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Mead posted...

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Mead posted...

Conservative trolls always trying to adopt memes for political nonsense leave my rare pepes alone

I'm not necessarily a conservative. But i dont support far left nutjobs is all.

The important thing is that you seem super duper smart

Thanks

Mead posted...

Conservative trolls always trying to adopt memes for political nonsense leave my rare pepes alone

I'm not necessarily a conservative. But i dont support far left nutjobs is all.

waterdeepchu posted...

The NPC thing is hilarious because the people who use it all, you know, come into places, say the same things over and over again, call everyone the same thing, repeat the same memes..

There's a word for that but I cant recall what it is :D

And thats exactly why its usage collapsed so fast. Someone started figuring out that the joke was on them. My hat's off to whoever made the trolls troll themselves so hard.

Its to joke about people who do. If you call right wingers NPC. They are probably gladly happy to take it as a joke and burst that one and debate with you to explain the view points. But in order to be a NPC. You have to not have an opinion on why you are for this on that, this is however what NPCs struggle to explain. And thats the whole joke.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Is this thread basically the same as the trolls who try to argue fascism is left wing?

Nah. Totalitarianism however is one of the reason for war and violence aswell mafia religious cultures, those main two is what causes war and death in general both historically and present time. So that can be more or less a thing any politicial group can have in common with. Which is the opposite of a democracy

When i mean Mafia religious culture. I am specifically talking about "catholic and orthodox christianity.. i mean i dont think orthodox has had as bad history as catholics but the branch is there on being establishment as authority. Meanwhile Protestants.. while you can argue something else. Has institutions within a institution since they only reflect authority on the bible. So they dont have as Mafia way of doing stuff" Aswell as with Sunni Islam "not studied Shia so no idea on that one" but sunni being over 80% of muslims, either case they have more or less a religious culture of being very mafia like.

Either case these two, totalitarianism and mafia religious cultures are the cause of violence and death in my view

If anything i believe in God of obvious good and evil, since i think these abrahamic ones were made out of spite and not to find the truth. Like what if one goes to death for thinking about certain groups of people in certain way, then what?. I just dont think it is the real truth

Oh you know what... Now, now i know the main criticism of NPCs.

Democrats in USA have a collective individualism of thinking. Meaning elitist groups decides, not through individual consensus. But some form of collective group think spread out on the masses.. and so you are automatically NPC because you just follow it without thinking if you are for it or not.

Meanwhile republicans are just individualists.

Ok, i kinda see the joke. Pretty clever lol. Then again UK has some of it i feel but its hard to say. But Europe i dont think has it in general in terms of left wing politics.

Thats pretty hilarious criticism since its kind of truth

I mean i still like the main idea of NPC just meaning "you dont give viewpoints on why you are for this or not?" which i think is what it generally means. But still is a good criticism more or less of collective group think which is anti productive towards any form of discussion, since its just us vs them type of mentality and not actually talking to people

Which is worse.

Left wingers often says right wingers are inbred. So it must be true.

And Right wingers "well atleast they dont care about sexuality as a hobby since its a waste of time" dont engage in it (if you're a guy atleast. Lesbian sex done right is least riskiest) but you have double chances of getting AIDS/HIV than any other form of practice through anal sex.

So which is worse? Deformed child, or deformed life?

Archgoat posted...

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Archgoat posted...

Why is it that these internet red hats all latch onto something and then it is everywhere, and the only thing they can think of saying? I find this new NPC thing especially funny, since they are all only have one attack point right now, just like the NPC they are calling everyone else. Is irony not a thing with you all?

I am not anti liberal. But the ones that exists over there in terms of the far left.... yeah i more or less could not care less. Have they issues to talk about?... ok later

I don't disagree with you there. I am a liberal, but I also don't like the perpetually offended leftist (which I think is a pretty small minority honestly). However, the people that complain about them the most are kind of the same, they have no real issues to talk about, just repeat the same thing and same memes and have no intelligent conversation points.

I'll think about that one.

Edit: alright done. I still am not convinced. Point is there needs to be dialouge, in the end. The NPC meme, is still a good joke since its neutral. But in general i just mean that what needs to be done is people need to debate and actually talk about issues. And in the end let the public make up the mind on who is right or not.

FourthDimension posted...

Lets all repeat the same memes over and over to show were the real free-thinkers.

Well atleast they are free so thats something. How about you?

I mean productivity is overrated. Just joking.

Lokarin posted...

It's like watching two bots fight... wait, bots = NPCs, is this NPC?

I'm actually a paid Russian Bot. Just kidding : P

kangolcone posted...

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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Yeah there right wing never blame the government for anything, not like pizza based pedo rings, turning the frogs gay, creating a Muslim conspiracy to create Sharia law or pushing transgender acceptance to poison the minds of the youth

Blaming government exists. I was more speaking of not fixing your own mental self in terms of flaws, is more or less a left winger issue, they tend to blame your own problems on society. Actually criticizing stuff that society does is not the same as always blaming your own personal problems on society, and never think that maybe its just you?

Like coal workers who refuse to further their education and instead blame their own personal lack of marketable skills on society because of alternative fuels and automation? Or maybe its just you?

Being out of work kind of sucks. But having chosen wrong education is not the same as personal flaws, personal flaws is mental in this case. As in you cant fix something as simple, and yet you think its not you. Yeah thats what liberals would more or less be in favour of fixing and saying, no its not you, its society.

Please list all the personal flaws you are talking about because you use a lot of words and literally say nothing.

You just dont put two and two together. Liberals equals helping weak minded people with mental flaws

kangolcone posted...

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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Yeah there right wing never blame the government for anything, not like pizza based pedo rings, turning the frogs gay, creating a Muslim conspiracy to create Sharia law or pushing transgender acceptance to poison the minds of the youth

Blaming government exists. I was more speaking of not fixing your own mental self in terms of flaws, is more or less a left winger issue, they tend to blame your own problems on society. Actually criticizing stuff that society does is not the same as always blaming your own personal problems on society, and never think that maybe its just you?

Like coal workers who refuse to further their education and instead blame their own personal lack of marketable skills on society because of alternative fuels and automation? Or maybe its just you?

Being out of work kind of sucks. But having chosen wrong education is not the same as personal flaws, personal flaws is mental in this case. As in you cant fix something as simple as that, and yet you think its not you. Yeah thats what liberals would more or less be in favour of fixing and saying, no its not you, its society.

Archgoat posted...

Why is it that these internet red hats all latch onto something and then it is everywhere, and the only thing they can think of saying? I find this new NPC thing especially funny, since they are all only have one attack point right now, just like the NPC they are calling everyone else. Is irony not a thing with you all?

I am not anti liberal. But the ones that exists over there in terms of the far left.... yeah i more or less could not care less. Have they issues to talk about?... ok later

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Yeah there right wing never blame the government for anything, not like pizza based pedo rings, turning the frogs gay, creating a Muslim conspiracy to create Sharia law or pushing transgender acceptance to poison the minds of the youth

Blaming government exists. I was more speaking of not fixing your own mental self in terms of flaws, is more or less a left winger issue, they tend to blame your own problems on society. Actually criticizing stuff that society does is not the same as always blaming your own personal problems on society, and never think that maybe its just you?

Mead posted...

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kangolcone posted...

I really have no idea what your last post is supposed to say. I think it agrees with me and thus invalidates the point of this topic.

Nah the opposite. Left wingers are the true incels, mentally. Its just a fact.

Mental incels

Yeah, mentally weak cant fix themself and dont want to improve of incels, and its not their fault but society. Usually a left wing mentality for lack of practical solutions

Are they fucking or not

Who is?

Mead posted...

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Mead posted...

Like I said, biased as fuck

Yeah how dare people demand discussions and focus on issues.

There are plenty of folks from either side that can have a level headed discussion, and plenty that cannot.

Anything else is anecdotal.

I didnt say left wingers cant. But there are certain groups of people. Who just happens in modern time to be left wings... who just cannot. But i am not saying they cant.

There are plenty of conservative folks intolerant of hearing conflicting views. Its not exclusive to any group.

Its not so much about intolerance as it is to engage in the debate. Like you can scream all you want "though that would be rude" aslong as you can back up why you think this and that. But i prefer normal debates though

You kinda suck at trolling tbh

What do you mean? Its opinions. But i support trying to understand people's views in terms of arguing points if there is something you dont agree with if that is what you mean?

Mead posted...

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kangolcone posted...

I really have no idea what your last post is supposed to say. I think it agrees with me and thus invalidates the point of this topic.

Nah the opposite. Left wingers are the true incels, mentally. Its just a fact.

Mental incels

Yeah, mentally weak cant fix themself and dont want to improve of incels, and its not their fault but society. Usually a left wing mentality for lack of practical solutions

Mead posted...

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Like I said, biased as fuck

Yeah how dare people demand discussions and focus on issues.

There are plenty of folks from either side that can have a level headed discussion, and plenty that cannot.

Anything else is anecdotal.

I didnt say left wingers cant. But there are certain groups of people. Who just happens in modern time to be left wings... who just cannot. But i am not saying they cant.

There are plenty of conservative folks intolerant of hearing conflicting views. Its not exclusive to any group.

Its not so much about intolerance as it is to engage in the debate. Like you can scream all you want "though that would be rude" aslong as you can back up why you think this and that. But i prefer normal debates though

kangolcone posted...

Lokarin posted...

kangolcone posted...

A large section of people who follow Jordan Peterson and Paul Joseph Watson are admitted incels. Neither of those are left wing groups.

I didn't know Jordon Peterson was a group unto himself

With this post, Im not sure you know how to read so you have that going for you.

I was under the impression that a group consists of multiple people. Large section of people who follow Jordan Peterson would be a group.

Perhaps you can share with the class your definition of group since apparently large numbers of people with a common interest doesnt meet your definition?

Its not about the group. Its the mentality, see the difference?

Mead posted...

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Mead posted...

Like I said, biased as fuck

Yeah how dare people demand discussions and focus on issues.

There are plenty of folks from either side that can have a level headed discussion, and plenty that cannot.

Anything else is anecdotal.

I didnt say left wingers cant. But there are certain groups of people. Who just happens in modern time to be left wings... who just cannot. But i am not saying they cant.

kangolcone posted...

I really have no idea what your last post is supposed to say. I think it agrees with me and thus invalidates the point of this topic.

Nah the opposite. Left wingers are the true incels, mentally. Its just a fact.

kangolcone posted...

A large section of people who follow Jordan Peterson and Paul Joseph Watson are admitted incels. Neither of those are left wing groups.

The point is they are left wingers at heart. They are failures to fix themself so they blame everything on society as being weak humans, rather than looking for practical solutions and be like, hey maybe its just me?

Mead posted...

Like I said, biased as fuck

Yeah how dare people demand discussions and focus on issues.

Mead posted...

Things generally seem slanted when youre biased as fuck

Only if you cant back up your claims. In Norway we have left and right politics. But they dont back away from explaining why this is that etc. So they are not NPCs. They usually explain their views on stuff and why when they are for stuff. Thats the opposite in the political climate in US politics nowadays, its just that democrats aka far left wingers have taken it so far that they just dont give any reasons for whatever position they are on. so that is entirely their own fault. So the joke works perfectly for that reason. thats the problem when you dont try to have dialouges on your position on stuff.

I mean the overall irony is how shocked they act when saying it is polarized... Well, yeah?. Its how the political system in USA is set up to be. Its no shock if it is normal, we are the good guys, they are the bad guys narrative. Either case if it was me i would reform it to focus on issues, like to actually be "issues should be the center and should argue for or against something in terms of dialouges on what political issue one is for or against". Like that would be how i would do it. Instead of you are this and that. Like it just is often just slandering off topic. I would blame in modern time mostly far left activists democrats for this. I dont see republicans like this, because atleast they are willing to talk. Like they are not perfect or anything, but atleast they try to argue why they are for this and that. Something democrats simply are not.

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Keep repeating it, until it becomes the truth

Oh thats not what it means. It is neutral. But it just means you cant think on your own, as in you dont have opinions on stuff you say. Just because this may be more infliced to the left wingers (mostly relative to modern US politics of left wingers, somewhat in UK but not so sure). Either case it means you just dont try to clarify your opinions. Thats what an NPC essentially is. It just seems more of a thing with left wingers than right wingers

CacciatoPart3 posted...

I believe you were asked to stop making topics.

But this one just came up randomly. So i had to make one

Do you wanna join the NPC movement?

Trialia posted...

PMSL. No. I've never in all my life met anybody who could be called an incel who remotely approached the left side of the political spectrum.

I've met a handful of ableist or racist assholes who would be otherwise left-wing, but generally I find incels and RWers tend to share the same "I'm all right Jack f*** everybody else, if they can't take my hateful jokes they have no sense of humour" kind of crap.

LWers don't blame society instead of themselves for crap. That's a heavily RW attitude, actually, which is why they assume LWers do it the same way. In actual fact, most LWers will point out society's flaws, but they usually admit that they're not blameless either, and say that the problems are something everybody should be concerned with. So they blame society as well as themselves, nine times out of ten. The "me first everyone else last" types don't like that. Not one bit.

(edited to fix tags.)

Right wingers tends to look at practical solutions to fix problems. Left wingers look at victims and make themself into one, so it must be the systems fault.

Nah its totally left wing. I am not convinced at all that its anything other than that at heart

darkknight109 posted...

Because if there's one thing left-wingers are known for, it's being anti-women's rights and anti-equality. That makes sense.

They are left wingers at heart. They tend to blame society for their own flawed being instead of practical solution to fix themself. So by that definition they are more in line with left wingers... Even if lets say they would be in groups of people who hate SJWs, feminists etc. They still are by default weak individuals who dont try to think.. Hey maybe the problem is with me. Leftists tends to usually look at society as the fault for everything and not look at themself and think... hey maybe its just me.

Thats what i mean etc that they are left wingers more or less : 3

CacciatoPart3 posted...

I believe you were politely asked to stop making topics.

From a user most likely. But this is most likely my last thread in awhile here

But don't you wanna be one?

EclairReturns posted...

Kappa02 posted...

Angry virgins

I thought those were the same things as these "incels".

Nah context. Angry virgins just means they havent got laid and dont care and just do whatever issue they are into. Incels is some loser pathetic guy who whines how he wants the ideal girlfriend and just murder people over it

I mean.. I would meet half way saying that right wingers can be "Angry virgins".

Fair enough

But the exploitive ones who generally consists of THOTs... and people who dont wanna change their character and just blame people and kil who are more or less the weak lack of masculine traits... Yeah those sounds more like left wingers than right wingers.

Sorry but, not really buying it with left wing trolls on youtube who tries to use this insult. Its more they are more in common with this than right wingers. Nice try if you ask me

DrVonRupee posted...

Everyone has personal criteria for what they find attractive. That statement alone is the only truly objective statement on this subject. Personally, I dont know why some of you feel the need to publicly broadcast what your personal preferences are. I also dont know why you seem to care so much about what other people do/think. African man banging a white lady? How does that involve you? Why are you even focusing on that? Its obviously their choice, and nobody other than them has the right to judge it. Its fuckin weird that you think about this so much that you go and make an entire topic about it.

Its nothing wrong whoever you are with. Its just the attitude like with the racial issues of Americans mostly online doing this. Like i dont mind if you are cool, its the one who have to be in your face and rude etc saying i bleep this and that and btw this is anyone but i was just using an example of people i generally am like "go screw yourself if it happens."

either case what i meant was i generally cannot watch porn if this is in it. Is what i meant it just puts me off and just looks weird and ruins it for me. And its not the shade of skin colour, its the thick nose, broad lips and wool hair. It just looks insanely unappealing to me and cannot watch it. The fact that cuck porn exists doesnt help the fact either. Also penis size is genetics. I made a joke that take people from this green, have them breed and let people below them not breed and sterilized(male ones).. In case someone wanna joke about it
https://cdn.lolwot.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/study-reveals-which-countries-have-the-biggest-and-smallest-penis-sizes-1.jpg

Btw i am not advocating that, but just to mess with political groups who wanna rub this as a joke. Just to see how it would been working as a reaction.

Either case a long ramble but hope this answered some part of it.

Muscles posted...

It's not objective though, it's completely opinion based

So is body shape. But as a whole, there is a line where you stick with normal stuff. I am not trying to discredit their overall value as in they may have good characters. I am just saying, some traits are just better

Sarcasthma posted...

In case you guys don't feel like clicking on that link, it's a fucking anime character.

I know its fictional. But i am just trying to illustrate more or less.

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Kappa02 posted...

Like it should not be illegal to actually tell the truth or be honest that yes THIS IS BETTER. But that doesnt mean you arent cool or good or have less value, like if you are cooler then you are more likeable..

Well actually it does mean you're less valuable, and the more we ignore it, the more we see people going "She's chased by everyone because she's WHITE" instead of "She's chased by everyone because she's way hot". People who are ugly have to compensate, that's just how things are.

It's not racist to say objective characteristics are hot, it is racist to say:

Kappa02 posted...

seeing an african bang a white female is gross.

I've seen some crazy hot african-descent people and some atrocious, eye-burningly hideous white people.

Well... for reference.

I say this is beautiful won't you agree? I am not saying a race is better. But traits are better. This is not to say you cannot be a good or valuable person. But it just is.. you know.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bleachhd/images/3/3b/Yoruichi_42.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140811132400

Like i dont think woolhair as a whole is that beautiful. I think it looks hideous. Straw hair in case of horses is a much better beauty standard.

Like look, you are not less valued as a human.. But lets get real. Beauty is objective. Like i hate how we must act non racist and say beauty is subjective or beauty is this to not be racist. No, no racism means to say a certain race is above others. I am saying certain traits are better than others.

Like i have seen some good vaginas (sounds weird to say it like that but the other words was censored), and its not a problem with ethnic stuff.... Its the hair and the nose and lips.

Like i dont see why selective breeding or saying out right that this is better than this. Like it should not be illegal to actually tell the truth or be honest that yes THIS IS BETTER. But that doesnt mean you arent cool or good or have less value, like if you are cooler then you are more likeable... but yeah. Like seeing an african bang a white female is gross. However, a pakistani dark shaded guy with straw hair... Atleast he is not bad looking "well i mean individuals depends"

But you get what i mean?

DPsx7 posted...

You don't cure furries. You keep adopting them until people won't talk to you anymore.

Why would i adopt. Nah you just create a movement, and that will kill the annoying stuff when they do. I say its a win win, because you can just do it and still be open minded. I say i should be considered a genius for that

Sarcasthma posted...

Seems like quite a few of your recent topics have been deleted.

Is everything alright, guy?

Yes

I know how to cure furries. Present them this game or pester it, or anything like Warcraft 3 game, saying it is better than flamboyant stuff. A cult within a cult, and sew your own animal costume with sweat and hard work. Boom mission accomplished

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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Recognizing the struggle of minorites means you are perpetuating the struggle, amirite

You can acknowledge the problem all day long. Doing something to fix it is another issue. Politicians these days seem to love to talk about but only do just enough they can claim they did something other than actually putting some effort into it.

More on topic. I feel we shouldn't even have parties and furthermore candidates aren't allowed to label themselves conservative or liberal in campaign ads. Make them say exactly how they feel about all current major issues and force the voters to pay attention to that instead of just voting based on what party they represent.

Sadly that's an impossibility. Within any issue there's simply a limited amount of stances that one can take. Over a series of issues a certain trend will get revealed and people will group themselves according to said trend. So even if all political parties dissolved today it wouldn't be long before new parties arose to take their place.

I feel more people would feel forced to actually pay attention to the individual candidates rather than their party if candidates where barred from using any sort of label to describe if they are more conservative or liberal.

It would also probably make more candidates more comfortable being moderate as if parties where gotten rid of I don't think they'd feel as pressured to adhere to any one groups way of thinking. Example more conservatives would be quicker to be ok with gay marriage.

The part I hate most about the use of labels to use to identify candidates is so many people make it a my team vs your team. My team is always right and yours is always wrong. Causing people to straight up ignore anything bad done by their side. I feel without labels more people would be quicker to call a politician out for doing wrong even if they had voted for them. But the way it is now election time comes again and of course they are running again. Your going to still vote for them because you'd rather have someone from your party.

I mean trust is important. So you want a guy who you can trust to run in terms of communities and etc. Like i would probably not been qualified. I mean party overall stuff is important, but its also important that the guy who is gonna lead is someone who you have good guts about. I think the two are important

Hop103 posted...

I want a purge of both parties, both the current GOP and the Dems have outlived their usefulness and need to be replaced with new blood.

Fair enough. I just hope no matter what the outcome is that they make it about issues thats the main focus

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Recognizing the struggle of minorites means you are perpetuating the struggle, amirite

Any societal issues is important to look at and have dialouges with. Minorities including to how you can help work it out

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VixYW posted...

Good and bad aren't definitive rules of nature. Those are concepts made up for humans to force other humans into a survivable society, and those are always in constant change. Some accept the changes, some doesn't, and conflict is born.

In the end, good and bad means absolutely nothing. The true rule of this world is that every action have consequences that are not always predictable. You're free to do whatever you want, but you need to make a choice keeping in mind what may happen to you and the world around you in return.

Subjectiveness makes absolutely no sense though. By that logic killing people "for fun i mean" is as good as not killing people. Its obvious that there is some obvious good and bad forces in anything. Its more that people who dont believe in accountability says that to just feel good about themself

Not really. You say now that killing is bad, but if you look to the past, it wasn't always like this. Just like something that is okay nowadays will be considered obviously bad in the future, and vice versa. That's how it all works.

Yeah thats because when the two tribes early ancestry and humanity seperated, it was kinda over. Humanity has been screwed long because of different cultures waring against other cultures. Its only now i think that we have tools able to try to understand one another. To try to educate and see how people react when using logic or understanding that some ideas have worse or are objectively worse than other ideas due to logic and objective reasoning for it.

Like an example... Even if a messed up culture would support cannibalism, human sacrifice, even if that were the case in past or now. Because we know better. Though i understand it goes more in line with religious cultures that sanctions certain ideas as eternal. A link for it if you wanna read my views on it.
https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/islamic-hadiths-summary-read-them-all.213792/

But either case, i am just saying bottom line, some stuff have objective standards to what is ok or not due to what we know. Though religious people are more hard wired though

wolfy42 posted...

The American political system isn't bad, it's just pretty much allwhite.

emm... thats kinda not the problem. Demographics is a thing. Africa... probably more of those people. Asia, probably more of those people.

If you mean employing 50/50 of different people. Fair enough. But large demographics is just normal due to history and whatever. Like i say, issues should be a main concern, poverty issues, job issues, better roads... i am just mentioning a few stuff here that you can bring into a debate or issues you wanna focus on in terms of whatever political party you are in. But you get what i mean

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Kappa02 posted...

pokemon blue is cool. I never played it as a kid but my friends usually owned it as a kid on gameboy colour

that must have been some eurotrash knockoff

It was all blue coloured from what i know. But i never cared for it so much, i was way too busy playing Crash Bandicoot 2 in those days. Was a really fun game

NightMareBunny posted...

really really?! you wanna open this garbage can up...

what it sounds like is you want parties that are specifically made to talk about a certain issue

So The Healthcare Party The Social Climate Party The Jobs Party

I want it to be the main focus. Like issues, not whatever group is better that you belong too as in trying to capture the higher moral high ground. See the way i see it is i feel they try to act like one party is better than other on the outside look. Not which has better arguments, or what you agree to disagree with.

So i dunno. I just think having some political reform would be a good way to make it more productive than what it is now. Depending on what one does it.

pokemon blue is cool. I never played it as a kid but my friends usually owned it as a kid on gameboy colour

Like ok one example

Its mostly the fault with the democratic party.

Wanna know why? The democratic party is not aware how racist they are. Here is how they argue. You MINORITIES, we own you and you should vote for us. Dont think about issues, that doesnt matter we are the party for YOU guys, we are not americans, we just are the good guys. Issues... whatever just remember we are the good guys

The problem is they use racism or their form of it to get votes, not issues but arguing that they own them more or less. Republicans can be kind of typical sweeping problems under their carpet, but atleast they know what they want despite having really bad insane people which is their problem, in terms of influence and environment.

So you see. Its not a party problem. Its the political system that is downright terrible.

I mean i dont know if this is why.. But maybe this is what Europeans mean when they say Americans are stupid. "though i think Europeans are capable of being just as much morons" but i will say. The political system... is straightout terrible. Objectively. You need to fight for civil rights and that stuff... But you also need party to be issue based. Like... are you really shocked really? Polarization. Look your system is designed to be that way. Its nothing shocking about it, its just normal

What you guys need is a purge and reform of parties to make it issue based. Even Malcom X was aware of it.