrew Auernheimer, in a recent episode of his radio show. Auernheimer, who goes by Weev online, also stated that Atchison had written to him on social media.

Last week we had an event happen where a kid that was an alleged Daily Stormer reader, Weev told his guest, Mike Peinovich of the Right Stuff. William Edward Atchison, he went to a school and he shot two spics and then he shot himself. Its a little bit surreal. I dont doubt this kid read the Daily Stormer. He left comments on my wall.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/02/08/evidence-new-mexico-school-shooter%E2%80%99s-involvement-racist-alt-right-overwhelming
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KingCrabCake posted...

I compared alt-right to al-Qaeda because they both groom terrorists

This is a solid quote

They have both produced multiple terrorists who were mentally conditioned by their respective groups. Also, do you know what a comparison is?
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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

I like how the strongest argument against the alt-right being a dangerous idealogy that's a hotbed for radicalization is that they're not 100% like that, some just want to shitpost about Pepe.

A small percentage of alt right members murder people...but yes lets equate the entire alt right to ISIS and shit.

#logicfromtheleft

Literally no one said this.

All that was said was that the alt-right recruits and radicalizes in a very similar fashion as ISIS and shit.

Stop with the misrepresentation.

You obviously missed his other topics

Prove it or stop lying.

Umm your last 3 topics plus your mod history

Quote where I "equate the entire alt right to ISIS and shit."
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The-Apostle posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

I like how the strongest argument against the alt-right being a dangerous idealogy that's a hotbed for radicalization is that they're not 100% like that, some just want to shitpost about Pepe.

A small percentage of alt right members murder people...but yes lets equate the entire alt right to ISIS and shit.

#logicfromtheleft

Literally no one said this.

All that was said was that the alt-right recruits and radicalizes in a very similar fashion as ISIS and shit.

Stop with the misrepresentation.

You obviously missed his other topics

Prove it or stop lying.

This exact topic proves it.

Cite it.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

ledbowman posted...

The most recent mod said "Again, do not imply that all people who are alt-right are the same as a known terrorist organization."

Man what

Here's the topic. Find where I "implied that all people who are alt-right are the same as a known terrorist organization."

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76329297
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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

Hey @KingCrabCake

ledbowman posted...

What does that have to do with what I said?

Dont tag me.

aka "I got nothing." Lmao
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Do the intelligence agencies take note of your findings?
Weve given a lot of talks and Im very impressed by how much interest U.S. agencies showed in this work. The unfortunate thing is, its basic science that were still trying to work out at the same time that were addressing the problem. So we dont have daily interaction with those agencies. They may be doing something in private; Ive seen our work mentioned in a lot of reports that are in the public domain.

Does your research also apply to the rise of white supremacist groups in the U.S.?
Yes, what we are doing is very relevant since the alt-right groups live, recruit and coordinate (and hence evolve) online. And from what we can already see, they do so pretty much exactly like the pro-ISIS groups evolve and coordinate, but Facebook has so far been less quick to shut them down. So the question is: What was the activity of the online groups before Charlottesville? And if we look at their evolution (as we did for pro-ISIS groups) from now on, can we foresee the growth to an outburst like a future Charlottesville, but elsewhere in the U.S.?

https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-physicist-who-models-isis-and-the-alt-right-20170823/
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KingCrabCake posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

I like how the strongest argument against the alt-right being a dangerous idealogy that's a hotbed for radicalization is that they're not 100% like that, some just want to shitpost about Pepe.

A small percentage of alt right members murder people...but yes lets equate the entire alt right to ISIS and shit.

#logicfromtheleft

Literally no one said this.

All that was said was that the alt-right recruits and radicalizes in a very similar fashion as ISIS and shit.

Stop with the misrepresentation.

You obviously missed his other topics

Prove it or stop lying.
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Hey @KingCrabCake

ledbowman posted...

What does that have to do with what I said?

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It raises the question: What is leading these people to such extremes?

I turned to experts on radicalization and terrorism for answers. One thing that surprised me: They consistently said that the processes of radicalization are similar across ideologies, whether the person is a jihadist, a white supremacist, or some other belief system.

The processes are pretty much the same, Mary Beth Altier, an expert on radicalization at New York University, told me. There arent really distinctions between joining a group like the KKK and ISIS.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/18/16151924/radicalization-white-supremacists-nazis
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The threat of white supremacist violence in the US is as at least as dangerous as that posed by Islamist groups such as Isis, the head of the FBI has revealed.

Chris Wray, the recently confirmed new director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), said there were currently 1,000 ongoing investigations into domestic terror groups and a similar number of probes into groups driven by radical Islamist ideology.

We take both of them very, very seriously, he told senators on Capitol Hill. Our focus is on violence and threats of violence against the people of this country. Thats our concern - its not ideology.

According to The Hill, Mr Wray told the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee he considered the threat from both types of groups equally.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-white-nationalists-isis-threat-nazis-alt-right-trump-muslim-groups-terrorism-report-a7972136.html
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White supremacists in the United States killed more than twice as many people in 2017 as they did the year before, and were responsible for far more murders than domestic Islamic extremists, helping make 2017 the fifth deadliest year on record for extremist violence in America, a new report states.

The report, Murder and Extremism in the United States in 2017, published Tuesday by the Anti-Defamation Leagues Center on Extremism, said extremists killed 34 people last year. Twenty of those victims or 59 percent were killed by right-wing extremists, a designation that includes white supremacists, members of the so-called alt-right and alt-lite, and members of the anti-government militia movement.

Of the 34 people killed, 18 were murdered by white supremacists, marking a 157 percent increase over the 7 people killed by white supremacists in 2016.

Thats also double the number of people killed by domestic Islamic extremists in 2017. Nine people were killed by domestic Islamic extremists last year, according to the report, eight of whom died in a single attack in New York.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-supremacist-murders-2017-report_us_5a5f59b0e4b0ee2ff32c4bea
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A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri, resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22 and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewskis account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to the NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events.

Wilson traveled with that group to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August of last year, according to court documents. There, men chanted Jews will not replace us in the college city while marching with tiki torches on August 11, 2017. The following morning, fights broke out between white supremacist and antiracist counterprotesters. Later that day, a white man drove his car into a crowd of people, allegedly murdering Heather Heyer, an anti-racist activist.

The alt-right, a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the Unite the Right event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year, was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriends parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker, in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report by The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures on Sunday was attracted to an alt-right ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone.

http://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacist-accused-amtrak-terror-attack-also-attended-alt-right-event-771495
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ledbowman posted...

exact opposite of Al Qaeda

lmao
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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

You cowards are dodging my point with this "generalizing" thing. This whole time I've been saying that the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists and providing examples that support it.

You literally said theyre like Al Qaeda iirc

Does al-Qaeda not also radicalize people to the point of murder?

Enjoy the ban hammer

How am I wrong?

Small % of the alt right have killed people...exact opposite of Al Qaeda

What does that have to do with what I said?
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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

You cowards are dodging my point with this "generalizing" thing. This whole time I've been saying that the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists and providing examples that support it.

You literally said theyre like Al Qaeda iirc

Does al-Qaeda not also radicalize people to the point of murder?

Enjoy the ban hammer

ledbowman posted...

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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

You cowards are dodging my point with this "generalizing" thing. This whole time I've been saying that the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists and providing examples that support it.

You literally said theyre like Al Qaeda iirc

Does al-Qaeda not also radicalize people to the point of murder?

Enjoy the ban hammer

How am I wrong?
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Killed 17.


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And the threat of murder?
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KingCrabCake posted...

ledbowman posted...

You cowards are dodging my point with this "generalizing" thing. This whole time I've been saying that the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists and providing examples that support it.

You literally said theyre like Al Qaeda iirc

Does al-Qaeda not also radicalize people to the point of murder?
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On April 4, 2009, Margaret Poplawski awoke sometime around 7am, and discovered that one of the two pit-bull puppies belonging to her son, Richard, had left a puddle on the floor. She woke him up and yelled at him to clean up the mess. A violent verbal shouting match erupted, and eventually Margaret called the cops to have Poplawski thrown out of the house.

When officers arrived, Margaret invited them in. She didnt realize that her son was standing directly behind her holding an AK-47 and wearing a bulletproof vest. He opened fire on the cops at point-blank range, killing them both. When a third cop arrived on the scene, Poplawski killed him, too.

Poplawski, it soon emerged, was a classic far-right conspiracist. He left an easily followed trail of postings on the internet that gave the public a good deal of insight into his motives for gunning down three police officers. Many of these were on white- nationalist websites such as Don Blacks Stormfront, where Poplawski had an account to which he regularly posted. Poplawski was also a fan of conspiracy-mongers Alex Jones and Glenn Beck.

Poplawski believed that the federal government, the media, and the banking system were all largely or completely controlled by Jews. He thought African Americans were vile and non-white races inferior to whites. He also believed that a conspiracy led by evil Zionists and greedy traitorous goyim was ramping up a police state in the United States for malign purposes.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/26/alt-america-terrorism-rightwing-hate-crimes
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"No one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me." - Dylann Roof


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YellowSUV posted...

ledbowman posted...

Is "Yall-Qaeda" still allowed?

lmao, haven't heard that one

I got modded for "alt-Qaeda" because apparently the alt-right and al-Qaeda aren't even remotely comparable and to do so is offensive.
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You cowards are dodging my point with this "generalizing" thing. This whole time I've been saying that the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists and providing examples that support it.
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Is "Yall-Qaeda" still allowed?
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Funbazooka posted...

Mischaracterizing the entirety of the alt-right is obviously the intent on display here.

ledbowman posted...

I said the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists.

Then I posted a bunch of examples.
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Funbazooka posted...

If murder and terrorism are defining characteristics of the alt-right

That's not what anyone is saying. Next.
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I saw images of my daughters face in gas chambers, with a smiling Trump in a Nazi uniform preparing to press a button and kill her. I saw her face photo-shopped into images of slaves. She was called a n***** and a d****.

When we both publicized some of the racist attacks I in National Review and Nancy in the Washington Post things took a far more ominous turn. Late the next evening while Nancy was, fortunately, offline attending a veterans charity event in D.C. the darker quarters of the alt-right found her Patheos blog. Several different accounts began posting images and GIFs of extreme violence in her comments section.

Click on a post and scroll down and youll see pictures of black men shooting other black men, close-up images of suicides, GIFs of grisly executions the kinds of psyche-scarring things that one cant unsee. Had I not deployed to Iraq and witnessed death up close, the images would have shocked me. I quickly got on the phone with Nancy, told her not to look at her website, and got busy deleting comments and blocking IP addresses, but in the meantime a few friends and neighbors had seen the posts.

The next Sunday, friends from church approached, expressing concern not just for our safety but for theirs as well. We live in a community where most of the streets have similar names, and its common for UPS drivers, FedEx deliveries, and friends to end up at the wrong house. They interpreted the images as threats, and they didnt want anyone to drive into our neighborhood, looking for the Frenches, intent on turning image into reality.

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Erick Erickson experienced his own ordeal more than a month before we did. After Erickson dis-invited Trump from his Red State gathering, angry Trump supporters showed up at his house. A grown man yelled at his children at a store, condemning their father for opposing Trump. Erickson wrote in the New York Times that his son is still fearful that Trump supporters will come back to their home.

In March, writer Bethany Mandel related her own experience. After tweeting about Trumps anti-Semitic followers, she was called slimy Jewess and told that she deserves the oven. It got worse:

Not only was the anti-Semitic deluge scary and graphic, it got personal. Trump fans began to dox me a term for adversaries attempt to ferret out private or identifying information online with malicious intent. My conversion to Judaism was used as a weapon against me, and I received death threats in my private Facebook mailbox, prompting me to file a police report.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/10/donald-trump-alt-right-internet-abuse-never-trump-movement/
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