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Am I the only one who always knew how to watch television without projecting its bullshit onto reality? If a show/movie/whatever had a good message that could be applied to real life, then sure, I might feel inspired to act on it. But if a show was clearly just frivolous entertainment, then I DID leave that shit in a vacuum. Because that's how it should be. I don't watch Apu and think, "HA-HA, this is how Indians generally are!" because I'm not a fucking dumbass. And when I interact with Indian people in real life, I treat them as fucking individuals with their own backstories because again, I'm not a fucking dumbass.
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Serious Cat posted...

superman 2000 posted...

Arguments like this never fail to irk me, because the subtext is "people are idiots who rely on fiction to shape their view of the world". Why can't people just be more intellectually responsible? Shouldn't we be promoting critical thinking, instead of treating cartoons/movies/TV shows/etc. like they're gospel to the masses?

Comedy doesn't exist in a vacuum. Media doesn't exist in a vacuum.

And maybe that's the problem. If society is too stupid to watch a character like Apu and say, "I understand that this character is a comedic stereotype of Indian people, and not representative of real-life Indian people everywhere. I can enjoy this character without having racist thoughts about Indians in general", then that's a problem with society.
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scar the 1 posted...

I think it's very nave to dismiss the effect media has on people. The population and cartoons/movies/TV shows/whatever art really don't exist as two separate things or with a clear, one-directional relationship. They affect each other. Being more "intellectually responsible" is exactly what the documentary is about; to question, discuss and problematize culture instead of just accepting it at face value.

My point is that we as a society should strive to be MINDFUL of that effect, so that we don't fall prey to it. As painfully mundane as reality can be, it doesn't change the fact that our favorite movies, video games, etc. are ultimately products of fiction. We should be smart enough to contextualize a show like The Simpsons by understanding it's just a bunch of cartoon characitures. If this were a society of critical thinkers (or hell, even just common sense-havers), we'd know better than to use entertainment to rationalize our perception of others. That's literally what separates children from adults.
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Veggeta X posted...

I've said this a million fucking time but it's okay I'll say it again as much as needed.

Apu is fine. Comedic takes on race is fine. The problem is when people view a character as a representation of that race and view members of that race like that character. That is what people are upset about. I don't understand why that point is getting lost in all of this. They're only calling for a change in Apu because that character is perpetuating stereotypes that make it harder for a certain group of people. That's not fully the fault of the creators, but more so society as a whole, and things can't fully be changed until characters like that are also changed.

Arguments like this never fail to irk me, because the subtext is "people are idiots who rely on fiction to shape their view of the world". Why can't people just be more intellectually responsible? Shouldn't we be promoting critical thinking, instead of treating cartoons/movies/TV shows/etc. like they're gospel to the masses?
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

There's a clown outside my house. He's wearing fucking makeup.
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

So long as the man is exercising common sense in what it would take to subdue the woman (i.e., NOT beating her senseless when he could just slap her silly), then yeah, of course he should be allowed to defend himself.
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

Sounds like the easy solution is just wearing a mask. And considering its Halloween, you wouldnt even stand out!
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

Megaman50100 posted...

Are they sensible enough to use transportation and weapons?

Do they know where I am or do they just know what I look like and have to find me?

Great questions.
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

Currently on a bus in the big city, surrounded by at least 20 people. Odds arent favorable.
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

Im_JustMe0129 posted...

Click bait. None of the pics showed child abuse when I clicked the link.

Critical thinking at its finest. Couldn't possibly be that a bunch of people reported the guy and he deleted the content.
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

If you don't wash your ass before interacting with the public, you're a nasty mother-fucker.
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

ChainedRedone posted...

I only see 2 pictures of him. No abuse

DeltaRayquaza posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

I only see 2 pictures of him. No abuse

Consider that you're both 7 hours late...
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

My favorite is when people complain about passive-aggressive behavior, when they themselves often leave people to play guessing games with their emotions.
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

HA!
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

and often complain about things that they themselves are guilty of.

Why is that?
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I don't hold grudges. Let's vehemently argue today and casually have a beer together tomorrow.

Bump
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

_Krave_ posted...

It was lame.

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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Bump agaaaain
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

NES4EVER posted...

I'd say he didn't have much appeal in the first place if he was paying for sex.

Zing!
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Unless youre Barry Allen, I wouldnt recommend it.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Would love to know who's interested in making cartoons someday. Perhaps some of you even have your own ideas you'd like to develop.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Wear whatever the hell makes your dick feel comfortable.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

I mean no disrespect when I ask this: Who the fuck cares?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Bump!!!
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

I feel like just knowing the basics of striking, blocking, dodging, and a few grappling moves will automatically make you better than most ordinary people.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Space_Man posted...

the0rebirth posted...

I see most folks apparently don't mind the smell of saliva, lmao

Yeah this. What if she's a smoker or big on sugary foods

Honestly, Im surprised so many people are cool with this idea.
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JTilly posted...

can we have sex while she does it

bladegash posted...

... can the D receive some of that action??

Nope!
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spudger posted...

Japan lives this

Wait, for real?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

lick all over your face, like a dog, every single day for 30 days straight. You cannot wash your face for at least 8 hours following each tongue facial, and it must always take place at least 3 hours before you go to bed. Each face-licking session must last at least 15 minutes, and she makes it disgustingly sloppy every time. Saliva will be all over your cheeks, forehead, eyes & eyebrows, inside your nostrils, across your lips, and etc. And then you just have to wear it for 8 hours, every day for a month.

Would you go for it?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Conflict posted...

I saw 5'8" as short but not really that short. I wouldn't put it in the same category as 5'4"

Yeah. 5'8" is more-so on the short side as opposed to being straight-up short. At best, I'd say it's the VERY low-end of average.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

5'2" & below: Huh...? I can't even see y--OH, there you are! Sorry, didn't mean to almost step on ya.

5'3"-5'6": You're straight-up short. Think Kevin Hart, Vegeta, etc.

5'7"-5'8": Almost at the low end of average. Basically, you're tall for a short guy.

5'9": low-end average.

5'10": Average.

5'11": high-end average.

6'0": Bare minimum for tall.

6'1"-6'2": Straight-up tall.

6'3" & above: DAMN, dude. Quit growing!
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Bump!
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

I always saw it as

20 = just 20
21-23 = early
24-26 = mid
27-29 = late

Seems fair, no?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Smashingpmkns posted...

What did Seth Green do

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and now theyve vanished without a trace. They havent been modded, nor are they showing in my activity feed...its like they were never created.

What gives? Has this ever happened to anyone else?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Kanye always comes across as not knowing how to properly communicate his ideas, and it doesn't help that his ideas always sound half-baked to begin with.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Remember the booty warrior episode of The Boondocks? I wonder how well that's aged...
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Dyinglegacy posted...

Omega Hunter posted...

littlebro07 posted...

20 to 23 is a baby
24 to 26 is a toddler
27 to 29 is nearing adulthood

/topic

Damn, no adolescence/teen years? ;P
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ChainedRedone posted...

littlebro07 posted...

20 to 23 is early
24 to 26 is mid
27 to 29 is late

You mean 27 to 30.

That would imply that 30 is part of late 20s.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

ThrillKillFan posted...

superman 2000 posted...

TC, how much thought did you put into this? You do realize that most people make around 50k annually in America, right? Why would anyone wanna sacrifice work just to make a poverty wage?

Most people make $50k a year in America? What study was this shown in, because I want my $30k+ per year I was missing out on while working retail for years.

Sorry, that was poorly worded on my part. What I was trying to express is that the average salary in America is around 50k annually.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

For both options, nothing is taxed but you can't work a job or make extra money in any way.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

TC, how much thought did you put into this? You do realize that most people make around 50k annually in America, right? Why would anyone wanna sacrifice work just to make a poverty wage?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

I actually agree with the first part. Always felt The Dave Chappelle Show was overrated. Only seen a few skits of Key and Peele though, so I can't really speak on that.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

I say 27. At 26, you're technically closer to 30 than 20, but I still feel there's reasonable wiggle room to say that's in the mid-range. Can't really make such a case for being just a few years from 30.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

UnfairRepresent posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

The whole concept of the "last meal" offered to death row inmates always makes me profoundly sad and sits with me pretty poorly. It's something they enjoyed, some piece of the outside world, often something they have nostalgia for, simpler/better times. It's extremely humanizing, which you can argue is a good or bad thing with criminals like this, but either way is in stark contrast with the entire concept of the death penalty. Like, "here's one more good, enjoyable, pure thing before we kill you." I dunno. It's just eerie to me.

I'm not even saying anything for or against the death penalty here, it's just the cognitive dissonance that always jars me a bit.

I don't see how.

"you're going to die so here's one last meal of your choice" is evil but "You're going to die so your last meal is piss and shit and some goat vomit" is fine?

1.) He didn't state that the idea was evil. What the fuck are you talking about?

2.) He didn't suggest the alternative of treating the convict like shit right before they die. Again, what the fuck are you talking about?

You're not a very nuanced thinker, are ya?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

To me, it's weird when people try to argue for this:

early: 21-22
mid: 23-27
late: 28-29

because it gives the middle section a bunch of attention while arbitrarily neglecting the early & late parts. And who the hell would even consider 30% the "middle" of something? Or 1987 the "middle" of the 80s? It's not only awkward math; it's just counter-intuitive.
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Seems there are basically two ways to look at this question: the mathematical way (in which the decade is divided into equal percentages based on the number of ranges), and the more "social" way (for lack of a better term). The former is rigid; 27 objectively falls into the late percentile range. The latter is more flexible, but even so, I would think it must still be predicated on common sense (it wouldn't be logical to call 22 mid-20s, for example, and you'd always be wrong for doing so).

To me, 27 is late because it just makes sense. Some people say it starts at 28, but how can only two years represent the "late" part of a 10-year span while the other two ranges get 3-5 years? Seems a bit unfair, no?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Early: 20-22
Mid: 23-27
Late: 28+

Why is the middle range so large? That just seems weird.
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MakoReizei posted...

depends on how old you are.

14 years old: it's fine

24 years old: get yourself a girlfriend you loser

But its 14-year-old logic to say that a person only masturbates if they cant find a partner, lol
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!

Only humans could take something so harmless and turn it into propaganda. Lol.

Youre literally making yourself orgasm. Orgasms feel great. Wheres the controversy?
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Sonic fans may be divided due to Sega's incompetence, but hey, at least they have better standards than Dragon Ball Super fans!