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Probably the best president in my lifetime behind Reagan.

Reagan
Trump
Obama = Bush Jr
Bush sr
Clinton

Trump not being PC is one of his best qualities outside of his great leadership and business skills

shokan_warrior posted...

alcohol ruins live

weed doesn't, the police does

Lol, imagine believing this. Anything addictive can ruin lives and weed is addictive

Thats because a wide margin more people drink so there is more chances for something to happen

The manson family was arrested with weed in their system. There was a person who would get high and eat babies. I mean, come on

I mean, why was the family arrested? Sounds like they gave him a safe space from an abusive father.

Its better to have some cherries than no cherries

frozenshock posted...

Meh. Using sex scandals against Trump doesn't work... Republicans will just reply with "but Bill Clinton."

Fuck it. From now on next time they accuse democrats of corruption we'll just reply with "but Nixon."

If they can say "but Clinton" we can say "but Nixon", no?

Then they can respond with "but jackson"

Meanwhile, the state everyone hates on, Kansas added over twice as much:

www.deptofnumbers.com/employment

People make mistakes. The last three presidents all admitted to drug use

That nerds get girlfriends let alone hot ones

gp1829 posted...

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gp1829 posted...

Hell Mark Sanchez still has a job

Nope. No one has signed him since his bench warming peds. And both the Bears and cowboys signed him more to mentor their rookie qbs than his physical talent.

The actual comparison you want to make is rgiii has a job. Though the Ravens were apparently looking to sign kaep before his gf decided to call the Ravens Gm or owner or both racist.

I completely forgot about the Sanchez PED thing. I just don't understand how people are acting like it is just his play that has him out if the league. If he was the exact same QB but didn't protest he would be signed as at least a backup.

What people who argue this dont understand is that a person who is a QB, essentially the face of the franchise, is creating a media circus which detriments the team. Is kaep starter material? Absolutely not but he would, imo, be a solid QB2. But who wamts to put up with the medias shit, especially as bad as it has been the last couple years.

Fuck him, he got what he deserved. Im willing to bet most people defending him dont even know the history of the story

Thats because enough funds are already there. Its called fiscal responsibilities

Kineth posted...

Suddenly? It's hilarious how Kaepernick haters suddenly pretend like they ever really watch the NFL.

To be fair, there is probably truth to this. I find the only people who really argue about kaep is ironically people who dont watch the nfl. Lol. I mean I do, I know he sucks but most people seem clueless

darkjedilink posted...

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Delirious_Beard posted...

would rather have him QB my team than bortles

Name one time where Bortles had a three-quarter game stat of 4 total yards.

He's better than most back up QBs and would have a job of not for the protest. He has enough talent to be in the league. Hell Mark Sanchez still has a job. He just isn't talented enough to sign with the circus it will bring.

4 yards in 3 quarters. Name one other QB in the Super Bowl era that has the same stat.

I mean its happened a couple times that QBs threw for negative yards in the superbowl era @darkjedilink

And who were they?

@darkjedilink

The last one was Jeff Garcia in 2004

darkjedilink posted...

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Delirious_Beard posted...

would rather have him QB my team than bortles

Name one time where Bortles had a three-quarter game stat of 4 total yards.

He's better than most back up QBs and would have a job of not for the protest. He has enough talent to be in the league. Hell Mark Sanchez still has a job. He just isn't talented enough to sign with the circus it will bring.

4 yards in 3 quarters. Name one other QB in the Super Bowl era that has the same stat.

I mean its happened a couple times that QBs threw for negative yards in the superbowl era @darkjedilink

Squidkids posted...

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Shuto-uke posted...

A gay trump supporter LMAO

why was that added?

Seriously. Trump is the very first person to be pro gay rights entering the presidency

He sued the nfl. He isnt going back. Plus he sucks lol

Tropicalwood posted...

Well there isn't much point to voting if you can't give a shit about basic policies.

People do it because people like being a part of somethinng bigger than themselves really.

hollow_shrine posted...

You think people didn't vote on policy? You don't actually know any/remember of the 2016 policy positions for the Dems or the GOP, do you?

Do you think the majority of people voted on policy? I feel like you are giving Americans too much credit. We may know sports and movies and stuff but politics is not something Americans typically know. You know its true

I guess what im saying is, and you are free to disagree, but if you just pick ten random people off the street, they arent just indifferent to trumps policies but indifferent to politics in general. At least Sanders, unlike Clinton, fired up the base(granted election year is when people pretend to care about politics so who knows if he could have kept that fire)

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SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

You know, when you think about it, Sanders offered A LOT that neither Clinton or Trump offer. I mean, if you cant get what you want, why vote towards two people you are indifferent to?

I would ask how could you be 'indifferent' to Trump's proposed policies. Because it sounds like you were simply unaware of what was actually at stake.

Im just speaking in the general sense. Im glad you have passion for politics but the average person doesnt care. So whether or not Trump or Hillary won at that point, nobody cared. Look at the politics board for instance and all they say is this russian stuff is gonna hurt him but the average person doesnt care about this russian stuff. The DNC needs to find a new message and certainly need a charasmatic person.

You know, when you think about it, Sanders offered A LOT that neither Clinton or Trump offer. I mean, if you cant get what you want, why vote towards two people you are indifferent too?

hollow_shrine posted...

But those superdelegates voted with the people they represented. Where is the disenfranchisement? Hillary did actually win the majority of votes during the democratic primary.

The disenfranchising comes from the superdelegates saying they were gonna go hillary no matter how the primaries went before the primaries. On top of that, we have the emails from wikileaks showing the DNC actively working against Sanders. On top of that, we have Debbie getting fired only to end up on the Clinton campaign team. Its very clear a lot of shady things happened.

There was a reason Hillary got heavily booed at her own event when the dnc was to declare her the nomination.

hollow_shrine posted...

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

Yeah but whats more important? To some people, sending that message is better in the long run if the dnc learns its lesson

That's their opinion, apparently. But they only hold it because their priorities are FUBAR and have no basis in reality.

Fubar?

iPhone_7 posted...

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What about superdelegates saying they were gonna put their points towards hillary regardless of how the vote turns out before primaries? That suggests they were bought or tainted. That shows the colors of the DNC. There is a reason Debbie got fired and ended up on the Hillary campaign after the primaries.

1. Superdelegates have the right to vote for whoever they want. The Democratic Party gives them that privilege in exchange for all the work they do to support the party.

2. Hillary had been their favorite pick to succeed Obama ever since he got elected. And even without their votes she still won and surpassed the nomination. You people act as though nobody actually voted for her, as if all those millions of people didnt actually support her.

Exactly. So why should i work with a party that actively disenfranchises voters? When superdelegates say they are gonna go hillary even if we go Sanders then its clear they arent caring about peoples interests.

The superdelegates are individuals who are free to talk their minds. You act as if each and every one of them stated they would vote against the partys choice.

They are but then the left cant complain when the dnc is disenfranchising its voters especially when complaining about the EC

Yeah but whats more important? To some people, sending that message is better in the long run if the dnc learns its lesson

iPhone_7 posted...

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

What about superdelegates saying they were gonna put their points towards hillary regardless of how the vote turns out before primaries? That suggests they were bought or tainted. That shows the colors of the DNC. There is a reason Debbie got fired and ended up on the Hillary campaign after the primaries.

1. Superdelegates have the right to vote for whoever they want. The Democratic Party gives them that privilege in exchange for all the work they do to support the party.

2. Hillary had been their favorite pick to succeed Obama ever since he got elected. And even without their votes she still won and surpassed the nomination. You people act as though nobody actually voted for her, as if all those millions of people didnt actually support her.

Exactly. So why should i work with a party that actively disenfranchises voters? When superdelegates say they are gonna go hillary even if we go Sanders then its clear they arent caring about peoples interests.

hollow_shrine posted...

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

i preferred Sanders over Clinton and a rebel vote is an acceptable protest for a convention that disenfranchises its voters and actively works unbiased such as scheduling debates during game of thrones and sunday night football

Sure, if you prioritize your protest over the likely, and deeply harmful, policy decisions of your opponents.

But if you rely on something like the ACA or some of your family is undocumented and looking for clear path to citizenship to prevent future deportation, you don't really have the luxury of that protest vote do you. And even if those policies didn't immediately effect you, I'll bet you personally know someone(s) who it would.

So, it's great that some people chose 'perfectly acceptable protest,' but contrasted with the impacts of letting the GOP dismantle the ACA, pass a ridiculous tax bill, steal at least one if not two (or even three) supreme court seats, and increase restrictions on immigration hitting both refugees and asylum seekers, those prioritizes seem more than a little divorced from material reality.

And two years in, I'm hoping that we've learned well enough to avoid repeating 2016's catastrophe.

We've already covered that all that is subjective. The justices, refugee issue, aca issue, etc is the definition of subjective.

What about superdelegates saying they were gonna put their points towards hillary regardless of how the vote turns out before primaries? That suggests they were bought or tainted. That shows the colors of the DNC. There is a reason Debbie got fired and ended up on the Hillary campaign after the primaries.

i preferred Sanders over Clinton and a rebel vote is an acceptable protest for a convention that disenfranchises its voters and actively works unbiased such as scheduling debates during game of thrones and sunday night football

hollow_shrine posted...

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

Thats not what i mean. Obviously the obama is a muslim thing is stupid. Im talking about things like how a president handles something like, as you brought up, deportations. Thats an opinion because there is no right or wrong answer about if it was handled right whereas you can dsmonstrate that obama isnt a muslim. Does that make sense?

It makes more sense, but there's still room to refine the point. There are measurable metrics we can draw (or will eventually be able to draw) from each administration's deportation policies. A great one to ask in 2015 was whether or not crime per capita dropped in those cities seeing most of the deportations. If so, consideration of other possible causes and further analysis of how those causes contribute to the status quo might give me an idea of how useful such a policy was for stopping crime and whether or not the cost of that policy is reflected in our results.

There are also those examples (Muslim travel ban, ACA repeal, and our recent interpretation of the border detainment policy) for whom the impact is immediate, and for whom you don't have to see their long term consequence to know you want it to end as soon as possible because the observable results are too unpleasant to be ethically or politically viable.

Some might not look at it about crime though and might instead look at it by the right to be here, cutting in line being wrong among other things.

wackyteen posted...

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

Msnbc aside, he never said that. He said a lot of people meddled.

They quite literally showed a clip of him being asked if Russians were still meddling and Trump responds with "No."

And you know the msnbc leans more heavy to the left than fox does to the right, right? Video clips can be used to take things out of context. The news does it all the time. Trump is literally on record saying russia meddled but so did other countries. That is what he is saying.

Msnbc aside, he never said that. He said a lot of people meddled.

Thats not what i mean. Obviously the obama is a muslim thing is stupid. Im talking about things like how a president handles something like, as you brought up, deportations. Thats an opinion because there is no right or wrong answer about if it was handled right whereas you can dsmonstrate that obama isnt a muslim. Does that make sense?

hollow_shrine posted...

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

What im saying is is that you arent happy with Trump and thats fine and dandy and is well within your right but its no more than an opinion. Half the countries opinion is that Trump is a fine president. Whose to say which side is right? Neither side should berate the other for an opinion

I don't argue for the sake of arguing. Not all opinions are valid. Come on. There are people out here insisting the goddamn planet is flat.

They are wrong, and they need to know that. Being incorrect is not a moral stain or something. Being wrong is often a necessary step to eventually being right. If instead they double down on their original stance, now they're not arguing in good faith and can no longer feel entitled to the rhetorical dignity arguing in good faith provides. They deserve ridicule. And when it comes to offices with the power of the presidency you can't let people choose their own facts. The consequences can last lifetimes.

If you took two seconds to consider your position from other perspectives, you wouldn't have posted this.

And the opinion that the earth is flat IS stupid and easily debunked and isnt comparable to the performance of either political party or Trump. Trumps performance IS subjective and there is no way to prove whether or not either side is right mostly because there is no answer: its literally just preference. Or do you forget people felt the same way about Obama, for instance, that you feel about Trump today?

What im saying is is that you arent happy with Trump and thats fine and dandy and is well within your right but its no more than an opinion. Half the countries opinion is that Trump is a fine president. Whose to say which side is right? Neither side should berate the other for an opinion

hollow_shrine posted...

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iPhone_7 posted...

Nobody cares about who you respect, especially since you support Trump.

And you supported Hillary. Both are pieces of shit so don't act you supported anyone that was any better.

You're still insisting on this false equivalency shit, like we chose the least of two evils? What is the Hillary Clinton analog to this administration's child separation policy? Who is her Steven Miller or Jeff Sessions? Who does Hillary Clinton appoint to lead the EPA and what kind of corruption does he or she get up to? What white supremacists does Hillary Clinton's national security adviser retweet. What kinds of justices does she appoint to the Supreme and lower circuit courts.

Do you get it? Do you understand what you're implying here?

Do you understand what subjectivity is?

The Top Crusader posted...

Democrats just have to run someone who appeals to the blue collar workers and they have the election in the bag. Hillary and/or Bernie won't do that. That's why we have the president we have now... it takes a really bad democrat candidate to lose basically *all* the blue collar union states. But then I think democrats don't want to admit a large part of that voter bloc that they usually have in the bag is also extremely racist, so they flocked to Trump as well as ran from Hillary.

Our president is decided by two things: 1) charisma which I think we can all agree Trump has more of than Hillary and 2) the country is a pendulum because people are never happy and the presidents party always gets the blame.

MedzXVIII posted...

Ask Trump supporters the same thing just replace Obama with Trump and see what happens

I mean, this could be said about both parties though.

How dare people have an opinion

She has too much baggage and incumbent presidents usually have the advantage and average people only care about the economy which is booming right now

the program already has been fully funded.

Its literally in your own link.

I wanted to be a doctor and then I became a doctor.

clearaflagrantj posted...

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

Dont worry, apartments will always find a way to keep your deposit

The clear plastic butter tray thing broke on my fridge just from regular use and they deducted $45 off my deposit for it

Lol, damn. Im shocked they even inspect something like that

Dont worry, apartments will always find a way to keep your deposit

Prosecutor edgeworth 2 probably is the best of the bunch. The whole game is basically one big case and the finally is easily the most amazing out of all the games

The actual secret to life is that it isnt what you know but who you know and you'll never do that in the basement

Obama was "allegedly" a reptilian