Lurker > dowolf

I put in an effort.

You complained about what that effort output, since it was evidence not in your favor.

Kinda a circle, don't you think?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Why is no one willing to discuss what happens when I flip town and the game doesn't end?

the odds of this happening are basically nil in my mind, and the Scare ISO found no evidence to change my mind about you being scum.

Thursday is bad for me anyways, so I wouldn't mind having end of day shift, and Blade said he'd also like things adjusted a day IIRC so I'm fine with it.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

you're posting.

you're not actually saying anything.

If you're town right now, you should be trying to make a case against somebody. But the only person you've so much as named is Plum, and you town and Plum scum is basically 0% in my mind.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

well the only one I didnt feel had any town points was death

so I think I am starting there

##Vote: Death

Like this one! 9-268, which he follows by saying "Yep I made a good choice" in 9-269..
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

i have also brought up stuff regarding death and shad, actually.

...like it is a scare ISO i don't know why you're acting like this is a conspiracy.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...fine.

##Vote: God
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 9-251

Yeah IGCD looking good

It never ends.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

I'm not voting before 24hours pass tbqh.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 9-070

I have to go in a minute, leaving my vote on sheep. Dont kill igcd

or maybe he's just outright defending his scumbuddy.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 8-391

igcd not playing to win now

thats a shame I think he is town

but cant fight his battle for him

Probably scum expecting igcd to get modkilled and cutting his losses tbqh.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 7-443

Top 3 town is

Tange. He doesn't change a quote like he did as scum. Red went nuts on him and I dont see red bussing a teammate like that. Tange can be seen as an easy lunch in most cases, so for him to dig his claws in like that with no support and his stubbornness just feels like this was scum on town.

Sbell . His play is aggressive and he is pressing every which way. It's a change in his character to me but not one that I feel he could adapt as scum so quickly. Also his fake scan on pirate after mine felt very genuine. It doesn't seem like an exotic play to make a team mate look better it looks like town checking a newbie.

Distant third I would say probably shad? From what I read last night he felt like a town presence but there is nothing specific I could say to explain my thoughts further.

Scum

Pirate. I dont think I need to say all this again.

Mzero and sheep are the other two I would say I am comfortable calling scum. My reread through topic 1 I already covered and I feel like neither of them stick out in a townly way.

All scum named are actually town. Does he only put town in town category too?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 7-148

I was too focused on Chris. I did suspect Red and if he was alive I case him today. I do think it makes plum look bad

topic 7 and Scare's still trying to push Plum.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 6-210

Death seems over defensive

more death points.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare's the one to point out that MI could request a vote in advance. That almost makes me wonder if scum *couldn't* request a vote in advance?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 6-142

Shaduln posted...

htaeD posted...

Meow1000 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Also, that lawyering was fucking awesome.

On a side note as awesome as that was Lawyer has suddenly become an overused role

sounding like salty scum here, Blade

Reeeeeeally don't like this post.

Also yes I was waiting to see how long this topic would go without posts. Fight me.

same

I m too tired to go and reread anything right now and was down to interact, but saw no posting and was like oh, ok game is dead for the night

or until death shows up!

death points.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

yes but they count for the purposes of parity.

in other words, they count for the purposes of whether or not yesterday was mylo.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Shaduln posted...

dowolf posted...

5/20 is laughably low.

There's just no way.

5/18

you're correct I was including the dragon and ghost in the count for the purpose of that statement because, as can be gleaned from context, it would not make sense to do otherwise.

thank you for bringing this to everyone else's attention.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Shaduln posted...

Really could be said about anyone on Scare's lynch.

Sure, but the thrust of the argument is more that, if God's town, he should be viewing the game from that perspective, and he's not.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 4-300

Meow1000 posted...

But yeah I did miss the prompt lol me

Rule of 3 is scumtange in general.

Uhhhhh

This is kind of lazy blade
I think lazy blade is scum blade

yyyyup.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

5/20 is laughably low.

There's just no way.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

htaeD posted...

And fair enough, flavor shouldnt be so closely regarded.
What with Neablis' character being a watcher and all.

Even so, Penny as a ninja is very iffy.

Why did you reveal that at all?

This is an awful line of reasoning.
IfGodCouldDie posted...

Shaduln posted...

I'll bite, what makes plum look good with flipped scum interaction but not me?

Personally I think plum looks much worse than you. He has been needlessly shading me, basically over justifying my lynch. Yet I don't recall him actually voting me. He has been pretty comfortable calling me scum all game but making no effort to actually lynch me. He even tried to pull the breaks on the scare lynch when I switched over to it from the sheep lynch.

If you're town, if Plum is scum, why does Plum not vote you over Scare yesterday?

anywho BACK TO THE ISO!
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...Honestly, those last two posts just make me nervous about Plum.

Anyways sleep is rapidly encroaching but i finished through topic 3. nothing else caught my eye. more tomorrow morning maybe.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Meow1000 posted...

In that vein I've been pondering that very point.

Who has the dragon placed votes on so far?

Sheep, Neablis, Plum, Han.

also No Lynch.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...Huh.

That's... weird.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Meow1000 posted...

So we lynch IGCD and Death and we win right.

I do wonder if dragon actually is permanent doublevote or if it has caveats to it.

That was intended like 15 minutes ago but I got an important call. I'm going to have to go straight from work to somewhere else tomorrow.

...I've fallen completely off your radar?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 3-096

TotallyNotMI posted...

Oh yeah votals reminded me.

Can we talk about how Tanges only vote with content was selectively ignoring part of my post to try to make me look bad?

I wanted to talk about this actually

when I read that I thought wow what a dick move
and then I was like that was really slick

I do not think a scum tange has the balls to blatantly tailor a post like that

this looks bad for tange, but then Scare's literally next post is...

Scare posted 3-097

oh shit book of town

ben confirmed town

No way Scare defends two scumbuddies right in a row like that.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 2-065

It's one thing for Chris to ignore me, it's another thing for the rest of the game

No one bothering with my reasoning and I specifically expect more from mi than just ignoring me

mostly bringing this up because this is his sixth post of the game or something, which made me laugh.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Shaduln posted...

Do you have any thoughts before that?

god looked really bad last night, and the simplest explanation of why the dragon didn't vote is that it was scum vs. scum.

is basically my stance coming into today.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Scare posted 1-143

Igcd early post didnt seem scummy but it did seem lifeless in tone

You doing ok irl bro?

Literally first post of the game from him. Not sure how to read.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...Were you around back when e.g. Waltz of Gears and Moon-Dwelling Demon made their VGMC runs?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

as a bills fan i feel your pain, Blade.

Anywho don't know how long I've got left before I fall asleep at the keyboard, but I want to at least get through topic 1 of my Scare ISO.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

vote god

or vote somebody now before the dragon does!
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

IfGodCouldDie posted...

masterplum posted...

dowolf posted...

masterplum posted...

dowolf posted...

In the hour before lynch, with you on the chopping block, without even saying anything to the game?

He already knows how this lynch will go down

...What's that supposed to mean?

Their both scum. Scare is just selling it better to keep god alive tomorrow.

Makes way more sense than anything else imo.

Why bother keeping the ninja alive if you can kill the watcher tonight anyway.

...wait did you just claim scum ninja?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

extremely.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

11pm ends are awful yes.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

dowolf posted...

In the hour before lynch, with you on the chopping block, without even saying anything to the game?

There was barely any activity and when I came back there was only 50 posts. We are clearly on the right track with scare still leading so I am not concerned. I think it's funny that scare is acting like Neab is confirmed watcher though.

So you're not going to fight for your life?

like

what?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

masterplum posted...

dowolf posted...

In the hour before lynch, with you on the chopping block, without even saying anything to the game?

He already knows how this lynch will go down

...What's that supposed to mean?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

In the hour before lynch, with you on the chopping block, without even saying anything to the game?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

Where did you go?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...God?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

...Hey God you still around?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

WIFOM doesn't mean you can't solve the scenario.

It means you're asking the wrong question.

Stop shutting down this discussion and help us solve it.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

masterplum posted...

Neablis posted...

This is interesting to me that scum isnt hammering either...

Because they both scum

comedy option: scare is the only scum and scumbuddy death voted him before leaving for the night.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

With Tange's vote it's tied 3-3 IIRC.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

blade hates laughter confirmed.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

good answers.

which means I don't have to eat my hat.

which is convenient, because my only hat is my winter hat and I don't know where that is right now.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

tange quick when did you last post? what are your views on god and scare? are you going to disappear again or response to this in a quick and prompt manner?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

estoy aqui.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

ScareChan posted...

no its a contradiction of what he is presenting

???

man i'm leading the vote on him and i'm more flabbergasted than anything else.

especially since there were three lynch leaders for a good chunk of d2 and he was one of them.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Who was Sheep's alternative day 2?

*headdesk*

i can't. i just can't.

you cannot possibly actually be this obtuse.
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Meow1000 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

dowolf posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

And please remind everyone where all your significant votes were. Because if you are going to compare my votes to anything, it might as well be the only player alive that is confirmed town to you.

What's your point? I drove the Sheep lynch, yes. I drove the MZero lynch.

My point is in a game where we have successfully lynched zero scum its kind of disingenuous to say that someone's votes look worse than others.

Yeah no this is garbage. We can't completely dismiss vote meta just because no scum has been lynched directly (btw Dowolf thanks for saving Scare day 2)

I'm not saying to completely dismiss it, I'm just saying it isn't as strong as an argument as if we had seen actually seen scum get saved by mislynches and such as it has been so far it's been tvt for the most part. It's easier for scum to hide in those scenarios than svt lynches.

Umm.

D3 had no real alternatives to MZero. D1 was tvt. "For the most part" implies at least 2 out of 3.

Are you implying d2 was tvt?
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Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius