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TheWorstPoster posted...

Look at ant colonies!

Okay, that's an example we can work with.
- Ants only produce 2 things, tunnels and more ants.
- Ants have to go outside their colonies for resources because they don't develop a means of cultivating those resources themselves.
- A resource gathered by ants is only worth its nutritional value. It does not appreciate because the ants never modify it in a way that increases it's benefit to the colony.
- Ants have no regard for the lives of other ants. The queen and colony are all important while an individual worker ant has no value other than the labor they are able to perform.

Is that a society you would want to live in?
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Zikten posted...

the news is OBSESSED with this

It must be fake then.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7116-do-you-subscribe-to-either-premium-online-console-service

I own the consoles but I don't put them online.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

6 hours over 7 days pls.

51 minutes a day?
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xyphilia posted...

a show about batman villains in school

But most Batman villains lived a normal life into adulthood. That would be an incredibly boring show.
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*has never made ramen*
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Far-Queue posted...

Prejudice and/or antagonism can be racially motivated. Insults and threats like those in this story are 100% racist.

I was actually referring to the statement "anyone who doesn't realize she's racist is racist", not to the article.
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Zangulus posted...

You may be content living in a bubble of 24 hours, but the world doesnt. Symbols can be inherently offensive due to historical reasons.

Very well, what are the reasons for an outfit to be offensive.
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JTekashiro posted...

Do you understand how symbols work? An outfit can most definitely be considered offensive.

Why, yes, I do understand how symbols work. In fact the letters we're using to communicate now are symbols. As are numbers. Do you think any letters or numbers are offensive? I'm going to conclude "no" on the assumption that I'm communicating with a rational person.

Symbols themselves are not offensive. It's how a symbol is used or how others are lead to perceive it that makes something offensive. In this case it does not appear that the outfit was being used in an offensive manner and thus not leading anyone to perceive it as offensive.

Anyone taking offense at the outfit are doing so of their own volition.
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RoboXgp89 posted...

The outfit is very offensive, where did he get it tailored?

An outfit cannot be offensive.
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Far-Queue posted...

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

There would have to be some sort of discrimination involved to be racism.

Nope.

You gotta be joking.
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Rooster_Sucker posted...

anyone who doesn't realize she's racist is racist.

I don't think that's actual racism. There would have to be some sort of discrimination involved to be racism.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Using the N word is enough to hit the bar for racist.

I thought black people took the N word back so that it no longer means anything racist. Now it just means any person they are not indifferent to, either positive or negative. I'm not really sure how people are using it these days.
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Full Throttle posted...

Do you think this kid was purposely trying to piss people off?

Looks like he was being pretty cool with it.
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Clearly he meant he wishes he was there to see the other guy make an idiot of himself.
And news anchors are surprised that they aren't viewed as credible any more.
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Full Throttle posted...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/17/00/4D50ECDF00000578-0-image-a-20_1529191778503.jpg

Can clearly see from the upturned corner that it's a beach towel with a flag design and not a flag intended for flying.
Regardless, I think people take symbolic objects too seriously.
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Yes, he's had a few missteps like blaming video games for gun violence but he's been doing a great job of standing up to those that are harming the country.
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Where was the mother (and/or father) at the time? Why isn't the father mentioned in the interview either? They just say family, not parents.
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I wonder how this would effect the number of seats each party holds in congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Current_composition_and_election_results
According to this California has 2 seats going to the democrats. Someone must have thought that by splitting California it would mean more democrat representatives.

http://www.ppic.org/publication/californias-political-geography/
However looking at this it appears liberal ideology is concentrated along the coast, especial in the north. While conservatism is much stronger throughout.

Conclusion:
This change might result in pushing the democratic party to become more moderate, if not outright free the new states to lean republican.
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Zeus posted...

The issue wasn't using free time, it was having free time to use.

This didn't result from just having free time. It resulted from making a false report during their free time. How the free time was used is key here and the judge is dangerously close to blaming video games in this ruling.

Zeus posted...

The only problem is you don't necessarily know what their local economy is like or what they've even done to apply for jobs.

They can control whether they play online video games. They can control to an extent whether they have contact with witnesses. They can't control whether another person hires them. Does this mean an employer who rejects their resume can be found in contempt of court for not giving them a job?
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Zeus posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Both teens were not arrested but were issued a summoning to appear in court as they remain free on 10,000 bond each and ordered to find a JOB and to NOT play online video games or have contact with witnesses

tbh, crazy shit happens when people have too much free time on their hands.

Maybe playing video games would help use up that free time.

Zeus posted...

Unemployment is under 4%. It'd be difficult to get a better economy.

Unfortunately that's not evenly distributed. It's still quite terrible where I live.
Is the judge also going to order a better local economy?
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Full Throttle posted...

charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice, wire fraud and other counts!!

I was looking for the article to explain these charges. I'm disappointed.

Full Throttle posted...

and ordered to find a JOB

Is the judge also going to order a better economy?

Full Throttle posted...

Both will live with their parents pending trial as they will also not be able to use firearms

How does not being able to use firearms result in them living with their parents?
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Lil69Leo posted...

They used to do this before AC3. Then people got sick of the game and they slowed down production to 1 a year or 2

Even that sounds like too many.
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Far-Queue posted...

Wait, Odyssey is out already?

October. Pre-orders are sold out.

They're already selling another Assassin's Creed game?
Didn't they just make one?
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I think we need more accessibility to information on the issues and what the candidates goals are. And by information I don't mean the smear campaigns that pop up in advertising around election time. All this law is going to do is create more voters that are uninformed.
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

https://imgur.com/dEqDTCO

Kimbos_Egg posted...

https://imgur.com/Smt2xyB

Don't tell me what I can't do.


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Flappers posted...

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Parents have been divorced for over 30 years.
My mother might be dead for all I know. No one in my family has seen her in 12 years.
My father isn't going to attract a partner with the liver condition he's developed.
I don't think this is something I have to worry about.

It's all hypothetical, my man.

Yes, hypothetically you are forced to either watch or join in. Assuming it occurs. But it's not stated that it's forced to occur. It's likely you will live longer than your parents. Are they going to un-cremate themselves in order to make you keep watching them?
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Which one is merida?
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I don't know what I'm looking at. Needs context.
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Does it have single-player?
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Parents have been divorced for over 30 years.
My mother might be dead for all I know. No one in my family has seen her in 12 years.
My father isn't going to attract a partner with the liver condition he's developed.
I don't think this is something I have to worry about.
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6.11.08, a decade ago?
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Zeus posted...

Well, that would be a little hard, considering that the age cutoff is 25.

That's the next thing they'll have to change.
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TheWorstPoster posted...

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

TheWorstPoster posted...

That's not a problem of accent, that's a problem of dialect. Even with the subtitles I still have no idea what they're saying.

Imagine if GTA VI made you play as Badman, with no subtitles whatsoever.

No one knows what it's like
To be the bad man
To be the sad man
Behind blue eyes
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TheWorstPoster posted...

That's not a problem of accent, that's a problem of dialect. Even with the subtitles I still have no idea what they're saying.
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You mean like this?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/71/40/41714071e6941c7303677e52412ff97c.jpg
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Lack of exposure? If you've never heard someone talk that way it can difficult to interpret.
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Haven't seen it. Don't plan to.
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adjl posted...

I like how the alt right thinks their rights are being violated when they're asked to be polite in a manner that isn't enforced legally.

It's not so different from what Canada has passed into law. Is it any surprise that it would worry people to see their institutions going down the same path?
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adjl posted...

You're one of those people that thinks freedom of speech means freedom from consequence, aren't you.

No.

adjl posted...

And as the owner of the name, they have full rights to not answer to somebody who refuses to get their name right.

To address this the teacher had been calling students by their last name. A name that was not in dispute by anyone.

adjl posted...

When the alternative is making decisions on academic matters without conducting research?

That's clearly not what I was advocating and I think you're being willfully disingenuous here.

adjl posted...

Not anymore they don't.

Regardless of if we don't put it to use or find a technological work around to reach the same result the reason for something to exist doesn't change. The written language and texting doesn't remove the purpose for the ability to speak. Someone could choose to not have children. The reason they have the ability to do so will remain.

adjl posted...

who cares about the impact it has on procreational ability?

Well I don't. I was responding to your comment about how genders are defined.

adjl posted...

You seem to be having considerable difficulty understanding the difference between "sex" and "gender" as they are used in the modern vernacular. Sex refers to the biological aspects of sexual dimorphism, gender to the psychological and social aspects.

That's not the the modern vernacular. You're referring to specialized terminology that has been used in an Orwellian manner. Controlling how people think by controlling the language they use. The average person wouldn't associate sex with anatomical distinctions. They would associate it with an action that results in procreation.
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adjl posted...

Clearly, the answer is for everyone to stop being assholes about it, so that sheltering them from assholes while in school ends up being reflective of the real world.

C V
It's claiming the authority to tell one person what they can or can't say to another person.
Plus, I don't think it's being an asshole to say that approximating the appearance of a man or a woman doesn't actually make you one if you weren't already.

adjl posted...

They are literally the only person who has that authority.

C V
Yes, it's their name. They have ownership of it. But it's the other person's speech. Someone else has ownership of addressing them.
Directing speech at a person doesn't transfer ownership of the speech.

adjl posted...

Conveniently, there's a whole field of medicine dedicated to figuring that out. Maybe people should defer to what that field says instead of deciding they know better?

That's surrendering a lot of personal responsibility to academics. Academics who get research money based on how useful their findings will be to the current political climate and other interest groups. Academics who risk their careers if someone on social media thinks their findings are racist, sexist, or "something"phobic. Academics who themselves may subscribe to certain ideologies. It would be wise to consider their findings but not to put total faith in them.

adjl posted...

Depends how you define each of those latter states.

I define them in biological terms. Gender difference exist to facilitate procreation. Each gender has a carrier agent that is used to pass on their genes to the next generation and each type of carrier agent is specific to that gender.

However current identity politics puts forth that there are no biological gender difference. Gender is social construct that can be defined any way that is convenient for the moment.
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Golden Road posted...

Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, but no one asked for your opinion!

Yes, telling someone the truth isn't always a sign of respect. The truth could be that someone has no respect for you and says as much. I still hold that it's more respectful that persisting with a lie. In this specific case from the article I don't think the teacher had a lack of personal respect for the student. Someone did ask his opinion by asking for his compliance. He didn't want his silence to be taken as consent or encouragement for something that is against his principles.

LinkPizza posted...

Also, to call them by their preferred name would actually be the way to show them respect.

Usually calling a boy by a typical girl's name is used as an insult. I imagine girls would find the reverse equally mocking. If someone actually requests that you do this how much of the action is going to come from a place of respect to do so?
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LinkPizza posted...

Because some people are decent human beings...

This bring our discussion back to points I made earlier. Is it decent to lie to someone? As adjl posted the trans person may be going through a trial period to see if transitioning is really the solution to their problem. Is it decent to give them encouragement in regard to a procedure that reinforces a lie?

LGBTQ community advocates say it's a sign of respect and isn't about religion or politics. Putting gender identity aside, putting preferred names aside, and putting identity politics in general aside, a sign of respect is to tell them the truth.
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LinkPizza posted...

Most normal people would say the name holder. Its there name.

Yes, it's their name. They have ownership of it. But it's the other person's speech. Someone else has ownership of addressing them.
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It depends on the strength of the argument the person is presented. If I think a person is wrong but facing weak arguments I would respect them more for catching those flaws but continuing to be wrong than if they fail to catch the flaws.
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http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/vader.jpg
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LinkPizza posted...

But denying them the right that they have to change can also be harmful. You say that they feel like they don't belong. But by not calling them the name they want to be called can also give that this feeling. Or treating them like they want to be treated. It can feel like you're treating them different. Sometimes, it doesn't matter if you are of aren't because that's how they'll feel...

I don't want to quote item by item this once. Feel free to apply my comments where relevant.
Yes, they have the right to undergo elective cosmetic procedures. I'm not saying you take that away from them. They don't have the right to compel another person's speech nor to compel another person's behavior. No one has the authority to tell someone what name to call them or how to treat them if that other person isn't inclined to do so. Being trans doesn't give someone special rights above what anyone else has. One person has the civic right to request what they are called or how they are treated. The civic rights of that person ends at another persons civic right to refuse that request.

argonautweakend posted...

lets act like with trans people you HAVE to call them by their birth name.

This doesn't address the core issue. Whether it's a teacher ordered to address the student by their preferred name, or an advocated ordered to address a trans person by their birth name. It's the same thing. It's claiming the authority to tell one person what they can or can't say to another person.

adjl posted...

see if transitioning is actually going to be beneficial for them before doing anything irreversible.

This is an excellent point. In my understanding a big factor in this is how they participate in society and how other people react to them. But not everyone is going to be accepting of the transition. By forcing others to treat these people a certain way the experience from such a trial period won't be an authentic one and could give them a false impression of what life would be like after doing anything irreversible.

adjl posted...

Trying out different identities is a perfectly normal, healthy part of adolescence, and part of teaching adolescent students is respecting that.

Not all identities are normal or healthy. Killing small animals or watching things burn aren't indicative of identities that are respected by society nor should adolescents be encouraged to try them out. There are some identities that society discourages because they are either harmful to the individual or the rest of society.

adjl posted...

If a kid wants to change their name, who are you to tell them they can't?

Answer: No one.
Who are they to tell anyone which name to addressees them with?

adjl posted...

Oh really? Do elaborate on what is so impossible about transitioning that it means doctors are lying to their patients

If a man says he's a T-Rex does that make him a T-Rex?
If a man widens his mouth, shortens his arms, and has surgery to implant a prosthetic tail does that make him a T-Rex?
If a woman says she's a male, does that make her a male?
If a woman takes hormones that are wrong for her body and has elective cosmetic surgery does that make her a male?
No, the woman is as much a male as she is a T-Rex.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Seven

The Group of Seven or G7 is a group consisting of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

Notice that 4 of them are also members of the EU which is facing problems with socialism. Then there's Canada which is gradually taking the same path with their laws. Considering that over half of the group is anti-capitalist it would be good either for the US to get out or bring in another country that shares our goals.
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Cold_Dreamerz posted...

Like you and everyone else actually care about other people's body disphoria. You don't understand, or like it, so you feel the need to suppress it.

It's not necessary to care, or understand, or like it in order to recognize that the current approach dismisses one delusion by by convincing them of another. They can change the outward appearance of their body to fit a different set of norms but that doesn't change basic biology.

adjl posted...

Except transitioning is typically not done without consulting medical professionals, who make that recommendation only if it's what's most likely to be beneficial for their specific case. In many cases, acceptance is the help they need.

It's not clear in the article if the student was going through procedures, or just going by a preferred name. If the medial professionals have the same mindset as the school in this story then they're of no help to their patients. A counselor who councils ignorance betrays their station. Letting them think gender transitioning is possible in a medical sense is lying to them.
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LinkPizza posted...

How is it harmful, though.

Encouraging their delusion denies them the help they need. They feel like they don't belong. Maybe they think their body is not really theirs. It's not respectful to say they're right. Instead we should tell them it's okay to be different. That being non-typical doesn't make them something else, it just means the stereotypes are wrong. The advocates let them think that the problem is with them when it's really with the image they compare themselves to and the tools they use to analyze it.
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she was going to make "restitutions" for the pain she's caused

She's only making it worse for herself.

sends another tweet out against VALERIE JARRETT

Who's that?

stating she was going to chase the Jewish people to the SEA!!

That didn't work out so well for the guy who tried that in Exodus.
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