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FF15 is up

1/3 Noctis doublecast LM

Boy I sure am getting a lot of LM so far.

Also 100 gem Shadow's Burst. Dated but still nice to have since I don't have anything else for him.
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We're going to need a new topic soon, tonight's RoP is going to kill this topic.

Guess the topic should be something with FF12 Judges and Yiazmat since that's supposed to be the star bosses of the next fest.
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FFT is up.

1/3 Malak Legend Materia. Meh.
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I still haven't pulled a rainbow either on the daily draw.

Realms on parade is here!

1/3 Machina LM

Off to a bleh start, but at least it's not a dupe...
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I 100 gem'd Strago's chain! First gen 2 chain (granted it's the worst element for mages, but dat 50% magic buff)



Now I'm tempted to pull for OK's USB3 now that I have a water magic chain. Gonna have to pick Strago's LM next dream select for sure!
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If you have Strago's Mighty Guard super it's surprisingly MVP in this fight, slot saver on protect/shell and a large resistance boost, Wrexsoul never really did major damage to me outside of his incubus attacks. Terra and Locke's trancse didn't even activate during the fight which I guess is good problem to have.
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Sub30 first two difficulties with Strago, Terra, Locke, Relm and Mog (in that order) other than the 100% sleep (which is taken care of with Enkidu) this was pretty easy, which for Neo Torment is definitely a nice breather after Jenova and Zodiark. Chain Fiaja really did come in handy in both DPS and chain building.

Now that I got enough rubies I'm not sure which ability to pick next, probably after I pull on the either the lightning or earth fest banner.
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I managed to squeak one last Black Crystal today which was the last one I needed to R4 hone Chain Fiaja!



Got it ready for Terra for the FF6 torment tomorrow!
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Ugh, I was really hesitant but I bit on the lucky draw... 2 Discos!

Jecth OSB
Tifa AOSB!

Hey finally a second AOSB! Thank goodness, I was worried I was gonna get another Tidus chain or Cloud USB1.
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If you have Cloud's USB1 you can kill both tentacles with Tornado Strike under a chain (Zack or the series one Dr. Mog provides.) Also this was the first torment I went off realm since Aerith's BSB1 is way too slow to deal with all the aoes Jenova spams, I brought Rosa instead and it was much easier with wrathable magic blinks.

Also late on this on Matoya but she's more of a grey area since her chases only trigger after a weakness, and she falls behind dedicated mages due to her lack of infusion (her LMR seems to make her better but that's only for ice/lightning) I don't really consider her a real ice/fire/lightning mage more of a jack of trades, master of none. Even though I am guilty of using her as lightning mage out of poverty.

Also I just remembered I had Reno's USB all this time and should have used him over Matoya. D'oh.
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Rude's not even that bad considering he doesn't have a USB and Legend Dive yet. His ability set is really good (white 4*, lifesiphon, monk *6) And besides if you want to argue magicite viability Ixion is so frail with an achilles heel in magic that earth infusion + Chain Stonja/Meltdown is enough to contribute to a sub30 team. And Rude does get a earth damage boost on his Warmage sphere.

Really the main thing going against him is that FF7 is a rare realm now and he's a c-list character so it's going to be a while before he sees his Legend Dive and USB.
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There's actually more Earth mages in Japan than Ice right now though. Rinoa, Enna Kros, Maria, Emperor, Tellah, Rude, Red XIII (well he has the magic chain at least) Onion Knight and Krile recently got earth relics.

I still count Raines as a holy mage too since his OSB/USB are also holy elemental, and he has wrath to juggle them (and let's be frank here, how often does anyone else use anything besides wrath or Memento Mori on Raines.)
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Also it's good for the upcoming T-0 Torment, and ice mages in general are pretty rare.

Other than that she's pretty much a poor man's Ysayle with breaks instead of a chase and infusion. She also can wrath/lifesiphon/shellga/protectga for what that's worth.
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I got a *4 today but the rest were 2*'s and 3*'s since the daily draw update.

I managed to clear the Corridor of Trials with a poverty lightning team of Alphinaud, OK, Mog, Rosa and... Matoya. Well looks like that USB I got for her last RoP actually came in handy since I have no actual lightning dedicated mage USBs.

Hoo boy I was pretty tempted by the lightning pick up banner, but I'm saving up for Fest Banner 1 since there's two chains and lightning is probably my weakest element both physical and magical.
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Ah shoot I wasn't aware that the Boys Are Back event closed early! I was gonna finish up the hard missions on Sunday but it's already gone. Oh well I'd rather have the crystals than the motes and orbs (though they would probably be more useful than more summoning crystals.)

Also the Nimbus CM sucked, he wasn't too hard but it was a major drag because he's omni resistant and all the Type-0 characters are elemental focused. Used King's super and spark offering to stack imperils, Nine used Cyclone Bolt and Lighting Dive, Ace used Vali and unfortunately I had Rem with Holy and faith and her damage was pitiful. I should have had her use Bahamuts.
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Yeah but apparently it didn't have anything exclusive from the mobile game and just had bosses from the console game, so they could have ignored promotion for the mobile game and made it a normal WoFF event.

Also a boss from that event is supposed to be in an upcoming Crystal Tower. Wonder how they're gonna handle that.
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Looks like we're not getting the next World of Final Fantasy event and missing out on Enna Kros, one of the strongest earth mages.

Thanks for screwing Global against King Behemoth Dena! Sucks we're going back to missing characters again.
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Galuf got recently buffed to white magic *4 so he can protect/shellga while Lenna uses hastega. Krile and Gogo's SSBs also have hastaga if you have them and Gogo and Exdeath also have access to white magic *5. I just brought Shellga on Galuf since I got Faris' BSB2 which has large attack breakdowns.

Maintenance is tonight. Make sure to use up your stamina before 1PM PST.

Also sorta on topic my figurines of Diamond, Sapphire and Ruby Weapon I bought off eBay came from Japan today. I ordered them around the last fest since I liked the sprites of the Weapons and saw they also had figurines on the Final Fantasy Wiki. I saw some on eBay but they only had free shipping so that would explain the wait.(I also had to settle for a metallic variant of Ruby Weapon since I kept getting outbid on the normal color)


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I forgot to do a few of the Cid Missions (I too also assumed you only had to bring the character in costume) but meh, as long time players we have plenty of 4* motes at this point. Though admittedly I've run out of Wisdom motes to 4* dive Seymour, I've got hundreds of every other mote so I'm not too concerned about missing these motes (and really I only have myself to blame, I blew Wisdom motes on characters I only have supers for Cid Missions in other events.) Besides the next fest is close enough anyway and that will probably give me more than enough Wisdom motes for Seymour.

Better than the alternative with Dressed to the Nines where they took out Cid Missions completely for that event.
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Did the OSB select for a stat stick

2/11

Zell BSB (the en fire one, the second one I think?)
Seymour USB Oh sweet a rank chase USB!

Too bad Dena skipped the LM Dream select, would have bought Seymour's doublecast relic there if it was.

Still no Rem OSB? Crud! I picked Vivi's OSB for a fire boost. Don't have anything else for him and I'm probably gonna go mage for the FF9 torment anyway.
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Depends on the healer and magicite boss, and their phases. You can get more leeway on entrusting healers once you get *4 dampen elements and Blade/Spell Wards.
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Oh also that new 6* lightning/wind celerity skill comes out soon as well, if you're willing to sacrifice a bit of meter gain Shelke/Morrow can use it instead of wrath to help with DPS/chain, especially if they're hitting weakness.
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Shelke starts with haste and 3 instant casts. She can instant entrust a mako might or with a Ace Striker RM she can wrath twice and then entrust near 2 bars (and that character being entrusted will have meter anyway if they been damage or have been using abilities so they'll have two bars.) Also she's really good for characters who have to use multiple soul breaks early (IE with Tidus I have him lifesiphon for two turns, have Shelke wrath twice, then entrust then Tidus can use his chain then Ultra next turn)

Also entrusing healers is a major help in dealing with 4* magicite and other aoe heavy bosses that spamming curada can't cover.
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You probably already picked it but I wouldn't since I think you said you have Rufus' super and his burst is pretty much the same with commands. You should pick something to help a in realm you're lacking in for torments.

I beat Bizzaro Sephiroth today! What a bastard to take down!



For all the flack Tidus' BSB2 was getting earlier it actually was really important in killing the water immune magic thanks to the non-elemental side, and in general with the instant casts since when I tried with Zack/Cloud they would take too long with their soul break casts and Cloud needed a lot of meter and both my godwalls would wear off before I could finish Seph off. Tidus and Bartz' faster casts helped kill Seph without worry about the second one wearing off. Seph's tankiness also let Bartz go wild when he was stacked with glint and both USBs.
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3/11

Noctis Glint
Ayame LM
Lulu BSB (dupe)

Ironically the dupe is probably the best thing here since I could use another ice boosting mage armor.

Thinking between Rude's Gloves (even if I don't get Red XIII's chain OK can use it) and Lann's thrown (since Bartz and Locke can make good use of that)
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Burst selects are pretty much just stat stick selects these days, only Ignis is really strong enough to be worth using besides poverty element or realm stuff (besides Raines, Squall2 or Tidus2 as pointed out earlier, but most people already have those) Maybe Reks bsb as well since it's a attack+hastaga buff for Zodiack.

Rude's BSB seems to be a popular pick since it's an earth boosting glove with magic stats and the only earth boosting mage weapon that Red XIII can use and he's the magic earth chain user with 5* Magicite announced for late September.

Also seems like we got gypped of the Legend Materia dream select and are just going straight to the BSB/OSB according to the MVP email. Even for global that's baffeling.
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2/11 on the lucky draw

Galuf super
Sephiroth OSB

Both dupes. Bad ones too. Fuck.
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I think it's just easy dungeons where you get wardrobe records that have appeared in past events, there was one for the girls earlier, Dressed to the Nines I think. This will probably be the same just with records for the males.

In other words bleh filler.
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I think I should be okay for the FFVII 280 torment, I got Cloud USB1/BSB2 and Zack chain/burst for DPS, Shelke as freebie, Cait Sith BSB for Haste, and he can slot dispel and protectga, then use BSB commands after that. Aerith is the one I'm worried about since I don't have her USBs and just her Super and BSB1 which is bleh. There's supposed to be LM Dream Select tomorrow so I think I'll pick Aerith's doublecast LMR since I'll select her USB2 in a dream select later, but I think I'll wait for Sunday's banner so it doesn't bite me in the ass if I 100 gem it.
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Next FF12 banner has the new off banner stuff and it focuses on Balthier, who's great for Magicite Mateus but not great for Zodiark since Vaan's the only other fire DPS in the realm (well Vayne and Ashe can use fire spells but why would they when they specialize in Dark and Lightning so much?) This banner is better for Zodiark because it has one of the most important tools- Basch's USB2 and Fran is huge help with the damage reduction but Fran is also mostly useless outside of this torment and if you have Rikku's USB you don't really need Basch's outside of this torment unless you're using a holy team and Ramza is doing chain/USB2 DPS. On the next banner Penelo's USB2 is worse than her first one but good for torment and Garbranth still isn't great until he gets a speed buff. Ashe and Vaan's USBs are good outside of the torment
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I forgot about the realm synergy on the USB amd chain weapons, vaulted them away since FFVII had become a rare realm for some reason.

Sub30'd 240 but only got 35 seconds on the 280, which I would have if it wasn't for the stupid physical immunity phase. I brought Vayne as a mage for the first difficulty but the damage is way too high on the second one (even with Fran's USB2 and a level 99 Seraph!) so I had to swap him out for Penelo for her dance and that Larsa can't juggle hastaga/protectga/shellga by himself so Vaan and Basch just had to twiddle their thumbs for 5 seconds. I even had to legend dive Larsa for his dualcast LM2 even though I only have his BSB. Man this boss is DUMB, too much stuff you have to deal with (need a dispel, piercing attacks, physical/magical immune phases, Sap) and he does way too much damage! This is on top of a hodgepodge roster.

Oh well at least I got enough rubies for Chain Firaja.
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I do have the USB1 (ironically I also got it on the banner it debuted on) Once I master it I'm gonna see how fast I can kill Midgardsormr with it since Vaan gets dagger damage boosts from his legend dive so he has to keep using the air knife (and now that Onion Knight doesn't have to use Fujin's BSB weapon anymore.)

Also cool is that I got another wind weapon for Cloud & Zack so now they don't have to fight over Dorgann's sword for the next torment.
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Caved in 3/11

Basch LM
Fran USB
VAAN USB2!

All right! Vaan is back in business! Native Wind boosting Katana as well!
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I'm hesitating fighting the new torment since I think I may do a pull on the FF12 banner tonight, I don't feel comfortable with the characters since the only have 1 FF12 USB and legend dive with Vaan and everything except the bursts would help. Though Fran is pretty much useless outside of the this torment and Cid Missions and I already have Rikku's USB so Basch wouldn't get much use beyond this either which is making me reluctant to pull.
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My meltdown's still r4. I didn't do dailies much before the 1 Crystal guarantee since I spent my stamina torment farming major orbs before so most of those black crystals were from events.
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I'm black crystal broke though. I stayed up late Monday so I could carry over 200 stamina to the daily dungeon change then used the stamina refreshes from the Realm dungeon update to get some more (I screwed up and lost stamina because I forgot to bring breakdowns against the elite dungeons though >_< Wish they'd get rid of those medals like everything else these days) Stayed up late again to try and squeeze one more daily dungeon run and thankfully I ran into two magic pots to get 210 black crystals. It really sucked that there was no Black Crystals in last week's events.

Still Ysayle will appreciate it when Typhon and torment Ultima Weapon come.

That new FF11 banner just got looks pretty good, we're all probably going to have to pull on it anyway since most FF11 stuff is too dated for neo Torments and FF11 events are the rarest. It's so weird that Prishe has 2 USBs since I think the last FF11 event came out when USBs were still young.
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Hooray Vortex (or Voltech now) is here! R5'd right away, especially since there's no Chain Blizzagra for some reason in the batch of 6* ice abilities Japan gets this month.


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I didn't pull on the Lucky Draw since I'm saving up for the next fest (especially since Realms on Parade is supposed to be start early September, and 15/T0/Tactics are going to be seperate now) I did 100 gem Fran's Legend Materia from the Crystal Tower, but since everything is immune to interrupt these days it's basically useless.

Ugh the FF12 neo torment is tomorrow as well... at least we'll also have Vortex with it.
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It's a peeve when people say OK's pUSB is useless with gen 2 chains around or even with Zack's chain (which I still don't get, just because the attack buffs don't stack people disregard the % crit buff which does way more damage than something than a dual attack buff would and the attack softcap easy enough to reach anyway with 4* magicite buffs and ex modes) And that declining quick cast on his EX mode is also oddly ignored for some reason when it's pretty much a free Gathering Storm, his dualcast celerity is pretty much tailored to Ripping Blast (and the upcoming electric version) especially since doublecasts count towards the increased hit count. Amazing entruster with wrath and Lifesiphon counting as physical moves in his ex mode and he's a decent ninja too.

He's not even that bad with Cloud since with he's going to have Mako Might and go first, especially with the LMR. Even if you need to refresh haste for some reason in this speedkill meta you can have him use his BSB or Hastaga to prevent having his crit buff from overwriting Cloud's.
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You'll want both, but Sandworm has the HP boost that is pretty helpful in surviving.
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You're probably going to need a couple of Sandworms before you fight Hydra, I don't think solo Bartz is enough since you have to deal with all those imperils Hydra will be stacking so you need to kill it before it kills you.

Also to all those poo-pooing Onion Knight I almost got my first sub20 on Midgardsormr (in fact I probably would have if I used Ripping Blast instead of refreshing OK's USB for the EX mode.)



And that's with him using Fujin's BSB as a weapon, I could probably constantly sub20 if RNG wasn't a bitch and I got Bartz's Man Eater so Onion Knight can use that instead.
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I have Onion Knight use Dispel for Golem and Protectga for Midgardsormr, Ripping Blast for both (I used to use Raging Storm before Ripping Blast came out on Golem)

Cloud's a meter hog though in order for him to get that high (also I think Chris doesn't have Cloud's USB2) While Bartz only needs his USB1/Glint and his quickcasts from them to build chain like mad and cap soon, and while he can't break the cap like Cloud he's chucking out capped crit Snowspell Strikes with Ripping Blast support from Onion Knight and Zack and Dash and Slash from Rikku (Golem) or Vaan (Midgardsormr) Aerith USB2 might make Cloud's DPS better but even if I had it I'd still prefer Rosa in this fight in order to avoid the status effects, with 4 DPS this makes sub25 Midgardsormr runs consistent while Cloud as the sole DPS can get screwed over by slow, interrupts or paralyze while if someone one of my 4 DPS somehow gets status effected the other 3 can cover and still get the sub30.
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That's assuming if Bartz replaces Cloud as main DPS where the crit % boost is more important for him. And Onion Knight still does respectable damage, nigh instant 5/10 hits maxes out the chain pretty quick, he doesn't need meter or any other soul breaks.
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Onion Knight is way too useful to drop. You forgot about Onion Knight's crit % boost which helps with Zack's crit damage+, also Chris has OK's LMR so ditching OK means losing instant haste and wall. No to mention the cast time reduction on physical moves along with his doublecast celerity let's him build chain really fast with Ripping Blast.
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I got all the motes from the Demon Wall with a wind team, tried back row physical water at first but it couldn't get over that last 100,000 damage because of wail and hones running out. My healer was Selphie back then but the demon wall doesn't hit that hard and she often had meter to spare so I swapped her for Larsa since the interrupts during chains were a huge sink, then I found out the interrupts ignore astra *groan* Still I managed to do enough damage during that run with Bartz using Blast Strike during chain downtime to build meter and do a bunch of hits, though if I probably brought Relm first I probably would have gotten the motes the first run.

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Okay so I feel like I am just doing something flat out wrong on the earth 3 star magicite.

My team is Cloud/Zack/Wrathbot (morrow or some such), OK, Aerith

I have OK open with Pusb and have Morrow wrath it up and then give it to Cloud who USBs and then glints and then BSBs (cloud cycle) before opening a can of whoop ass. I have Zack LSing to get added wind weakness on the boss and then LSing again to start a chain.

Am I messing up this sequence because it feels like Cloud with these goodies should be able to knock him down before 30 seconds but I clocked in at 32.

Personally I'd swap Cloud for Bartz since you got his glint and AOSB, he doesn't need much meter in comparison since his glint is so good anyway and Snowspell Strike is way stronger than Cloud's BSB commands before he can break the damage cap. Also I wouldn't really bother with Zack's burst (I don't even use it in my sub30 Midgardsormr runs) I just use Zack for the chain and have him use Ripping Blast from then on to build the chain. Onion Knight can also use Ripping Blast if you have a second copy. Are you also making sure to dispel Golem's protect?
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Eh 2.0 feels much worse to prepare for, because of how limited you are and how it's much more realm and relic dependant than magicite is. While magicite was elemental restrictive you could farm them for espers with higher boosts and you could carry over certain characters for heals, boostga, entrusters ect or use characters like Bartz, Orlandeau and Sora that are strong in multiple elements, and I even if I missed a major USB or chain on a banner I still managed to figure out a way to sub30 all *4 with what I had up to then. With torment 2.0 's restrictions you get punished for bringing glue characters and have to rely on that realm's DPS, healer and boostgas on tough bosses, so there's a lot less leeway to work with and instead of thinking up strategies for how to beat these bosses it's become planning about what realm banners you need to invest in. These first two haven't been so bad because a lot of us have already invested in characters like Ramza, Orlandeau and Bartz and their fellow natives are strong supports to them but the next one is going to represent how awful Torment 2.0 truly is with 12 being an odd hodgepodge of characters that don't work so well together. You know we're in trouble when the best DPS Ashe is a burden against her team mates.

Also I know I'm in a minority but I still prefered FT torment farming and sub30 magicite for orbs and crystals, while it was more work it was more rewarding that daily dungeons since you could consistently get whichever orb/crystal you wanted any day of the week. Given a what a hone check D??? torment and *5 magicite are Dena shouldn't have taken those away.
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I'm surprised you didn't mention how power and fire are on the same day as well, those are the two most used crystals and you're forced to farm one of them once a week. Gotta love Dena for removing the sub30 crystals rewards from Magicite when we need them more than ever.

Anyone else feeling like the game is mostly empty these days? Like there's nothing to do besides daily dungeons now, weekly events are too easy and there's not really any major incentive to sub30 magicite since you can just beat the easiest one for Arcana and D??? torments are too much of investment for a gacha game with expensive pulls and are just pipe dreams for anyone besides major whales. 5* Magicite doesn't look like it's much better since I didn't get Galuf's chain my chances are low of even beating Quezacotl, and King Behemoth is going to be "Maria USB or GTFO!" until Rinoa/Red XIII/That grey haired lady from WoFF's relics come out.
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Sub30'd the first two Gilgamesh torments with Bartz, Dorgann, Galuf, Faris and Lenna. Pretty annoying how Gilgamesh keep refreshing his buff spells and Dorgann has to keep banishing strike him. First difficulty I had Dorgan use his burst for a party buff but Gilgamesh was doing a lot of damage early so I gave the mako might to Galuf and had him use his crit boosting super so Dorgann can dispel Gilgamesh's haste earlier and that went a lot better, I was almost capping even without attack buffs anyway (well unless you count Bartz' glint) Faris's BSB2 is actually really good in this fight as well.

FF12 is next and that one is gonna suck hard.
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Dammit that reminds me I probably won't be able to beat Quetzalcoatl early because I missed the two most important relics for him, but there's too many dupes now to risk another pull with gems. Ugggggh, looks like I have to hoard for the next FFV event for another chance at Galuf's chain.
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https://imgur.com/6AevF0Y
LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that