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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/14/19 7:09:51 PM
#313
Nelson_Mandela posted...
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1126958896973778950

#ThisIsWhyYouLost2020

Really hope people like AOC stay home because Biden doesn't want everyone to return to subsistence farming. The centrist Dems might legitimately go to war with progressives over this.


Seph, what do you think we should do about climate change?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/14/19 5:13:35 PM
#308
So, the CIA is now investigating the FBI for spying on the Trump campaign.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/14/19 3:32:28 PM
#307
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
You'd think that somebody who was in the white house at that time would be less naive about the idea that Republicans would be cordial.

Every indication we've received from 99% of Republicans over the last decade has been that they either get their way or they throw a tantrum and try to prevent anything from being done. You have to be an absolute moron to think that any Republican politician gives any shits about bipartisanship.


Joe Biden: I have no empathy for Millenials

Also Joe Biden: I love Republicans, and theyll definitely work with me when their President with a 90% approval rating among Republicans is gone.


I can see the logic. Republicans can be cowed - this was what Trump did to win control. He turned those debates into a ritual humiliation of the leading 16 Republicans.

Make Republicans start to fear a socialist president and they might decide to work with someone like Biden. But hard to see how that level of cowing could happen in 2020.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/14/19 1:39:40 PM
#292
Bipartisanship: where Democrats work with Republicans to deliver the worst parts of Republican policy.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/14/19 10:36:41 AM
#281
Trump has been staking his presidency on the economy since he started running. This is the reason people voted for him.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/14/19 3:10:44 AM
#277
xp1337 posted...
The two party system is problematic but I'd rate it as less of a problem than the Senate and the Electoral College, though the latter is the reason why we have a two-party system but I just mean the nature of the EC distorting the electorate in much the same way as the Senate.

really there are just so many problems and they're getting worse

Like to drive the point of how the Senate is by far the biggest problem facing the country:

Given population estimates, in 2040, 50% of the population will be in 8 states. So on the flip side half the population will control 84 Senate seats. Going a bit further into it, if you add the next 8 biggest states to the total you're up to ~70% of the population in 16 states. So 30% of the population would control 70% of the Senate.

that is an existential crisis


Thank God for that. Long live the Senate of the Republic. For 8 states to have half the power would indeed be an existential crisis, but with our system, that can't happen no matter what their population is.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/13/19 3:05:54 AM
#244
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
The economy is [really good] and yet we have *this many* people in abject poverty, dying without healthcare, struggling to find work, etc

You know, Bernies consistent stump speech for the past 40 years.

Bernie and Warren are pretty much the best people who can make the argument to vote against President with great economy.


What if he gets asked:

"Do you think it's okay for Hillary Clinton to receive $250,000 per speech from Wall Street banks?"

"Do you think it's okay for deans of colleges with bad employment outcomes for their students to be making millions of dollars, paid by federal student loans their students will have to bear for decades?"

"How will you negotiate a trade deal with China? Are you going to cancel the tariffs?"

Bernie knows the right answer to all of these questions. But the Democratic Party won't allow him to give that answer.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/13/19 3:01:09 AM
#243
Forceful_Dragon posted...
If the economy is good, then that's good.

I have to wonder if cutting taxes in the way that it occurred was a viable long term strategy to achieve their current state of the economy. It seems to me that we're going to be paying for our "4%" growth eventually via the national debt, but we've essentially passed to buck down the road. This is not unique to Trump. Numerous administration's have opted to make things better in the short term by worsening our long term debt. It abstracts the cost so it isn't feeling as keenly.

But hey, I'm no economist so if legitimate economists are of the opinion that things are good, then sure, they are good.


It's not unique to Trump but given the way he ran his businesses, it'd be very surprising if he didn't massively increase the national debt. A national debt of only 100% of GDP must look like a massively underleveraged opportunity to Trump. Trump likes his businesses saddled with so much debt that the interest payments alone amount to 100% or so of the income. Then if growing your way out of the debt and selling the business to a greater fool both don't work, it's time to declare bankruptcy and force your creditors to eat the loss.

For an entity like the US government with a perfect 240+ year credit history, a low interest rate, and control of the currency in which the debt is issued (which is also the world's reserve currency), a national debt at 200% of GDP should be no problem. Japan manages that without the advantage of issuing the world's reserve currency. Now 200% of GDP is probably still way underleveraged in Trump's eyes, but our exit plan presumably isn't bankruptcy, so that's alright.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/13/19 2:52:00 AM
#241
And I think, at this stage it is probably hard for Bernie to defeat Trump in the general election too. He would have crushed it in 2016 but the economy is too strong now. He still has a chance if he can cast it as, our economy is doing great, shouldn't we be helping out our poorer countrymen? But he would have to jettison the neoliberal dogma prevalent in the Democratic Party and campaign on, essentially, Trump policies plus redistribution of wealth downwards.

I doubt Bernie can make the Democratic Party come to its senses the way Trump made the Republican Party come to its senses. He doesn't believe the neoliberal dogma himself, but he's not going to attack and humiliate it the way Trump did to Jeb Bush and the Republican version the neoliberal dogma. And Bernie isn't an economist or a businessman, and he's campaigning in a party that puts a lot of trust in "experts."
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/13/19 2:44:47 AM
#239
As far as trade goes, the worst thing we can do at this stage is elect a Democrat. They will capitulate, eliminate our tariffs and bargaining leverage, and give other countries whatever they ask for, hoping to get something in return. Which we will not get. It will be like Lenin's unilateral declaration of peace with Germany - the Germans just ignored it and moved their armies forward and the USSR had to give up loads of territory when they came to their senses and realized that unilateral declarations of peace don't work.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/13/19 2:40:29 AM
#238
Umitencho posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Trump's policies turned out not to be a disaster like predicted.


Trump inherited his economy from Obama. His actual policies have been a disaster of which I already linked in earlier posts.

I have a link to a study of the US Economy for April, https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
The study was done by the Bauer of Labor Statistics. If you want to look it up yourself "THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATIONAPRIL 2019".


Yes, that report shows that the economy is booming. A selection of relevant stats:

Unemployment rate: 3.6% (lowest since 1969)
Net jobs added in April: 263,000
Average monthly jobs added over last 12 months: 213,000
Hourly earnings increase over last 12 months: 3.2%

There is really no way to spin this as a disaster in any way. If you want to argue that policy has a delayed impact on the economy and we are still in Obama's economy, that's a fair argument, but I seriously doubt many voters are going to go for that in 2020. By then, it will have been 4 years since Obama left office.
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TopicHow much would you need to be paid to pick fruit in the Arizona desert?
red sox 777
05/13/19 1:25:27 AM
#15
Seems like most people here aren't desperate enough to do it for anything close to what that job is paying in the market.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/13/19 1:17:28 AM
#236
Umitencho posted...
red sox 777 posted...
The centrist bloc won't vote for Democrats in this economy.


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/12/goldman-trump-tariff-costs-fall-entirely-on-us-businesses-households.html

Except you keep looking at the Macro and not the Micro. What saved Trump were manufacturing towns, and farmers. His bad trade policy might be enough to at minimum depress their vote.

I love this lack of nuisance about the economy conservatives have lost when Trump got elected.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/12/politics/trump-economic-boom-obama-compare/index.html

Then again you guys did the same thing to Reagan despite the fact that most of the 80's boom had nothing to do with him.


The US economy is doing great. Unemployment at a 50 year low, wages are finally growing again in real terms, inflation is at a healthy 2%. Housing prices are taking a breather after several years of increases which is good for people's ability to afford rent/to buy a house. Less than 100% or so of the gains (inflation adjusted) are going to the top 1% for the first time in ages.

Goldman can say things would be even better without the tariffs, but they aren't particularly credible. They were caught selling complex investments to clients that they bet against themselves, they have no reason to be more honest with the American people than their own clients.

Remember, the market wanted Hillary to win - when early returns came in on election night the Dow futures fell like 700 points in an hour. Trump's policies turned out not to be a disaster like predicted.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/12/19 10:41:21 PM
#234
Nelson_Mandela posted...
The Dems don't need the extreme left to win. They need the black vote, specifically the female black vote, and the centrist bloc. Biden is quite strong with both of the groups.

Very liberal/socialist voters have never swung an election.


The centrist bloc won't vote for Democrats in this economy. At the very least not if the Dems are as openly scary as they are. Biden isn't going to be able to disavow the far left or the SJWs or the most toxic of all, the neoliberal center left.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/12/19 8:44:08 PM
#200
TheRock1525 posted...
"I can't get past Joe Biden but surely I can beat an incumbant president."

This is a pretty tiring argument.


The same thing happened with Hillary. The Democratic Party absolutely will not listen to swing voters.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/12/19 8:39:16 PM
#198
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean, if Biden absolutely thwomps the field, including Bernie, can it really be argued that he's less inspiring?


When he loses to Trump, yes.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/12/19 4:29:55 PM
#195
Nelson_Mandela posted...
I wonder if there are any polls of how many Dems really think Dick Cheney/Republicans are "bad" or "evil" people. I'm guessing it's a very small minority.


Democrats think Republicans as a group are good, but any individual Republican is bad. Republicans think Democrats as a group are bad, but individual Democrats can be good.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/12/19 4:09:36 PM
#191
The similarity between Biden and Trump is like that between Hillary and Trump - people will vote for the Republican/non politician over the career Democrat. Why vote for Republican-lite when you can vote Republican?
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TopicHow much would you need to be paid to pick fruit in the Arizona desert?
red sox 777
05/12/19 2:50:40 PM
#8
burritosatan posted...
John McCain wanted to pay people $50 to literally pick fruit ?


He made a speech saying that we need illegal immigrants because Americans won't pick fruit. To demonstrate this he rhetorically offered the crowd $50/hour to pick fruit in Arizona, and said he was sure they would turn down the offer.
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TopicHow much would you need to be paid to pick fruit in the Arizona desert?
red sox 777
05/12/19 2:41:25 PM
#6
The question is supposed to be answered in the context of your own life.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/12/19 2:31:19 PM
#174
Nrrr posted...
What does anyone even like about Biden? Like what are the things he wants to do that people are on board with? He is indistinguishable from a republican in a blue state. I don't fucking understand voters at all.


Centrist Democrats looooove Republicans. That's why they spend all their time trying to win their favor.
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TopicHow much would you need to be paid to pick fruit in the Arizona desert?
red sox 777
05/12/19 1:54:49 PM
#4
Whatever fruit needs picking.
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TopicHow much would you need to be paid to pick fruit in the Arizona desert?
red sox 777
05/12/19 11:50:24 AM
#1
How much would you need to be paid to pick fruit in the Arizona desert? - Results (21 votes)
$5 per hour - I'll work for less than minimum wage
0% (0 votes)
0
$7.25 per hour - the federal minimum wage
0% (0 votes)
0
$10 per hour - a nice round number
0% (0 votes)
0
$15 per hour - supposed to be a living wage
14.29% (3 votes)
3
$19.75 per hour - US median individual full-time wage
14.29% (3 votes)
3
$23.70 per hour - US median individual full-time wage for people with AA degrees
4.76% (1 vote)
1
$32.04 per hour - US median individual full-time wage for college grads
4.76% (1 vote)
1
$38.64 per hour - US median individual full-time wage for people with master's degrees
4.76% (1 vote)
1
$50 per hour - as offered by John McCain
38.1% (8 votes)
8
Some amount greater than $50 per hour
19.05% (4 votes)
4
In this hypothetical, you will work a total of 2,000 hours per year picking fruit in the Arizona desert. The specifics will be determined by the industry standards and will involve more work in some seasons than others. The job comes with no benefits and the wages are fully taxable.

How much would you need to be paid to accept?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/11/19 4:01:39 PM
#170
LordoftheMorons posted...
Hopefully all reporters covering Trumps tariffs point out that theyre paid by American consumers and not the Chinese (and also that a trade deficit of X means you bought X more than you sold, not that you gave away X like Trump constantly lies about)


Not true. American consumers will be paying a portion of the costs but so will China. American manufacturers will benefit and so will the US government. But the biggest winners will be countries like Vietnam, Bangladesh, Malaysia, etc that will find it easier to compete with China on price.
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TopicShould the US have death panels for healthcare?
red sox 777
05/10/19 6:06:30 PM
#18
Clarification: option 2 death panels are not deciding cases on an individual basis. They are classifying treatments as worth paying for, or not, independently of its connection with any individual patient. So obviously it's not nearly the same thing as option 1.
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TopicShould the US have death panels for healthcare?
red sox 777
05/10/19 5:59:37 PM
#17
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
red sox 777 posted...
banananor posted...
red sox 777 posted...
MarkS222222222222222 posted...
The fact that Sarah Palin wanted death panels at all makes me sick


She didn't want them. She opposed them and said they were inevitable under Obamacare.

Was she correct?


They weren't in the draft bill or the law that was passed. But we'll never know what would have happened, maybe 20-30 years down the road, if Republicans hadn't vociferously denounced death panels.


Do they have death panels in all the countries with Nationalized healthcare?


They have the type in option 2 in this poll. Procedures that are extremely expensive/have marginal efficacy are not performed. This is why the super rich in those countries tend to come to the US, or somewhere they can pay out of pocket, for treatment. If you're a billionaire you may decide to spend 5 million dollars for a 10% chance of living an additional 5 months, but nationalized healthcare is probably not going to cover that type of treatment.
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TopicShould the US have death panels for healthcare?
red sox 777
05/10/19 4:50:15 PM
#14
banananor posted...
red sox 777 posted...
MarkS222222222222222 posted...
The fact that Sarah Palin wanted death panels at all makes me sick


She didn't want them. She opposed them and said they were inevitable under Obamacare.

Was she correct?


They weren't in the draft bill or the law that was passed. But we'll never know what would have happened, maybe 20-30 years down the road, if Republicans hadn't vociferously denounced death panels.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
red sox 777
05/10/19 1:16:57 PM
#147
The new higher tariffs on China are in place. Negotiations appear to have ended early today without a sign of a deal.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
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05/09/19 10:20:33 PM
#145
StealThisSheen posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/my2k/status/1126604324174303233?s=21

WHAT THE FUCK

Anybody who votes for this bill knowing about this provision is straight up evil.


That tweet is rather dishonest about it.

It's not literally "If the accused is found not guilty, the woman goes to jail." It's if the accused is found not guilty, depending on the circumstances, an investigation into the accusation could be opened up and could result in potential charges, but that itself would go to court and it'd have to be proved that they willfully and knowingly filed a false report.

Which is... Kinda how it should be?

All the bill does is make "false sex crime report" a specific crime instead of just falling under a generic "making a false police report"


It's also making it a felony punishable by 10 years in prison. AL is tough generally but I would be really surprised if making a false police report carried 10 years in prison.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
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05/09/19 10:19:13 PM
#144
Yeah, they can't dispense with due process. Criminal trials in the US are not binary decisions between guilty and innocent. Not guilty doesn't mean innocent, just not guilty.

Kind of feel escalating penalties doesn't help things though. This also makes it harder to recant an accusation.
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TopicShould the US have death panels for healthcare?
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05/09/19 10:10:27 PM
#5
MarkS222222222222222 posted...
The fact that Sarah Palin wanted death panels at all makes me sick


She didn't want them. She opposed them and said they were inevitable under Obamacare.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
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05/09/19 7:31:28 PM
#133
Jakyl25 posted...
Like, honest question, if I use a sniper rifle and kill your pet ferret, as I am wont to do, am I then on trial for murder or destruction of property?


If I were a ferret, probably murder.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
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05/09/19 7:17:21 PM
#127
Jakyl25 posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
SmartMuffin posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Too bad abortion is just as much murder as removing your appendix.


That's not the point though, they think it is the same as murder.

You can argue that if you want, but "lol you're supposed to be in favor of small government" is an incoherent objection to anyone other than a 100% pure AnCap.

If you don't think it's hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government but also be in favor of the state prosecuting murder, then it's not hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government and also in favor of the state prosecuting things they view as equivalent to murder.


But its factually not murder


That's only because "murder" is a word that necessarily implies wrongdoing, which takes it out of the realm of the purely factual.
Replace "murder" with "killing" and it absolutely is a factual question.


Yes but killing many things is legal, just not humans except in certain circumstances

Embryos and early fetuses are not humans


I'm saying nothing is factually murder, so that doesn't distinguish it from any other form of murder. Calling it that necessarily requires a value judgment.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
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05/09/19 7:14:03 PM
#124
Jakyl25 posted...
SmartMuffin posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Too bad abortion is just as much murder as removing your appendix.


That's not the point though, they think it is the same as murder.

You can argue that if you want, but "lol you're supposed to be in favor of small government" is an incoherent objection to anyone other than a 100% pure AnCap.

If you don't think it's hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government but also be in favor of the state prosecuting murder, then it's not hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government and also in favor of the state prosecuting things they view as equivalent to murder.


But its factually not murder


That's only because "murder" is a word that necessarily implies wrongdoing, which takes it out of the realm of the purely factual.
Replace "murder" with "killing" and it absolutely is a factual question.
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
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05/09/19 7:06:52 PM
#122
LordoftheMorons posted...
At least one judge is countering Trump's blatantly illegal delay tactics by expediting the case (on the tax return subpoena):
https://twitter.com/kpolantz/status/1126586076326502403


Hey, in Italy Silvio Berlusconi used delay tactics based on his being in high office until the statute of limitations ran out. And that was after being convicted, because in Italy you are apparently presumed innocent until all of your appeals are exhausted, and the statute of limitations also continues to run until your appeals are exhausted, notwithstanding that you can delay the case because you are prime minister.
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05/09/19 5:15:27 PM
#117
We're talking about Baby Boomers. This is the most entitled, least empathetic generation in American history.
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05/09/19 4:55:33 PM
#115
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Wow, Mitch McConnell is taking political trolling to the next level. He's selling "Team Mitch Cartel" shirts for $35, embracing his "Cocaine Mitch" moniker. He is also describing himself as the grim reaper on socialized healthcare.


If only more Boomers had the moral fortitude to care about their Social Security they love so much being murdered.


Why would they care? They're getting back what they put in. It's not as great as their parents who got back more than they put in, but it's their children who will be the first generation to get back less than they paid in.
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05/09/19 3:32:27 PM
#111
Wow, Mitch McConnell is taking political trolling to the next level. He's selling "Team Mitch Cartel" shirts for $35, embracing his "Cocaine Mitch" moniker. He is also describing himself as the grim reaper on socialized healthcare.
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TopicShould the US have death panels for healthcare?
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05/09/19 3:23:35 PM
#1
Should the US have death panels for healthcare? - Results (44 votes)
Yes, make the decision on the person's value to society.
22.73% (10 votes)
10
Yes, but anonymize the decision making.
2.27% (1 vote)
1
No, all procedures requested by a patient should be performed.
63.64% (28 votes)
28
No, let the market decide.
11.36% (5 votes)
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The first option is Sarah Palin's original idea for death panels - where a panel of bureaucrats will evaluate a person's potential contribution to society and decide how much healthcare they should be allocated.

The second option requires the panel not to know who the patient is, only their medical condition and the cost.

Vote away.
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red sox 777
05/09/19 2:01:47 PM
#110
Involuntary manslaughter still requires some level of culpability, like negligence.
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05/09/19 11:47:50 AM
#107
It's time we had 2 governments, one big and one small. Both will be run by Republicans as the winning party in the elections. If you vote for the Democrats you'll be subject to the big government and if you vote for Republicans, you get the small one. If you vote third party or don't vote, you get to choose.
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red sox 777
05/08/19 6:25:28 PM
#95
I'm surprised Trump would have it structured so that so much of his business was in pass-through entities that would show up on his own tax returns, rather than corporations where it just wouldn't show up unless he issued dividends or sold shares. I suppose, if you expect to show losses you want it to pass through to offset income elsewhere, and he wasn't thinking about hiding his tax returns in anticipation of a run for public office that long ago.
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red sox 777
05/08/19 4:24:35 PM
#93
That said, with the way the tax law is, it is not a big surprise that a real estate developer would show losses for tax purposes, and Trump was one of the biggest real estate developers in the country.
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red sox 777
05/08/19 4:20:56 PM
#92
So, next question for Donald: why did your father show a big profit in the same industry? Was he less savvy at tax avoidance?
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red sox 777
05/08/19 4:06:43 PM
#90
LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1126078422797602816?s=21

...is he admitting to tax fraud via tweet as a defense against the idea that he is literally the worst businessman in the country?


He is bragging about tax avoidance. He is not admitting tax evasion.
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red sox 777
05/08/19 1:37:28 AM
#82
kevwaffles posted...
Tesla had positive earnings the last 2 quarters of last year. Now you're just getting lazy with your pointless non-sequiturs.


But was it profitable for the year? I don't know if the auto industry would be terribly seasonal but there are definitely industries (like gaming and Q4) where it's common to get most or all of your net profits for the year from one quarter, and lose money the rest of the year.
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red sox 777
05/07/19 11:46:06 PM
#80
He is successful. No one is so good at losing money year after year after year. Well, Elon Musk is better I suppose - Tesla has run nonstop losses every year and Elon is getting paid 40,000 times the wages of the median Tesla employee.
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red sox 777
05/07/19 4:54:55 PM
#71
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1125792876187746305?s=21

Trump is goading us to impeach him, Pelosi said this morning, saying doing so would solidify his base


Congratulations, you played yourself


Well, she's about 10 steps ahead of most of the other Democrats. But still a fair ways behind the Republicans.
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05/07/19 3:22:01 PM
#64
The UK should start treating London politically the way the US treats California and New York. Let London be an economic engine, but make it a political pariah.
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05/07/19 2:04:05 PM
#62
The 2,622 counties that voted for Trump have surpassed the 490 counties that voted for Hillary in 12-month employment growth for the first time in 7 years.
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