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TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Suprak the Stud
09/15/18 11:04:21 AM
#265
Corrik posted...
TotallyNotMI posted...
Hotel and Roanoke (5 and 6) were my favorite.

Cult (last year) was my least favorite.

But how can someone dislike Asylum?

Roanoke > Hotel >> Asylum > Murder House > Coven >>>> Freak Show > Cult

Asylum's first half was so much better than it's second half.


100% agree and that was why I didnt really like that season. I didnt hate it like carnival or coven though.

My other issue was it felt so disconnected. They needed to focus on like two fewer storylines and flesh out the more interesting plots they had.

Also they had a six minute rendition of the name game.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Suprak the Stud
09/14/18 9:13:06 PM
#257
I liked the first season of AHS, disliked asylum, hated coven, and couldnt even finish carnival.

Are there any season I should give another chance to since then y/n?
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 192: Manafort and a Storm
Suprak the Stud
09/14/18 9:07:43 PM
#10
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Credit where its due: Trump is using his Twitter responsibly today, doing nothing but sharing important information for people in the path of Florence.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1040730663832498176

whoops


And it was going so well for like 17 hours too!

womp womp

Just 19 hours ago he tweeted about John Kerry "illegally meeting with Iran"


That doesnt really disprove my point of Trump has never done anything constructive with his Twitter before this tho
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Moops?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 191: Hey Now, You're a Lodestar
Suprak the Stud
09/14/18 5:00:29 PM
#485
Jakyl25 posted...
Credit where its due: Trump is using his Twitter responsibly today, doing nothing but sharing important information for people in the path of Florence.


This is the first good use of his Twitter platform since...well, ever.
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Moops?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 191: Hey Now, You're a Lodestar
Suprak the Stud
09/14/18 4:50:24 PM
#480
Im not sure everyone fully understands how crazy the rape allegations against Trump were that Corrik is referring to so Im going to post this again because it still is crazy to me. Heres some good investigative journalism from Anna Merlan at Jezebel. When she refused to run the story without first taking to the accuser, they refused to produce her and ultimately wound up sending aggressive and threatening text messages to her because she refused to run the story they wanted.

Also worth noting the people pushing this were conservative donors, not liberals, and it first occurred during the republican primaries, not the presidential race.

https://jezebel.com/heres-how-that-wild-lawsuit-accusing-trump-of-raping-a-1782447083

https://jezebel.com/the-source-pushing-the-trump-rape-lawsuits-may-not-be-w-1783270283

My call with Taylor didnt end pleasantly. I think youre a piece of shit and you can suck my dick, bitch, he concluded. He then hung up.

Later that night into early the next morning, something unusual happened: I received about 26 calls from a blocked number. The caller hung up as soon as I answered. The calls couldnt be traced, according to my phone company. I received a few more calls from a blocked number the following day before they stopped.

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Moops?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 191: Hey Now, You're a Lodestar
Suprak the Stud
09/14/18 4:36:46 PM
#479
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032256443985084417?s=20

*record scratch*

Sometimes, life comes at you fast.
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Moops?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 191: Hey Now, You're a Lodestar
Suprak the Stud
09/11/18 1:35:13 PM
#31
I feel like Jakyl is wasting his talents here.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/11/18 1:12:25 AM
#496
HarrietTubgirl posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Afaik there's actually bipartisan support for criminal justice reform in at least the Senate, but Mitch has always let a few people who really oppose it (like Sessions) keep it off the docket.

I doubt very much any prison reform deals actually address the cash bail system or disenfranchisement from a philosophical standpoint though. I would heartily fight for a constitutional amendment to eliminate those practices, if needed. My dream amendments:

1. End cash bail/disenfranchisement of felons
2. Lock the SCOTUS seats to 9 maximum
3. Change voting and draft age to 25


1. Love this idea and yeah I feel like it should be common sense.
2. Love this idea and that is how a lot of non-American democracies do it (not 9 specifically but I do think that is a fairly good term limit otherwise you have people like RBG/Scalia on there until they are well past their intellectual prime).
3. I don't agree with this. Your argument for "full developed brains" isn't necessarily bad, but we let 85 year olds vote. We let people who think Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy vote. I think 21 is old enough to at least understand the issues if they try. There are plenty of people less acute than 21 year olds voting.

2/3 not bad for someone I previously thought I had almost nothing in common with other than a hatred of Trump two years ago tbqh
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Moops?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/10/18 1:24:56 AM
#457
Oh, nice. Nice

I somehow didn't notice the Facebook link in the article literally says "over a year ago" for the time stamp. And that its dated from 2017. "Oops"

LotM you are a hero.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/09/18 11:41:21 PM
#455
Steve King is likely the worst politician in America, a horrendous human being, and an open and proud racist. It isn't hard to be better than Steve King.

Like I am legitimately miffed that this lunatic is the best the Democrats could do.

The old 5th had a Cook Partisan Voting Index of R+9, while the new 4th has a PVI of R+4.
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That's King's district in 2012. And the democrats nominated an insane person in a democratic cycle. Unacceptable.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/09/18 11:38:01 PM
#453
She's better than Steve King. You can say that because it is true.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/09/18 11:34:46 PM
#450
I can guarantee there will never be psychics because I've seen into the future and there weren't any there.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/09/18 11:30:01 PM
#448
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
Psychics have to know they arent psychic because being psychic isnt real thus they cant be getting psychic insight.

I mean shes either a scammer or mentally deranged.


Are psychics demonstrably less real than Pastors who claim God speaks to them?


If anyone comes up to you and says "God spoke to me and I'll tell you what he said for a low low price of $19.99" then that person is also either a scammer or mentally deranged. A lot of televangelists are definitely scammers as well, I wouldn't disagree with that.

But being psychic isn't real. It isn't. There are no psychics. There never will be psychics. Every attempt at claiming psychic powers has been disproved with science. Psychics are scammers or insane. If you claim to be a psychic, you are a bad person and you should be chased out of civil society.

She's still better than an open racist though! Like not even a competition. I'd take a scammer over a white supremacist 10 out of 10 times. It's just a shame that this is who managed to get the democratic nomination.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/09/18 10:57:20 PM
#443
I mean there plenty of people who are Democrats AND scammers.

Shes still a thousand times better than an actual white supremacist though! I have no idea how the Democrats couldnt cobble together a better candidate than this though.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/09/18 10:46:54 PM
#441
Psychics have to know they arent psychic because being psychic isnt real thus they cant be getting psychic insight.

I mean shes either a scammer or mentally deranged.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 1:54:30 PM
#291
Corrik posted...
Corrik posted...
I am willing to expand my views. But expand them. Don't shun me.

Jesus I was drunk


Somehow it took me after your third incoherent post to realize that. I did laugh out loud that you did an AMA and I asked you to name some politicians you liked and you were acting like it was the most complex question anyone had ever asked you.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 1:34:56 AM
#268
Where he was played by Paul Giamatti.

I REST MY CASE
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 1:32:36 AM
#266
MacDonald was no Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, or Franklin tho. He was maybe an Adams and Americans don't have particularly strong feelings towards Adams either.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:29:20 AM
#242
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/1037807915552464896?s=21

Some fun excerpts from Alex Jones harassing Jack Dorsey (and others)


I've seen a lot of people complaining that Jones being kicked off of Twitter is an attack on right wing media outlets and free speech and etc etc etc.

And either these people literally have never watched Alex Jones before, or the right wing of American politics is much further gone than I ever anticipated. Like if you view Alex Jones as "right wing" and not "insane rambling conspiracy theorist" I don't know what that says about your party.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:27:22 AM
#239
Corrik are you drunk?
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:23:56 AM
#234
Five was just a random number. Just list some you really like.

And either in office or could reasonably be believed to make a run for office in the near future.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:23:03 AM
#233
Reconstruction had ramifications, yes, but I don't think many people would put Johnson in their "really good politician" list. He's routinely ranked worst or one of the worst Presidents by most historians.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:21:47 AM
#231
Yeah, active. Like politicians that are actively still doing things and are either in office or could run for it.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:18:30 AM
#228
I mean it was a more of a "which current politicians do you like" sort of question, I didn't really want you to rank them. Just give me five you like.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:17:51 AM
#227
...I said active.

.........

.................and one of your top five politicians ALL TIME is Andrew Johnson?
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/07/18 12:06:25 AM
#220
Corrik posted...
Bacholers of Arts degrees can vary in great lengths. Why would it specify in 20th century politics instead of my ancient history degree in which that it did?


I dunno I just thought it was common knowledge and the fact that I knew you had a history degree just made me think you probably had a general interest in history. Just surprised me you wouldn't have heard of him before.

Name your top five active American politicians.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 11:58:34 PM
#214
Corrik posted...
I still don't know who he is besides he wrote a book. Why is that weird? Did you all know who he is on the fly beforehand?


This is bonkers crazy.

He was one of the two reporters who broke Watergate. Dont you have a history B.A.?
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 10:09:12 PM
#182
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
Wasnt psaltery a Trump supporter? Whats with his turn on Devos?


Psaltry is a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

Probably Deep State fears or something idk


DEEP STATE

I was just curious if she had done something to upset the alt right that I wasnt aware about. Apparently not!
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 7:47:58 PM
#178
Wasnt psaltery a Trump supporter? Whats with his turn on Devos?
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 4:22:38 PM
#218
Is IGCD normally abrasive? I've never seen him be anything other than pleasant.

Maybe Gran just really likes punching faces.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 3:51:16 PM
#215
I also have no idea how that could be anyone's favorite game. There were three scum partners that posted zero times in three full cycles and the host just wouldn't find a replacement.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 3:47:43 PM
#214
<_<

That is an egregiously wrong characterization.

The scum team all quit in protest like the day before that because of how badly that game was set up. There was only one guy on our team who still wanted to play. I can't remember who that was though!
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 2:02:11 PM
#209
Hm.

Off board I had a ton of fun with Harry Potter mash. We had a strong town core than was wrecking scum up until we all died and the last two scum members ran through like eight straight days without getting lynched.

On board probably gravy's whatever anime thing it was mafia where we had the MEGA MASONS and I actually found a legitimate scum slip. Chris' how to win at mafia mafia was really good too, and Valve Mafia over on CE was another really good setup.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/06/18 1:02:12 AM
#132
psaltery posted...
Obellisk posted...
probably used the word lodestar as a decoy


Perhaps, but then it would be to finger Pence so that Trump would force him to resign. No, I think it is more likely that Pence wrote it himself. He must go if true. Along with all the other McCain lovers.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lodestar-mike-pence-anonymous-new-york-times_us_5b905dd5e4b0511db3dec1e1


I'm not saying it is Pence, but whoever did this clearly has some sort of future political ambitions. It makes ZERO sense to go "hey guys I'm working against the president" because saying so makes it known that someone is working against the president and undermines what you were trying to do in the first place. I assume someone like Mattis often works against the president, or at least tries to reign in his wilder ideas, but he also strikes me as someone smart enough to not go and jump up and down and demand attention for doing so.

If this is authentic, which I have no reason to believe it is not, then the person doing this wants to be able to cash in at some point in the future when Trumpism has passed and go "AHA SEE I WAS ONE OF YOU!" more so than they actually want to accomplish anything with their "resistance".
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/04/18 6:33:39 PM
#51
Palin as VP got him Republican support but lost him independents and independently minded Dems.

It probably didn't matter in the slightest though. That was a terrible time for Republicans due to the crashing economy and a huge downturn of support for Bush anything related to him. McCain, for as good a candidate as he was and as positive as he was viewed, did not stand a chance.

Obama was also incredibly popular, an incredible orator, and provided a sharp contrast to the previous 8 years. I honestly don't think any Republican candidate there does that much better than McCain.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/04/18 4:55:16 PM
#32
Ah I am bad at reading tone sometimes.

OOPS now I'm the foolish one
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/04/18 4:50:19 PM
#27
And here he is from 2015 before Trump was a thing (article is from after healthcare vote but it cites previous polls):

https://news.gallup.com/poll/215897/mccain-favorability-healthcare-vote.aspx

49% favorable rating in 2015. Literally only three points lower than in 2008. Democrats might just respect war heroes regardless of their politic positions.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/04/18 4:47:42 PM
#25
HashtagSEP posted...
I mean I already block him so I'm fine with just doing that, but I'm also fine with just not having politics topics anymore, too

Your call guys


Why would you end the politics topics just because one person is posting here? I LIKE THESE TOPICS.

Just scroll down and ignore things you don't want to respond to! Or put whoever it is on ignore and go about your day! Don't blow up the entire series.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 190: Slightly Erotic Politics
Suprak the Stud
09/04/18 4:46:17 PM
#24
I've seen the falsehood spread that Democrats only now like McCain because something something Trump something something.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/105073/mccains-67-favorable-rating-highest-eight-years.aspx

Gallup poll from 2008, in the midst of the campaign. He polls over 50 percent favorable with Democrats.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
09/03/18 5:00:49 PM
#434
Jeff Sessions has at least done a good job remaining impartial, so of course that is what Trump is going to criticize him on.

He's literally arguing here that Republicans shouldn't be held to the same standards. He isn't even arguing they're innocent (I mean, he can't because they clearly aren't). Just "jeez we were going to win this and you're being a DORK and a NERD by insisting republicans who commit crimes are charged with crimes".

I feel like if Obama suggested something a tenth as direct as this, Fox News would have openly fomented insurrection.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football League 2018
Suprak the Stud
09/03/18 2:40:39 PM
#190
Well if you'd stop holding the league hostage with your outrageous demands for a yahoo only league, I could change it.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicThe Best Board 8 Fantasy Football League 2018
Suprak the Stud
09/03/18 1:14:54 PM
#187
All I care about is that I hope Corrik sees the error of his ways and doesn't force us to use Yahoo next year.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
09/01/18 1:41:07 AM
#402
I always appreciate red sox's contributions.

I just think this last series of posts would be better in the "violently scrawled across a chalk board in some viscous substance that I really hope is not blood" format as it loses something in just plain text like this.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
08/31/18 11:42:19 PM
#379
WE OUGHTA *takes deep drag from inhaler* TAKE OVER YER COUNTRY AND *wipes sweat from brow* ANNEX EVERY BIT OF LAND SOUTH OF *pants, clenches chest* YUKON
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
08/31/18 4:12:59 PM
#359
Jakyl25 posted...
red sox 777 posted...
So you can attack them for reporting it.


Or in this case attack them for leaking it, I guess

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1035597354395680774?s=21

Wow, I made OFF THE RECORD COMMENTS to Bloomberg concerning Canada, and this powerful understanding was BLATANTLY VIOLATED. Oh well, just more dishonest reporting. I am used to it. At least Canada knows where I stand!


Can you call something dishonest reporting if you basically admit to saying it one sentence before? *thinking face emoji*
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
08/31/18 12:50:27 PM
#333
xp1337 posted...
Added context to that: The lawyer in question is Bruce Ohr, who Trump has gone after on Twitter as recently as... yesterday? The day before? I swear I saw him do so the past few days.


Fox News was going after him recently as well, although I wasn't sure why until now!
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicMafia and "Stuff" General: Let There Be Blood and "Stuff"
Suprak the Stud
08/31/18 3:02:31 AM
#173
WE DEMAND SIGN UPS NOW

Rabble rabble rabble rabble!
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
08/30/18 11:31:05 PM
#314
Eddv posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
This is true, and additionally, the later steps are more spread out. First five are like once every year while the next are every other and the final I think is like four years.


My point that you seem to be missing is that like....someone who comes on at Grade 5 cannot reach say grade 10 without switching jobs which may involve education requirements and such that they lack.


That's true, but in many cases they can reach grade 6. There are education requirements for a lot of jobs, but if you are a grade 5 level 10 that means you have been in that position for roughly 15 years and during that time you could've gotten your GED. So you start at a grade 11 with a PhD, a 9 with a masters, a 7 with college and work experience, a 5 with college, and down at a 1 (or at least some level below a 5) without that. Obviously degrees are going to make your more likely to advance in the work force, but for a lot of these positions there are no specific requirements like that to advance ONLY to where you start. My wife started as a 7 even though she had her masters, but now she's a 12 and she doesn't have a PhD. There are multiple people she works with who are 13s and 14s who only have a college degree.

Now are people who don't have a high school education or failed to complete college less likely to advance. Almost certainly so, but I feel like they'd have a hard time getting jobs that have steady advancement or routine pay raises in the private sector too.

I think we're debating two different things. You seem to be arguing that stopping cost of living increases is a bad thing, which I agree with for plenty of reasons (not the least of which is "we can't afford it even though we just gave extremely wealthy individuals a permanent tax cut and that is killing our budget). I also think this is a bad thing that is going to negatively impact government employees for seemingly no reason.

I was specifically pointing out that "this is a pay freeze for all federal employees" isn't entirely true. The majority of employees are likely going to continue to see pay raises in amounts much greater than the cost of living adjustment.
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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."
TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
08/30/18 8:05:53 PM
#294
Eddv posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
Federal employees still get their "step increase" in pay. So they are on steps anywhere from 1 to 15 or so. There are huge pay increases from level to level and represent actual promotions. However, even if you aren't promoted in a year, you get a step increase. So someone who is an 11 level 1 will become an 11 level 2 assuming satisfactory performance. These are much higher than the cost of living increase. For example 11-1 to 11-2 at base pay (not including locality costs) is a $1800 increase for the year. Normally, you'd get the $500 or so on top of that for cost of living, so it is a definite hit but again it isn't like wages are truly frozen.


Keep in mind that many people have maxed out their steps - career people.


This is true, and additionally, the later steps are more spread out. First five are like once every year while the next are every other and the final I think is like four years.

Of course, steps reset upon promotion (although not all the way back to 1 depending on your pay), so people who aren't getting step increases have been at the same spot for fifteen years or so without getting a promotion. These are a small portion of the overall group, and are either in some portion of bureaucracy that doesn't have a lot of upward movement, are a high level position that do not have a lot of openings above them (there are few 13, 14, and 15s for examples) so they're already making a lot of money, or they aren't "great" at their job because no promotion in 15 years is kinda crazy.

It definitely isn't a great thing for people who have been working in governmental agencies their entire lives. But it also isn't a total pay freeze like some people were suggesting, and there are still level and step pay increases that represent a much bigger chunk of cash.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 189: Flip or Flop
Suprak the Stud
08/30/18 7:07:26 PM
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Did she think people were just going to go "no ma'am sorry ma'am I didn't realize what I was saying ma'am"? Like what even is best case scenario for her here?
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