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TopicWhat part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?
legendary_zell
02/20/18 9:17:56 PM
#40
For decades, there was no individual right to bear arms and no legal problem with gun control. It's literally only in the 80s-90s that the current interpretation of an individual right started to bubble it's way up through right wing. Even conservative justices have referred to this current interpretation as a fraud. There is nothing obvious about an interpretation that stops AR-15s from being banned or regulated.

That's because Scalia did some creative historical analysis and conflated the right to bear arms with the right to self defense and the right to have a revolution. All three are separate things. This whole thing about a "prefatory" vs "operative" clause is an inherently circular argument that was not taken seriously until a widespread information/misinformation campaign successfully convinced conservatives and then the American public that the whole militia thing was irrelevant.

Basically, the current interpretation is a result of a fixation on originalism, agenda driven amateur historical analysis, luck, and one side having extremely intense feelings about guns.
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TopicPeople Still Buy Androids Because...?
legendary_zell
02/20/18 5:01:29 PM
#92
Azarias posted...
LockeMonster posted...
Plus, the green bubble meme is definitely real and I know chicks that legit get mad over it.


What is this?


Basically, a lot of people, (especially attractive women) hate the green bubbles texts that come from android phones. iMessage gives blue texts with read receipts, typing notifications, more compatible with group messaging etc. Android/green texts are also what comes up when an imessage fails. So they are considered ugly and low tech. Plus there's also the perception that the other person is less cool/well off because they had to get a cheap android instead of an iphone.
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TopicPeople Still Buy Androids Because...?
legendary_zell
02/20/18 4:47:27 PM
#87
LockeMonster posted...
Lol at people deluding themselves into believing adults are buying Android and teens are buying iPhones.

Almost every single woman period has an iPhone here in NY. On top of that, most adults have iPhones as well.

The only people that even have Androids are poor people using some cheap $100 version, ignorant people and tech guys like me.

And lol at people even shitting on iOS nowadays. You guys sounds like you're still stuck in 2012 where that shit belongs. IRL, even the most diehard haters stopped with that shit because most of the people they know have iPhones and getting an Android doesn't get you anything special. Plus, the green bubble meme is definitely real and I know chicks that legit get mad over it.


ToadallyAwesome posted...
I have used both. IPhones just work more seamless.

Also iPhone is where the money is for the developers. So they work and actually release the apps for Iphone/IPad first. Android comes later if at all.

Also I get that Androids can have more features but generally your average user will not take advantage of that due to not knowing how to get to those features or they do not care.

IPhones just work. Getting things to work on Android can be a process. And not talking about games or roms. Im talking about business apps


Both of these. I used galaxy phones from 2010 to 2015 and was android all the way. Then my sisters got iphones and they were clearly just better for everyday use and so I got one. There is no comparison really. Imessage, blue text(this really does matter, believe it or not), app performance, speed, reliability, you name it, it's simply better. There is certainly far less customization and options, but 98 percent of people have absolutely no use for all of that.

That said, the lack of a headphone jack is ridiculous and apple maps/Apple Car Play are not nearly as good as their android equivalents. I am tempted to go back to Android just because of these two things. Overall they pretty much balance out and are about equal. Though from my experience, IOS is clearly better for day to day use.
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TopicHey guys. Just wanted to say that I'm giving up on trying to get a girl.
legendary_zell
02/20/18 2:15:17 PM
#19
I'm being 100 percent honest with you. You really should put the pursuit of a relationship on the backburner until you pick up some more social skills and lose some of your bitterness towards women. They may not know exactly what is wrong, but most women would be able to sense that something is off about you within a message or two. Maybe even from your pictures.

Your goal should be to at least become normal enough not to set off immediate alarm bells. Then your goal should be to gain true respect for yourself and for women. You'll likely see a lot more success if you can do all of this. Even if you don't, you'll be a much happier and better person.
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TopicWhat are some essential punk/pop-punk songs?
legendary_zell
02/19/18 10:08:14 PM
#28
Adolescents - Amoeba
X-Ray Spex - Oh Bondage! Up Yours!
Sex Pistols-God Save the Queen
Sex Pistols-Anarchy in the UK
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Topic1 billion but you have to be 1 foot away from device playing 300 decibel sound
legendary_zell
02/19/18 12:56:49 AM
#31
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
dodgefan91 posted...
http://www.decibelcar.com/menugeneric/87.html

310dB - Krakatau volcanic eruption 1883. Cracked one foot thick concrete at 300 miles, created a 3000 foot tidal wave, and heard 3100 miles away, sound pressure caused barometers to fluctuate wildly at 100 miles indicating levels of 190db at that distance from blast site. Rocks thrown to a height of 34 miles.

Yeah, youd be dead in a fraction of a second


That's not even a sound at that point, that's just a death wave.
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TopicHave you ever proposed to a woman and she said no?
legendary_zell
02/18/18 6:07:11 PM
#17
If these guys are so inept they don't talk to girls, then they'd never get close enough to even delusionally think that proposing is a good idea. And if they're even slightly well adjusted, they'd know that you don't propose until saying yes is a given because that kind of rejections can crush souls.
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TopicCongress is looking to, uh, weaken the Americans with Disabilities Act
legendary_zell
02/15/18 7:34:27 PM
#61
r4X0r posted...
All this does is protect business owners from people looking to hit the lawsuit lottery by going "they discriminated against me!" Now businesses will have to be informed in writing that changes need to be made to their facilities, and they will have six months to comply. THE HORROR!

Like most things, the moaning about it is largely because it's Trump. If it were Obama, you'd all be applauding his move to protect job creators while preserving the rights of the disabled.


There is no lawsuit lottery when it comes to this. You can't even get money damages in ADA cases. The easiest way to prevent these lawsuits it to make your place of business accessible. Again, they've had since 1990.
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TopicCongress is looking to, uh, weaken the Americans with Disabilities Act
legendary_zell
02/15/18 6:11:18 PM
#47
Questionmarktarius posted...
Actual text of bill:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/620/text

Antifar posted...
The bill creates a new notice and cure requirement in the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would force people with disabilities to provide businesses with written notice of access barriers that need to be fixed, then wait for months to see if substantial progress has been made in removing them. This effectively exempts businesses from complying with their obligations under the ADA and proactively ensuring that people with disabilities have access to places of public accommodation.

What's so "bad" about that, instead of just having a process server suddenly show up with a multimillion dollar lawsuit?


Because that completely neuters the original intent of the ADA. It's not just a revision, it changes the whole framework and intent of the law. Instead of businesses having the proactive duty to make sure their businesses are accessible, people would have to be denied access and then wait months while not having access to see if the business decided to fix something that they've had since 1990 to fix, and THEN they get the right to begin a lawsuit. All the while, they don't have access to the business and its services.
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TopicCongress is looking to, uh, weaken the Americans with Disabilities Act
legendary_zell
02/15/18 5:06:20 PM
#40
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms are a right.
The ADA is protections that take precedence over the rights of others.


I'd consider the ADA far more important of a right than the right to bear arms. The ADA allows millions of people to full participate in society and protects them from abuse and discrimination.

The second amendment gives people access to specific, particularly effective tools, but it is not the right to self defense itself or the right to overthrow the govt etc.
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TopicCongress is looking to, uh, weaken the Americans with Disabilities Act
legendary_zell
02/15/18 4:45:36 PM
#32
I have personally prosecuted a lawyer who misused the law. Courts are not sympathetic towards people who do this, they don't get anywhere. A guy who did this in Austin can't even practice in federal courts in the area anymore because he pissed people off so badly. The law does not need to be changed because of a few bad apples.

There are still so many locations and businesses that don't comply with the law as it is. The law is already difficult to be enforced, it does not need to be weakened. The vast majority of people who make ADA claims already give businesses notice and already wait an inordinate amount of time to have access to basic public accommodations. This law was passed in 19 goddamn 90, people have had enough time to hear about it and comply.
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TopicADL: White supremacist group admits ties to Florida shooter
legendary_zell
02/15/18 1:34:26 PM
#61
Doom_Art posted...
legendary_zell posted...
I really feel like you've gone off the deep end in the last few months. You've become angrier and more conspiracy driven. I felt like you were at least somewhat reasonable in the past but now you're more and more absorbed in grievance and identity politics. Dude, they independently admitted that he trained with them, what is the reason for this post?

IIRC he's openly stated he recruits for alt-right/white nationalist causes online


Yeah, I've seen him gleefully say that things will drive more people towards white nationalist causes. I remember when I first noticed him on this board, he seemed to just be a guy with questionable views on social issues, but now...he's this. I guess this mirrors the radicalization happening online and throughout the country.
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TopicADL: White supremacist group admits ties to Florida shooter
legendary_zell
02/15/18 1:30:54 PM
#53
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So a Hispanic guy who killed white people was part of a white supremacist group???

Totally adds up.


I really feel like you've gone off the deep end in the last few months. You've become angrier and more conspiracy driven. I felt like you were at least somewhat reasonable in the past but now you're more and more absorbed in grievance and identity politics. Dude, they independently admitted that he trained with them, what is the reason for this post?
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TopicSo the shooter had a history of showing people his weapons and being psycotic
legendary_zell
02/15/18 11:38:29 AM
#18
GregShmedley posted...
Squall28 posted...
Hunting and sport are recreation. They are fucking toys. People successfully using them for protection are extremely rare.


Hunting is not recreation. It can be, sure, but it is not recreation overall. Hunting is the most humane and cost effective way to get meat.

And there are low estimates of 55,000 to highs of 4,000,000 instances of defensive gun use a year so you are incredibly wrong.


Where are these ranges from? How is a "defensive use" defined? Isn't the range so incredibly wide as to be useless or suggest that it was estimated in an unreliable manner? And isn't that an incredibly low number considering the number of guns and gun owners out there?
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TopicFBI Director testifies under oath that White House knew about Porter for 10 mos
legendary_zell
02/14/18 3:31:39 PM
#16
Axiom posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Fake news.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/white-house-clarifies-fbi-directors-testimony-on-porter-timeline/

...you literally link dailycaller who quotes Sarah Huckabee Sanders of all people and you call the OP fake news

Lol

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Topicmed students don't know how to use fax machines, causes concern
legendary_zell
02/12/18 12:38:06 PM
#26
Balrog0 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Faxes are mostly used in medical and legal work and never in real life. It makes sense that your average person isn't gonna know how to use one. It's no longer a basic necessary skill, even in an office setting.


who said it didn't make sense? it's still an interesting thing


I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just preempting the "millennials don't have basic life skills" argument this could lead to.
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TopicObama's official portrait unveiled
legendary_zell
02/12/18 12:35:34 PM
#75
I see why he picked the guy though, all his other work is great and interesting. The "hidden in the background" thing looks better in every other painting. Maybe the pressure of a presidential portrait made the artist choke?
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Topicmed students don't know how to use fax machines, causes concern
legendary_zell
02/12/18 11:56:36 AM
#14
Faxes are mostly used in medical and legal work and never in real life. It makes sense that your average person isn't gonna know how to use one. It's no longer a basic necessary skill, even in an office setting.
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TopicObama's official portrait unveiled
legendary_zell
02/12/18 11:19:11 AM
#17
There's so many issues with this.

First of all, it reminds me of this. https://imgur.com/gallery/kax7B

Second, where the hell is he situated in time and space? It looks like he's in the middle of an endless bush and the chair is attached to the bush by...nothing?

He simultaneously looks like he has no feet/shoes and that he has hooves for feet.
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TopicDoes a girl's body count matter to you?
legendary_zell
02/12/18 11:14:42 AM
#35
I wouldn't even talk to a girl with less than 20 confirmed kills.
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Topic10 Cloverfield Lane is like... What is it even
legendary_zell
02/11/18 3:46:02 PM
#7
NadYobWoc posted...
Its the only good cloverfield movie

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Topic"Single mothers are not the problem" regarding poverty in the U.S.
legendary_zell
02/11/18 2:49:41 PM
#12
FLUFFYGERM posted...
legendary_zell posted...
I don't have a problem with any of the economic stuff you said necessarily. I'm only talking about "single motherhood destroy's the manhood of men" thing.


The State subsidizing single motherhood does destroy healthy masculinity.

legendary_zell posted...
The solution is to do both and not leave people behind because of "personal responsibility".


Or we can expect our educated citizens to be responsible adults and not take away someone's resources to subsidize the mistakes someone else makes.


These are both purely worldview statements. See what I mean?
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Topic"Single mothers are not the problem" regarding poverty in the U.S.
legendary_zell
02/11/18 2:31:25 PM
#10
The solution is to do both and not leave people behind because of "personal responsibility".
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Topic"Single mothers are not the problem" regarding poverty in the U.S.
legendary_zell
02/11/18 2:30:45 PM
#9
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Single parent households are more likely to end up in poverty because there's just one parent doing all the parenting/working instead of two. And there IS evidence that children of single mothers are more likely to commit crime than children who had two parents.

It's a tough regression problem due to the number of variables out there, but to deny that it is a factor is to be dishonest. You lean really left and it seems to me that the far left is almost making it a virtue to be a single parent that relies on the state, so I find it funny that you're accusing ME of holding to "just my worldview" or w/e lol. I could easily say that about you.

Here's an interesting read from a source that leans left.

https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2012/12/the-real-complex-connection-between-single-parent-families-and-crime/265860/

In any case, the solution to this is for the left to go back to embracing the nuclear family and strong marriages, rather than for the left to champion the State taking over the role of the father or the mother.


I don't have a problem with any of the economic stuff you said necessarily. I'm only talking about "single motherhood destroy's the manhood of men" thing.
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Topic"Single mothers are not the problem" regarding poverty in the U.S.
legendary_zell
02/11/18 1:15:07 PM
#7
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Such a severe penalty is unusual. In a majority of rich democracies, single mothers are not more likely to be poor. Denmark, for example, has chosen to provide universal cash benefits and tax credits for children, publicly subsidized child care and health care, and paid parental leave. Because of these generous social policies, single mothers and their children have a similar level of economic security as other families.

This is why. When the nanny state is indirectly paying for you to raise children on your own, effectively replacing the husband as the main breadwinner or a breadwinner, you can sort of hobble along. I'd be interested in seeing the long-term ramifications of this, though. AFAIK being raised in a single parent household does a lot of damage to children and strips men of their sense of masculinity and purpose.


LMAO, I'd love to see any reputable study saying this. Single parent households are less than optimal due to poverty, not this other stuff. That seems to come from nowhere other than your worldview.
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TopicFather of 4 leaves his wife and kids to be with his sex doll.
legendary_zell
02/08/18 2:55:03 PM
#91
GiftedACIII posted...
legendary_zell posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Wow, CE is a pile of trash. Y'all hate women so much that some of you are unironically defending someone humiliating and abandoning his wife and children for a sex doll. So that he can avoid his responsibilities and have a sex slave instead of a partner with opinions and a separate will.

Seek help. This is not the opinion of a white knight or cuck or whatever other reflexive insult. It's simply the view of 99% of well adjusted human beings.


I mean, the normal assumption is that there are obviously some major issues between this man and his family and he would've left them regardless. The sex doll aspect is just something unordinary that differentiates this story from the countless other stories of divorces that are occurring as we speak.


Or this guy could be insane or incredibly selfish. It is likely all on him. The kids surely didn't do anything to provoke this and I don't see why we should assume his wife did either.


That's also true. It could be either. Like I said, other than the sex doll aspect, it's just another divorce story which is extremely commonplace in western society. However, why is it more likely it's all on the man? Just because of the sex doll? So if a woman uses a dildo and has a divorce is it "likely all on her"? Sounds like you're just projecting your own sexism.


"Just because of the sex doll"....lmao. What a sentence. This is exactly the type of stuff I'm talking about. Only on CE could you blame a guy for leaving his wife and 4 children for a sex doll and get accused of sexism against men. Without the sex doll, this is a completely different story in every way. Furthermore, generally if you leave your kids and spouse for an inanimate object, you will receive the blame and it will be assumed that you were the main problem. This isn't because he's a man, it's because his actions and statements indicate fundamental instability.
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TopicFather of 4 leaves his wife and kids to be with his sex doll.
legendary_zell
02/08/18 2:45:07 PM
#89
GiftedACIII posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Wow, CE is a pile of trash. Y'all hate women so much that some of you are unironically defending someone humiliating and abandoning his wife and children for a sex doll. So that he can avoid his responsibilities and have a sex slave instead of a partner with opinions and a separate will.

Seek help. This is not the opinion of a white knight or cuck or whatever other reflexive insult. It's simply the view of 99% of well adjusted human beings.


I mean, the normal assumption is that there are obviously some major issues between this man and his family and he would've left them regardless. The sex doll aspect is just something unordinary that differentiates this story from the countless other stories of divorces that are occurring as we speak.


Or this guy could be insane or incredibly selfish. It is likely all on him. The kids surely didn't do anything to provoke this and I don't see why we should assume his wife did either.
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TopicFather of 4 leaves his wife and kids to be with his sex doll.
legendary_zell
02/08/18 1:14:01 PM
#72
Wow, CE is a pile of trash. Y'all hate women so much that some of you are unironically defending someone humiliating and abandoning his wife and children for a sex doll. So that he can avoid his responsibilities and have a sex slave instead of a partner with opinions and a separate will.

Seek help. This is not the opinion of a white knight or cuck or whatever other reflexive insult. It's simply the view of 99% of well adjusted human beings.
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TopicWhich of the four major sports takes the least amount of skill to play?
legendary_zell
02/05/18 3:20:12 PM
#73
I feel like people are defining skill in different ways. Some are using amount of practice, difficulty at the highest level, difficulty at the lowest level, average difficulty, athleticism, and technical skill. Makes it hard to get any type of agreement since that wasn't defined from the outset.

Anyway, baseball definitely has the most difficult single skill, batting which is amazingly difficult when you think about it and even more so when you try to do it. Next would be being a hockey goalie and a passing quarterback imo.

Basketball and football clearly require the most athletic ability such as body control and endurance.

Baseball and football are probably the easiest to pick up and play. Baseball has the biggest jump in difficulty as competition increases though.

Ultimately, I think football takes the least skill by most of these definitions.
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TopicLast time one of your favorite professional sports teams won a championship?
legendary_zell
02/04/18 11:01:32 PM
#37
TomNook20 posted...
Few months ago world series baby.

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TopicWhat is this FISA memo and why are Democrats suddenly losing their shit over it
legendary_zell
02/01/18 10:06:10 AM
#49
TC seemed to imply that they weren't aware of what this memo was and that they didn't have fixed opinion on it. But now they're attacking everyone who implies this isn't Watergate x1000. Hmmm.
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TopicIs #metoo sexual McCarthyism?
legendary_zell
01/29/18 12:04:01 AM
#8
26_Sandman_39 posted...
It's why you can get fired for things that aren't proven.


I feel like there should be laws against wrongful terminations. Oh wait, there are and they get ignored.


There aren't, it's called at will employment. If you want more protections for workers, I sure hope you're a big supporter of unions and vigorous enforcement of discrimination laws.
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TopicIs #metoo sexual McCarthyism?
legendary_zell
01/28/18 10:42:03 PM
#5
Due process has nothing to do with non-court related issues. It's why you can get fired for things that aren't proven. People can choose to view you negatively or stop associating with you. That's not a violation of any type of legal rights.
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TopicIs #metoo sexual McCarthyism?
legendary_zell
01/28/18 9:39:06 PM
#2
Or or or or....there's a lot of garbage dudes who have been getting away with terrible things and people are just now feeling empowered to call them out and are actually seeing some consequences now.
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TopicAs a generalization do you believe life is harder for black people than white?
legendary_zell
01/27/18 1:46:37 PM
#61
Are people really arguing that there are No important social aspects of race that make life harder? It's all about the money? That's simply not accurate and that view won't stand up to the slightest push back. Y'all really really live in a bubble.
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Topichow is "My body. My rules" a valid argument for abortion?
legendary_zell
01/25/18 10:53:07 PM
#41
Antifar posted...
This is my favorite genre of shit

Person A: "If X were true, then that would mean Y!"
Everyone: "Yeah, we're pretty much fine with Y. That is...not a problem for us."

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TopicTrump Ordered Mueller Fired back in June
legendary_zell
01/25/18 10:51:24 PM
#65
prince_leo posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/956729170700259329
This reminds me of all the times Sean Hannity went in great detail about the peepee tape every single time he had to bring up the dossier.

wow


This is like a parody of news today that you would see on SNL or Mr. Robot or something. Only it's real. This is pure propaganda, literally accusing others of distraction for telling the truth and then obscuring the truth through distraction. Wow.
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TopicWhy is nobody talking about the FBI actively colluding to fight Donald Trump?
legendary_zell
01/24/18 4:47:06 PM
#48
s0nicfan posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I love how angry Trumpers get at the (justified) lack of reaction to these stories

*stomps feet* "WHY IS NO ONE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY REEEEE"


The biggest story of the past year has been the investigation into the possibility that trump colluded with russia to rig the election. It's been nearly 24/7 coverage of it. We're being told its the watergate of our time, and one of the most important events in modern politics.

Now we have hard evidence that someone relatively high in the FBI actively tried to rig the election and may have had help, and we're being told this is a "nothingburger"

I'm sure you'd understand why some people would take issue with the hypocrisy. I also understand why people who hate trump would shrug it off. "No bad tactics, only bad targets" after all.


Where is the evidence that anything was done? Even if something was done, it wouldn't constitute rigging. I don't see how a few agents could possibly rig an election.

I don't think anyone is saying what you are attributing to "liberals". If FBI agents really attempted to influence the election, that's bad and should be investigated and punished, I don't think you'll find liberals attempting to taint or shut down a legit investigation like the right is with Mueller. You're not gonna have the NYT saying the prosecutor should be fired like the WSJ did with Russia.

It's also markedly worse when a candidate is the one conspiring any with a foreign country in a way that harms our national security and faith in democracy.

There's no same thing both sides here and there is no equivalency. The level of proof that something truly unethical or illegal was done is also not equivalent.
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TopicWhy is nobody talking about the FBI actively colluding to fight Donald Trump?
legendary_zell
01/24/18 4:20:49 PM
#45
Oh look, apparently thousands of FBI phones were affected by the glitch and tons of messages were deleted, not just Trump related ones. Kinda puts a damper on this part of the conspiracy theory
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TopicAn open letter to men who consider themselves allies to Female Supremacy
legendary_zell
01/23/18 1:26:28 PM
#20
I'm not sure what kind of strawman this is or what effect you hoped to have, but this is embarrassing. There are better things you could be doing with your life.
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TopicWhy is nobody talking about the FBI actively colluding to fight Donald Trump?
legendary_zell
01/23/18 11:55:26 AM
#34
s0nicfan posted...
legendary_zell posted...
First you need to show an actual attempt was made. You'd need to show they did anything more than talk. You'd need to show it had any sort of affect on the real world. Lots of people are biased in this world, do you really think investigators are typically neutral? The difference is that these people were especially careless and text messaging exists now.

You'd also need to show they had any influence on biasing the investigation previously since they are no longer working on the investigation. Their mere internal bias and presence on the team isn't enough to actually cause things to operate differently than they would have with an objectively neutral team.

Once you prove all of these things, then you might have a case for a somethingburger (which is just a burger I guess).


I've been told repeatedly that it can take up to 2.5 years for investigations like this one to conclude, so given that new details are still coming out and Trey Gowdy of all people thinks there's something serious underneath it all, I'd say that's reason enough to hold off on concluding that it's a nothingburger.


Is that Trey Gowdy thing supposed to help your argument? That's like me saying "well Chuck Schumer believes there's really something to those pee tapes". We don't have enough information to completely dismiss the possibility of improper conduct during the election and I'm sure that'll be investigated thoroughly. I think it's pretty safe to dismiss the idea that they tainted the Russia investigation, especially as it's been conducted since they were removed. So at most you have two guys trying and spectacularly failing to stop Trump from becoming President, and a legit investigation into potential crimes.
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TopicWhy is nobody talking about the FBI actively colluding to fight Donald Trump?
legendary_zell
01/23/18 11:51:35 AM
#29
Bloodychess posted...
legendary_zell posted...
And even if there was some secret cabal, they completely failed


Worked on Bernie though.

But hey, if you cheat and still don't win, the cheating doesn't count, amirite?


Again, gotta prove there was cheating. You're bringing up a completely different incident of alleged cheating that isn't relevant to this situation because it's a completely different context and different types of alleged actions are involved as well.
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TopicWhy is nobody talking about the FBI actively colluding to fight Donald Trump?
legendary_zell
01/23/18 11:46:42 AM
#22
Nomadic View posted...
Antifar posted...
I mean, two FBI agents texting critical things about Trump doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

s0nicfan posted...
FBI members, looking to stop Trump from winning the presidency "by any means necessary" were literally keeping 'insurance policy' documents to leak to the press should they decide he needs to be stopped

Seems to me that if this were true, they would have done so.


You dont think that is a big deal? Someone has a clear bias and an agenda against a person, and that someone is investigating you, and that someone admitted to achieving his goal by any means necessary. You dont think thats a big deal?


First you need to show an actual attempt was made. You'd need to show they did anything more than talk. You'd need to show it had any sort of affect on the real world. Lots of people are biased in this world, do you really think investigators are typically neutral? The difference is that these people were especially careless and text messaging exists now.

You'd also need to show they had any influence on biasing the investigation previously since they are no longer working on the investigation. Their mere internal bias and presence on the team isn't enough to actually cause things to operate differently than they would have with an objectively neutral team.

Once you prove all of these things, then you might have a case for a somethingburger (which is just a burger I guess).
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TopicWhy is nobody talking about the FBI actively colluding to fight Donald Trump?
legendary_zell
01/23/18 11:31:11 AM
#4
What was actually done to prevent him from being president though? And even if there was some secret cabal, they completely failed. This is by definition a nothingburger.
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Topic39 year old Father is being deported after living in United States for 30 years.
legendary_zell
01/17/18 10:31:20 PM
#189
This is a great topic to see who substitutes archaic and discriminatory laws for their moral compass or even their basic humanity.
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Topic39 year old Father is being deported after living in United States for 30 years.
legendary_zell
01/17/18 10:29:35 PM
#187
BeantownHero posted...
Many in this country have more sympathy for old Nazis facing justice than they do for lifelong immigrants being deported smfh


Giant_Aspirin posted...
based on what i read in the first page, i certainly hope @HypnoCoosh doesn't break a single law, under any circumstances, for any reason, ever. because, after all, he dearly believes in a strict following of the law, to the letter, with absolutely zero exceptions. under no circumstances should any law, regardless of intent or application to the current situation, ever be broken.

i bet he literally never speeds, never jaywalks and most certainly doesn't spit on the sidewalk. and, depending on the state he's in, he may not even engage in sodomy, which includes oral sex in some cases.


I hope he's never so much as streamed an episode of Sailor Moon from a streaming site.
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Topic39 year old Father is being deported after living in United States for 30 years.
legendary_zell
01/17/18 10:17:31 PM
#181
1500 posted...
legendary_zell posted...
As an immigrant who hasn't been to my home country in over 20 years, my thoughts on the people defending this would earn me my second ever moderation. The immigration system in America is fucked. My aunt works for the immigration agency in Nigeria and it took her several years just to get a VISA to visit us for a summer. It takes years to do anything under this system and when you are here without some random papers, there is a constant threat that you will be separated from your family and sent to a country you have no relationship with.

Just because something is a law doesn't mean it makes sense, makes people safer, or is just. Violating that law is certainly no basis to fucking cheer on draconian consequences.

Someone's homeland is not determined by where they were born. It's about where they are a citizen in all meaningful senses. This guy is an American in every meaningful way, he was simply not lucky enough to have that immense privilege handed to him at birth like most of the people cheering this did. This guy did absolutely nothing wrong and none of you would have done anything different in his situation. If a law is punishing good people and bad people alike for purely formalistic reasons, then it's a garbage law that should be attacked, not defended.

It's disgusting to see people who have never had to interact with the beast that is the immigration system make glib statements about it. It's disgusting that so many of you lack empathy to the point that you would defend this or even joke about it.


except he broke the law by entering the united states illegally. If he wanted citizenship, he should've just applied for a green card like every body else.

I was born in the philippines and emigrated to the united states when i was 4 years old. My parents had to wait 5-6 years to get their visa to come here. After 10 years of staying here, i became a naturalized citizen. it's unfair for a former immigrant such as myself who had to wait a long time to get his visa whereas there are people entering the country illegally. It's a slap in the face from someone who had to wait to get their visa.


He didn't do anything other than stay in his country. He was brought here as a minor and this place is home to him. Are you suggesting that he should have voluntarily left to go to a country he had no relationship with? I'm an immigrant and I had to wait a while to be legalized too, nothing about that experience leads me to believe that makes sense. This guy being kicked out is a slap in the face for justice and fairness. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience or tell you that you don't have the right to feel angry with people who voluntarily jump the line while you had to wait. But this guy didn't do that.

Moreover, you keep repeating that it's the law that this guy had to be deported like that's the be all end all. The law itself is corrupt as it has been throughout American history. A rule being on the books does not mean its worth the paper it's printed on. It can still be unjust and worthy of being disregarded in certain circumstances. Using the law as a reason why you MUST take certain unjust actions is a dark dark pathway as has been proven over and over.
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Topic39 year old Father is being deported after living in United States for 30 years.
legendary_zell
01/17/18 9:49:44 PM
#172
As an immigrant who hasn't been to my home country in over 20 years, my thoughts on the people defending this would earn me my second ever moderation. The immigration system in America is fucked. My aunt works for the immigration agency in Nigeria and it took her several years just to get a VISA to visit us for a summer. It takes years to do anything under this system and when you are here without some random papers, there is a constant threat that you will be separated from your family and sent to a country you have no relationship with.

Just because something is a law doesn't mean it makes sense, makes people safer, or is just. Violating that law is certainly no basis to fucking cheer on draconian consequences.

Someone's homeland is not determined by where they were born. It's about where they are a citizen in all meaningful senses. This guy is an American in every meaningful way, he was simply not lucky enough to have that immense privilege handed to him at birth like most of the people cheering this did. This guy did absolutely nothing wrong and none of you would have done anything different in his situation. If a law is punishing good people and bad people alike for purely formalistic reasons, then it's a garbage law that should be attacked, not defended.

It's disgusting to see people who have never had to interact with the beast that is the immigration system make glib statements about it. It's disgusting that so many of you lack empathy to the point that you would defend this or even joke about it.
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Topicblack people should not
legendary_zell
01/17/18 3:59:05 PM
#169
The legacy of racism is keeping the legacy of racism alive, not black people using the n-word to refer to each other. That's what makes the arguments in this topic so ridiculous. If you feel a black cultural practice makes black people ignorant, regardless of context, that's a personal hangup that you have as an individual. I'm not sure why black people should care about your preconceptions on this particular subject. You could choose to stop caring about something that doesn't affect you. You could choose to understand the history of the word. You could choose to update your definition of equality to something more meaningful. You should do all of those things before attempting to telling groups of people what they are thinking, what to think, or what to say.
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Topicblack people should not
legendary_zell
01/17/18 2:32:58 PM
#91
Tmk posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
So some of us try and reclaim it, turn it into a tacit understanding of solidarity in shared trauma and a reminder not to forget where you come from.

You know that's not really what it is though right? It's just something that when a black person says it, they come across as basically the black equivalent of a redneck, they sound dumb and like they're wallowing in ignorance, incessantly blurting out a word that has been perverted into popular culture because rappers are too lazy to use better words.

Like, at best, the n word, said by a black person, is held in about the same esteem as a white person saying "git'r done" or "yeehaw"

When a black person in an online game says it every third word in a rambly sentence, it's not some sophisticated nuanced recognition of complex shared social woes. It's a dumb person saying a slur that was used to dehumanise his own race because it's popular, other people around him say it, he hasn't put much thought into it, etc.


This post is terrible in so many ways. Jesus Christ. I feel like you're going further and further off the deep end.
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