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SuperNiceDog posted...

So this is the pro-Trump thread?

No, this is the pro-Nationalism thread.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

not sure how "you're clearly acting like a homophobe" is not an actual answer.

Not sure how you could think this is a real answer.
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Espeon posted...

Maybe the world would respect us more if the rapist we elected president

Got any proof that Trump is a rapist? No. All you have to go on are allegations. He was never convicted, there was never any proof. I see you've got the listen and believe mentality.

Slander is a bad thing.
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Zeus posted...

Feel free to look it up. It's a lot more than you seem to think

I did. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africanamerican-guns/african-americans-still-favor-gun-control-but-views-are-shifting-idUSKCN0PP2N320150715
Seems like while black gun ownership is on the rise, they're still in favor of gun control mostly. Also, I don't know if I mentioned this or not earlier (not going to read through the topic again), but whites being majority in favor of gun control is a very small majority. It's around 53% last I checked.

Zeus posted...

You're going to have pretty extreme variations based on ethnicity,

Got data to back this up?

Zeus posted...

You don't understand the data or its significance.

Sure I do. If I don't, then please enlighten me rather than just condescendingly tell me that I don't understand it. As far as I can tell, this: http://aristocratsofthesoul.com/average-iq-by-race-and-ethnicity/

is fairly accurate. It breaks up the data by race, and then by ethnicity. Of course, it likely doesn't include every ethnicity, but it includes enough of them to see a trend. You're right, ethnicity does matter, and I'm not saying it doesn't. What you don't seem to want to admit is that race matters beyond just appearance as well, and that notion is what this data disproves.

Zeus posted...

Ethnicity imparts a lot of information whereas race obscures information.

Still waiting for the data/reasoning on this one.

Zeus posted...

It's a little weird that you feel like you specifically have to say something like that, especially when nobody has accused you of such.

Considering how far to the left gaming websites like this are, I don't think it's unreasonable or weird.

Zeus posted...

...which is still based on looks

Yes, form tends to imply function. Not an absolute of course.

EightySeven posted...

your definition that latino=mestizo is just factually incorrect.

I didn't say this exactly, though. Latinos tend to be mestizos, but of course there are exceptions to most every rule.
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Zeus posted...

Blatantly untrue, since blacks make up the largest minority and are pretty heavy into gun ownership.

Wrong.

Zeus posted...

Politics by itself isn't a surrogate for culture.

I never said it was.

Zeus posted...

Again, that's not merely race, that's more a matter of ethnicity

No, it's both. Ethnicity is a subset of race, by the way.

Zeus posted...

And pretending that race isn't merely a matter of appearance is laughable

No it's not. You can keep drinking your progressive kool aid if you like, but I prefer to live in reality. The data shows that you are wrong.

Zeus posted...

You don't need to shout, "I'm not racist!

That's not what I did. I don't care if you call me racist. Plenty of people would consider me to be a racist based on what I said in that previous post, and that's fine. I just want to let you know that I'm not in favor of authoritarian regimes or sending people to gas chambers.

Zeus posted...

while you cite racial averages, you're really overlooking that *ethnicities* are driving those averages one way or the other, which is why looking at race as a composite is somewhat meaningless.

Anthropologists can determine whether someone is (or is approximately, in the case of mixed race individuals) caucasoid, negroid, mongoloid, etc based on the shape of their skull or other features. To deny the differences between the races is to deny anthropologists their field. We also know that ethnicities within a given race have similar characteristics beyond just appearance on average, and I'd be interested in any evidence you have to the contrary.
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EightySeven posted...

Zero_Maniac posted...

That very article points out that natives to Mexico are likely to be mestizos, which is to say some European and some indigenous Central American. They're a different ethnicity at this point.

And? Just say Mestizos not "Latinos" or "Mexicans" when you're talking about race and there's no issue. The whole point is that not every Latino is a Mestizo.

Race and culture tend to correlate.

No, nationality and culture tend to correlate. Race is just a catch-all for appearance.

The vast majority of minorities in America are anti-2nd Amendment and pro big government whereas a slight majority of whites are pro 2nd Amendment and pro small government. These latter values are two basic values that are key to American culture. Cultures are made from values and traditions, and these two values were and are particularly important for America. While it's not fair to say that because someone is of a certain race or ethnic group that they must hold these beliefs, it is fair to say that, in general, on average, certain people belonging to certain racial/ethnic groups tend to hold certain beliefs.

You can also disprove the notion of race being a "catch-all for appearance" on a biological level. Some races are more prone to certain diseases and medical conditions than others, and for some organ transplants (but not all) you want a replacement from someone of the same race because other races have too many differences in said organ.

Before you label me as a white supremacist-Nazi-literally Hitler, let me make my views clear: I am certainly an ethno-nationalist, but this view extends to all races. I think every race/ethnicity should have an ethnostate. I do not believe that any one race or ethnicity is superior to another, but I do believe that there are differences between them, and those differences are okay. Blacks are more athletic than other races on average, which is why we see them dominate sports like football and basketball. Whites and Asians are smarter than blacks on average, which is why we see them dominate STEM. That's not to say that a white person can't be athletic, or a black person can't be smart, but in general/on average what I'm saying is true. And that's okay, because I don't think we should determine a person's worth based on how athletic or smart they are.
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EightySeven posted...

Zero_Maniac posted...

That very article points out that natives to Mexico are likely to be mestizos, which is to say some European and some indigenous Central American. They're a different ethnicity at this point.

And? Just say Mestizos not "Latinos" or "Mexicans" when you're talking about race and there's no issue. The whole point is that not every Latino is a Mestizo.

Race and culture tend to correlate.
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EightySeven posted...

Zero_Maniac posted...

They're considered mutually exclusive.

Only in the US because we're kind of moronic about racial stuff. Everyone else recognizes that there are white latinos (obviously including Mexicans): https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Mexicans_of_European_descent.html

here's an example: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Mexican_Girls.jpg

That very article points out that natives to Mexico are likely to be mestizos, which is to say some European and some indigenous Central American. They're a different ethnicity at this point.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Zero_Maniac posted...

(oddly enough GFAQs has no problem with ethnic slurs against white people. I doubt that's a coincidence).

No, I got warned for calling myself a cracker before lol

Really? That's stupid too. GFAQs mods are getting offended at you...for you?
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

I would go with the two paragraphs before it.

Considering those two paragraphs don't contain anything that contradicts my point, I don't see why I should.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Considering the US only recently struck terms like Oriental from its legal documents...

Yeah, thanks to far-left SJWs in the government.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Nope, I am wondering and asking. I mean, how is it different from say the shortenings of Japanese and Chinese?

What, like "JP" (GameFAQs won't even let me post the actual word. Goes to show how SJW infested most gaming forums are) and "Chink"? It's not. I don't consider those offensive either. I don't commonly use them (can't remember the last time I typed them let alone said them aloud) but I don't begrudge people who do use them. I don't get upset over people saying cracker, honkey, or even the n-word either. Life's too short to get offended over some stupid word. I'm sure I'll get modded for including one of these words anyways (oddly enough GFAQs has no problem with ethnic slurs against white people. I doubt that's a coincidence).

MannerSaurus posted...

Uh, there's a Chinese restaurant here called "The Oriental", don't know how offensive it can be.

Where do you live? I doubt it's California or any other blue state. If you do live in a blue state, you might want to check that restaurant again to make sure it hasn't been wrecked by Antifa.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Edit: also, now I am wondering, is Latino not kinda slur, like Oriental, just one that has not fallen out of use?

Since when was Oriental considered a slur? Seriously, y'all get offended over everything these days.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

"Latino" just means from Latin America, regardless of their genetic heritage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latino

The U.S. government's Office of Management and Budget has defined Hispanic or Latino people as being those who "trace their origin or descent to Mexico, Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Central, and South America (other than Guyana, French Guiana, and Suriname), and other Spanish cultures".

If that doesn't imply genetic heritage being involved, I don't know what does.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Terms that were abandoned as quickly as they were introduced and considered very offensive nowadays I think.

No, they are still in use in scientific fields. Sure they are considered offensive these days thanks to SJW culture, but I honestly do not care. They are scientific terms, and I am not using them in any derogatory manner.
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Xethea posted...

Veedrock- posted...

Xethea posted...

I already knew that. So... What's your point?

If Legends 3 is not a game, it shouldn't be in your poll. Now you admit you did it willingly?

I saw videos of the game and pictures. That was good enough to add to it. Just because it wasn't released to normal people doesn't mean it couldn't be seen played by those who made it. It was a game, just not released for sale. If people are fond of it for the videos and pictures too with the other 2 legends, then that's fine. I am an author, an artist and even a game creator and other things. Just because my book isn't for sale or my pictures or my games, even if they aren't complete, they are still a real book a game and a picture. It's not imaginary. Mega Man legends 3 was real in the making. So for the fact anything about it was shown to us, I include it to that series.

No. No, it was never a real game. With your logic, every game ever cancelled part-way through development still counts as an entry in its respective franchise. That's absurd. Assassin's Creed Utopia is not a real entry to the AC franchise. It was canceled. The public never played it, and no one has any idea how good or bad it would have been on release. Same with MML3. We can say from footage that it looks like a good game, but without experiencing it for ourselves we can't say for certain. MML3 is a tragically aborted baby, a thing that never made it out of the womb. It is not part of the Mega Man franchise or any of its series because it frankly never existed. It never went gold, and you're ridiculous for not only including it in the poll but also for defending your awful reasoning.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Zero_Maniac posted...

They're considered mutually exclusive.

How? In very broad strokes, one is a culture, the other an ethnicity.

They're both ethnic groups. There's a reason on applications asking for your ethnicity it lists non-latino white and latino-white as two separate things. They're not entirely separate races like negroid vs. caucasoid, but they're certainly different ethnic groups.
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minervo posted...

Zeus posted...

mrduckbear posted...

Do you know people irl who hate their own people?

Yes, and most of them are white.

That's funny. Most of the ones I know are black.

I guess it depends on the kind of people you hang out with more. Black people kill each other a lot, white people shame each other and suffer from white guilt a lot. I guess black people hate their own kind more in terms of magnitude.
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Latino and white are not mutually exclusive.

They're considered mutually exclusive.
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