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Zikten posted...

I thought Penny specifically said they didn't have sex. she was more conscious and aware than him and remembered.

Might be, was a long time since I saw it
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Proto_Spark posted...

Zikten posted...

yea they didn't actually have sex. but he did see her naked. I think they just got really drunk and maybe TRIED to have sex but were too drunk. I watched this like a year ago so I am going off my memory.

Nothing to really say that they didn't have sex, but it was pretty implied too. The idea was they got drunk and slept together, which kinda reinforced with a "Raj still can't talk to Penny" joke and then an awkward encounter with Sheldon and Leonard the next morning.

And IIRC some episodes later Raj revealed that nothing happened but Penny was too drunk to remember
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Veggeta X posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Veggeta X posted...

I find the whole "I can feed my babies my milk any time and at all times whenever I want and you have no room or way to judge me" is a bit farfetched.

Why?

Because it's not being practical or being tactful. It's like thinking just because you're being honest you can't be a rude bitch.

How so, if it's in a space where it's ok to eat?
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Veggeta X posted...

I find the whole "I can feed my babies my milk any time and at all times whenever I want and you have no room or way to judge me" is a bit farfetched.

Why?
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Will they follow orders?
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If it's a place where eating is allowed, it should be allowed. Very simple
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The dude wearing the fedora isn't really supposed to be cool. He's supposed to think he's a little cooler than he is, but people in general consider him a bit of an oddball.

I think the first season starts a little slow, but it's nice. Didn't finish the second one yet, but I've read three books so far and they're quite nice. I'd definitely say they're kind of ASoIaF in space, but a little lighter. And every book is its own contained adventure, with considerable time passing in-between.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

DE is a gimmick poster who intentionally spouts outlandish far-right nonsense

Can you guys just stop tipping people off? If they don't see through DE's gimmick they deserve to swallow that bait.
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Panthera posted...

I don't mean removal in the sense of genocide <_< Shorthand for "dealing with the issues presented by them in some way". As in take away that part of the problem and you fix a big part of it but you haven't eliminated bigotry by any means

Yeah but even there, I don't see that either in the conversation. I can't say it doesn't happen, but for me it's more about actually understanding the problem.
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White men aren't a majority in western society.

And honestly, I don't really see anyone calling for the removal of white male scumbags, except maybe some radfems. Usually I see people identifying that white men are privileged. Not that they should be removed.
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Panthera posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Sometimes it feels like people want it both ways. On the one hand it's absolutely natural that "real gamers" (a very male dominated demographic) react with toxicity when game journalists attack them, then when gamers are being extra toxic towards minorities and women, all of a sudden it's "we need hard stats on who is committing these atrocious toxic remarks".
What's the slur for white male? Is it commonly used when people try to flame white men on CoD?

This is impossible to even make sense of. Where did I say it's "natural" for people to react in any given way or draw any distinction between different situations like you're implying? My point is that in general you're going to have a hard time making a legitimate point on the issue if you don't put effort into detailing how you're determining exactly who is doing the things you're criticizing, since otherwise you are literally just assuming you're right by default. For example, do you think non-white men never say anything sexist? Do you think white women never say anything racist? Safe to say you don't, since those would be dumb things to believe, but the conversation tends to act like it's the case because painting a picture where one demographic is the entire problem is easier to digest than looking at the bigger picture, which is that the mostly anonymous nature of online gaming tends to give people an excuse to be open about their bigotry, regardless of who they are.

White men are the majority in online game so we're the most common ones doing it, sure, and there are obviously societal aspects that encourage more prejudice from the majority so that helps make it even more common, but it's not the whole story. It's important to acknowledge it's not as simple as just saying one group of people are the bad guys if you want to have any chance of making progress on the issue. Racism from women, sexism from non-white people, homophobia from people who aren't straight white guys, etc. Bigotry doesn't become acceptable based on the demographic engaging in it, it's wrong no matter what and that needs to be addressed. The process of addressing it will naturally tend to focus more on white men than other groups for reasons outlined above, but entirely overlooking the same behavior from others doesn't help anyone and in fact just gives the shittier members of the white guy demographic reason to justify their persecution complex.

You didn't say that. I'm sorry I wasn't clearer, my point is that the two views I presented are typically held by the same people. If you're not one of those, then go on and disregard what I said.
But again, consider the fact that the "default" identity online is being a white, straight male. And there aren't any slurs for that. If you're a woman, or black, or lgbt, people will seize upon that to push buttons. But to insult a white straight male, there's no slur. Would that kind of environment look like that if white, straight men weren't mainly the offenders?

As for bigotry, I whole-heartedly agree that it's never acceptable. But identifying an endemic problem in a specific demographic isn't bigoted.
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Panthera posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Panthera posted...

I don't feel like reading through the entire article to check, does it have any clear stats on how it arrived at the conclusion of who is doing all the "toxic" stuff in gaming or not?

How do you figure one would collect such data?

I don't know, but it's kind of essential to figure out a way to do so, since otherwise you're not doing anything but projecting your preferred narrative onto the demographics involved.

Sometimes it feels like people want it both ways. On the one hand it's absolutely natural that "real gamers" (a very male dominated demographic) react with toxicity when game journalists attack them, then when gamers are being extra toxic towards minorities and women, all of a sudden it's "we need hard stats on who is committing these atrocious toxic remarks".
What's the slur for white male? Is it commonly used when people try to flame white men on CoD?

I agree, it would be great to have harder stats on the toxic remarks thrown around. There might be some game companies that publish these kinds of things, I'm not sure. But if we widen the view to look at online forums in general, I'm baffled how anyone can think that "everyone gets the same amount of shit". Like, I have female friends who get indecent proposals (from men) as soon as they post in a big Facebook group. Often it's followed up with threats or more toxic remarks. I have a friend who got sent dickpics just because she was in the local newspaper. There was a famous case a couple of years ago in Sweden where a girl posted on H&M's Facebook page that she thought they shouldn't sell t-shirts with Chris Brown on them, and she got thousands of hateful comments, threats, threats sent to her physical address, etc. There's so much of this that I (nor my male friends) don't get at all. And I've grown up on the internet, I've played online games since they existed. Why should I expect toxicity in games to be significantly different from online in general?
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Panthera posted...

I don't feel like reading through the entire article to check, does it have any clear stats on how it arrived at the conclusion of who is doing all the "toxic" stuff in gaming or not?

How do you figure one would collect such data?
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Nidhoggr posted...

And how could you be married to a black woman and still be racist? That's some Freud s***.

Is this really too complicated to understand?
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

2) Did something significant happen in 1984? I was too young to really be familiar with the events of that year.

lmao you're great Dill
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ASithLord7 posted...

You are absolutely not fluent in German from 6 months of Duo

I'm almost 2000% certain they didn't say they were fluent.
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MyBroTierno posted...

Lots of groups suffer from persecution and stigma and they don't have a forty percent suicide rate.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2604258

Conclusions and Relevance State same-sex marriage policies were associated with a reduction in the proportion of high school students reporting suicide attempts, providing empirical evidence for an association between same-sex marriage policies and mental health outcomes.

Huh!
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Three trolling topics merged into one, such skill is only wielded by ancient masters
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I like Just Around the Riverbend and Colors of the Wind a lot.
And pretty much every shot in Pocahontas has those pink petals blowing in the wind
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I'm learning Portuguese (slowly, not intently) with Duolingo and the lack of grammar lessons is frustrating to me.
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Amazing topic
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What, you thought that Lonely Island song was comedy?
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