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Only if they're modernizing and including the QoL improvements of later games (particularly the Dark Assembly). I don't care about HD sprites.
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Zacek posted...

It's not the same girl.

Do you mean that in a spiritual sense? Because she totally has the same tattoo on her right leg in the before and after. >_>
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solid_kush posted...

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solid_kush posted...

Then 1 is actually 3 and 2 is actually -4?

Sure, let's go with that.

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Your version is better!
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solid_kush posted...

Then 1 is actually 3 and 2 is actually -4?

Sure, let's go with that.
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I can't help but admire the coarse immodesty of it.
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Outside of The Walking Dead, I don't even watch TV anymore. And I binge watch TWD, I don't tune in week to week.
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FrozenBananas posted...

Final Fantasy X-2. Better than X in my opinion

Them's fightin' words. I know because I've said the exact same thing.
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-I always thought Roseanne was the weakest part of Roseanne, so I approve of this.

-I don't see why the remaining cast should show any solidarity with a person who jeopardized their jobs by bringing about this risky compromise.
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You're just projecting sinister motivations because you view it, in your own words, as less legitimate.
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Revelation34 posted...

Well that's like the SJWs and trying to get these kind of games banned even though they don't play them.

Nah, the SJWs are more like Frank Langella's Skeletor.


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I imagine the prevailing view will be some amount of hereditary talent and aptitude, that still requires training and dedication.
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adjl posted...

That sort of sex appeal is just blatantly tacked on as eye candy.

You paint a picture of artists wringing their hands and proclaiming in the voice of 1980s Shredder, "Ha Ha! Yes! These designs are sure to drive moist shekels from the sweaty pockets of desperate nerds!" when all they wanted was to draw a character with a shorter skirt than maybe you personally think is appropriate.
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I_Abibde posted...

The discussion here is going to unexpected places. Interesting.

I feel like the methods of the groups in the topic titles need to change. Instead of trying repeatedly to change or destroy things they dislike, why not create things they do like (and leave everything else alone, since there is room enough in the entertainment world for all of it)? This always boggles my mind. ... Then again, I suppose it takes less energy to complain endlessly than it does to actually "be the change you want to see in the world".

The issue is with the broad trends, not individual products, and that's impossible for a single group to change on their own. That takes cooperation from a large body of creators who need to be convinced that their message is the correct one. We're talking about social and political activists, not necessarily artists and programmers, so it isn't entirely reasonable to expect them to have the time and/or skills to do so.

And just as they aren't necessarily artists and programmers, they aren't necessarily consumer advocates trying to change the medium for those who want certain options as consumers; they're complaining to change a social climate they feel is reinforced culturally (and video games are part of culture). I think this is one of the biggest points of confusion as gamers are generally accustomed to seeing complaints as an attempt to change the supply of something toward a particular consumer preference. That is not what's going on here, at least not primarily (I don't want to give the impression that there's no consumer demand). So it doesn't make sense to crowed fund development of a game, because that doesn't achieve the real world goals which, remember, involves getting a large enough body of developers to see things a certain way.
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adjl posted...

The line is going to be drawn in different places by different people. I'll give you that. Conceptually, though, there will always come a point where fanservice crosses the line from being an exciting bit of unexpected sexiness to being watered-down porn, regardless of where a given person draws that line. Seeing a bit of cleavage on a prostitute on a street corner is very different from seeing a bit of cleavage when a coworker bends to pick something up, simply because of how much more unexpected and opportunistic the latter is. The former? If you want to see it, you can see it any time you want, because it's predictable and not at all hard to get. Just like porn.

I have my boundaries for sure. In practice, discussing this in terms of boundaries doesn't really make sense. It's more like different positions on a Cartesian plane with porn in one corner and DoA in another. Maybe if you take a rather compressed or even one dimensional view of it, it could look like they inhabit the same space, but they don't.
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Mead posted...

Some women are totally in to dominating men though

Thats pretty common knowledge

Here's the thing though, and this is where it can get really counter-intuitive. My GF is a domme, and she's done scenes involving financial domination, where she demands a certain sum of money from a (consenting) sub or else. These are very tricky situations because if she ever relies on this as a source of income then the power dynamic shifts at its most basic level. She at all times has to have the ability to say "no" without risking an eviction, or the question of who has leverage over who gets complicated.

And so going back to the perspective of the female performer, she's meat. She's replaceable. She may appear to be in charge on the camera, but if she doesn't do what sells (in other words what the male audience or male client demands) she's out of a job. So we're back to square one, the standard porn dynamic. The fact that she's holding the whip is irrelevant.
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Revelation34 posted...

Kungfu Kenobi posted...

The women in these videos primarily exist to gratify men,

Citation needed.

Get a load of this guy. He doesn't think the guys in those videos are way more interested in getting spanked than she is in spanking them.
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shadowsword87 posted...

That means they should look up other types of porn then!
There are plenty of stuff where women demean men.

For starters, maybe no one should demean anyone. But looking deeper porn with women dominating men is still reinforcing a male-centric view. The women in these videos primarily exist to gratify men, just in a superficially different way.
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shadowsword87 posted...

Weirdly, I don't think any "feminazi" or "SJW" I've ever talked to was against porn.

There's basically two schools of thought, and they both have a point. One school says that society's attitudes toward sexuality are oppressive, particularly to women, and that it should be up to the individual how they express themselves sexually within a framework of consent.

Another school of thought views certain depictions of femininity as both coming from, and reinforcing oppressive ideas about women, and their place in society. A lot of porn is, after all, about women who exist to serve men, and is made that way by men, for the gratification primarily of men. This is of great concern to feminists from this school of thought.
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adjl posted...

I get what you mean about the distinction between the titillation of catching a bit of cleavage and actually watching porn

You might understand intellectually that some nebulous distinction exists but the rest of this post doesn't give me the sense that you've really gotten your head around it.

adjl posted...

I don't find it particularly titillating to see the cleavage of a character who's very transparently been designed to show a lot of cleavage. There's no careful opportunism there, it's just showing the player some boobs, which puts it into a weird middle ground where it's not as good as porn is if I just want to be shown some boobs, and it's just cringy if I don't want to be shown some boobs.

Okay.... This is what I'm saying above. That addresses why you might think to tell someone to "just use actual porn". What you're not addressing is how that sounds to someone who doesn't see it in those terms to begin with.
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knivesX2004 posted...

Just get it for PC and mod it if you're really that pathetic and desperate for porn.

For that matter, just use actual porn if you're desperate for porn. Gratuitous sexual content in games just makes them embarrassing to play.

For you maybe. I enjoy being titillated while playing a game and am not embarrassed by it at all. Furthermore being titillated while playing a game isn't the same thing as porn, and therefore telling someone to just look at actual porn isn't... at all a sound argument in the slightest. In fact, the existence of such media as DoA on devices where porn is easier to access should be such a huge red flag that there's more/something else going on.

There's some subtlety and contextuality to it all; that there's a huge difference between seeing Kasumi's bare tits presented in some overtly sexual context* and the suggestive thrill of seeing a bit of her panties at certain angles, and generally when engaged in something fundamentally unrelated to some voyeuristic pursuit of seeing her panties. That's the thing. I guess you could say it's about establishing the right conditions to see something you (for lack of a better word) "shouldn't". That's really different from porn.

*(which I'll define as covering everything we'd both call overtly sexual, and nothing that at least one of us wouldn't)
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Zeus posted...

You know that they choose to take roles, right?

Oh for fuck sake, Zeus.
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^ And related to #4 would be an inability to see the worth of others. It's easy for number #4 to lead to a breakdown in the ability to see the worth of anyone at all, not just the self.
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Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
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I rolled Weather Control. Not my favorite, but if we're talking some of the more outrageous depictions of Storm, then I am ok with this.
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>MFW this was already on my wishlist.
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I don't remember anything that hasn't come back in pog form.
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mrduckbear posted...

one of my youtube videos has gone VIRAL and they are offering to pay me if they can link it to their page LOL...of course i had to break the ice to tell them that i am not the originator of that video and they'll have to credit it to dailymail...but even i don't know if dailymail owns that video either...

That's actually kind of cool.
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I used to be friends with literal swastika wearing neo-nazis.
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fidormula posted...

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xjayguyx posted...

There is better Zelda clones.

Are.

Be.

*am
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Okay, compromise: bring back the show, but kill off the Roseanne character and go on without her.
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Firewood18 posted...

A good woman gives good .. all the time, a succubus gives you great .. once or twice and that's it.

And then you're dead. Which for some of you might mean she's doing you two favors.
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wolfy42 posted...

Population control should be our primary goal at this point

Not in any country that's having this discussion. Developed nations are below replacement levels.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Emily Lindin raped me.

#MoiAussi
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LinkPizza posted...

And I know grouping for most things is easy. And an easy way to keep track of things. And I get that. But why for groups of people who were born up to 20 years apart. Or people with the same occupation...

It doesn't matter. The tendency is automatic. You've just seized on some groupings that don't make sense to you personally, but maybe that's just a glitch in an otherwise tremendously useful process, or maybe those groupings are useful in ways you just don't fully grasp.
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LeetCheet posted...

I thought he had Liver cancer?

Cancer is funny that way, it can start in one part of the body, and kill you in another.
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Much like my stance on Capital Punishment I'm for it in theory, but in practice there's no one I trust enough to implement it properly.
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Judgmenl posted...

Both of them are Self-Help professionals but at least the Psychic is going to be less esoteric than JP.

I like JBP, but jeez I gotta agree with this. Those Jungian types are more than a little 'out there' and he's very very into Carl Jung.

Blightzkrieg posted...

[image snipped]

I see there's a handy guide for brainlets who want to be JBP contrarians.
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DeltaBladeX posted...

I'm trying to find the bit from the Evolution cartoon where he was playing with the Image Inducer, but no luck, so I'll just post this.
https://imgur.com/6kZ1lBp

http://x-menevolution.wikia.com/wiki/File:Adrift_-_39_kurt.png
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Action: Dubbed

Comedy/Drama: Subbed, unless the dub is very good. Also, I wish they'd do more dubs that take the piss like Shin Chan and Ghost Stories.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

I think abortion should be legal up to the 137th trimester.

That's a little extreme. 21 months from conception or "momma! dadda! blurrrbbbbrrurrb!" whichever comes sooner, is as far as I'm willing to push it.

VeeVees posted...

abortions should be mandatory

Also this.
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Revelation34 posted...

Kungfu Kenobi posted...

So it was NCSOE - an unholy alliance of SJWs and Conservatives that had been mass flagging games on Steam.

https://endsexualexploitation.org/articles/victory-steam-remove-sexually-explicit-violent-videogames-platform/

So they admitted to it? That should mean Steam should ignore the reports.

That could be how it's playing out. The HunniePop devs tweeted saying Valve is investigating the issue further, and to hold tight.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

People are idiots.

Yeah, they think we'll believe they believe this will help stop rape.
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You'd better be ed reinventing yourself, because you're reinventing the genre. Ed officially on suicide watch until details emerge.
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So it was NCSOE - an unholy alliance of SJWs and Conservatives that had been mass flagging games on Steam.

https://endsexualexploitation.org/articles/victory-steam-remove-sexually-explicit-violent-videogames-platform/
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_AdjI_ posted...

I feel like that's too short a monitoring period. Of course people are going to aggressively overuse it once it's added. Waiting a week or so to let the novelty wear off would probably have been more sensible.

Exactly, this is just polls all over again. And waiting for the novelty to wear off also means giving some time to adjust for people spamming feedback with, "I hate this change and want you to die" .
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

No, soldiers have to be stable, so if you let them leave at the slightest signs of danger, you'll never have troops when you need them.

Sorry boss, hate to leave on such short notice but getting shot at just isn't working out for me.

Yeah, no.
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Zikten posted...

someone will make a "steam for porn" service. and all those games will go there

Tougher than you might think. Banks, Credit Card companies, and Paypal all prefer not to work directly with companies that handle too much adult material. The rest charge obscene overhead. This was an issue for Patreon, which is why I was wondering if Valve also got into hot water over the amount of lewdity the let slip onto the platform.
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I wonder if Valve got in trouble with the Credit Card companies and Paypal the way Patreon did.
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OhhhJa posted...

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jramirez23 posted...

Ive heard this from survey results of dating sites. But I dont think you can generalize this finding to all women since not men or women have presence on dating sites.

In other words, its just alt-right/MGTOW propaganda.

Why are you lumping MGTOW with something insane like the Alt right?

As if some incel group like MGTOW isn't insane... lmao

MGTOW and Incels are completely different. Incels want something they can't have, and MGTOWs know better.
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