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Lucavi000 posted...

Copied Factory on my DC usually takes about an hour though.

Wow what the hell? I haven't done it since the patch but I did it to catch up on some gear a few months back and on Aether I barely see wipes anymore. Even at 5.1 release the first week or two was rocky but tbqh it's the easiest 24-man at release since Void Ark.

I think due to gear scaling the only raids that really give me issues if I get them in roulette are Dun Scaith and Monastery, though I have rolled Monastery maybe once ever. Occasionally I'll get into a cursed WoD run where no one knows what to do but those are infrequent.


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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Ok. It's been over an hour waiting for Rabanastre as tank. Do people hate this raid? Never had this problem in ARR and HW.

First of all yeah, the Ivalice raid series is pretty obnoxious to the point where people deliberately remove gear while queuing for Alliance so that they don't get them. It's changing a little because beating that questline is going to be important in a month or two so people are actively doing it, but yeah.

Second of all, tanks actually have the worst queue for Alliance because there's only 3 spots. If you have a DPS or Healer at that level it'll actually be faster. That said, an hour is ridiculous.

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Not_an_Owl posted...

Fishing is bullshit.

it used to be worse until literally this patch where Patience was a post-50 skill and the !s didn't exist so you had to manually learn the sounds/animation for tug strength

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Fordola is by far the best antagonist in Stormblood

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Zenos isn't good but Yotsuyu is total fucking ass. The Steppe is the only good part of the Far East plotting. Just delete Doma.

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Drakeryn posted...

yda was zzzz. her and papalymo are Exhibit A for bad ARR storytelling - boring questgivers who periodically show up and make you do stuff but have no actual personality.

lyse is likable (if a bit forgettable) and cute. she's not great or anything, but I'm kinda stunned that anyone thinks yda was better

Yda actually had some personality - she was kind of a quirky cheerful goofball. Generic but likeable enough. I don't hate Lyse but they completely removed that aspect of her so she could have a generic brooding arc instead. I guess the implication was she was faking it? Is that only how the actual Yda acted? I dunno! It just...doesn't make too much sense.

papa lymo is actual worst scion

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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Aymeric and female WoL definitely had a thing right?

aymeric and male wol definitely had a thing

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ShatteredElysium posted...

I also seem to recall BLMs needing a certain PIE amount to make a rotation work or needing a certain amount of skill speed on DPS. There was definitely minor nuances to selecting the right gear or using melded things to make certain builds work

yeah I actually played BLM and did the PIE thing and let me tell you - it was fucking stupid. The way they have it now is they altered the MP costs to line up more nicely so that you still have to pay attention but it's more elegant if you fuck up because you are not as reliant on the whims of the server MP tick. Also skill speed thresholds for BiS still exist for some classes like Warrior.

Besides, for all this (and how accuracy was) I'm not actually making any interesting decisions. I'm waiting for theorycrafters to crunch numbers and go "ok here is what is optimal" and doing it. Which still happens!

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ShatteredElysium posted...

Eh I don't think it was that cut and dry. I was part of the groups who were doing the early clears of Coil, Extremes and Savage modes in ARR and HW. I distinctively remember having to use heavily melded crafted gear as a DPS (because top ilvl gear was so bottlenecked / subject to weekly drops) or having to gear my tank for DPS because DPS checks were so brutal. It was always a pain because one of our tanks refused to do anything but full tank build and full tank stance so I had to have both DPS tank and a DPS geared depending on the composition we went in as. And it was stupid expensive to do so without any hope of getting a return on the gear afterwards

I raided towards the end of Heavensward and the only thing here that's different is they did a major streamlining of tank damage. They noticed tanks were using strength accessories for damage so they just put str on tank gear instead of making you choose, and in this expansion they just baked tank stance in and made the stance just easy mode for aggro. They did the a similar thing for the healer DPS stance. These things required more skill but were really clunky and unintuitive game design elements that pushed people away.

Besides that what they have mostly done is increase accessibility. People still use pentamelded crafted gear - but materia is plentiful, it's easier to level crafters, and more people are raiding so it is not nearly as expensive. DPS checks in Savage are less strict because the first two tiers of Heavenswardraiding nearly destroyed the raid scene. Now it's less strict so that more people can clear earlier savage fights and in exchange we have ultimates, which I'm not experienced with but are supposed to be the hardest content in the game's history.

Also thinking about this reminded me that accuracy used to exist and good fucking riddance to that

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Lucavi000 posted...

I guess to put it into perspective I went through Stormblood and Shadowbringers in about 3 weeks playing about 4-5 hours a night.

I feel like I get it done in about a week playing at this rate. That's going through the story at a leisurely pace but still focusing on it with minimal extra sidequests and grinding.

I'll say closer to 1.5-2 weeks normally given that I generally take a day off work and play more on weekends around expansion launch.

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1-50 goes pretty fast just doing dungeons. It's after 50 you'd want to start grinding potd if you can't get instaqueues


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I feel like the designs of the Stormblood maps have worn on me, but they are really cool to go through during the story. That one specifically is a map I find particularly annoying to go back to. It might be a combination of nostalgia and new expansion shine but the 3.0 and 5.0 zones feel more visually iconic to me aside from some duds (lookin at you Coerthas West).

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Gates of the Moon goes pretty hard (the 67 dungeon theme)

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E6 is (spoilers that were in trailer) Garuda+Ifrit tag team

(specific fight spoilers) and then they FUSE. It kicks ass

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Patch day!

Only got to do the first two raid fights before going to women but E6N SLAPS. Really excited to see how the last two fights (and savage) play out!

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guys dont hype best girl so much let her power be discovered organically

Drakeryn posted...

Urianger too high

also how dare you, how can you even say this after the latest expansion

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I have to imagine getting rid of reuse is to slow down botters or something. What I don't understand is why we can't get Reclaim back if people looping it with Reuse is no longer an issue.

also all my macros are gonna be busted and I JUST got caught up on crafting

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Patch note time!

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/c5fac69b033d34ddfa1b8cd727f7c89cb003b885

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I think ultimates are on different schedules than normal raid series but I can't say as I've never done them.

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ughhhh I'm getting the urge to raid consistently again but I don't want to put myself through the hell of rushing to gear and clear the first two weeks

Maybe a hot take but they should stagger all the savage releases a week or two from normal mode like they do at expansion launch!

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Lucavi000 posted...

I started Shadowbringers.... wtf is up with the normal battle music? It is TERRIBLE

I think that one's fine compared to the Heavensward and Stormblood ones but the normal battle themes are some of the rare bad tracks in the OST.

You can actually turn it off somewhere in the menus and just listen to the generally great zone music!

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If you like oGCDs, and also suffering, SMN is the caster for you!

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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Speaking about missing certain scenes, I cleared the 3.4 dungeon and after that, I just reunited with Alisae in Ishgard and she was like "hey thanks for helping me with the expeditions though we left that unfinished". So is this also something that changes if you beat all the Coils first?

Yep

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I don't think so but I'm not certain. To be honest, a lot of older job quests tend to not make sense after certain expansion events, and they didn't usually smooth them over with dialogue edits. I have the headcanon that they canonically happen before and are echo flashbacks or something.

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None of them have the same level of recognition that Dragoon does in HW, though

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BakusaiTenketsu posted...

Your rotation is weak!

F4, F4, F4, SwC, ShC, F1, F4, F4, F4, F3, MF, F4, F4!

bro we have Despair now and you dont even use F1 in the opener

I went from a pretty good BLM in 3.x to not playing much all in 4.x and just hit 80 this week and it's some galaxy brain shit

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AOE incoming?

Healers adjust, I'm casting fire iv

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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Getting closer to Stormblood. That whole sequence with the final battle with Nidhogg was sooo good!!

That fight was hell on release fyi. There was no echo and everyone was at gear or undergeared. It was the biggest "git gud" moment in the entire MSQ on release. Now it's a breeze!

Just a fun tidbit but yeah that part is sick. All the post-HW story is pretty great imo.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Gearing up DoHs at 50 seems like a pain; I assume just doing normal leveling once I finally hit HW will make that obsolete anyway? (I still want to make some of the advanced level 50 stuff like orchestrion rolls).

Yes absolutely. It's a bit of an awkward hump to get to the first tier of leveling gear though, but it's MUCH better than trying to make 50 gear that becomes obsolete almost immediately.

If you haven't, check out Mor Dhona to get a quest to unlock collectables and keep an eye out for more later to get full access to them. They help immensely with leveling and gearing later.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Does that mean I can in theory be tempered?

Haha you're very close to figuring out one of the more tinfoil hat fan theories

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ZaziGuado posted...

Last night I hit a red MSQ in the filter between ARR and Heavensward because I haven't done se of the hard versions of primal battles. That makes mainlining my way through this stuff hard. How much of the "plus" quests are just dungeons and how much of them are actual other threads of story? I've done a bit of the aethersand stuff, but not much else because I figured it was just all optional dungeons of which I've done barely any during my time with the game. Am I missing out on a lot?

The good news is that this is the only time I think the MSQ does this with something that isn't just checking your job quest. There are a LOT of side stories but nothing directly relevant. Some of them get referenced by the main story or alter dialogue but that's it.

I would reccommend doing side dungeons and questlines at your own pace when you hit the endgame of each expansion - you'll rack up poetics at a good pace to get gear and there's plenty of neat dungeons and fights. Where you are now there's only a handful of side stories and mostly it's one-off dungeons, but in the expansions they add more ongoing storylines to do.

For right now I'd say to look into doing Crystal Tower and Hildebrand whenever you want a break from the main story.

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At 80, there will be two types of new tomestone for you to collect and gear with. One capped weekly, and one that isn't that has weaker gear.

You'll use poetics to gear again at 70 and then if you ever want to do the old content relics (shiny glowy unique weapons locked behind a big grind) you will need piles of them.

You will get TONS going through old content as a new player though. If you have extras you can buy the cosmetic items or materia.

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Well there's the reason you have so many. No way in hell am I doing Eureka either!

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50/60/70 is a decent way to get poetics since no fucking way am I gonna run Main Scenario

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Is it worth getting anything more than a weapon?

I guess I'll probably try and clear all of the RR dungeons before moving on to the expansions anyway.

Yeah it's worth getting the gear. You will get TONS of tomestones going through old level cap dungeon. And the stuff you get from leveling g up to 60 is only marginally better than Ironworks. Especially if you augment it, it will last you those entire 10 levels.

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I can probably name on one hand the number of times I bought equipment. The drops you get from level appropriate dungeons are usually your best bet

Yeah and also when you get to an expansion cap (50/60/70) you can buy gear with tomestones that will last you for the next ten levels, and then you do it again.

Unless you're a tank, then some expansion dungeons get a little dicey.

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Oh and if you don't have Palace of the Dead, there should be a questgiver in New Gridania for it. It's a randomly-generated 4-player dungeon where you can enter at any level. You have separate levels and equipment while in it and it gives EXP on your actual job whenever you clear a set of floors.

Once you have a full playthrough of 100 floors for the quests, you can just keep resetting your run to 50 to grind levels.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Coerthas beated!

What's the fastest way to level secondary classes? I didn't leave any quests undone and just grinding through enemies is pretty boring.

The priority goes something like

1. Daily leveling and alliance roulettes
2. Spam highest available leveling dungeon if you have fast queues
3. Spam Palace of the Dead floors 50-60 if you're DPS queuing (switch to Heaven on High when at a high enough level)
4. Expansion beast tribe dailies during queue downtime

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TheRock1525 posted...

Yeah at some point you'll need to stop flailing into the wind and accept that Joe Biden is our next president.

I think you mean next Democratic candidate for president

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neonreaper posted...

Yes I caught it. They still have to recklessly address things in this fashion moving forward.

I actually prefer the lore-light approach of TFA and TLJ and the ENTIRE OT, so I disagree strongly with the decision to approach it how they did in TROS.

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neonreaper posted...

I do worry that the future is like... why don't they just Holdo space battles, and summon all the Jedis of the past to succeed in every battle? There's a small army of immortal ghost Jedis that can interact with the real world - that feels like a problem going forward.

wow I guess you didn't catch the two lines of throwaway dialogue explaining that "The Holdo Maneuver" is a one-in-a-million chance that the writers crammed in to appease the lore die-hards

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FFDragon posted...

But guys he got his mask back that's what you all wanted right?!

tbqh Kylo putting the mask back on is the biggest indicator of how out of touch JJ Abrams is, and that's saying a lot

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potential energy manipulation

I don't think I remember enough of college physics class to make use of this ability

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my holiday wish is todd and aaron game of the decade awards

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red sox 777 posted...

I'm considering donating to the DNC as they'll probably manage to use it to hurt the Democratic Party!

If that's your rationale then might I suggest donating to the Justice Democrats, whose entire goal is to fight the Democratic Party?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/31/world/australia/fires-red-skies-Mallacoota.html?searchResultPosition=1

apocalyptic scenes from a fire in Australia is a more ominous start to 2020 than I could have possibly imagined

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Mewtwo59 posted...

You don't remember the Netflix adaptation meme?

Oh people were talking about actual show quality? That was just a dumb meme. Their adaptations, like all their originals, have always been pretty hit-or-miss.

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Advokaiser posted...

it's nice having Netflix's bad reputation of ruining everything being slowly depured

I mean I'll believe this when they stop cancelling shit and Witcher and Castlevania get more than 3 seasons.

bring back tuca & bertie you absolute cowards

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Came in to say Boletaria Castle/1-1 in Demons' Souls but thinking about it, that game has a tutorial level first. Damn.

MMX and X2 are good. Deku Tree in OoT I feel gets a lot of hate but I think it's very cool for an intro dungeon.

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finally, the best game awards of the year

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