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TopicManchildren once again upset that people have issues with games sexualizing kids
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/10/19 6:11:08 PM
#286
StarSpangled posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
StarSpangled posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
I don't think you have a right to a safe space for masturbating to children.

If youre talking about a safe space from a societal consequences perspective, youd be right. If youre talking about government intervention Im pretty sure you have the right to masturbate however you want in the privacy of your home. I dont think theres a law against masturbating in any country except maybe the Middle East.


Masturbating to depictions of children, whether real or animated should 100% be illegal.


Hot take from the dude who married and impregnated a teen in his 30s.


I do find it kind of funny that MuayThai of all people is trying so hard to be some sort of moral guardian. This is a guy who has regularly bragged about the sexual deviancy he gets himself into (private and public), yet we're supposed to buy that he's the virtuous paragon in this discussion.

On the flip side though, I also know he's a parent (a daughter I believe), so that might also account for why he's being so aggressive about this.
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TopicGamerDating is a dating site for Gamers
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/10/19 7:51:41 AM
#30
I can't see this going well.
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TopicAmericans, do you have a passport?
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/09/19 8:45:22 PM
#19
Nope, have no use for one.
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TopicRemember when Hojo tried to get a lion to fuck Aeris?
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/09/19 8:35:17 PM
#78
NeonOctopus posted...
Remember when Cloud, a 21yo man, literally kissed a 16yo ninja girl on a Golden Saucer date?

I wonder if that'll be in the remake.


That was "something" alright.
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Kuuko posted...
People always bring up the crossdressing in the remake but don't bring up this part where Cloud is forced into a hot tub with a group of muscular gay men. I guess the scene is easily missed.


"Feels good, huh?"

"...It hurts."
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TopicManchildren once again upset that people have issues with games sexualizing kids
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/09/19 8:19:16 PM
#260
pokedude900 posted...
nemu posted...
People need to realize imaginary fetishes can just be imaginary fetishes. For every furry in a fursuit, there are probably 50,000 people who just enjoy the fetish lightly. There are probably many millions of people who have enjoyed consensual rape roleplay. You can rightfully be disgusted or creeped out by those fetishes, but they're not indicative of the entirety of the person's character.

Another valid point that pro-censorship people will continue to ignore. I mean I love me some bondage in my porn, but I'd never chain up an actual woman I was with unless I had their express consent.


inb4 "anybody with these fetishes would never get laid anyway"

That said though, I do wonder how much of the pro-censorship crowd also gets outraged about "age play" or school girl costumes. Never mind if it's between consenting adults "wahh wahh THE IMPLICATIONS".
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TopicManchildren once again upset that people have issues with games sexualizing kids
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/09/19 7:29:23 PM
#250
gadgaurd posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
pokedude900 posted...
You still haven't explained how being sexually aroused is relevant to the discussion as if it were some sort of inherent negative.

It is when it has to do with children. I also would be against games where you graphically rape people or slowly torture them to death. When you start getting into the more extreme, it becomes less pure (as in just, not wholesome) entertainment and more escape fantasy for the worst of humanity.

Did you ever stop to question this opinion? Specifically, "why is this a problem"?

I'm not into any of that shit either, but I can easily see that it's not actually causing any problems when restricted to fiction.


Hell, even I make liberal use of "black listing" on boorus and the like where its an option (and believe, there's a lot of shit I don't want to see.), but I don't advocate for the outright banning of undesired fictional fetishes on those websites.

If there's people here who are into other kinds of VNs but simply don't like having loli stuff appearing in their searches, that's definitely a criticism I can get behind.
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TopicManchildren once again upset that people have issues with games sexualizing kids
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/09/19 5:02:28 PM
#222
Kickflip posted...
StarSpangled posted...
Kickflip posted...
I always ignore AoC arguments. Because usually they're low with the prospect of teenagers having sex with other teenagers. Not grown ass men creeping on high schoolers.

Those would be covered by Romeo and Juliet laws.


That's exactly my point. It's bizarre when grown men bring up AoC numbers like it justifies predatory behaviour.


Hey now, I'm not trying to justify sexualization of children in real life, I'm not trying to justify *any* crime in real life.

My concern is only with maintaining creative freedom with fictional works, because the kind of media one ingests has no bearing on what acts they would actually commit in reality, and the moment we let some group decide otherwise, we're going to see way more than lolicon being carted off to the chopping block.

"First they came for..." and all that.
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TopicManchildren once again upset that people have issues with games sexualizing kids
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/09/19 4:29:56 PM
#210
MwarriorHiei posted...
Lord_Wombat posted...
Yeah, that seems to be the typical argument from those on your side, even after it's been explained why its asinine many times.

Instead of coming up with ridiculous analogies to defend the sexualization of children, maybe you guys should use the time spent arguing to seek therapy?

"[X] in video games causes [X] in real life."


Exactly, the people defending this censorship are nothing but self-righteous, hypocritical fools.
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Dabrikishaw15 posted...
Lolicon and Shotacon pandering is exclusively about children, with the only exceptions being "adults" who still look like children but are conveniently hundreds of years old or something. Violence as a concept in media has no such restrictions. You can beat up anything under the sun, from kids to old men. The only way someone could reasonably get on your case for that is if your violence is predominately aimed at a marginalized group, especially when done by a white man, and that type of criticism would be well justified should you make a game doing such a thing.


On the contrary, quite a few games have had to remove children NPCs where violence against them was an option, most notably Fallout 1&2 in certain countries. As well, it's why children NPCs have become unkillable starting from Fallout 3.

As well, the Resident Evil series (specifically 4&5) have been accused of "violence predominately aimed at a marginalized group" on account of how both games have you playing as a white protagonist fighting and killing enemies of only one race. It wasn't intentionally, but Capcom still got heavily criticized for it. (Ironically, it outed some critics as being racist themselves. "Of course a Japanese company would think this was okay" and other such remarks.)

There's also been at least one game (Hatred I think it was called) that also experienced blowback for "glamorizing" shooting sprees at a time where they were on the rise in the US.

And I don't think I have to repeat the whirlwind history of things like Mortal Kombat and Grand Theft Auto in general.

That's where the people in this topic advocating for one kind of censorship don't realize what they're doing; If you give moral-hounds and inch, they *will* take a mile, these same groups have been looking for any wedge they can to start dictating content, and you're literally giving it to them by suggesting there *is* wiggle room to censor anything based on the sole criteria of "I think it's icky" with the added bonus that you give them further weight because they can truthfully say "see, even gamers don't want XY or Z". Anyone who thinks they're not playing on a slippery slope is woefully naive. If everything is not permitted and protected, than nothing is.
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Topictrump laughs as a supporter calls for shooting immigrants at tonights rally
Inferno Dive Dragoon
05/09/19 3:38:51 PM
#188
Thompson posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
Speaking of these types though, why do so many incels/ponybois and people with no social life seem to be alt right?

Beats me. What is so absurd, I think, is their use of an avatar/username from vivid and optimistic cartoon that's about friendship and love, but they themselves embody its antithesis.


I imagine it's deliberate, an attempt to make it seem like "all bronies" are like that.

It's in a similar vein to how/why "nazi furries" originally started. Don't get me wrong, there's most certainly assholes of all kinds in both fandoms, but I seriously doubt the grand majority of either group are alt-right lunatics.
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