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TopicWhat is with Netflix and the loads of Korean shows?
Deganawidah
07/20/18 5:47:31 PM
#4
There are a lot of Korean movies on Amazon Prime as well.
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TopicWhat kind of soda do they have in Korea?
Deganawidah
07/14/18 8:50:03 PM
#11
kingdrake2 posted...
korean's are somewhat right. a&w kinda has the taste of a toothpaste flavor.


Right. Depending on the root beer brand and toothpaste brand, some of the ingredients used to flavor regular toothpaste and which give flavors and aromas to other medicines (including topical pain relievers) are similar to or the same as those used in root beer. Many of the older soda flavors - including root beer and cola - originated as tonics with medicinal applications.
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TopicWhat kind of soda do they have in Korea?
Deganawidah
07/14/18 6:04:05 PM
#9
Since TC is apparently curious now, I'll mention a few.

There are global brands like Coke and Pepsi selling many of their typical products. The recipes for colas vary a bit from the what is sold in the U.S., but is common around the country. In my opinion, Coke and Pepsi taste a big sweeter in Korea and Coke feels less carbonated. I haven't seen any documentation to back that up, just my perception of how it tastes and feels.There are local companies selling cola as well.

Some of the American and other overseas brands are bottled and marketed in Korea by local companies, including Pepsi and Mountain Dew and so you see them sold in machines alongside local brands.

One of the most common and popular types of soda is what is routinely called "cider" () in Korean. It's a lemon-lime type soda usually, but the flavor varies by brand. Chilsung () cider tastes most similar to 7Up while Cheonyeon () cider tastes sweeter and more candy-like and is very similar in flavor to the Japanese soda ramune ().

You also have things like Milkis () and other similar brands of the same type. It's a soda that contains milk and is creamy and comes in "classic" flavor as well as a variety of fruit flavors.

There is one soda I don't particularly like, called McCol (). The English name seems like just some personal-style name, but it's a rendering of the Korean, which is a combination of Sino-Korean character for barely and the first syllable of cola. It's basically a barely cola and to me it tastes like someone mixed cheap non-alcoholic beer with cola. I don't recommend it personally, but if you are curious, give it a try.

Something you usually don't find in Korea (except in areas with high foreign residency) is root beer. Root beer is something that hasn't caught on much there for some reason. Many Koreans who taste it for the first time comment that it tastes somewhat medicinal and reminiscent of toothpaste, though I've personally known Koreans who grew up in Korea and had that reaction to root beer at first but later grew accustomed to the flavor.
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TopicWhat kind of soda do they have in Korea?
Deganawidah
07/14/18 5:15:00 PM
#2
I clicked on this planning to give actual examples, but I guess those aren't needed.
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TopicK-pop performance in north korea
Deganawidah
07/14/18 11:43:48 AM
#8
There are people in North Korea who enjoy K-pop from South Korea, but they consume it illegally and mostly in secret. They wouldn't generally be the type of people invited to an event like this by Kim Jong Un and the other leadership. Even if they were, they would not allow themselves to show too much excitement and reveal they had been listening to K-pop already.

As for that audience, aside from what I said above about anyone who may already like K-pop not wanting to advertise that, I suspect it's a mix of genuinely not caring for the music and dance style, it being unfamiliar to them, and intentionally putting on a certain demeanor.
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TopicKorea wtf is this
Deganawidah
07/09/18 8:10:59 PM
#23
DK9292 posted...
Deganawidah posted...
They named the burger phonetically in Korean based on the original Japanese name, "wagamama," which means selfish or indulgent.

Really?

So that's where Wagamama's get their name from...


Oh, I see, it's a restaurant chain serving Japanese food. I don't think I've ever seen one of those though it sounds vaguely familiar. It seems probable that their name has the same meaning. Given these two examples and the choice made in "translating" the name in Korean, I wonder if the word has a less negative connotation in Japanese than it sounds like in translation or if it's just well-established as being used jokingly in Japanese.
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TopicKorea wtf is this
Deganawidah
07/09/18 8:04:36 PM
#21
DK9292 posted...
Deganawidah posted...
They named the burger phonetically in Korean based on the original Japanese name, "wagamama," which means selfish or indulgent.

Really?

So that's where Wagamama's get their name from...


That I don't know but sounds at least plausible. The case of the burger I think is fairly obvious since it's a Japanese chain and because the smaller versions of the name to the right of the large "Wagamama" in Korean are "Wagamama" in Japanese (written in hiragana) and "naemamdaero" written in Korean below it.
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TopicKorea wtf is this
Deganawidah
07/09/18 7:59:02 PM
#19
Interesting word choice in Korean from the original Japanese. The chain is Japanese, but obviously with stores in Korea. They named the burger phonetically in Korean based on the original Japanese name, "wagamama," which means selfish or indulgent. But where they "translate" the Japanese into Korean, they pick the word "namamdaero" which roughly translates to "as I like it" or "my choice." I guess marketing decided to downplay the perception of gluttony for the Korean customers?
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Topicthis korean girl is so cute
Deganawidah
06/18/18 7:34:44 PM
#11
_BIueMonk posted...
Guy_Fieri posted...
Does she enjoy the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

hm. not sure. i dunno what 90s american sitcoms are in syndication in south korea


I've never heard anything of Fresh Prince having been on TV in Korea and the few people from Korea to whom I've mentioned it hadn't heard of it.
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TopicI love how Japan is using anime to promote the 2020 Olympics.
Deganawidah
06/13/18 2:50:48 PM
#41
SerperiorThanU posted...
I remember seeing ads for shin chan and astro boy everywhere as a kid. Never saw it myself though. Doraemon always seemed bigger than shin chan though and is more photogenic.


Yeah. I think Doraemon is more iconic than Shin Chan and generally used more in promoting Japan. Doraemon was even featured at one point in the textbooks I used when learning Japanese. I agree Doraemon is more photogenic and I also think more suitable for merchandising. While I have seen some Shin Chan merchandise, I've seen much more Doraemon merchandise.
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TopicWhich Korea is at war in the Korean war?
Deganawidah
06/12/18 5:34:27 PM
#10
DarkTransient posted...
_BlueMonk posted...
and in the north, chinese influence said socialism/communism.


Russia (or more accurately, the Soviet Union) had just as much, if not more, to do with that.


Right! The Soviets had far more to do with what happened in North Korea from 1945 to 1950. The Soviet military occupied the North from 1945-48 and oversaw the establishment of a new government. While many Korean communists came back from China, many having fought alongside Chinese Communists during World War II, those affiliated the Kim Il Sung's "Partisan" faction, which was directly supported by Moscow, held more power (which only grew in the post-Korean War years as Kim Il Sung gradually purged out most of the other factions). There was definitely some influence from the Chinese Communists, but it was informal and far less than that of the Soviets in terms of setting up the North Korean regime and bolstering it. The Chinese had more involvement in actual fighting of the Korean War.
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TopicI love how Japan is using anime to promote the 2020 Olympics.
Deganawidah
06/12/18 5:26:17 PM
#38
legendarylemur posted...
Shin-chan and Astro Boy are like... two of the most historically popular anime there lol. I lived in Korea as a kid and literally watched Shin-chan everyday, and my parents watched Astro Boy all the time even when TV was scarce back then

Although lol Yokai-Watch over Pokemon is pretty lolsy. Maybe there's a video game line up, though I'd think it'd be like 90% Nintendo


Even when I lived in Korea not that long ago, I would see Shin-chan (or Jjanggu) on TV quite often. I would sometimes watch it because it was midly entertaining even for an adult and gave me material to practice following along in Korean that wasn't a drama (both changing up the content/style and making it easier to comprehend more of it). I never personally saw Astro Boy on TV when I was in Korea but I knew it had been popular there and talked to many people who used to watch it.

I think widespread popularity and success abroad is the reasoning for this lineup. This poster is obviously in Japanese but I think highlighting successful franchises from the country is something big for domestic marketing, especially for events like the Olympics, and it's possible they will make foreign-language versions of this ad with the same image.
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TopicI love how Japan is using anime to promote the 2020 Olympics.
Deganawidah
06/12/18 5:22:51 PM
#37
Zikten posted...
Calwings posted...
It's basically a lineup of Japan's most popular anime franchises. It's not a coincidence that they're all huge merchandise sellers too.

what is the pink girl from? never heard of her


That's the only one I had never heard of either. I like anime but I am far from a hardcore fan. The fact that I immediately recognized all but two, and have heard of Yokai Watch, says that they picked a pretty widely recognizable lineup.
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TopicWhich Korea is at war in the Korean war?
Deganawidah
06/12/18 5:10:09 PM
#7
The simple answer is North Korea and South Korea are at war with one another, but other parties have varied involvement.

The Korean War was between South Korea and the United Nations (including the United States) on one side and North Korea and China on the other. It was a war between the two states claiming rule over the Korean peninsula (effectively a civil war) but quickly came to involve the UN and China. Chinese involvement was formally not as the state itself but as a Chinese volunteer force and so the People's Republic of China is not formally at war with South Korea, the United States, or any other UN members who participated.

Japanese influence in Korea gradually increased in the late 19th century (formally beginning with the Treaty of Kanghwa in 1876) and, through two wars (First Sino-Japanese War, 1894-1895, and Russo-Japanese War, 1904-1905) and smaller disturbances and several more treaties, the Japanese entrenched their own influence and pushed out other foreign influence in Korea. Japan made Korea protectorate (still an independent country formally but with Japan in charge of defense and foreign relations) in 1905 and then fully annexed Korea in 1910.

Throughout the period of Japanese colonial rule (1910-1945) many Koreans were influenced by ideas and ideologies such as self-determination (especially from Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points speech in 1919), democracy, socialism, and communism. This was especially true within the independence movement. Many members initially sought and accepted any compatible ideology and source of foreign support, but factionalism arose in the early 1920s and there was a schism in the Korean independence movement between those who favored Western (i.e. Euro-American) ideas and support and those who favored Soviet/Communist support.

When Japan surrendered to the Allies at the end of World War II in 1945, Korea was liberated from Japanese rule, but the United States and Soviet Union occupied Korea, with the U.S. occupying south of the 38th parallel and the Soviets north of the 38th parallel. The original plan was to hold nationwide elections under UN supervision and establish a single Korean government. However, the sides did not agree on the details and their influence exacerbated the existing political and ideological factionalism. Moderates lost their influence in both occupation and zones and governments strongly aligned with the occupier's ideas and goals were put into place. They became formally established states in 1948 and each claimed to be the sole legitimate government of Korea as Soviet and U.S. forces left.

Border skirmishes took place along the 38th parallel for about two years until North Korea launched an invasion of the South on June 25, 1950. The United Nations (minus the Soviet Union, China, and some other Communist bloc powers) intervened on behalf of South Korea. China later entered the war on the side of North Korea. The Soviets never officially entered the war though they did provide some support, but did not put troops on the ground in Korea.

Fighting continued until July 1953, when the two sides signed an armistice (cease fire) agreement. There is no peace treaty yet. The two Koreas are formally at war with one another and North Korea considers itself at war with the United States as well. While South Korea officially regards North Korea as an "anti-state organization" in control of part of the country, North Korea regards South Korea as a puppet state of the United States and so always considers the United States a necessary party in any process toward resolving the conflict.
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TopicHow many African countries can you name?
Deganawidah
06/05/18 7:18:54 PM
#51
54/54

I've been interested in maps and geography for most of my life and have spent a lot of time looking at maps and also generally reading about history and global current affairs. Also, though not requiring knowledge of every single country on the continent, the African history course I took in college had a map quiz. It included some countries, some cities. and I think a couple of topological features.
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TopicThat feel when the local movie place has a no singles policy.
Deganawidah
06/02/18 11:08:17 PM
#35
SkynyrdRocker posted...
Deganawidah posted...
Firewood18 posted...
Wait, I get it. It's a sexy theater.


There is movie theater in Seoul, South Korea, that has reclining TempurPedic beds and they are arranged in pairs.

But can you buy a single there


That I don't know.
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TopicThat feel when the local movie place has a no singles policy.
Deganawidah
06/02/18 10:35:41 PM
#32
Firewood18 posted...
Wait, I get it. It's a sexy theater.


There is movie theater in Seoul, South Korea, that has reclining TempurPedic beds and they are arranged in pairs.
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TopicI learned today that jaleel white is sonic O_o
Deganawidah
06/02/18 9:52:17 PM
#14
Today I was watching an episode of That '70s Show (S4E2) and some of the group visited a theme park.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0720077/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_380

They met the park's mascot, Woofy the Dog (a man dressed in a dog costume with huge ears but you can mostly see his human face, except for a dog nose). I though the guy sounded a LOT like Dog in CatDog and wondered if it was Tom Kenney (who voices Dog but is probably most famous now for voicing Spongebob Squarepants). I looked it up and found that it is, in fact, Tom Kenney.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444786/?ref_=nv_sr_1

I knew Tom Kenney is a highly prolific voice actor, but I didn't realize how much live action work he had done. I suspect the voice similarity between Woofy the Dog on That '70s Show and Dog on CatDog (which first made me think I was just imagining it) was due to it being Tom Kenney's go-to cartoonish, excited dog voice.
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TopicJapanese or Korean?
Deganawidah
05/29/18 6:00:29 PM
#25
Ricemills posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
saspa posted...
Not the first one though, that's been stated to be chinese

the dudes look decidedly chinese


come to think of it, i never saw any fat korean guy except the one from the north and american koreans.


I've seen some pretty big Korean guys, but usually they have an all-around large frame to begin with.
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TopicJapanese or Korean?
Deganawidah
05/29/18 5:59:24 PM
#24
saspa posted...
Not the first one though, that's been stated to be chinese


If you are basing that on what I said, all I can confirm is it's on a Chinese media platform, but I think that's something anyone could use. They do appear more Chinese than Korean to me, but that isn't enough to be certain. Sometimes it's pretty obvious, others it's not.
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TopicIf you had Super Mario Bros on NES, did you have a cart combo or stand alone?
Deganawidah
05/28/18 8:36:07 PM
#41
Were the combo cartridges available for purchase apart from being bundled with the NES console?
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TopicIf you had Super Mario Bros on NES, did you have a cart combo or stand alone?
Deganawidah
05/28/18 7:02:52 PM
#34
If I remember correctly, I had the NES bundle that included the Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt cartridge, two regular controllers, and the Zapper light gun controller.
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Topic"Ancient - it was released over 20 years ago"
Deganawidah
05/27/18 11:13:24 AM
#11
Blightzkrieg posted...
Deganawidah posted...
Yeah. I don't particularly like the periodization scheme used in this poll. Even if you only consider home console gaming, that goes back to the early-to-mid 1970s. Classifying anything more than 20 years old (i.e. before 1998) effectively makes more than half of home video gaming history "ancient."

We consider well more than half of human history ancient.


True. But that is much longer and much less documented. Still, your point is valid. I guess I should restate my objection. The actual word used is less of an issue than the fact that everything before 1998 is lumped together. There is quite a difference between games made in the mid 90s, early 90s, and mid-to-late 80s, let alone earlier eras. I would say the differences between these arguably are at least as meaningful if not more so than differences within the more recent years.
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Topic"Ancient - it was released over 20 years ago"
Deganawidah
05/27/18 10:48:14 AM
#8
Yeah. I don't particularly like the periodization scheme used in this poll. Even if you only consider home console gaming, that goes back to the early-to-mid 1970s. Classifying anything more than 20 years old (i.e. before 1998) effectively makes more than half of home video gaming history "ancient."
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TopicThose of you who visited NYC, how was your experience?
Deganawidah
05/26/18 1:39:34 PM
#2
Yes. I've been three times. The first time I went to Central Park and a few stores and places to eat. The second time I did some more typical sight-seeing. I saw Times Square, the Empire State Building (didn't go in it, though), the WTC/Ground Zero, walked around the waterfront and saw the Statue of Liberty from across the water in Manhattan. I've also been to Koreatown and to Columbia University's campus. I definitely would go back.
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TopicJapanese or Korean?
Deganawidah
05/26/18 1:22:04 PM
#14
Also, as _BlueMonk mentioned, the girl in the second video is a Korean newswoman. Her name is Jang Ye-won ().
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TopicCE allow me to greet you in the language of my ancestors
Deganawidah
05/25/18 8:32:13 PM
#18
_BIueMonk posted...
pang gap seum ni da


There is at least one spelling error here and either a second spelling error or a mixture of romanization systems, depending on how you look at it.

The way you wrote most of this (and your other posts) is consistent with South Korea's current Revised Romanization system. In that case, the correct spelling is "ban gap seum ni da." I included spacing between syllables for clarity, but typically you don't space between syllables in a word in romanization. But if I did leave out spaces in this romanization, it would cause ambiguity regarding the ending sound of the first syllable. The first syllable of the word ends in an N sound, not an NG sound. A G sound following in the next syllable doesn't change an N sound.

The first letter of the word, per Revised Romanization, should be rendered as B, but you may have seen it rendered as P because this is the correct way to render it in the McCune-Reischauer system, which used to be the official standard in South Korea and is still used by many scholars and linguists outside Korea. Romanization is sometimes mixed or inconsistent with any single system because some people don't adhere fully to one system.

I'm not sure if you really care, but I figured I'd at least try.
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TopicJapanese or Korean?
Deganawidah
05/23/18 9:17:05 PM
#9
The first is on a Chinese media platform and they look more Chinese than Korean to me, though I can't always be certain.

The second is definitely Korean. She looks very Korean and is on Korean TV show on a Korean channel.
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TopicWhich season of Always Sunny in Philadelphia should I start with?
Deganawidah
05/22/18 10:50:57 PM
#25
If you are trying to get into the show, start with Season 1. The show isn't driven by story arcs, but there are developments that stick and come back up later, and it helps to have seen the relevant earlier episodes (though it's rarely, if ever, an absolute necessity). The show does sometimes refer back to things that have happened before and there is some character development. I think as the show goes on, the writers generally work on the assumption that the audience is already familiar with the characters and the dynamics of the show, so you are better off starting at the beginning, with Season 1, where the show is very much still finding its rhythm. People say the show really took off with Season 2, and I generally agree, but it's not that Season 1 is bad. Season is just a bit different (as is common) and lacks Frank. I don't know if Frank necessarily makes or breaks the show, though the addition of a character to round out the main cast definitely helped the long-term viability of the show. There are definitely some hilarious episodes in Season 1.
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TopicWhat book(s) are you reading?
Deganawidah
05/22/18 10:01:33 PM
#19
Empire of the Dharma: Korean and Japanese Buddhism, 1877-1912 by Hwansoo Ilmee Kim. I'm a little more than halfway through it. I haven't decided yet what to read next.
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TopicDid you know that America banned all books make before 1985 (IE, after 1984)
Deganawidah
04/15/18 11:49:12 AM
#8
Looking at all of the article links provided, I see that it only applies to children's books, which makes some sense and also explains my initial confusion.

It's understandable to restrict the sale and commercial distribution of a product intended primarily for children if it contains significant traces of lead.

I was confused by the topic title and the claim initially because I see and use books printed before 1985 quite often. Access to older books is important not only to people interested in books that are now out of print (and also to libraries who would have to get rid of some of their stock if this were applied to all books) but also to scholars, journalists, and other researchers who frequently use such material. I handled more than a dozen pre-1985 books over the last couple of months for research. Some of them I own and they sit on my shelves right now.

For that reason, I think even if they restrict distribution of children's books printed before 1985 to children, they should still retain them in some libraries (at least in university libraries, anyway) so that they may be accessed by historians or other scholars of literature and art.
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TopicBeen playing Pokemon Gen 1 in its original Japanese. Here's what I've learned.
Deganawidah
02/25/18 11:00:41 PM
#19
I always enjoy these sorts of fun efforts (whether as something just for fun or as practice on the side of learning or to keep up a language). I've never done anything like this yet with Japanese, which I only started learning seriously last year, but I've done it with Korean.

A really great convenience was that Nintendo DS (unlike most game consoles and portables at that point) and its games were not region-specific. I was able to buy some games in Korea and play them on my DS, the only difference being that they are in Korean. I think my favorite is Super Mario 64 DS in Korean. Obviously it is not a text-heavy game, but it does have some.

At various times in and out of Korea I've used other devices and software in Korean, including Facebook, iPods, cell phones (Korean phones in Korea), and GPS navigation for driving. I find that engaging in practical tasks with a language outside of instructional settings is good for conditioning your brain to deal with the language.
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