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Finally got my co-worker to watch it

He's a long time Moore fan that has read the novel through at least a dozen times

He will not shut up about how good it was and he's only seen the first episode lol

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adjl posted...

Depends how in-depth the face scanner is. If it's just a photograph, then your passport photo is already in a government database and this wouldn't be any different. If it's like a complete 3D model of your face that can be used to improve the government's ability to recognize faces in surveillance footage, that is indeed very different and substantially more invasive.

That's what it is. It's a face scan. Not just a photo. It's extremely invasive for privacy. You will have to give up your biometric information to travel to the US now.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

I would have been interested in a direct adaptation

There are direct events from the comics that are depicted in the show. It's taking place 34 years after the comic and showing how that shaped society, but not everything in the show takes place at the same time. I'm sure there's going to be even more from the comics brought in for the show.

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Mead posted...

Yeah Trent Reznor killed it

Esteemed country music star Trent Reznor

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Also. The fucking soundtrack. Haven't had a show scored so well in ages. End credits for the last episode had music chills oooooo

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

For Alan Moore, it will probably be an abomination and an atrocity bordering on war crime, but to be fair, Alan Moore hates everyone and everything so he was going to feel that way no matter what it was like (especially because he hates everything DC does with the universe outside of the original story).

If you're familiar with how dirty DC did Moore I wouldn't blame him for that at all

ParanoidObsessive posted...

You could easily make this sort of show as a unique property that has almost nothing to do with the Watchmen brand at all and there'd be almost no meaningful difference.

All right someone has definitely not watched this at all

It's a Lindelof show set in the Watchmen universe with existing characters. I'm trusting after watching The Leftovers that he can deliver a well crafted and planned out show. So far Watchmen has exceeded expectations. It's a remix not a reboot. You can enjoy the show with or without the comic knowledge, and if it leads you to the comic you'll only have more of the universe to enjoy with that discovery

The new characters they've introduced are great (lol Red Scare) and the old characters exist. Some even appear regularly.

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EvilMegas posted...

I won't disagree, but even with everything that happened, I think the movie did a good job of showing how all of the capes sucked as people. The only time anyone looked "cool" is the prison stuff.

The show does it a lot better imo.

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EvilMegas posted...

That's not the movies fault.

You are right that it's not

The existence of that movie and flashy execution runs counter to the message of the novel and I'm not gonna back down on that

Snyder had Rorschach delivering sincerely exactly what the novel was trying to satirize, and he was given the light of a hero. Which was so far off.

Then there's the ending

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Mead posted...

Yeah I liked the movie too

not perfect but a decent adaptation

Aesthetics and everything that they did in the movie were spot on. It was very well done and held true to the novel in many ways...

But the fact that so many people walked away holding up Rorschach as any ideal or thinking any of the heroes were cool misses the point so dang hard

So does all the merch

lihlih posted...

I fucking love both the movie and the graphic novel. Sucks that it has nothing to do with the movie.

Also, 30 years in the future means none of the familiar characters, I guess. So fuck that nonsense.

Nah there's familiar characters in there. They've done that well. Give it a watch.

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lihlih posted...

What's the TV show about? Does it have anything to do with the movie?

Thank fuck no. That movie...

It follows the original work. but! 30 years after

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Mead posted...

Yeah its been freaking great so far

Did you see this week's episode because holy fuck that was a wild ride start to finish

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Meh

No!

Wowwww

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That episode was wild. So many "oh shit" moments. Did not expect any of that at the start.

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Not spoiling anything in this post.

You are missing out if you've passed on the show. This last week was just amazing. Two more episodes left.

If you're watching it then you know

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Had to use my legit winter jacket this week

Boourns

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I completely detest the art style

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They probably won't do it

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Giving up meat was pretty easy tbh

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Three pollutions

Definitely

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Have you peeked at Memory Express?

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I make decent money and have decent savings, and I still balked at spending a mere hundred bucks on art supplies today

Shaming people for being wary of big purchases (and yea 800 dollars is a big purchase) is pretty ridic

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My desktop is almost 10 years old (eep) and nearly giving up the ghost. Dreading the cost to replace it but I think that's needed in the next year, if not the next few months.

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So foggy today. It's like icy and warm. Supposed to be 11 on Sunday. The fuck?

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SunWuKung420 posted...

So fried rice with a sauce?

No. Bibimbap

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I've had mine for 7 years now. It just died. Used it hundreds of times. You can cook meat very well, I used to use it to beer braise ribs before they got baked or grilled. Slow cookers do not compare

Make soup stock in it, so good

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I got some of Lisa Hanawalt's comics and they're great too

If you want to explore stuff from the creators

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But does he throw away the center? You'll know a true monster when you witness that casual chucking of the cinnamon core

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CTLM posted...

Of course they weren't truly scientific. No control group, subjects were forced into testing, etc. Never seen anyone defend their actions. Ever.

The results give people a basis to work with. No one is going to try to replicate the results, but now people have an estimation or idea what will happen when certain events take place.

People have known about poisons since B.C. times. They knew poisoning was fatal. Now people have more information as to what poison is fatal at what amounts and effects on the body if it wasn't.

The studies on hypothermia and altitude were the "best" and closest to actually being scientific. The altitude study is the "gold standard" to this day while the cold studies provided (for the most part) reliable data.

What?

Please read more about it

This review of the Dachau hypothermia experiments reveals critical shortcomings in scientific content and credibility. The project was conducted without an orderly experimental protocol, with inadequate methods and an erratic execution. The report is riddled with inconsistencies. There is also evidence of data falsification and suggestions of fabrication. Many conclusions are not supported by the facts presented. The flawed science is compounded by evidence that the director of the project showed a consistent pattern of dishonesty and deception in his professional as well as his personal life, thereby stripping the study of the last vestige of credibility. On analysis, the Dachau hypothermia study has all the ingredients of a scientific fraud, and rejection of the data on purely scientific grounds is inevitable. They cannot advance science or save human lives.
In the light of these findings, attempts to use the data from the Dachau experiments have been puzzling. The persistence of the claim that the work offers usable or valuable information is difficult to understand. One probable reason is the extremely limited availability of the Alexander report and the tendency of investigators to use secondary citations without consulting the primary source. Wider circulation of the Alexander report would thoroughly expose the true nature of the work and put an end to the myth of good science at Dachau. Future citations are inappropriate on scientific grounds.
Inferior science does not generally come to the attention of the ethicist because it is usually discarded by scientists. Ethical dialogues deal with work of sound scientific but controversial moral content, and the mere fact that a debate is conducted implies that the subject under consideration has scientific merit. If the shortcomings of the Dachau hypothermia study had been fully appreciated, the ethical dialogue probably would never have begun. Continuing it runs the risk of implying that these grotesque Nazi medical exercises yielded results worthy of consideration and possibly of benefit to humanity. The present analysis clearly shows that nothing could be further from the truth. Although the Dachau experiments opened the dialogue about an important ethical issue, the discontinuation of debate about these experiments should not bring an end to exploration of the larger subject the implications of the use of ethically tainted data. But the Dachau study is an inappropriate example for that purpose.

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https://jme.bmj.com/content/medethics/20/4/207.full.pdf

Read this and really deeply consider your stance on these crimes against humanity

Jay Katz, a prominent biomedical ethicist, noted that '... it seems evident that the ethical problem of using data and benefiting from evil is moot, if they prove to be useless ...'

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Let's not defend this

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/17/us/nazi-data-on-hypothermia-termed-unscientific.html

A continuing debate over using Nazi data on hypothermia is moot, a new analysis suggests, because the concentration camp experiments in which the data were obtained were scientifically unsound.
The report concludes that data from the experiments, in which prisoners were thrown into tanks of ice water, are worthless because the research relied on scientifically unsound methods, was carried out erratically and was largely fraudulent.
The analysis said the hypothermia experiments conducted at the Dachau concentration camp in Germany in 1942 and 1943 have ''all the ingredients of a scientific fraud, and rejection of the data on purely scientific grounds is inevitable.''

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199005173222006

Pretending erratically documented brutal war crimes were sound scientific experiments? Ones that we've learned from? That is insulting and factually incorrect

Pretending information coerced by torture is reliable is dangerous

I'm surprised at how quick these things are defended. Fuck

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MI4 REAL posted...

Must be in the midwest then. We got the most messed up weather.

Nah I'm up in relatively Northern Canada, many miles north of Montana

All this temperature fluctuation has my migraines like whoa

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https://i.imgur.com/uGLhiY7.jpg

Got through Monday and got a trim (and fucked up the URL whoops)

Supposed to get real cold this week

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PKMNsony posted...

Why would you torture someone for information to not use it? Seems like a silly premise.

What should be asked: Why would you torture anyone, especially when it doesn't provide useful information?

https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/campaigns/never-torture/facts-torture

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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/06/do-doctors-use-nazi-data-in-their-research.html

CTLM posted...

Germans did some awful experiments in WW II. They learned a lot, such as ways to deal with burns, effects of lack of water/ only drinking salt water, and poisons. We can't change the past, but can use it to further our own knowledge.

This is by and large untrue

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My mom tells me that from the moment I could crawl, I would crawl up to her with books in my mouth to be read to. I'm pretty sure even if babies can't read they still enjoy and benefit from being read to for a number of reasons.

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It failed to do sci-fi or Western very well and is just a big ol' fanservice show from the get go. Like watch Cowboy Bebop, it's better

I don't get the hype whatsoever. My hot take on it started an argument with an ex

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St_Kevin posted...

I think Season 6 is setting up for a hard downfall in Season 7

Season 7 is probably the last season I bet :P

This is the last season
Part 2 is in January

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Zeus posted...

Speaking of Mr. PB, it was kinda weird that throughout the series, Mr. PB's House was widely implied to be less popular than Horsing Around yet he got a full set in that one Hall of Fame whereas Horsing Around only had Bojack's sweater

Really only implied because the story follows BoJack as a narrator and not PB. Honestly I never got the impression Horsing Around was more popular. PB clearly had the more successful career and was in the public eye

I'm sure the impression of the shows would be very different if this was the Mr. PeanutButter show

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Dating sucks too

Good folks are in short supply, and as you get older and saddled with responsibilities you don't have the same time and places to approach relationships

But dating and being single are way better than being with a bad partner for the sake of being with someone

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EvilMegas posted...

JFC, I watched the first episode and it crushed me.

Episode 2 was more emotional (to me anyway)

Just you wait

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Ogurisama posted...

I should have dug out my gloves this morning
But i decided to sleep in instead.

F

I did drag out the scarf which is the only thing making life tolerable in a denim jacket with my hair

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Ogurisama posted...

The wind chill is like -20 right now, its gross.

It's -16 here

Regretted not packing gloves let me tell you

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Ogurisama posted...

Its still coming down here, it stops, and then starts up again.... been doing that for like the last two hours at least

Ewwwwie

It's not heavy here but it is windy

Very icy pavement this day

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Ogurisama posted...

An inch or two it looks like

Oh we got that too

It's gross

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Yeah one pot pasta is really easy. I do that and add sauteed vegetables after for letting the texture ideal

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How much you get down there?

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My tofu dogs come in a decent number the few times a year I get em

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Hair was getting faded af so did a reblue



It came out more purple toned than intended. Will have to see in daylight

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Blue_Dream87 posted...

I watched the first 2 episodes and so far so good. Love the animation they did for Princess Caroline with her baby

Episode 2 nearly gave me a panic attack, and brought me to tears, and brought me joy

It was a good episode

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Right?

Anyone finish yet?

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