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Topic	French Police Threaten to join protestors, demand better pay + conditions
Anti-245 12/21/18 4:34:31 AM #107	OprahJimfrey posted... Anti-245 posted... OprahJimfrey posted... Man, Macron really is the worst world leader, huh? No, American leaders were/are much worse. The French just don't have a settler colonialist mindset like Americans. They're still plagued by imperialism but this rebellion seems to highlight those issues. For example, you'll prob never see Americans have a mass movement that has any detail on settler colonialism in the near future. Probably because most Americans have a job. That doesn't stop protests that are already going on at the moment so that point is bunk. :/ If you want to lick boots this bad, at least try harder. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Trump signs bill where Americans MUST get JOBS to get FOOD STAMPS!!
Anti-245 12/21/18 4:26:12 AM #88	Most people who are on ebt cards already work so this is just unnecessary on the war on the poor by these neoliberals. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	French Police Threaten to join protestors, demand better pay + conditions
Anti-245 12/21/18 4:17:40 AM #105	OprahJimfrey posted... Man, Macron really is the worst world leader, huh? No, American leaders were/are much worse. The French just don't have a settler colonialist mindset like Americans. They're still plagued by imperialism but this rebellion seems to highlight those issues. For example, you'll prob never see Americans have a mass movement that has any detail on settler colonialism in the near future. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Universal Basic Income is the future
Anti-245 12/21/18 3:50:15 AM #71	We should all be glad that wage labor is on its way out but that doesn't mean that neofeudalism should take its place --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	French Police Threaten to join protestors, demand better pay + conditions
Anti-245 12/21/18 3:39:11 AM #101	Kineth posted... Anti-245 posted... Kineth posted... Look, I'm talking about economic theory, not how people committed atrocities for their centrally planned governments and 5 year plans which all started out as promises of better things, but ended up instilling fascist economies through the power-hungry nature of the respective countries' ruling parties. Those economies were not doing well before the Soviets. It's just very easy to seize power when your people are hungry and have just been through war. Either way, it going bad once or twice doesn't mean it will go bad every single time or that that's how it's supposed to even happen... whatever. You're not teaching me new things with this history lesson is my point. I know about the atrocities committed and I think communism is a red herring, pun intended. We could have prevented Vietnam from becoming Communist and could have got a good footing in the Pacific Theater had we not been getting a healthy dose of that Red Scare from Joe McCarthy, but also if FDR hadn't have kept that secret operation hidden from Truman.... Like.. I get it. Authoritarian states are horrible and so are authoritarian economies. What part of the Manifesto, LaSallean economics or Das Kapital is concerned with such ideas of central planning and overarching governance? Like, the best criticism you can have for Communism is that it is too disorganized and needs to compromise itself and coexist with another economic system, much in the same way that capitalism and socialism already do. But you guys spend time talking about war history in an economics discussion... and act like it's the first fucking time any of us have heard about world history. I mean, fuck dude. You're conflating way too many things, which is why it's confusing. Socialism and capitalism can never coexist because one is the negation of the other. Nation states tend to always be authoritarian. It's just in their nature to do if they want any sort of life. To me, it's why the phrase "liberal democracy" makes no sense. You're wrong and right at the same time. Capitalism can never exist if we adhere to the notion that any regulations on an economy hinders the free market. By that merit, people need to give up the idea that they've ever seen a capitalist economy in their life. This is hyperbole, don't worry. Socialism as it is seems to be poorly understood is using a part of the collected generated wealth/income in the country to place market floors into the S/D curve and so forth and are only issues when they start becoming about unessential goods. I consider health care and education to be essential goods, much in the same way that I consider clean water and running electricity and well kept roads to be things. None of these ideas are somehow foreign to "capitalism", as they shouldn't be. You're right that they can't coexist under those names, but you're wrong about them being unable to coexist. Mixed economies are a thing. These notions of pure economies are laughable. Like the US is some laissez-faire masterpiece. That's just state capitalism with a dash of neoliberal frame working. That has nothing to do with socialism. If you're actually looking for a type of "market socialism", you should look into mutualism. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Is USA Troops pulling out of Syria a WIN for RUSSIA?
Anti-245 12/21/18 3:33:45 AM #11	CADE FOSTER posted... Russia gains a foothold in the middle east we look weak win win for Putin and his puppet trump Who is this "we"? American imperialism has consequences even back here. Are you saying you just want a bigger piece of the imperial pie? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Is USA Troops pulling out of Syria a WIN for RUSSIA?
Anti-245 12/21/18 3:32:25 AM #10	It should be a win for all the people the U.S. bombed in syria tbh. Now, they need to get out of the other nations as well. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	'if you don't follow a cop's orders, your ass deserves to get shot' - roommate
Anti-245 12/21/18 3:24:59 AM #66	Your roommate is a terrified boot licker from the sounds of it. Submit to unjustified authority or be shot, is it? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	French Police Threaten to join protestors, demand better pay + conditions
Anti-245 12/21/18 3:23:21 AM #99	Kineth posted... MuayThai85 posted... averagejoel posted... MuayThai85 posted... India. Worse off economically than China d during the same period. Didn't see millions of people die from starvation. jesus christ dude read a book or something Maybe you should read a history book on the successes of communism. Oh wait, you can't, there aren't any successes. Kineth posted... Questionmarktarius posted... How can communism be theft when the state owns everything, including you? How can communism be theft if the workers are directly seeing the fruits of their labor? Also, how can communism be decentralized while being centrally planned? How can communism be a workers revolution if the state is heavily involved? How can communism be all the things it's not supposed to be and still be communism? I haven't been paying attention to the arguments in this topic, though I found it laughable that communism got brought up in this mess. The only theft that would be taking place under socialism or communism is from those who have conglomerated their power and the means of production. The thing about that is that they are the ones who were doing the theft originally. And it's no surprise to me that the ones who are vehemently opposed to communism, and likely socialism, are the least informed about what they speak of. Not necessarily true. All those landowners who were executed during the great leap forward so that the government can take their land hadn't stole it. Most purchased it legally. Look, I'm talking about economic theory, not how people committed atrocities for their centrally planned governments and 5 year plans which all started out as promises of better things, but ended up instilling fascist economies through the power-hungry nature of the respective countries' ruling parties. Those economies were not doing well before the Soviets. It's just very easy to seize power when your people are hungry and have just been through war. Either way, it going bad once or twice doesn't mean it will go bad every single time or that that's how it's supposed to even happen... whatever. You're not teaching me new things with this history lesson is my point. I know about the atrocities committed and I think communism is a red herring, pun intended. We could have prevented Vietnam from becoming Communist and could have got a good footing in the Pacific Theater had we not been getting a healthy dose of that Red Scare from Joe McCarthy, but also if FDR hadn't have kept that secret operation hidden from Truman.... Like.. I get it. Authoritarian states are horrible and so are authoritarian economies. What part of the Manifesto, LaSallean economics or Das Kapital is concerned with such ideas of central planning and overarching governance? Like, the best criticism you can have for Communism is that it is too disorganized and needs to compromise itself and coexist with another economic system, much in the same way that capitalism and socialism already do. But you guys spend time talking about war history in an economics discussion... and act like it's the first fucking time any of us have heard about world history. I mean, fuck dude. You're conflating way too many things, which is why it's confusing. Socialism and capitalism can never coexist because one is the negation of the other. Nation states tend to always be authoritarian. It's just in their nature to do if they want any sort of life. To me, it's why the phrase "liberal democracy" makes no sense. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	My ass is a lot like the Trump administration
Anti-245 12/21/18 3:03:41 AM #15	TheGoldenEel posted... rotating door policy --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Trilogies where the 2nd one is the worst?
Anti-245 12/20/18 10:48:57 PM #12	The prequel Star Wars films --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Colleges are putting tampons in mens bathrooms. "Men menstrate too!"
Anti-245 12/20/18 12:39:41 AM #39	Such a useless distraction. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	American consumerist mentality
Anti-245 12/20/18 12:14:34 AM #1	Was consumerism a guarantee in American given its past history(note: I'm not saying that consumerism is strictly an American phenomenon. Rather, whether conditions from its founding gave it more assistance than necessary to take hold of the society) ? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/20/18 12:09:31 AM #96	Here's a list of democratic socialists for @FLUFFYGERM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism Intellectuals and activists Billy Bragg Bertrand Russell, British philosopher[239] John Dewey[citation needed] Barbara Ehrenreich[citation needed] Albert Einstein, German-born physicist[240][241] who wrote about his political views in a 1949 article titled Why Socialism? Erich Fromm[citation needed] Michael Harrington[citation needed] Mahatma Gandhi Christopher Hitchens[242] Mary Harris Jones[citation needed] Mario Bunge[citation needed] Owen Jones[243] Helen Keller[citation needed] Martin Luther King, Jr., African-American civil rights leader[244][245][246] Naomi Klein[247] Rosa Luxemburg[citation needed] Lawrence O'Donnell, American political analyst[citation needed] George Orwell, English novelist[248] Andrei Sakharov, Soviet physicist, dissident and human rights activist[249] Roger Waters[250] Harry S. Weeks IV, notable political activist and founder of the Wheeling, West-Virginia, Democratic-Socialist Union Cornel West[citation needed] Richard D. Wolff[251] Howard Zinn[252] Yanis Varoufakis, former Greek finance --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/20/18 12:01:16 AM #93	Anti-245 posted... PleaseClap posted... Anti-245 posted... PleaseClap posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... And note that he died in 1955, well before he could see the horrors of the 20th century Socialist experiments in the Soviet Union, Ukraine, Romania, China, etc. When does proudclad think that the Soviet Union was formed? The Soviet Union had purges beginning with its inception due to unrest(similar conditions were also present after the American Revolution). The west knew about it. In fact some commentators drummed up the red scare in our country to purge people they didn't like. Most of them didn't care at the time though. Yes, I know that. My point is, by 1955, the USSR is not some new, fledging country. The great purges and holomdor and whatnot are decades in the past at this point Yeah, and? Einstein wasn't a Marxist Leninist so what's your point? The west already knew what happened in Russia. It happens in every revolution when a regime takes power. It happened in the United States back the late 18th century too or have you forgotten that as well? Whoops that you were the other guy. Disregard this comment. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/20/18 12:00:27 AM #91	PleaseClap posted... Anti-245 posted... PleaseClap posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... And note that he died in 1955, well before he could see the horrors of the 20th century Socialist experiments in the Soviet Union, Ukraine, Romania, China, etc. When does proudclad think that the Soviet Union was formed? The Soviet Union had purges beginning with its inception due to unrest(similar conditions were also present after the American Revolution). The west knew about it. In fact some commentators drummed up the red scare in our country to purge people they didn't like. Most of them didn't care at the time though. Yes, I know that. My point is, by 1955, the USSR is not some new, fledging country. The great purges and holomdor and whatnot are decades in the past at this point Yeah, and? Einstein wasn't a Marxist Leninist so what's your point? The west already knew what happened in Russia. It happens in every revolution when a regime takes power. It happened in the United States back the late 18th century too or have you forgotten that as well? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:54:29 PM #82	Futhermore he seems to lack a basic understanding of world history as if the Wes post 1945 was what it was always like. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:52:27 PM #80	PleaseClap posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... And note that he died in 1955, well before he could see the horrors of the 20th century Socialist experiments in the Soviet Union, Ukraine, Romania, China, etc. When does proudclad think that the Soviet Union was formed? The Soviet Union had purges beginning with its inception due to unrest(similar conditions were also present after the American Revolution). The west knew about it. In fact some commentators drummed up the red scare in our country to purge people they didn't like. Most of them didn't care at the time though. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:48:20 PM #73	FLUFFYGERM posted... Paper_Okami posted... this guy clearly accomplished nothing of being that he is a commie "I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society." Albert Einstein https://www.cnet.com/news/stephen-hawking-says-we-should-be-more-frightened-of-capitalism-than-robots/ appeal to authority. just because einstein produced good work in physics and was known as an authority there does not mean he was good at economics And note that he died in 1955, well before he could see the horrors of the 20th century Socialist experiments in the Soviet Union, Ukraine, Romania, China, etc. Nonsense, soviet purges in the 20s-30s were well known in the west. They just didn't care because the soviets weren't as big of a threat, so that's historical revisionism. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:46:42 PM #72	And he was also a communist. :P --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:42:48 PM #68	FLUFFYGERM posted... Paper_Okami posted... I don't even consider myself a follower of Marx, more a follow of this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kropotkin I'll check him out. Seems worth a read. Per the wikipedia link I'm glad he at least dispenses with Marx's unbelievably stupid "surplus value" argument. What are his thoughts on the role of profit until such a future when money and capital serve no more purpose due to us living in a Star Trek world? Is he against it? Lol Kropotkin didn't like wage slavery either. He just thought the state protected private property more so than workers' surplus value being extracted as the cause. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:34:59 PM #61	@Paper_Okami, just leave this guy alone. He has no interest in an honest discussion. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:31:48 PM #58	averagejoel posted... based on the half of this exchange that I can see, I'm getting a good kick out of it The guy is mixing Maoism and MLism with orthodox Marxism then lays on some American revisionist history and expects to be taken seriously. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:30:14 PM #56	FLUFFYGERM posted... Paper_Okami posted... neither am I but how does that matter if you are mentioning things that happened long before that? because those other things ive read about Paper_Okami posted... yeah mean like the French and American revolutions? Are you okay with those? American revolution? hell yeah. completely different set of circumstances. they were fighting for independence from an invading force that wanted taxation without representation. commies rising up and killing innocent people to take their earned wealth and to institute Marx's envisioned dictatorship (he literally called for a proletarian dictatorship, using those words) is completely vile. Americans were fighting for the rights to native land and perpetual slavery of African people. This just confirms it for me. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:29:00 PM #53	Paper_Okami posted... Anti-245 posted... Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... nd they were following the principles left behind by Marx, Engels, etc they were not No Gulags are not okay and they are not okay in Marx's book either. I don't even consider myself a follower of Marx, more a follow of this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kropotkin What do you think of balkunin? haven't read him yet You should. He has some good foresights on future leftism. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:23:01 PM #44	Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... nd they were following the principles left behind by Marx, Engels, etc they were not No Gulags are not okay and they are not okay in Marx's book either. I don't even consider myself a follower of Marx, more a follow of this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kropotkin What do you think of balkunin? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:17:47 PM #39	Tmaster148 posted... So when are TC and proudclad going fuck each other? Im actually thinking that proudclad is a sort of accelerationist. No one could be so dense about neoliberialism. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 11:02:17 PM #26	His neoliberal dream of the market and competition fixing the world when the opposite has happened. It's plunged the global south in such instability the world has never seen, taken the U.S. and destroyed its manufacturing base, etc. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:59:29 PM #25	Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @Paper_Okami are you actually a commie in the year of our lord 2018 or just trolling i'm literally a member of DSA and literally a member of their LSC caucus (Libertarian socialism) are you literally a libertarian in 2018 or are you just trolling? i'm literally interviewing for a position with union organizing tomorrow. why do you follow Karl Marx buddy? why do you follow ayn rand? you answer first buddy what are your thoughts on violently seizing the means of production and executing anyone who doesn't join the effort? (ie literally what Marx said) Why should a few people own the means of production? First flaw is that seizing them doesn't have to be violent(Marx literally said this). It's just he doesn't see it happening or later developed to see that it couldn't happens through the parliament. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:55:03 PM #21	FLUFFYGERM posted... Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @Paper_Okami are you actually a commie in the year of our lord 2018 or just trolling i'm literally a member of DSA and literally a member of their LSC caucus (Libertarian socialism) are you literally a libertarian in 2018 or are you just trolling? i'm literally interviewing for a position with union organizing tomorrow. why do you follow Karl Marx buddy? why do you follow ayn rand? you answer first buddy what are your thoughts on violently seizing the means of production and executing anyone who doesn't join the effort? (ie literally what Marx said) More proof of your communist ways. Why don't you admit to it? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Can someone help me figure out this word?
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:53:54 PM #7	Colonialist? Imperialist? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:48:34 PM #18	@FLUFFYGERM, admit it, you're a undercover communist with sloppy praxis. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:46:05 PM #16	Calwings posted... They didn't turn him into a cute anime girl, so I'm not gonna bother watching. Ha, she'd be reading Das Kapital or Socialism: Utopian and Scientific. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Myths about the war of 1812
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:40:40 PM #14	UnholyMudcrab posted... Nobody knows enough about the War of 1812 for there to be widespread myths I guess except the whole thing about "Canadians" burning Washington I suppose another myth added to list. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:37:48 PM #13	PleaseClap posted... Christ, it doesnt take a lot to set him off, does it? Communist! Communist! Communliist! Commbulist! Combalist! Globalist! --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Karl Marx anime coming soon
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:30:37 PM #12	Paper_Okami posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... @Paper_Okami are you actually a commie in the year of our lord 2018 or just trolling i'm literally a communist. There, fixed it. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Myths about the war of 1812
Anti-245 12/19/18 10:26:31 PM #1	Let's go. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Would you vote for this guy in 2020?
Anti-245 12/19/18 6:53:06 AM #40	lincoln002 posted... He makes a lot of sense. He has 3 major propositions: 1. Universal basic income of 1,000 per adult 2. Medicare for all 3. Value-added tax for large corporations Thoughts? No. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	ITT: it's 2007
Anti-245 12/19/18 5:38:53 AM #23	dbf50 posted... Wow Cena won with 5 moves again -_- He had a good match with HBK this year what are you talking about? --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Just won $20 on a scratch ticket :D
Anti-245 12/19/18 5:37:06 AM #20	Just stop gambling. It's a scam. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	STEM Majors watching Liberal Art Majors struggle with Y= mx + b
Anti-245 12/19/18 5:35:36 AM #36	AlisLandale posted... I forgot all about that until I went back to college a few years ago. I remember it now, but mostly because I remember forgetting it. Some people dont store raw information like equations well, and it really doesnt serve a purpose outside of STEM so this isnt some shocking twist. Just a boring attempt for people to feel superior to others >_> That's just a failure of academic setting. Science and mathematics should be much more than base equations and how to manipulate them. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	ITT: it's 2007
Anti-245 12/19/18 5:33:59 AM #19	Can't wait for bush to get his ass out. $4 a gallon?!! --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Myths about the american revolutionary war
Anti-245 12/19/18 5:22:50 AM #1	Let's go. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	I'm proud of who I am.
Anti-245 12/19/18 5:11:17 AM #14	These are things you do/have done. Nothing strictly about what you are. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Do you think there will be medical breakthroughs in 2 decades or so?
Anti-245 12/19/18 1:56:37 AM #23	Link isn't working, but just look through this by Stalin on what Marxist Leninism is. https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/introduction.htm --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Do you think there will be medical breakthroughs in 2 decades or so?
Anti-245 12/19/18 1:53:43 AM #22	EnragedSlith posted... lincoln002 posted... @EnragedSlith posted... There are a couple big game changers I could see making headway in my lifetime. However, were probably all fucked for different reasons, so theyll be irrelevant Why is that? The only thing I see is that people need a new set a rules to play the game by that don't rely on scarcity of things to provide value and being a consumer but instead focus on societal contribution. Because the last thing this population and this planet needs is even more people to feed. It isnt sustainable. Were going to kill ourselves. What we need is an end to overconsumption and consumerist mentality that prevails in western societies. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Do you think there will be medical breakthroughs in 2 decades or so?
Anti-245 12/19/18 1:51:40 AM #21	lincoln002 posted... @Anti-245 posted... lincoln002 posted... @Ultima Dragon posted... Seems like every few weeks there is a promising new treatment for cancer or HIV but then you never hear about it again. Why do you think that is? I think it's the capitalistic model we have, we need something more like marxism without the whole thing turning into hell. @008Zulu posted... Few years ago, I heard that they were in the process of inventing a synthetic pancreas to help diabetics. That sounds awesome, diabetes is a terrible disease. My godfather has it and he showed me what he has to do every day and it creeps me the hell out with the whole prinkling your finger thing, there's got to be a better way man, and the insulin injections too, just scary as hell. The messed up thing is that it can happen to you at any time even if you don't abuse your sugar intake. You just want democratic socialism. Marxism is mainly a technique used to analyze contradictions in societies. Leninism and Maoism are different but maybe what you're familiar with. What is democratic socialism? I'm not familiar with leninism or Maoism, you kinda got me here, cuz I'm not quite sure what exactly upsets me about capitalism other than the fact that it just openly exploits people and everyone seems to be cool with it until something bad happens to them. Like, honestly, you see some of these celebrities net worths and you see a guy on the street begging for change and it just breaks your heart man. From what I've read, it's a system where workers own the means of production and go about political and social matters democratically. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism Maoism and Leninism are rather different, considering the conditions from which they arose were also different. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MarxismLeninism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoism You could also look into mutualism, if you care about markets or anarcho-syndicalism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Every American over the age of 18 should get $2,000 a month
Anti-245 12/19/18 1:20:17 AM #51	All of this is meaningless to me. We should just end wage labor all together before automation sets the stage for it anyway. --- Life in the DoB.
Topic	Do you think there will be medical breakthroughs in 2 decades or so?
Anti-245 12/19/18 1:16:37 AM #13	lincoln002 posted... @Ultima Dragon posted... Seems like every few weeks there is a promising new treatment for cancer or HIV but then you never hear about it again. Why do you think that is? I think it's the capitalistic model we have, we need something more like marxism without the whole thing turning into hell. @008Zulu posted... Few years ago, I heard that they were in the process of inventing a synthetic pancreas to help diabetics. That sounds awesome, diabetes is a terrible disease. My godfather has it and he showed me what he has to do every day and it creeps me the hell out with the whole prinkling your finger thing, there's got to be a better way man, and the insulin injections too, just scary as hell. The messed up thing is that it can happen to you at any time even if you don't abuse your sugar intake. You just want democratic socialism. Marxism is mainly a technique used to analyze contradictions in societies. Leninism and Maoism are different but maybe what you're familiar with. --- Life in the DoB.
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