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mistalightbulb posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Really though, id like to see his source for those numbers

good luck. sowell seems to have a hard time citing sources and backing up his bullshit

What a great way of admitting you've never read one thing he's ever written while still looking like a tool.
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mistalightbulb posted...

just so you guys know, most people here see through your fake outrage bullshit.

Did you not just criticize Sowell for being black? No one else brought up his skin color until you did
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@mistalightbulb posted...

sowell is the epitome of that stereotype of "one of the good ones"

basically he's the only black intellectual that conservative nutjobs can point to. the dude's citation skills and sourcing of his claims are on par with that of a college freshman. nothing he says should be taken seriously

You're literally insulting Sowell for his skin color.

What's it like being a racist?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

@Mal_fet
@Godnorgosh

You guys might be interested in chapter 4 (The World of Numbers). Some of the stuff he talked about there was mindblowing. Specifically around dishonesty in statistics around income.

He talked about how household income as a metric is intentionally designed to be deceiving. You can formulate those statistics in such a way as to talk about household income decreasing, even while individual incomes are increasing. He then mentions a few examples of how that could be the case and why individual incomes are what actually matters. The good news is that those are increasing!

Example: If you have two people living together as room mates and making $20,000 a piece, and they both get promoted and then make $30,000 a piece...and if they move out to get their own place since they earn more money, you now have two households that are "earning less" even though the individuals are earning more and are empowered to live a better and more independent life.

Then he talks about income brackets and how people refer to the bottom 20 percent as "the poor" even though we hardly ever talk about the time factor. IE how much they earn over time. He presented evidence on how 95% of the people initially in the bottom 20 percent over the period 1975 to 1991 rose to the top quintile. Only 5 percent of the bottom 20 percent remained in the bottom 20 percent over that time period. Which means that only 1 percent of the population sampled actually constituted "the poor" in any meaningful sense, even though political pundits and leftists would talk about "the poor" as if they're an unchanging group of people. It's simply not true.

The same happens with "the rich." When in reality, the richest of the rich is not a single group that has persisted over time. They are overwhelmingly a transient class, not an enduring class. There's a ton of turnover in the top fifth of the income distribution, and even more the higher up you go.

"At some point between the ages of 25 and 60, over three-quarters of the population will find themselves in the top 20 percent of income distribution." So basically, when someone resents "the rich" they are basically resenting what they themselves will become as they work and acquire skills.

I'm reminded of a particular Sowell quote about statistics: "A is always greater than B if you ignore enough of B and exaggerate A."
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Uncle Choad posted...

ITT: Peak soy.

Joe Rogan would destroy you two at once.

Probably, but at least I would crumple from his punches rather than his opinions. Unlike certain people ITT ;)
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jumi posted...

From his newspaper columns, Thomas Sowell is trash. He thinks every problem in existence is because of some mysterious, nebulous "intelligensia." That's basically his favorite word.

I don't think you've read many Thomas Sowell columns.
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Uncle Choad posted...

ITT: Peak soy.

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Press X to paint masterpiece
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

"How do we fight these antifascists?"

If Antifa are actually anti-fascist then why do they keep assaulting people who aren't fascists
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metralo posted...

probably because the KKK don't fucking weird the hoods and masks like they used to and everyone knows that

I'm pretty sure they still wear the hoods

And if they don't, then it's super easy to identify and arrest them if their face is exposed, is it not?
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mario2000 posted...

i'm fine with this if we can lock up all the neo nazis and klansmen too

Well this law would also target klansmen because the only things outlined in the bill are 1. wearing a mask and 2. Being in a group that is committing assault

You guys don't care about that though.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Be honest, how pissy were you that every single person arrested for protesting on the inauguration had their charges dropped?

Actually 27(ish) plead guilty to various charges.
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frozenshock posted...

'Advance Australia Fair means 'fair skin'': Anthony Mundine says the national anthem is a 'theme song' for white people - and historians and college professors agree with him

This is almost dumber than that one guy who said the term "black hole" was racist.
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Anyone who actually thinks Antifa is only a danger to fascists hasn't been paying attention for the last decade.
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"Male" and "female" define one of two variants in a gender-dimorphic species.

The idea that genders are spectrum is insane. Having an erroneous X or Y chromosome isn't a new gender on the spectrum, it would be like classifying a person with Downs syndrome something other than homo-sapien because they have an extra chromosome.
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hockeybub89 posted...

The whole side? Also how?

Not the whole side. There are people wise to this bullshit like Maher. Watch as he demolishes the idea that there are "moderate" Islamic countries



hockeybub89 posted...

And you said Islam because you confuse religious folk with the religion itself.

No, I said Islam because I meant Islam

hockeybub89 posted...

I can't say I've seen many people who identify somewhere on the left of center and non-religious that express explicit support of the tenets of Islam.

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Cheater87 posted...

So the GOP is against an anti-fascist movement, wow.

^ Look at all those FASCISTS that Antifa prevented from making their commute! Way to go, Antifa!

hockeybub89 posted...

Aren't there already laws about that too? And how are you going to arrest someone for wearing a mask if them wearing a mask is what is preventing you from arresting them? Are police currently arresting masked rioters and releasing them because they don't think of removing the masks so they can identify them? How would a law about "oppression and intimidation" help you catch unidentified rioters?

Because you can arrest the whole group for assisting violent assholes by hiding them in a sea of lookalikes.

Seems pretty obvious
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hockeybub89 posted...

We already have laws against violence. Singling out Antifa and using vague language in a proposed bill seems very odd. I was unaware Antifa members were not currently affected by American criminal law.

Hard to enforce violence laws when Antifa intentionally dress alike and wear face masks so that they can punch people and then run away like cowards into the mass of people who are dressed like them, making it night impossible to be identified by police.
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JE19426 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

And they're still a domestic terrorist group.

Are you calling Politico fake news now? Because you turning on Politico would be more hilarious than you turning on Antifa

Politico doesn't call them a domestic terrorist group, in the link you gave. If you meant to give a different link, feel free to provide it.

Politico confirmed that the DHS does.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Libs jumped the shark in like 2005 when they started defending Islam.

Are you saying no one who identifies as "liberal" should defend people who identify as Muslim? I think Islam is a joke and that religion should die, but I'll be damned if I'd stand for the oppression of religious folk or assuming them all to be terrible people. What you call stupid and hypocritical is exactly what someone who identifies as socially liberal or progressive should stand for. I know you spend every day lurking Reddit and Twitter for SJW idiocy and it has twisted your reality, but freedom actually is a pretty big tenet for a lot of left leaning people.

Defending Muslims =/= defending Islam

You're one of the first to scream about how everyone has a right to free speech and people aren't Nazis for thinking Nazis shouldn't get punched. It's so curious how you lose your critical thinking skills when the left or Muslims come into play. It's almost like you have an agenda.

Well, first off, I never suggested you shouldn't be allowed to defend Islam or Muslims.

Second, yeah, I said Islam, not Muslims.

Isn't it odd how the side that claims to stand for LGBT and women's rights would defend a religion that advocates murdering gay people and imprisoning female rape victims?
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iHuman posted...

and it begins

and i know trolling here is funny, but when you're freedom is taken will you be trolling then

huh will yah

You never had the freedom to riot and hit people with bike locks.

Sorry you had to learn it this way
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DoomsSD posted...

Ok. Here's my input.

Scrap the games. Scrap the friend.

Instead what you should do is, invite a porn star around and get her to sit on your face.

I'd watch that.

Better idea: Hire professional strippers to play a game with you while you film it and awkwardly flirt with her the whole time.
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azndreamdiamond posted...

What about.... I consistently buy the worst games and technology.... but i will argue its the best?

People who try to do characters on Youtube are almost always terrible.
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Solid Snake
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And they're still a domestic terrorist group.

Are you calling Politico fake news now? Because you turning on Politico would be more hilarious than you turning on Antifa
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SavenForever posted...

Milkman5 posted...

Liberals have jumped the shark

They did a looooooooooooooooooooong time ago.

Libs jumped the shark in like 2005 when they started defending Islam.
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That's basically what the Clueless Gamer segments on Conan are
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hockeybub89 posted...

Because it isn't both, so constantly screaming "This will keep the left out of power even longer" is fucking stupid. And again, Antifa is the worst terror group ever as they are wildly underperforming compared to any of their peers.

I didn't say they were the "worst" terrorist group ever.

Can you read?
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hockeybub89 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

They will ensure 4 more years of Trump for sure at this rate.

And white supremacists attack people on the regular and have for an extremely long time. Shouldn't that have assured no Republicans should win any election ever? What makes Antifa super extra detestable?

I mean if your only defense of Antifa is "at least they aren't Nazis" then you've pretty much proven my point
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Here's a video off working class people cheering as Antifa scum get arrested for blocking a bus



When a movement claims to be fighting against fascism and supporting the working class, does seeing a bunch of working class people get pissed at them for blocking a tram and then cheering as police slam them to the ground make you think that maybe, just maybe, Antifa is full of shit?
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MrMallard posted...

Antifa is about cleaning the streets of violent Neo-Nazi scum, people who pose an actual threat.

lmfao

Yeah, they really showed that immigrant limo driver when they set fire to his car. And those Starbucks employees who had to miss a day's pay because some Antifa assholes broke their windows. And a jewish conservative moderate who they sent death threats to because he had the nerve to speak at an event he was invited to. And all those non-Nazi people they assault with deadly weapons.

Great job, Antifa. You're really "cleaning up the streets" by ruining normal people's days.

They will ensure 4 more years of Trump for sure at this rate.
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Family guy has Seth Green, Mila Kunis, and Patrick Warburton.

Usually Hollywood actors cost a bit more than actors who exclusively do voices.
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Milkman5 posted...

you have to continuously ask for consent. You have to ask every 2 seconds.

That's obvious. How would you know if they decide to revoke consent otherwise?
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JE19426 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group

Antifa isn't a group at all, so it certainly isn't a terrorist group.

Actually it is

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

Confidential documents call the anarchists that seek to counter white supremacists domestic terrorists.

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Antifa is a literal domestic terrorist group, soooooo who cares
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Lmao useless votes? So you are trying to tell me that there's a bigger difference between Minot, North Dakota and Sioux Falls, South Dakota than Anaheim, California and Roseville, California?

How about Michigan and Ohio? Not a big difference?

And did Hillary win Roseville, or did she lose it like she did with most non-urban non-coastal counties?
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

at least you acknowledge that the system is not straightforward and caters to the party you admire. I do not blame you for supporting the system and my goal is not to convert your. My goal is to get these more than 2 million voters to wake the **** up.

I like how the EC is a problem for you and not the fact that Hillary had over twice the campaign funding Trump had.

Like, if Hillary was even a little bit competent she absolutely had the resources to draw in votes from where it mattered instead of 2 million extra useless votes from California.

Case in point, if a politician can only appeal to large urban coastal areas, and lose even though you have half a billion dollars more than your opponent and the entire MSM on your side, they probably just suck.

Too bad, so sad. Hil-dog will never be the president.
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

YellowSUV posted...

That's the intention of the US Constitution which was designed to appease slave states and give them more power.

Exactly, slavery cursed this country with the so called "lets appease and balance everything out for the other asshole party in this country".

Wrong, it was to appease small states, not slave states.

Are you maybe thinking of the 3/5ths compromise?
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

JBaLLEN66 posted...

The EC and the outdated constitution allow this bs to happen in this country. Hillary Clinton won 2,868,686 more votes than Trump and still lost the election.

Hillary got more votes in the DNC primary than Obama in 2008.

Didn't hear anybody complaining about that.

I agree, the democratic primaries are stupid and rigged. Now, do you have a relevant point to make?

That you don't get to complain that the outcome of a chess game because the rules aren't more like checkers.
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They look like the douchebags of the emo culture

Which is kind of redundant I guess
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Mal_Fet posted...

Rimmer_Dall posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

Not lying, just wrong

No, they lied.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76795233/904850600

@FrisbeeDude

"I was just trolling!"

You're getting more and more ridiculous with every post.

Either ghost out of the topic or just admit that what Price did was bad. Either option will save you some credibility.
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

The EC and the outdated constitution allow this bs to happen in this country. Hillary Clinton won 2,868,686 more votes than Trump and still lost the election.

Hillary got more votes in the DNC primary than Obama in 2008.

Didn't hear anybody complaining about that.
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C_Pain posted...

Like okay it's bad but in school they act like it's fundamentally one of the biggest sins, worse than murdering a man.

I wasn't aware you go to jail for plagiarism
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Rimmer_Dall posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

Not lying, just wrong

No, they lied.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76795233/904850600

@FrisbeeDude
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Tyranthraxus posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

Yeah I don't think that's true

It pretty much is. Gamergate was literally founded on the Five Guys infographic (cause nothing says ethical journalism like a Facebook infographic made in MS paint made by a guy angry at his ex girlfriend about how she cheated on him with 5 guys 3 of which were completely proven false and two for which there exists no supporting evidence besides he said she said.)

No it's a fact that the guy she slept with gave her shitty Depression Quest game a highlight
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Houston posted...

R0N1N187 posted...

2) Coinbase

Is this all I need to buy Bitcoin/have a wallet/use to pay a merchant/Receive money? Or do I need to download Bitcoin also?

You just select which currency to buy and buy it.

If you buy $100 worth of Bitcoin, you'll get $100 worth of a Bitcoin. Which would equate to like 1/3000ths of one coin
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FrisbeeDude posted...

I mean when i come with literally multiple sources supporting her and disagreeing with the decision, only to have those sources just handwaved away as biased...what's the point of taking that side seriously?

Your sources were Polygon and Buzzfeed.

Polygon. And Buzzfeed.
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