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Darmik posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

Darmik posted...

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Darmik posted...

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

There was absolutely no reason to have a woman with a cyborg arm in a WW2 game unless this is Micheal Bays WW2.

The trailer gave an impression like that yeah. All of the characters look over the top and stylized.

Lol the devs literally compared it to Saving Private Ryan before showing the trailer.

I'm sure you're being 100% honest about the context there.

Trevor Noah asked "Is the game stylized like Inglorious Basterds, or is it something more like Saving Private Ryan"

The devs said, it's a serious look like Saving Private Ryan.

I heard "Delivering a World War 2 experience that no one has ever seen before" and "fresh and modern take that is a surprise for players*

I'm not going to bother going through now since it's late, but that exact Q&A happens. I watched the whole thing live.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

I love how the majority of the comments on that trailer are "Omg there's a girl on the cover rrrrreeeeee"

fucking please, Battlefield 1 had a girl AND a black man on the cover and nobody said shit.

Besides, nothing indicated in the trailer was proven to be from multiplayer. The BF1 trailer used a lot of shit from the campaign and they already said this stuff was from the non-canon co-op mode in the reveal.

The teaser trailer we got showed that the HUD would be an even cleaner version of Battlefield 1, so I'm still not worried. That being said, they better release a new trailer at E3 showing "hey guys this is actually just BF1 running a WW2 mod no worries"

The Battlefield 1 cover was a member of the Harlem Hellfighters. An actual WW1 Unit.

Too bad they barely did shit with that and didn't even act like armies were segregated in game.
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It does look awful, I haven't liked a game since 4 though. Shame because I own all the others and enjoy them.

One was trash, and an utter disapointment.
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WafflehouseJK posted...

When he was assembling X-Force and Terry Crews randomly showed up, I was like "Wtf, Terry Crews is in this? Why wasn't he in the trailer?"

And then 5 minutes later...

"Oh..... That's why."

Hilariously Shatterstar and Bedlam both have fight scenes shown in the trailers.
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I don't think this is the argument.

A disabled woman being on the front lines of WW2 seriously is the problem.

Nobody has a problem with Soviet Snipers like Call of Duty did, or women in the Intelligence branches ala Medal of Honor.
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Darmik posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

Darmik posted...

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

There was absolutely no reason to have a woman with a cyborg arm in a WW2 game unless this is Micheal Bays WW2.

The trailer gave an impression like that yeah. All of the characters look over the top and stylized.

Lol the devs literally compared it to Saving Private Ryan before showing the trailer.

I'm sure you're being 100% honest about the context there.

Trevor Noah asked "Is the game stylized like Inglorious Basterds, or is it something more like Saving Private Ryan"

The devs said, it's a serious look like Saving Private Ryan.
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There's clearly a large market for it.
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Darmik posted...

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

There was absolutely no reason to have a woman with a cyborg arm in a WW2 game unless this is Micheal Bays WW2.

The trailer gave an impression like that yeah. All of the characters look over the top and stylized.

Lol the devs literally compared it to Saving Private Ryan before showing the trailer.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Call of Duty WW2 did a straightforward campaign and people bitched about how predictable it was

I welcome this style, even if it is a little avantgarde

Y'all gotta chill with the historical accuracy shit, a realistic Battlefield 1 would've been boring as shit and they realized that

I totally disagree with that.

A historically authentic WW1 game based on 1918 (where most of the movement took place) could be extremely fun, Dice just put in no effort and made a game that can barely be considered a WW1 game, you can't even get past the opening without full automatics everywhere.
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Dash_Harber posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

ScazarMeltex posted...

Well, there were female resistance fighters all over occupied Europe and Russia. So far as actual female soldiers fighting on the front though? No.

The Soviet Union had some specialized female soldiers, like their snipers (best one had 304 kills)

Although they were still extremely rare.

So were 90% of the guns and equipment in BF1 >_>.

I agree, I also don't want them there. Nobody was raising that argument.

I prefer women used like CoD:Finest Hour, a showcase based on some real things during the campaign, not 20% of the people on a multiplayer map.

I find acting like the armies were segregated to be the far more distasteful thing, pushing those aspects under the rug isn't a good thing.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Where did a single person complain about the A7V?

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2016/10/opinion-the-astonishing-historical-inaccuracies-of-battlefield-1.html

Dash_Harber posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

TheMarthKoopa posted...

Infinite 2003 posted...

It's almost like some people don't like historical accuracy taking a backseat to inclusiveness

The developers can do whatever they want

if anyone wants historical accuracy, read a fucking textbook

Game developers can also make Han Solo sing and dance.

Doesn't mean people have to like it, that accuracy will drive people who want it.

The problem isn't complaining about a lack of accuracy, though, it's that they only care about accuracy when it means they can exclude a particular group. It's an obvious excuse since there are plenty of other inaccuracies that went over completely fine like;
- LMGs, SMGs, and experimental weaponry.
- Vehicles that didn't see much combat use.
- Vehicles being manned by a single person instead of the massive teams they required.
- Equipment is available to both sides.
- Battles that lasted hours or days are condensed to roughly half an hour engagements, while massive battlegrounds are condensed to smaller maps.
- Etc.

People complained about the weapons and vehicles all the time, and I still complain about them now.

Time condensing is just for a video game, not many people would want to play a campaign for days at a time.

This is why I'm saying don't act like every person on the other side is going "Man I sure do wish black people and women weren't in this game, because I hate them." People raise those complaints all the time, bring down the strawman you are creating for arguments.
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ScazarMeltex posted...

Well, there were female resistance fighters all over occupied Europe and Russia. So far as actual female soldiers fighting on the front though? No.

The Soviet Union had some specialized female soldiers, like their snipers (best one had 304 kills)

Although they were still extremely rare.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Dragon239 posted...

All those YT comments about SJWs too, jesus. What, cause there's a girl?

The arguments are always ridiculously stupid and based on a cursory knowledge of history. It's like when they complained and whined about how historically inaccurate it was to have black soldiers in Battlefield I, but completely fucking ignored the obvious other inaccuracies like everyone having automatic weaponry, very little artillery, everyone having access to all equipment, and worse of all, the A7V, which normally required a team of 27 and was only produced in 50 units being everyone and capable of running on a 1 man crew. Like, cry more.

People complained about that shit all the time dude, especially the automatic weapons.

Stop plugging your ears and pretending that everyone is a racist. Try listening for once.
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TheMarthKoopa posted...

Infinite 2003 posted...

It's almost like some people don't like historical accuracy taking a backseat to inclusiveness

The developers can do whatever they want

if anyone wants historical accuracy, read a fucking textbook

Game developers can also make Han Solo sing and dance.

Doesn't mean people have to like it, that accuracy will drive people who want it.
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SuperVegito2487 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I don't think this sort of stuff would dissuade me. Angry Star Wars fans have become such a whiny bunch of cliches that I don't take any of their complaints seriously anymore

I think this is where i stand as well

I enjoyed the last jedi
Saw it with my mother (mainly because it wouldnt be any fun watching it alone, and id need a lift to the cinema anyways) she enjoyed it as well

Furthermore i havent met anyone outside of the internet that didnt like it.. talked with 2 other guys that lived at the same area, we all agreed on our favorite scene too.

I've had the opposite experience, literally everyone I know dislikes TLJ from people in their 60's to teenagers.
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DarthAragorn posted...

KarmaMuffin posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

rather not have them in ww2 games

I just don't get it. You're ok with all other kinds of suspensions of disbelief but women in combat is where you draw the line?

Battlefield used to maintain some sense of realism

But women in combat in WW2? Lol no, that just didn't happen

There were some in the Soviet Union, their female snipers are great.

But on the British and such, yeah no.

And seeing a bunch running around is lore breaking.

Doing it like Finest Hour or something did is fine.
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Flight is the superior choice.

Easy to make money with, and useful too.
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What's the deal with this and BF1?

Why set something at a certain point without putting in any effort to make it feel like that time?
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Flags are meaningless symbols and the emotional hold they have on people is akin to a mental disorder.

If flags are a symbol, they by definition hold meaning.
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Loghain posted...

school shootings are as old as the US itself

Older actually.

First school shooting in what became the US was in 1763.
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I wish it was the Buffalo/Bison as the National Animal.
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I'd argue Frank West in OtR. But that's tough.

MvC3 has some cool stuff, especially for characters like MODOK.
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Darmik posted...

In all seriousness after Fallout 4 I'll be relieved if all of the playable races return.

If they do all return it would be neat if moving around as the different races felt more unique. Like the Khajiit can pounce and climb trees. The Orcs feel weighty and heavy. Stuff like that.

What about Fallout 4 makes you think that?

Unspecified_NPC posted...

Don't know how or why, but Maormer would make sense. Imga would also be neat for a new beast race.

They would probably be the easiest to explain.

Rika_Furude posted...

I dont know much about ES races. But maybe some sort of angelic/winged race
Not uggos though

I think a flying race would break some things.
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BlackHorse6969 posted...

the monkey people. imagine being able to jump/lunge and attack people from a distance

The Tang Mo from Akavir?

Would be interesting, some development with Akavir would be neat too.

Darmik posted...

Mudcrab

We have seen them able to speak, so it might not be impossible.
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The series has a number of non playable races currently, that could become playable with some justification.

Personally I'd like to see the Sload playable, but they would have to create a decent enough lore reason to force them into it.

Skyrim wrote a way for the Snow Elves/Falmer to return in small numbers withtions of hideouts all around Tamriel, although I do think there may be too many mer at that point.

Imga would be fun if Valenwood was actually confirmed, their culture seems goofy.
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Zikten posted...

SGT_Conti posted...

The only thing I remember is Spidey threatening to send web down Kingpin's throat after thrashing him in a fight.

are you talking about One More Day, in the comics?

It's Back in Black.
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Blue_Inigo posted...

The story is already confusing lol. The mobius agents are real but are the normal people actually real? Game hasnt said so yet

It's a VR town basically.

I enjoyed the game, although I did prefer the first one oddly, the respawning and open world made everything take way longer.
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Enjoyed the demo, I'm considering it. Might be fun to run through with friends no matter if it's good or bad.
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It takes place in the National Constitution Center too.

It's appropriate, you can talk about discrimination among nearly everything, it's not like Rome or the Renaissance were free of discrimination.
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Naysaspace posted...

Leie and han are though

According to some you have to have Han actively say "I don't like cocks" for him to be straight.
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Voted MJ and Peter.

Honestly, spite does partially motivate that decision.
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prince_leo posted...

or the yuuzhan vong stuff
like, I get being annoyed about the First Order and the Resistance. it's a little meh, especially how the clones and the droids were so different

but the yuuzhan vong would be so bad unless they changed everything but the name

I truly think the problem was how long it went on it was downright awful to slog through.

Personally the idea of an intergalactic force that villains had sensed and tried to bolster against isn't a bad one. Especially as it brings up how the deescalation of their military led to problems in a decently natural way. Forcing the Republic to turn to other things for chance at victory and uniting is interesting, and if compressed into a well written arc, it could be done well.
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electricbugs2 posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

the Expanded Universe?

This is part of why people hate the new movies though.

They all expected Luke to be the Star Wars version of Goku like he was in the novels.

Except NJO Luke was supposed to be in his 30's, so that isn't possible. Still hasn't stopped people from whining.

Luke Skywalker was not Goku, he was a natural evolution of the character who still made mistakes.

Not "Jake".

A character being a different age doesn't change everything about them, we could have picked up with a logical progression of an older Luke, and brought something new.

Maybe Luke casts out politics, seeing as they are what led to the downfall of the Jedi, and convincing Luke is instead about convincing him that the force shouldn't be separated from all life, as it's a natural part of the universe. Still having mentored his own generation of new force recruits, instead of pushing it back for Rey to do instead.
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ASithLord7 posted...

It's almost like canon is more than just the movies.

Get with the picture or more on because you obviously don't fucking like Star Wars anymore.

"Something is an asspull"

"RRRRREEEE GET OUT EVERYTHING IS PERFECT"

I think Goten and Trunks unlocking Super Saiyan is an asspull (even though there is an explanation) doesn't stop me from watching Z and liking it.

You can dislike part of something without disliking the whole, for instance I think you are an uptight nuisance who has never been a positive person on this board, I still enjoy coming to this board and reading the stupid posts though.

wackyteen posted...

prince_leo posted...

I just don't get other star wars fans

They want generic non confrontational shit that plays directly into their preconceived notions

Really?

The people who want Rebels vs Empire V2 are the people who want wildly different stuff, and not the fans of the Expanded Universe?
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prince_leo posted...

the two big spoiler moments Darth Maul and Solo not being his real last name are like the pettiest shit to get annoyed about
I just don't get other star wars fans

Solo not being his name is just a "why?" Though, it's just stupid as it was never implied to be anything other than his name. It's like seeing a Marvel prequel where they reveal "Parker" comes from Peter's great grandpa parking cars.

And Darth Maul is an asspull, it was an asspull in TCW and Rebels and that still hasn't changed, and it's more of an asspull for the films where no context is given.

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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

The_Ivory_Man posted...

wackyteen posted...

ledbowman posted...

"Will satisfy if you leave your expectations of a good movie at the door" lol sad

I think what they're getting at is if you go in expecting A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back or to relive your childhood then you're in for a bad time.

Solo has the most asspull prequel character appearance though.

What is it? Spoil it for me please.

Darth Maul is revealed to be in charge of the crime ring
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wackyteen posted...

ledbowman posted...

"Will satisfy if you leave your expectations of a good movie at the door" lol sad

I think what they're getting at is if you go in expecting A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back or to relive your childhood then you're in for a bad time.

Solo has the most asspull prequel character appearance though.
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I could definitely flip this one then.


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How large is the car?
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What's the point of a reboot here?

If you want to change a bunch, and not have it be a follow up, just Mae a new series.
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DevsBro posted...

Well that ruled.

I like how even starting in 1990 it's clear that every Metal Gear game was supposed to be the last, lol.

Kinda makes me winder how Snake had so much reverse character development between 2 and S though. I guess just because they needed a story.

I don't find it to odd, just that his PTSD resurfaced again after he thought killing BB would get rid of it.
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lilORANG posted...

Other than some massive plot holes, yeah it's pretty good.

What are you talking about?

There are some unexplained things, and some changes from the myths (some which annoy me) but I didn't notice any plot holes.
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It's definitely worth it.
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Omega Hunter posted...

Ammonitida posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

When was the last time a black kid shot up a school?

Harper-Mercer. 2015. Killed 12. An incel.

Before that, Latina Williams, one of the few female school shooters.

He was mixed race:

https://www.scoopnest.com/user/HollywoodLife/649879017135452160

You don't get to put that squarely in the black camp.

Most of the "Black people" in the US are like 3/4 black.

It's harder to find someone who is 100%
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Aren't black men like 20ish% of mass shooters?

I remember somebody posted stastics a while back.
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Von_Miller posted...

you could also play them all chronologically:

MGS3
Peace Walker
MGS5
MG
MG2
MGS/Twin Snakes
MGS2
MGS4

cant remember if im missing one

Portable Ops and Rising are also canon.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Bisexuality is uncommon. More uncommon that homosexuality.

the NHIS reported in July 2014 that at least 3 percent of Americans identify as gay or lesbian, and 0.7 percent identify as bisexual.

When you see a guy (in fiction or otherwise) who is strongly attracted to a woman it's a perfectly reasonable natural assumption the guy's straight. I'm bi and I'd assume that too.

Everybody, literally everybody, assumed Lando was straight up till now. And he's still straight in the OT.

Nu-Lando is a different Lando, that's all there is to it.

And as we all know, the Star Wars universe is an accurate reflection of America directly, and thus, the demographics need align with such to make perfect sense.

Now, where did I place my sex droid?

Ah yes, all the sex droids in Star Wars.

I remember them from their appearance in.....
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Darmik posted...

averagejoel posted...

Darmik posted...

averagejoel posted...

the difference is that Obi-Wan has backstory in Clone Wars which shows that he is not gay

I'm sure if Clone Wars revealed Obi-Wan was gay no one would be complaining though <_<

Obi-Wan's romantic interest was one of my favourite characters in CW. if they retconned that I'd be pretty pissed.

I meant back in the day.

Besides I'm sure there are plenty of Jedi they can suddenly claim are gay that would rile up people way more than Lando. The people who are trying to say that it's because he flirted with Leia is just an excuse.

I hated Obi-Wan having a lovely interest and will be just as annoyed if another Jedi was introduced as having one, whatever coupling they may be.
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Darmik posted...

The stuff in Solo with Lando seems similar to that single comment in Skyfall that people freaked out about. Also for no real reason.

It's not a line, it's one of the writers that said he was pan.

Also to the the "well if it's not specifically stated" crowd.

How would you feel if a seemingly gay character was revealed to be bi, and in a married relationship with children in a sequel?
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The owl is the best puzzle.
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